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The rapture 6th and 7th of September 2032 and Jesus return 1st of October 2036!

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The rapture will occur in 6th and 7th of September 2032 and Jesus
return to rule will occur in 1st of October 2036 and here is why:


The way in which Jesus fulfilled the Jewish feasts is a fascinating
study. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the Jewish prophet Amos records that
God declared He would do nothing without first revealing it to His
servants, the Prophets (Amos 3:7). From the Old Covenant to the New,
Genesis to Revelation, God provides picture after picture of His
entire plan for mankind and one of the most startling prophetic
pictures is outlined for us in the Jewish Feasts of Leviticus 23.

The Hebrew word for feasts (moadim) literally means "appointed times."
God has carefully planned and orchestrated the timing and sequence of
each of these seven feasts to reveal to us a special story. The seven
annual feasts of Israel were spread over seven months of the Jewish
calendar, at set times appointed by God. They are still celebrated by
observant Jews today. But for both Jews and non-Jews who have placed
their faith in Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, these special days
demonstrate the work of redemption through God’s Son.

The first four of the seven feasts occur during the springtime
(Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Weeks) and they all
have already been fulfilled by Christ in the New Testament. The final
three holidays (Trumpets, The Day of Atonement, and Tabernacles) occur
during the fall.
Many Bible scholars and commentators believe that these fall feasts
have not yet been fulfilled by Jesus. However, the “blessed
hope” (Titus 2:13) for all believers in Jesus Christ is that they
most
assuredly will. As the four spring feasts were fulfilled literally and
right on the actual feast day in connection with Christ's first
coming, these three fall feasts, it is believed by many, will
likewise
be fulfilled literally in connection to the Lord's second coming.

In a nutshell, here is the prophetic significance of each of the seven
Levitical feasts of Israel:

1) Passover (Leviticus 23:5) – Pointed to the Messiah as our Passover
lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) whose blood would be shed for our sins. Jesus
was crucified on the day of preparation for the Passover at the same
hour that the lambs were being slaughtered for the Passover meal that
evening.

2) Unleavened Bread (Leviticus 23:6) – Pointed to the Messiah's
sinless life (as leaven is a picture of sin in the Bible), making Him
the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' body was in the grave
during the first days of this feast, like a kernel of wheat planted
and waiting to burst forth as the bread of life.

3) First Fruits (Leviticus 23:10) – Pointed to the Messiah's
resurrection as the first fruits of the righteous. Jesus was
resurrected on this very day, which is one of the reasons that Paul
refers to him in I Corinthians 15:20 as the "first fruits from the
dead."

4) Weeks or Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16) – Occurred fifty days after
the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and pointed to the
great harvest of souls and the gift of the Holy Spirit for both Jew
and Gentile, who would be brought into the kingdom of God during the
Church Age (see Acts 2). The Church was actually established on this
day when God poured out His Holy Spirit and 3,000 Jews responded to
Peter's great sermon and his first proclamation of the Gospel.

TO COME

5) Trumpets (Leviticus 23:24) – The first of the fall feasts. Many
believe this day points to the Rapture of the Church when the Messiah
Jesus will appear in the heavens as He comes for His bride, the
Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing
of a loud trumpet (I Thessalonians 4:13-18 and I Corinthians 15:52).

6) Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:27) – Many believe this
prophetically points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He
will return to earth. That will be the Day of Atonement for the Jewish
remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of
their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10 and
Romans 11:1-6, 25-36).

7) Tabernacles or Booths (Leviticus 23:34) – Many scholars believe
that this feast day points to the Lord's promise that He will once
again “tabernacle” with His people when He returns to reign over all
the world (Micah 4:1-7). The 1000 year rule of Christ on earth and
then eternity.

The timing of the rapture and 2nd coming of Christ can be found in
various ways from the bible which remarkable point to around the same
time and here they are:

First we need to determine when Christ was killed:

Sir Isaac Newton undertook a very credible analysis of the '490 year'
prophecy and applied his extensive knowledge of ancient history which
allowed him to identify the Persian king as Artaxerxes I (Artaxerxes
Longimanus), and to place the decree in the year 458 BC.

Newton then calculated the Crucifixion date as being either in AD 33
or 34. The way he did it was remarkable, because he used his own new
theory of gravity to calculate the position of the moon in antiquity
to reconstruct the Judean calendar to find a year in which the day of
the preparation for Passover fell on a Friday. That same method was
"rediscovered" some two centuries later by someone totally unfamiliar
with Newton's work, with the same results.

Newton then pointed out that Daniel's prophecy of seventy weeks, or
490 years, would fit perfectly either between the year of Ezra's
commission in 458 BC and AD 33, which he acknowledged as the commonly
accepted year for the Crucifixion, or it could also fit between the
years 457 BC when Ezra actually got started working and AD 34.

Newton favoured the latter choice for two reasons. First it makes
Daniel's prophecy come out even not only in weeks of years, but both
ends would also fall in the sacred seventh sabbatical year of the
cycle. That is, both the years 457 BC and AD 34 were Jewish sabbatical
years, which seemed like a very tidy fit to Newton because the entire
prophecy was about weeks of years. Secondly, Newton favoured AD 34
because he thought he found evidence for the Saviour's ministry having
been 4½ years, rather than the traditional 3½ years.


Working on the assumption that the year of Jesus crucifixion was 34 AD

2 Peter 3:8 With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a
thousand years are like a day.
Hosea 6:2 (Amplified Bible)

2After two days He will revive us (quicken us, give us life); on the
third day He will raise us up that we may live before Him.

Luke 24:7 The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of
sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.

Mankind was revived and given new life (the Holy Spirit) on Pentecost
50 days after Jesus was crucified almost 2000 years ago and on the
third day we will be with Him and again in Luke Jesus is gone for 2
days and back on the third. Peter says a day of God’s represents a
1000 years in our time.

2000 years on the death of Jesus brings us to Jesus’ return about 2034


A rough indication of finding out when Jesus will return is from the
below bible verse:

Matthew 24
32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs
get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33
Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near,
right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly
not pass away until all these things have happened. Jesus was talking
about the end times and the rebirth of Israel which

became a nation in 1948. The fig tree (Israel) came to life and those
that are still left from this generation that saw Israel become a
nation will also see the return of Jesus. So all other prophecys that
haven't been fulfilled yet need to be fulfilled before all this
generation dies.

