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Michael Christ

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:04:22 AM11/11/09
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'If Jesus is Lord'?

If Jesus is truly Lord of your life, if He is your true master, if He is the
One you love with all your heart, soul and mind, if He is God of your life,
then how is it that you can sin, let alone be a sinner once you have truly
given your life to Him? Is He the Lord that leads you into and in sin?

John 8:34 (KJV):
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth
sin is a servant of sin. (Two Masters? Is lukewarm the Way??)

Romans 6:22 (KJV):
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your
fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. (Free from sin) (Servant
of God, not sin).

2 Corinthians 5:21 (KJV):
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be
made the righteousness of God in him. (The righteousness of God)

1 John 3:8 (KJV):
He that committeth sin is of the devil;... (Including deliberate and/or
unintentional. Is a person of the devil and of the righteousness of God???).

1 John 5:18 (KJV):
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten
of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. (Whosoever is
born of God...sins not).

Romans 6:17-18 (KJV):
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed
from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you? Being then
made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. (Made free
from...became, not becoming) (One Master).

1 Peter 4:1 (KJV):
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves
likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath
ceased from sin; (Ceased)

1 John 3:6 (KJV):
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him,
neither known him (To the point and very clear)

1 John 3:9 (KJV):
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him:
and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (In Him is no darkness at
all).

There is beyond repenting...and repenting...and repenting...and repenting.

There is more.

You have to seek with all your heart. You will find if you do. Do not
accept what the Phariseeanity-ites spew from their mouths. They do not want
to let go of their old nature; they hold on to this world. They seek to bind
you to their lot by burying you in theology, snaring you in a 'forever
learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth' abyss.

My testimony is the victory of Jesus crucified and the power of His
resurrection...victory...that _you_ can have in Him. You can be free, and
free indeed despite what the faithless want you to believe.

You have to give your all though, or you will forever be stuck in that
religious bog hole of constant empty jargon Bible quoting that is divorced
of the actuality of fulfilling the Scriptures in your life. Sure, all have
sinned (except Jesus) but He did NOT die so that you could try and justify
yourself for being a sinner, but to deliver you, to free you from sin
(Romans 8:2). Or else, His death amounts to nothing in your life. There is
no magical fix at the moment of physical death; it is too late then. Now is
the accepted time, now is the day of your salvation, now (2 Corinthians
6:2). Find the Way. Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness
(Jesus). Ask, and it shall be given, seek and you will find, knock and it
will be opened unto you, or off you go and eat pizzas, drink bourbon, and
laugh like fools on the promenade deck of the Titanic.

Michael Christ

PS You need to find out the Lord's will in your daily life.

PPS Again, I say.

'If Jesus is Lord'?

If Jesus is truly Lord of your life, if He is your true master, if He is the
One you love with all your heart, soul and mind, if He is God of your life,
then how is it that you can sin, let alone be a sinner once you have truly
given your life to Him. Is He the Lord that leads you into and in sin?

Well, is He? The question then is, is He Lord in your life??

bob young

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:04:02 AM11/11/09
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Michael Christ wrote:

> 'If Jesus is Lord'?
>
> If Jesus is truly Lord of your life, if He is your true master, if He is the
> One you love with all your heart, soul and mind, if He is God of your life,
> then how is it that you can sin, let alone be a sinner once you have truly
> given your life to Him? Is He the Lord that leads you into and in sin?

Because:

A) The human pshyche cannot avoid sin, since levels are sin vary
according to the judgmental types who claim that they suffer from it.

B) Jesus is a myth

>
>
> John 8:34 (KJV):
> Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth
> sin is a servant of sin. (Two Masters? Is lukewarm the Way??)

S I N


Sin has always has been a tool of the clergy, used and adopted to bolster
membership. It is seized upon with zeal simply because there is a universal
distaste for it - even a thief becomes highly agitated if someone breaks into
his home and steals his loot.

Sin was around long before man could speak in simple tongue, let alone write.
Eons later sin was hijacked, applied, used, twisted and manipulated by the
priesthood with more force and enthusiasm than any other example of religious
dogma.

Until preachers and their hangers on such as Michael here, defer from
manipulating sin as a propagating tool - they will never be free from
committing sin themselves.

As for John, we can frogive him, he lived a very long time ago when people were
somewhat simple minded yet fearful.

Thommadura

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:54:26 AM11/11/09
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Michael Christ wrote:
> 'If Jesus is Lord'?
>


Why would a MYTH not proven to exist be a LORD?

Why would a king or queen of England make him one?

Michael Christ

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:23:15 PM11/11/09
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Michael Christ wrote:
>> 'If Jesus is Lord'?


Thommadura the critically confused agnostic atheist wrote:
>Why would a MYTH not proven to exist be a LORD?

Just because it is not proven to exist in thou great mind, it doesn't mean
it is a myth, atheist.

You don't know what you believe or whether you are Arthur or Martha.

You can enjoy the game playing bigotry without me for a while. In the
meantime you can get a little intellectual maturity.

Michael Christ

Thommadura

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:23:48 PM11/11/09
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Michael Christ wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>>> 'If Jesus is Lord'?
>
>
> Thommadura the critically confused agnostic atheist wrote:

Sorry - but I am still NOT am atheist - I remain an agmostic

>> Why would a MYTH not proven to exist be a LORD?
>
> Just because it is not proven to exist in thou great mind, it doesn't
> mean it is a myth, atheist.

Actually - as an agnostic - PROOF is what makes the difference
And I already PROVED that the god of your religions definition cannot
actually exist.

A god cannot be Almighty - all knowing AND eternal - as described by
religion.

An all knowing god - already knows everything that is going to happen -
and cannot do something he does not already know he is going to do - ie
- he cannot be almighty.

OF Course - a god with no beginning and no end - was not born in
bethlehem - and did not die on a cross - that whole story is bogus.

ANd of course- if your one god became totally human - then the miracles
described in the bible cannot have happened - since the ONE god had to
give up its godly powers - and therefore COULD NOT return to being a god
- ie the resurrection cannot have been pulled off either - because it
would take a god to raise someone from the dead. IF he was a god - then
he was not human - and therefore could not die. IF he was human - then
he died - and there were no more gods!


Thurisaz, warrior of Thor

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Nov 11, 2009, 11:03:41 PM11/11/09
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Morontheist and confessed liar-for-jebus "Michael Christ":

> if he is gawd of your life,


> then how is it that you can sin, let alone be a sinner once you have truly

> given your life to him? ᅵIs he the lawd that leads you into and in sin?

Judging from what morontheists do, the answer to the last question is YES,
for morontheists lie whenever it suits them, without hesitation. The OP's
morontheist is a prime example of this, not just lying as if no one would
care, but actually even being proud of being a liar.

Now watch how it runs from this reply, because it knows I am right.

--
Thurisaz, warrior of Thor, natural enemy of morontheism

The judgment of morontheism: http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus

bob young

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:04:01 AM11/12/09
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Michael Christ wrote:

Whenever I read childish nonsense of this ilk I am tempted to exclaim, 'if
this is what religion does to the human mind, how pleasing it is to be an
atheist.

Bob

"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor
immovable, but moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both
philosophically and theologically false, and at the least an error of faith."

[Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei]

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