In the Old Testament the fig tree was a picture of Israel (Hosea
9:10, Joel 1:7), and in the New Testament Jesus' cursing of the fig
tree was a picture of his coming judgment against Israel (Matthew
21:19, 43; Mark 11:14-15).

The generation of 1948 can live up to a maximum of 120 years which
would bring Jesus return from 1948 +120 which means any time up to the
year 2068.


7000 years

Many Christians have believed, and many still believe, that the
Millennium will start 6,000 years after Creation. According to Edward
Gibbon:

The ancient and popular doctrine of the Millennium was intimately
connected with the second coming of Christ. As the works of creation
had been finished in six days, their duration in the present state,
according to a tradition which was attributed to the prophet Elijah,
was fixed to six thousand years. By the same analogy it was inferred
that this long period of labour and contention, which was now almost
elapsed, would be succeeded by a joyful Sabbath of a thousand years…

The Epistle of Barnabas of the 2nd century said:

In six days God created the works of his hands, and finished them on
the seventh day; and he rested on that day, and sanctified it... What
this means is, that He is going to bring the world to an end in six
thousand years, since with Him one day means a thousand years…

So how many years from man’s creation to Christ’s death

ADAM--->FLOOD 1 656
FLOOD--->ABRAHAM 427
ABRAHAM--->EXODUS 430
EXODUS--->TEMPLE 480
TEMPLE--->NEBUCHADNEZZAR 406
NEBUCHADNEZZAR--->CHRIST 601

TOTAL, ADAM----->CHRIST 4000 Years

The school of Elijah did not only say that there would be 4000 years
to Messiah, however. It also says that there would be 2000 years until
destruction and Messiah's return. Where are we now in relation to the
ending of that 2000 years?

There will be 4000 years to Jesus' DEATH, not His birth, and thus 2000
years from His death would make year 2000 be somewhere around the year
2030 AD

ADJUSTING THE JEWISH CALENDAR
Some may wonder if the above accounting is correct, why isn't the
current year on the Jewish calendar close to the year 6000 if that is
truly the number of years since Adam. Instead the Jews give the
current year as somewhere in the 5760 area. There is thus about a 242
year difference between the dates we have just calculated above
(nearly 6000), and what the present Jewish calendar tells us (about
5760). What is the source of this difference?.

The compilers of the Seder Haddoroth, charged with arranging the
calendar, placed the rebellion of Bar Cochab as beginning at 3892
(from Adam). Now Bar Cochab's false claims to be the Messiah came in
132 A.D. So the Haddoroth compilers made 132 A.D. to be 3892. The
problem is that 132 A.D. was really the year 4130, that is 4130 years
from Adam. 3892 had already occured 238 years ago, in 107 B.C., the
beginning of the Hasmonean Kingdom.

The one thing more than any other which has caused the Jewish mind to
lose clarity and level-headed rationality is the claim of Jesus of
Nazareth to be the Messiah. If the chronology of their fathers had
been followed they would have had to take seriously the words of Jesus
given in the beginning of Mark's gospel: And saying, "The time is
fulfilled..." {MAR 1:15 KJV}

No! they could not do it! The preferred to go with Bar Cochab, one who
claimed to be the Messiah in 132 A.D. Bar Cochab proclaimed himself
Messiah and was accepted by Rabbi Aquiba. He raised the standard of
revolt in Judea and flouted the Romans.

p.s. total history of the earth would be the 7000 years of man and the
5 days before it which would bring the earths age to 12000 years once
the 1000 year reign of Christ is complete.


We know Jesus will return around 2030 but we can get more precise due
to an astrological event.

Apophis the time clock of Daniel
_________________________

Daniel uses a cycle of 7 years so what is that cycle based on except
the orbit of Apophis which is a 7 year orbit. There was a great
darkness for 3 hours when Jesus was crucified (Matthew 27:45 ) and it
was not a solar eclipse but a passing of Apophis which caused the
darkness. The first recording of a passover occurred with Moses
(Exodus 12:27)

Daniel 9
The Seventy “Sevens”
20 While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of
my people Israel and making my request to the LORD my God for his holy
hill— 21 while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in
the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the
evening sacrifice. 22 He instructed me and said to me, “Daniel, I have
now come to give you insight and understanding. 23 As soon as you
began to pray, a word went out, which I have come to tell you, for you
are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the word and understand the
vision:

24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city
to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for
wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision
and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to
restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler,
comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will
be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26
After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death
and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will
destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood:
War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27
He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of
the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the
temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the
end that is decreed is poured out on him.

99942 Apophis (previously known by its provisional designation 2004
MN4) is a near-Earth asteroid with a 7 year orbit that caused initial
observations to indicated a small probability (up to 2.7%) that it
would strike the Earth in 2029. Additional observations provided
improved predictions that eliminated the possibility of an impact on
Earth or the Moon in 2029. However, a possibility remained that during
the 2029 close encounter with Earth, Apophis would pass through a
gravitational keyhole, a precise region in space no more than about
600 meters across that would set up a future impact on April 13, 2036.

Possible impact effects

NASA initially estimated the energy that Apophis would have released
if it struck Earth as the equivalent of 1480 megatons of TNT. A later,
more refined NASA estimate was 880 megatons, then revised to 510
megatons.[3] The impacts which created the Barringer Crater or the
Tunguska event are estimated to be in the 3–10 megaton range. The 1883
eruption of Krakatoa was the equivalent of roughly 200 megatons.
Path of risk where 99942 Apophis may impact Earth in 2036.

The exact effects of any impact would vary based on the asteroid's
composition, and the location and angle of impact. Any impact would be
extremely detrimental to an area of thousands of square kilometres,
but would be unlikely to have long-lasting global effects, such as the
initiation of an impact winter.

Daniel 2:34 states that a rock not cut by humans hands will destroy
man’s kingdoms before Jesus returns and Revelation 8:8 says a great
mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea.

Apophis’ last orbit commences in April 13, 2029 and is completed in
April 13, 2036.

From these dates we can work out the rapture and the return of Christ
as we have the 7 year time frame precisely. We know the rapture will
occur on the Feast of Trumpets and Jesus’ return will occur on Day of
Atonement.

Half way into Apophis final orbit will bring us to September 2032, the
rapture date being on the Feast of Trumpets which occurs on the 6th
and 7th of September 2032. The reason why the rapture occurs on 2 days
which is counted as one long day is because around the world it is not
the same day at the same time. Some nations today at a particular
moment can e another tomorrow or yesterday depend on where you are and
where your comparing to.Jesus return to earth will come after Apophis
hits the earth in April 2036 on the Day of Atonement on the 1st of
October 2036.

Daniel 12:10-12 (New International Version, ©2011)10 Many will be
purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to
be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise
will understand. 11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is
abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there
will be 1,290 days. 12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches
the end of the 1,335 days.

Looking at the last 7 years closely

Daniel 9:27
He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of
the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the
temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the
end that is decreed is poured out on him. ”We have two time periods,
before the break and after the break.

Before the covenant is broken Jerusalem has been given to the non Jews
but the temple is Jewish and it is the start of God’s two witnesses
preaching work.

Revelation 11:2
But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been
given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42
months.

Revelation 11:3
And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260
days, clothed in sackcloth.”
After the 42 months God’s people are rapture out for the remaining 42
months to heaven and the beast is in control.

Daniel 12
1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people,
will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened
from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—
everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2
Michael goes to heaven and then the distress comes but first God’s
people are raptured out notice in Revelation 12 the order. The woman
representing the raptured Christians are first protected, Michael goes
to heaven then throws out Satan and her angels to earth and they are
coming for the offspring or those of God’s people left.

Revelation 12
The Woman and the Dragon
3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with
seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail
swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth.
The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so
that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave
birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an
iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his
throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for
her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against
the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was
not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great
dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or
Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth,
and his angels with him.
10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
11 They triumphed over him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short.”

Revelation 13:5
The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and
to exercise its authority for forty-two months.

Revelation 7 (New International Version, ©2011)

The Great Multitude in White Robes

9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that
no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language,
standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing
white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they
cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.”
11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the
elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces
before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:
“Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!”
13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are
they, and where did they come from?”
14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great
tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the
blood of the Lamb.

Pastor Dave

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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:13:54 -0800 (PST), martus
<martt...@hotmail.com> spake thusly:


> The rapture will occur in 6th and 7th of September 2032
> and Jesus return to rule will occur in 1st of October 2036
> and here is why:

Ah, the Futurist! Tell them about a belief and they say
it can't be true, since "no one knows the day, nor the hour".

Unless of course, they're the ones picking it! :)

I have a prediction though! And watch me shine here!


You will become a nut job on March 15, 2011.


Oh, darn! I'm wrong again! You're already a nut job!

Man, I never get it right! :)

--

Pastor Dave

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The Last Days were in the first century:

"For yet, A LITTLE WHILE, and He that shall come
will come, and WILL NOT TARRY. - Hebrews 10:37

manum...@gmail.com

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It appears we have something in common.I feel the Second Coming will be in 2034 and my Blog at this address shows why. http://manumuskin.blog.com/.
.Our conclusions are similar though we use differing reason to get to them.
reply here if you find the blog interesting and I'll send my email

Feffeleskin

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Oh oh. Another screwy Harold Camping. Crazy as all hell.




<manum...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0f84335f-50f0-46d2...@googlegroups.com...
> 1) Passover (Leviticus 23:5) - Pointed to the Messiah as our Passover
> lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) whose blood would be shed for our sins. Jesus
> was crucified on the day of preparation for the Passover at the same
> hour that the lambs were being slaughtered for the Passover meal that
> evening.
>
> 2) Unleavened Bread (Leviticus 23:6) - Pointed to the Messiah's
> sinless life (as leaven is a picture of sin in the Bible), making Him
> the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' body was in the grave
> during the first days of this feast, like a kernel of wheat planted
> and waiting to burst forth as the bread of life.
>
> 3) First Fruits (Leviticus 23:10) - Pointed to the Messiah's
> resurrection as the first fruits of the righteous. Jesus was
> resurrected on this very day, which is one of the reasons that Paul
> refers to him in I Corinthians 15:20 as the "first fruits from the
> dead."
>
> 4) Weeks or Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16) - Occurred fifty days after
> the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and pointed to the
> great harvest of souls and the gift of the Holy Spirit for both Jew
> and Gentile, who would be brought into the kingdom of God during the
> Church Age (see Acts 2). The Church was actually established on this
> day when God poured out His Holy Spirit and 3,000 Jews responded to
> Peter's great sermon and his first proclamation of the Gospel.
>
> TO COME
>
> 5) Trumpets (Leviticus 23:24) - The first of the fall feasts. Many
> believe this day points to the Rapture of the Church when the Messiah
> Jesus will appear in the heavens as He comes for His bride, the
> Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing
> of a loud trumpet (I Thessalonians 4:13-18 and I Corinthians 15:52).
>
> 6) Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:27) - Many believe this
> prophetically points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He
> will return to earth. That will be the Day of Atonement for the Jewish
> remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of
> their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10 and
> Romans 11:1-6, 25-36).
>
> 7) Tabernacles or Booths (Leviticus 23:34) - Many scholars believe
> elapsed, would be succeeded by a joyful Sabbath of a thousand years.
>
> The Epistle of Barnabas of the 2nd century said:
>
> In six days God created the works of his hands, and finished them on
> the seventh day; and he rested on that day, and sanctified it... What
> this means is, that He is going to bring the world to an end in six
> thousand years, since with Him one day means a thousand years.
> hill- 21 while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in
> Tunguska event are estimated to be in the 3-10 megaton range. The 1883
> from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-
> everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered. 2
> Michael goes to heaven and then the distress comes but first God's
> people are raptured out notice in Revelation 12 the order. The woman
> representing the raptured Christians are first protected, Michael goes
> to heaven then throws out Satan and her angels to earth and they are
> coming for the offspring or those of God's people left.
>
> Revelation 12
> The Woman and the Dragon
> 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with
> seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail
> swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth.
> The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so
> that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave
> birth to a son, a male child, who "will rule all the nations with an
> iron scepter."[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his
> throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for
> her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
> 7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against
> the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was
> not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great
> dragon was hurled down-that ancient serpent called the devil, or
> 13 Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes-who are

Abrams1117

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Jan 27, 2013, 10:39:27 AM1/27/13
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Jesus was resurrected on the wave sheaf, as the first of the coming harvest.




>
> 4) Weeks or Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16) – Occurred fifty days after
> the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and pointed to the
> great harvest of souls and the gift of the Holy Spirit for both Jew
> and Gentile, who would be brought into the kingdom of God during the
> Church Age (see Acts 2). The Church was actually established on this
> day when God poured out His Holy Spirit and 3,000 Jews responded to
> Peter's great sermon and his first proclamation of the Gospel.

Jews?


>
> TO COME
>
> 5) Trumpets (Leviticus 23:24) – The first of the fall feasts. Many
> believe this day points to the Rapture of the Church when the Messiah
> Jesus will appear in the heavens as He comes for His bride, the
> Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing
> of a loud trumpet (I Thessalonians 4:13-18 and I Corinthians 15:52).

At the seventh trump the dead are raised when Jesus comes to rule the Earth.


>
> 6) Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:27) – Many believe this
> prophetically points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He
> will return to earth. That will be the Day of Atonement for the Jewish
> remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of
> their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10 and
> Romans 11:1-6, 25-36).

On the Day of Atonement Satan, the scape goat, will be sealed away for 1,000 years.

>
> 7) Tabernacles or Booths (Leviticus 23:34) – Many scholars believe
> that this feast day points to the Lord's promise that He will once
> again “tabernacle” with His people when He returns to reign over all
> the world (Micah 4:1-7). The 1000 year rule of Christ on earth and
> then eternity.

Not eternity, after death is no more Jesus will give all power back to GOD.
Jesus is not coming back for more than 200 years.

He MUST come back by the end of the 6th GOD Day.

But, he will not return until it is almost here.

*

Ike

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Feb 14, 2013, 6:20:49 AM2/14/13
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On 1/27/2013 10:39 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:

[snippeth]

> Not eternity, after death is no more Jesus will give all power back to GOD.

Jesus IS God, moron.

The term is "The Father," not "God."

And it says nothing about "power;" it says "all things."

Yeesh, you can't even read what's written, can you, blasphemer?

Ike

Abrams1117

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Feb 14, 2013, 7:39:18 AM2/14/13
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Hey! Dog poop! How have you been?

Still pissing on Scripture I see.

1 Cor. 15 28

New International Version (©1984)
When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God's authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.

English Standard Version (©2001)
When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
And when everything is subject to Christ, then the Son Himself will also be subject to the One who subjected everything to Him, so that God may be all in all.

International Standard Version (©2012)
But when everything has been put under him, then the Son himself will also become subject to the one who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And when all is subjected to him, then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him, that God might be all in all.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
But when God puts everything under Christ's authority, the Son will put himself under God's authority, since God had put everything under the Son's authority. Then God will be in control of everything.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

American King James Version
And when all things shall be subdued to him, then shall the Son also himself be subject to him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

American Standard Version
And when all things have been subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him, that God may be all in all.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then the Son also himself shall be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Darby Bible Translation
But when all things shall have been brought into subjection to him, then the Son also himself shall be placed in subjection to him who put all things in subjection to him, that God may be all in all.)

English Revised Version
And when all things have been subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him, that God may be all in all.

Webster's Bible Translation
And when all things shall be subdued to him, then shall the Son also himself be subject to him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Weymouth New Testament
But when the whole universe has been made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also become subject to Him who has made the universe subject to Him, in order that GOD may be all in all.

World English Bible
When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.

Young's Literal Translation
and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the all in all.

Ike

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On 2/14/2013 7:39 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:20:49 AM UTC-2, Ike wrote:
>> On 1/27/2013 10:39 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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> Hey! Dog poop! How have you been?
>
> Still pissing on Scripture I see.
>
> 1 Cor. 15 28
>
> New International Version (�1984)
> When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Did you notice that...

1) The bastard lifted the verse OUT OF CONTEXT. Paul interjects "the
Father" as God to distinguish between Him and the Son as God at the very
beginning of the passage....

1Co 15:
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to
God, EVEN THE FATHER; when he shall have put down all rule and all
authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all
things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did
put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son
also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God
may be all in all.

2) The bastard deliberately ignored the closing statement in which Paul
says that "God" will be ALL IN ALL, that is, EVERYONE THAT IS IN THE
CLUB WILL BE "GOD," AS ONE (which Jesus being the titular head and
lowest foot of "God ALL IN ALL").

Just goes to show what happens when one-digit mental-midgets like the
moron here gets their hands on writings they haven't even begun to
comprehend.

Ike





Abrams1117

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Feb 14, 2013, 4:11:44 PM2/14/13
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LOL! You people are too funny!

There are manyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy posts between us with you saying the Father is never called GOD!

What a joke.

And...

New International Version (©1984)
Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.

New Living Translation (©2007)
After that the end will come, when he will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power.

English Standard Version (©2001)
Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father, when He abolishes all rule and all authority and power.

International Standard Version (©2012)
Then the end will come, when after he has done away with every ruler and every authority and power, the Messiah hands over the kingdom to God the Father.


Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And then the end will come, when he will deliver The Kingdom to God The Father, when he will destroy every Ruler and every Authority and all Powers.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Then the end will come. Christ will hand over the kingdom to God the Father as he destroys every ruler, authority, and power.


American King James Version
Then comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.


Darby Bible Translation
Then the end, when he gives up the kingdom to him who is God and Father; when he shall have annulled all rule and all authority and power.


Weymouth New Testament
Later on, comes the End, when He is to surrender the Kingship to God, the Father, when He shall have overthrown all other government and all other authority and power.

World English Bible
Then the end comes, when he will deliver up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when he will have abolished all rule and all authority and power.

Young's Literal Translation
then -- the end, when he may deliver up the reign to God, even the Father, when he may have made useless all rule, and all authority and power --

Jesus called GOD his Father and his GOD.



Abrams1117

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On Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:22:31 PM UTC-2, Ike wrote:
In the club?

You`re a bad joke.

Ike

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I never said any such thing, you illiterate idiot.

I said the designation "the Father" WAS ADOPTED BECAUSE IT WAS NECESSARY
TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN HIM AND GOD "THE SON," something that REAL
Christians HAVE BEEN TEACHING FOR 2,000 YEARS, antichristian cultist.

Yeesh, are you ever stupid.

Ike

Abrams1117

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Feb 15, 2013, 7:56:16 AM2/15/13
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Yes, you did.




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> I said the designation "the Father" WAS ADOPTED BECAUSE IT WAS NECESSARY
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> TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN HIM AND GOD "THE SON," something that REAL
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> Christians HAVE BEEN TEACHING FOR 2,000 YEARS, antichristian cultist.

Let us go back to this topic for the thousandth time....did Jesus Christ call his Father GOD?

No matter how you answer, you lose.



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> Yeesh, are you ever stupid.


Answer. Even though you will probably lie like you usually do.

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> Ike

Ike

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Feb 15, 2013, 1:01:00 PM2/15/13
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Of course Jesus called His Father God, since HE IS GOD JUST LIKE HIM.

How stupid can you be, antichristian?

>>
>> Yeesh, are you ever stupid.
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>
> Answer.

I have answered. Repeatedly.

That you're an illiterate antichristian cult moron who can't read what's
written in the world OR the Bible is your problem.

Ike

Abrams1117

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On Friday, February 15, 2013 4:01:00 PM UTC-2, Ike wrote:
> On 2/15/2013 7:56 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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> > On Friday, February 15, 2013 7:38:56 AM UTC-2, Ike wrote:
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> >> On 2/14/2013 4:11 PM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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Since you snipped the question here it is again...

Let us go back to this topic for the thousandth time....did Jesus Christ call his Father GOD?

But, it really doesn`t matter if or how you answer.

Because you don`t matter.




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> Ike

GSI

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Feb 17, 2013, 9:44:56 PM2/17/13
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It's ALL METAPHORICAL. You are wasting your time trying to understand
this stuff LITERALLY. God is NOT A PERSON. God has never spoken, or
written even ONE WORD, no matter what you think the Bible says.
There is NO hierarchy of "authority", with "Jesus", "God" or anyone else.
There is NO "CLUB" of approved or special people.

Christianity is not some private golf and country club with an EXCLUSIVE
membership. Some of this kind of thinking is even written into the Bible.
You have to be careful what you read, even in the Bible.

Christianity is about "entering the Kingdom of Heaven" AKA experiencing
enlightenment. The Bible will not get you into the Kingdom, no matter how
much you understand it.

The endless arguments about scriptural meaning here are no different
than arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
They won't help anyone.

Ike

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On 2/17/2013 8:55 PM, Abrams1117 wrote:
> On Friday, February 15, 2013 4:01:00 PM UTC-2, Ike wrote:
>> On 2/15/2013 7:56 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, February 15, 2013 7:38:56 AM UTC-2, Ike wrote:
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>>>> On 2/14/2013 4:11 PM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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And I've already answered it, antichrist.

Ike

Abrams1117

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On Monday, February 18, 2013 12:31:07 PM UTC-3, Ike wrote:
> On 2/17/2013 8:55 PM, Abrams1117 wrote:
>
> > On Friday, February 15, 2013 4:01:00 PM UTC-2, Ike wrote:
>
> >> On 2/15/2013 7:56 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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If you do not want people to know you believe that Jesus` Father is not GOD then you should never have posted it.


Ike

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On 2/18/2013 10:38 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:

[snippeth]

> If you do not want people to know you believe that Jesus` Father is not GOD then you should never have posted it.

I never said any such thing, you illiterate idiot. The Father is God.
The Holy Spirit is God. The Son is God.

This is what Christians believe.

You're not a Christian, therefore, you don't believe it.

Hence, you are antichrist, and Jesus Christ is nothing before you, and
you are nothing before Him.

Ike

GSI

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Feb 19, 2013, 12:17:57 PM2/19/13
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He's a skeleton, so, no problem!

Abrams1117

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Feb 19, 2013, 12:49:32 PM2/19/13
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On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:32:11 PM UTC-3, Ike wrote:
> On 2/18/2013 10:38 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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> > If you do not want people to know you believe that Jesus` Father is not GOD then you should never have posted it.
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> I never said any such thing, you illiterate idiot. The Father is God.
>
> The Holy Spirit is God. The Son is God.

Let`s try this again for the hundredth time, shall we?

Did Jesus call his Father GOD?

Ike

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Feb 20, 2013, 2:40:30 AM2/20/13
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On 2/19/2013 12:49 PM, Abrams1117 wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:32:11 PM UTC-3, Ike wrote:
>> On 2/18/2013 10:38 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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>>> If you do not want people to know you believe that Jesus` Father is not GOD then you should never have posted it.
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>> I never said any such thing, you illiterate idiot. The Father is God.
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>> The Holy Spirit is God. The Son is God.
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> Let`s try this again for the hundredth time, shall we?

What a God-damned (literally) fool.

CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE: The Father is God; the Son is God; the Holy Spirit
is God.

Been that way for 2,000 years; and I've never said anything different,
you illiterate idiot.

Ike

Abrams1117

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On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:40:30 AM UTC-3, Ike wrote:
> On 2/19/2013 12:49 PM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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> > On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:32:11 PM UTC-3, Ike wrote:
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> >> On 2/18/2013 10:38 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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> > Let`s try this again for the hundredth time, shall we?
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> What a God-damned (literally) fool.

Ike, you say I am A FOOL, yet you cannot even read.

Once again, did Jesus call his Father, GOD?

Ike

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Feb 20, 2013, 9:06:04 AM2/20/13
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On 2/20/2013 7:39 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:40:30 AM UTC-3, Ike wrote:
>> On 2/19/2013 12:49 PM, Abrams1117 wrote:
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>>> On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:32:11 PM UTC-3, Ike wrote:
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>> What a God-damned (literally) fool.

[snip the usual rhetorical bullshit cause by the fool's own illiteracy]

>> CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE: The Father is God; the Son is God; the Holy Spirit
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>> Been that way for 2,000 years; and I've never said anything different,
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>> you illiterate idiot.

And still is, antichristian.

Ike

Abrams1117

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Feb 20, 2013, 11:23:49 AM2/20/13
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You illiterate fool and still is?

Anyway, for the 103rd time, did Jesus call his Father, GOD?

paintb...@hotmail.com

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a possibility remained that during
the 2029 close encounter with Earth, Apophis would pass through a
gravitational keyhole, a precise region in space no more than about
600 meters across that would set up a future impact on April 13, 2036

keyhole = key to the bottomless pit

paintb...@hotmail.com

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Dec 15, 2014, 1:12:54 AM12/15/14
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a possibility remained that during
the 2029 close encounter with Earth, Apophis would pass through a
gravitational keyhole, a precise region in space no more than about

vivapa...@aol.com

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We are the generation that saw Israel become a nation, so we are the generation that will witness the second coming of Christ. About 1212 days 'til Israel's 70th.

Ike

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Dec 22, 2014, 11:08:56 AM12/22/14
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Bullshit.

Not once did Jesus or the prophets ever say or imply such a thing.

The only thing that is necessary is that an "Israel" (fake) be in place,
and that the temple (also fake) be built, despite the fact that Jesus
condemned them then, and in the future.

Ike

johann...@gmail.com

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johann...@gmail.com

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On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 at 1:49:32 AM UTC+8, Abrams1117 wrote:
Yes. He did. He said:" I ascended to my God, and your God. To my Father, and your Father."

johann...@gmail.com

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On Saturday, January 26, 2013 at 2:50:25 AM UTC+8, manum...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:13:54 AM UTC-5, martus wrote:
> > The rapture will occur in 6th and 7th of September 2032 and Jesus
> > return to rule will occur in 1st of October 2036 and here is why:
> >
> >
> > The way in which Jesus fulfilled the Jewish feasts is a fascinating
> > study. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the Jewish prophet Amos records that
> > God declared He would do nothing without first revealing it to His
> > servants, the Prophets (Amos 3:7). From the Old Covenant to the New,
> > Genesis to Revelation, God provides picture after picture of His
> > entire plan for mankind and one of the most startling prophetic
> > pictures is outlined for us in the Jewish Feasts of Leviticus 23.
> >
> > The Hebrew word for feasts (moadim) literally means "appointed times."
> > God has carefully planned and orchestrated the timing and sequence of
> > each of these seven feasts to reveal to us a special story. The seven
> > annual feasts of Israel were spread over seven months of the Jewish
> > calendar, at set times appointed by God. They are still celebrated by
> > observant Jews today. But for both Jews and non-Jews who have placed
> > their faith in Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, these special days
> > demonstrate the work of redemption through God’s Son.
> >
> > The first four of the seven feasts occur during the springtime
> > (Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Weeks) and they all
> > have already been fulfilled by Christ in the New Testament. The final
> > three holidays (Trumpets, The Day of Atonement, and Tabernacles) occur
> > during the fall.
> > Many Bible scholars and commentators believe that these fall feasts
> > have not yet been fulfilled by Jesus. However, the “blessed
> > hope” (Titus 2:13) for all believers in Jesus Christ is that they
> > most
> > assuredly will. As the four spring feasts were fulfilled literally and
> > right on the actual feast day in connection with Christ's first
> > coming, these three fall feasts, it is believed by many, will
> > likewise
> > be fulfilled literally in connection to the Lord's second coming.
> >
> > In a nutshell, here is the prophetic significance of each of the seven
> > Levitical feasts of Israel:
> >
> > 1) Passover (Leviticus 23:5) – Pointed to the Messiah as our Passover
> > lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) whose blood would be shed for our sins. Jesus
> > was crucified on the day of preparation for the Passover at the same
> > hour that the lambs were being slaughtered for the Passover meal that
> > evening.
> >
> > 2) Unleavened Bread (Leviticus 23:6) – Pointed to the Messiah's
> > sinless life (as leaven is a picture of sin in the Bible), making Him
> > the perfect sacrifice for our sins. Jesus' body was in the grave
> > during the first days of this feast, like a kernel of wheat planted
> > and waiting to burst forth as the bread of life.
> >
> > 3) First Fruits (Leviticus 23:10) – Pointed to the Messiah's
> > resurrection as the first fruits of the righteous. Jesus was
> > resurrected on this very day, which is one of the reasons that Paul
> > refers to him in I Corinthians 15:20 as the "first fruits from the
> > dead."
> >
> > 4) Weeks or Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16) – Occurred fifty days after
> > the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and pointed to the
> > great harvest of souls and the gift of the Holy Spirit for both Jew
> > and Gentile, who would be brought into the kingdom of God during the
> > Church Age (see Acts 2). The Church was actually established on this
> > day when God poured out His Holy Spirit and 3,000 Jews responded to
> > Peter's great sermon and his first proclamation of the Gospel.
> >
> > TO COME
> >
> > 5) Trumpets (Leviticus 23:24) – The first of the fall feasts. Many
> > believe this day points to the Rapture of the Church when the Messiah
> > Jesus will appear in the heavens as He comes for His bride, the
> > Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing
> > of a loud trumpet (I Thessalonians 4:13-18 and I Corinthians 15:52).
> >
> > 6) Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:27) – Many believe this
> > prophetically points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He
> > will return to earth. That will be the Day of Atonement for the Jewish
> > remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of
> > their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10 and
> > Romans 11:1-6, 25-36).
> >
> > 7) Tabernacles or Booths (Leviticus 23:34) – Many scholars believe
> > that this feast day points to the Lord's promise that He will once
> > again “tabernacle” with His people when He returns to reign over all
> > the world (Micah 4:1-7). The 1000 year rule of Christ on earth and
> > then eternity.
> >
> > The timing of the rapture and 2nd coming of Christ can be found in
> > various ways from the bible which remarkable point to around the same
> > time and here they are:
> >
> > First we need to determine when Christ was killed:
> >
> > Sir Isaac Newton undertook a very credible analysis of the '490 year'
> > prophecy and applied his extensive knowledge of ancient history which
> > allowed him to identify the Persian king as Artaxerxes I (Artaxerxes
> > Longimanus), and to place the decree in the year 458 BC.
> >
> > Newton then calculated the Crucifixion date as being either in AD 33
> > or 34. The way he did it was remarkable, because he used his own new
> > theory of gravity to calculate the position of the moon in antiquity
> > to reconstruct the Judean calendar to find a year in which the day of
> > the preparation for Passover fell on a Friday. That same method was
> > "rediscovered" some two centuries later by someone totally unfamiliar
> > with Newton's work, with the same results.
> >
> > Newton then pointed out that Daniel's prophecy of seventy weeks, or
> > 490 years, would fit perfectly either between the year of Ezra's
> > commission in 458 BC and AD 33, which he acknowledged as the commonly
> > accepted year for the Crucifixion, or it could also fit between the
> > years 457 BC when Ezra actually got started working and AD 34.
> >
> > Newton favoured the latter choice for two reasons. First it makes
> > Daniel's prophecy come out even not only in weeks of years, but both
> > ends would also fall in the sacred seventh sabbatical year of the
> > cycle. That is, both the years 457 BC and AD 34 were Jewish sabbatical
> > years, which seemed like a very tidy fit to Newton because the entire
> > prophecy was about weeks of years. Secondly, Newton favoured AD 34
> > because he thought he found evidence for the Saviour's ministry having
> > been 4½ years, rather than the traditional 3½ years.
> >
> >
> > Working on the assumption that the year of Jesus crucifixion was 34 AD
> >
> > 2 Peter 3:8 With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a
> > thousand years are like a day.
> > Hosea 6:2 (Amplified Bible)
> >
> > 2After two days He will revive us (quicken us, give us life); on the
> > third day He will raise us up that we may live before Him.
> >
> > Luke 24:7 The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of
> > sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.
> >
> > Mankind was revived and given new life (the Holy Spirit) on Pentecost
> > 50 days after Jesus was crucified almost 2000 years ago and on the
> > third day we will be with Him and again in Luke Jesus is gone for 2
> > days and back on the third. Peter says a day of God’s represents a
> > 1000 years in our time.
> >
> > 2000 years on the death of Jesus brings us to Jesus’ return about 2034
> >
> >
> > A rough indication of finding out when Jesus will return is from the
> > below bible verse:
> >
> > Matthew 24
> > 32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs
> > get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33
> > Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near,
> > right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly
> > not pass away until all these things have happened. Jesus was talking
> > about the end times and the rebirth of Israel which
> >
> > became a nation in 1948. The fig tree (Israel) came to life and those
> > that are still left from this generation that saw Israel become a
> > nation will also see the return of Jesus. So all other prophecys that
> > haven't been fulfilled yet need to be fulfilled before all this
> > generation dies.
> >
> > In the Old Testament the fig tree was a picture of Israel (Hosea
> > 9:10, Joel 1:7), and in the New Testament Jesus' cursing of the fig
> > tree was a picture of his coming judgment against Israel (Matthew
> > 21:19, 43; Mark 11:14-15).
> >
> > The generation of 1948 can live up to a maximum of 120 years which
> > would bring Jesus return from 1948 +120 which means any time up to the
> > year 2068.
> >
> >
> > 7000 years
> >
> > Many Christians have believed, and many still believe, that the
> > Millennium will start 6,000 years after Creation. According to Edward
> > Gibbon:
> >
> > The ancient and popular doctrine of the Millennium was intimately
> > connected with the second coming of Christ. As the works of creation
> > had been finished in six days, their duration in the present state,
> > according to a tradition which was attributed to the prophet Elijah,
> > was fixed to six thousand years. By the same analogy it was inferred
> > that this long period of labour and contention, which was now almost
> > elapsed, would be succeeded by a joyful Sabbath of a thousand years…
> >
> > The Epistle of Barnabas of the 2nd century said:
> >
> > In six days God created the works of his hands, and finished them on
> > the seventh day; and he rested on that day, and sanctified it... What
> > this means is, that He is going to bring the world to an end in six
> > thousand years, since with Him one day means a thousand years…
> >
> > So how many years from man’s creation to Christ’s death
> >
> > ADAM--->FLOOD 1 656
> > FLOOD--->ABRAHAM 427
> > ABRAHAM--->EXODUS 430
> > EXODUS--->TEMPLE 480
> > TEMPLE--->NEBUCHADNEZZAR 406
> > NEBUCHADNEZZAR--->CHRIST 601
> >
> > TOTAL, ADAM----->CHRIST 4000 Years
> >
> > The school of Elijah did not only say that there would be 4000 years
> > to Messiah, however. It also says that there would be 2000 years until
> > destruction and Messiah's return. Where are we now in relation to the
> > ending of that 2000 years?
> >
> > There will be 4000 years to Jesus' DEATH, not His birth, and thus 2000
> > years from His death would make year 2000 be somewhere around the year
> > 2030 AD
> >
> > ADJUSTING THE JEWISH CALENDAR
> > Some may wonder if the above accounting is correct, why isn't the
> > current year on the Jewish calendar close to the year 6000 if that is
> > truly the number of years since Adam. Instead the Jews give the
> > current year as somewhere in the 5760 area. There is thus about a 242
> > year difference between the dates we have just calculated above
> > (nearly 6000), and what the present Jewish calendar tells us (about
> > 5760). What is the source of this difference?.
> >
> > The compilers of the Seder Haddoroth, charged with arranging the
> > calendar, placed the rebellion of Bar Cochab as beginning at 3892
> > (from Adam). Now Bar Cochab's false claims to be the Messiah came in
> > 132 A.D. So the Haddoroth compilers made 132 A.D. to be 3892. The
> > problem is that 132 A.D. was really the year 4130, that is 4130 years
> > from Adam. 3892 had already occured 238 years ago, in 107 B.C., the
> > beginning of the Hasmonean Kingdom.
> >
> > The one thing more than any other which has caused the Jewish mind to
> > lose clarity and level-headed rationality is the claim of Jesus of
> > Nazareth to be the Messiah. If the chronology of their fathers had
> > been followed they would have had to take seriously the words of Jesus
> > given in the beginning of Mark's gospel: And saying, "The time is
> > fulfilled..." {MAR 1:15 KJV}
> >
> > No! they could not do it! The preferred to go with Bar Cochab, one who
> > claimed to be the Messiah in 132 A.D. Bar Cochab proclaimed himself
> > Messiah and was accepted by Rabbi Aquiba. He raised the standard of
> > revolt in Judea and flouted the Romans.
> >
> > p.s. total history of the earth would be the 7000 years of man and the
> > 5 days before it which would bring the earths age to 12000 years once
> > the 1000 year reign of Christ is complete.
> >
> >
> > We know Jesus will return around 2030 but we can get more precise due
> > to an astrological event.
> >
> > Apophis the time clock of Daniel
> > _________________________
> >
> > Daniel uses a cycle of 7 years so what is that cycle based on except
> > the orbit of Apophis which is a 7 year orbit. There was a great
> > darkness for 3 hours when Jesus was crucified (Matthew 27:45 ) and it
> > was not a solar eclipse but a passing of Apophis which caused the
> > darkness. The first recording of a passover occurred with Moses
> > (Exodus 12:27)
> >
> > Daniel 9
> > The Seventy “Sevens”
> > 20 While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of
> > my people Israel and making my request to the LORD my God for his holy
> > hill— 21 while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in
> > the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the
> > evening sacrifice. 22 He instructed me and said to me, “Daniel, I have
> > now come to give you insight and understanding. 23 As soon as you
> > began to pray, a word went out, which I have come to tell you, for you
> > are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the word and understand the
> > vision:
> >
> > 24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city
> > to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for
> > wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision
> > and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.
> >
> > 25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to
> > restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler,
> > comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will
> > be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26
> > After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death
> > and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will
> > destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood:
> > War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27
> > He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of
> > the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the
> > temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the
> > end that is decreed is poured out on him.
> >
> > 99942 Apophis (previously known by its provisional designation 2004
> > MN4) is a near-Earth asteroid with a 7 year orbit that caused initial
> > observations to indicated a small probability (up to 2.7%) that it
> > would strike the Earth in 2029. Additional observations provided
> > improved predictions that eliminated the possibility of an impact on
> > Earth or the Moon in 2029. However, a possibility remained that during
> > the 2029 close encounter with Earth, Apophis would pass through a
> > gravitational keyhole, a precise region in space no more than about
> > 600 meters across that would set up a future impact on April 13, 2036.
> >
> > Possible impact effects
> >
> > NASA initially estimated the energy that Apophis would have released
> > if it struck Earth as the equivalent of 1480 megatons of TNT. A later,
> > more refined NASA estimate was 880 megatons, then revised to 510
> > megatons.[3] The impacts which created the Barringer Crater or the
> > Tunguska event are estimated to be in the 3–10 megaton range. The 1883
> > eruption of Krakatoa was the equivalent of roughly 200 megatons.
> > Path of risk where 99942 Apophis may impact Earth in 2036.
> >
> > The exact effects of any impact would vary based on the asteroid's
> > composition, and the location and angle of impact. Any impact would be
> > extremely detrimental to an area of thousands of square kilometres,
> > but would be unlikely to have long-lasting global effects, such as the
> > initiation of an impact winter.
> >
> > Daniel 2:34 states that a rock not cut by humans hands will destroy
> > man’s kingdoms before Jesus returns and Revelation 8:8 says a great
> > mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea.
> >
> > Apophis’ last orbit commences in April 13, 2029 and is completed in
> > April 13, 2036.
> >
> > From these dates we can work out the rapture and the return of Christ
> > as we have the 7 year time frame precisely. We know the rapture will
> > occur on the Feast of Trumpets and Jesus’ return will occur on Day of
> > Atonement.
> >
> > Half way into Apophis final orbit will bring us to September 2032, the
> > rapture date being on the Feast of Trumpets which occurs on the 6th
> > and 7th of September 2032. The reason why the rapture occurs on 2 days
> > which is counted as one long day is because around the world it is not
> > the same day at the same time. Some nations today at a particular
> > moment can e another tomorrow or yesterday depend on where you are and
> > where your comparing to.Jesus return to earth will come after Apophis
> > hits the earth in April 2036 on the Day of Atonement on the 1st of
> > October 2036.
> >
> > Daniel 12:10-12 (New International Version, ©2011)10 Many will be
> > purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to
> > be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise
> > will understand. 11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is
> > abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there
> > will be 1,290 days. 12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches
> > the end of the 1,335 days.
> >
> > Looking at the last 7 years closely
> >
> > Daniel 9:27
> > He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of
> > the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the
> > temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the
> > end that is decreed is poured out on him. ”We have two time periods,
> > before the break and after the break.
> >
> > Before the covenant is broken Jerusalem has been given to the non Jews
> > but the temple is Jewish and it is the start of God’s two witnesses
> > preaching work.
> >
> > Revelation 11:2
> > But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been
> > given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42
> > months.
> >
> > Revelation 11:3
> > And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260
> > days, clothed in sackcloth.”
> > After the 42 months God’s people are rapture out for the remaining 42
> > months to heaven and the beast is in control.
> >
> > Daniel 12
> > 1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people,
> > will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened
> > from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—
> > everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2
> > Michael goes to heaven and then the distress comes but first God’s
> > people are raptured out notice in Revelation 12 the order. The woman
> > representing the raptured Christians are first protected, Michael goes
> > to heaven then throws out Satan and her angels to earth and they are
> > coming for the offspring or those of God’s people left.
> >
> > Revelation 12
> > The Woman and the Dragon
> > 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with
> > seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail
> > swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth.
> > The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so
> > that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave
> > birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an
> > iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his
> > throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for
> > her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
> > 7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against
> > the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was
> > not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great
> > dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or
> > Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth,
> > and his angels with him.
> > 10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
> > “Now have come the salvation and the power
> > and the kingdom of our God,
> > and the authority of his Messiah.
> > For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
> > who accuses them before our God day and night,
> > has been hurled down.
> > 11 They triumphed over him
> > by the blood of the Lamb
> > and by the word of their testimony;
> > they did not love their lives so much
> > as to shrink from death.
> > 12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
> > and you who dwell in them!
> > But woe to the earth and the sea,
> > because the devil has gone down to you!
> > He is filled with fury,
> > because he knows that his time is short.”
> >
> > Revelation 13:5
> > The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and
> > to exercise its authority for forty-two months.
> >
> > Revelation 7 (New International Version, ©2011)
> >
> > The Great Multitude in White Robes
> >
> > 9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that
> > no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language,
> > standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing
> > white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they
> > cried out in a loud voice:
> > “Salvation belongs to our God,
> > who sits on the throne,
> > and to the Lamb.”
> > 11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the
> > elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces
> > before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:
> > “Amen!
> > Praise and glory
> > and wisdom and thanks and honor
> > and power and strength
> > be to our God for ever and ever.
> > Amen!”
> > 13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are
> > they, and where did they come from?”
> > 14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
> > And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great
> > tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the
> > blood of the Lamb.
>
> It appears we have something in common.I feel the Second Coming will be in 2034 and my Blog at this address shows why. http://manumuskin.blog.com/.
> .Our conclusions are similar though we use differing reason to get to them.
> reply here if you find the blog interesting and I'll send my email

Hi! I'm interested in your computation. May I get your e-mail add.?

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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Viva:

Awww...look !!!!

The beginning of your countdown to May 14 2018 -
which day is now right around the corner !!!!




Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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On Sunday, January 27, 2013 at 10:39:27 AM UTC-5, Abrams1117 wrote:
> Jesus was resurrected on the wave sheaf, as the first of the coming harvest.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > 4) Weeks or Pentecost (Leviticus 23:16) – Occurred fifty days after
> > the beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and pointed to the
> > great harvest of souls and the gift of the Holy Spirit for both Jew
> > and Gentile, who would be brought into the kingdom of God during the
> > Church Age (see Acts 2). The Church was actually established on this
> > day when God poured out His Holy Spirit and 3,000 Jews responded to
> > Peter's great sermon and his first proclamation of the Gospel.
>
> Jews?
>
>
> >
> > TO COME
> >
> > 5) Trumpets (Leviticus 23:24) – The first of the fall feasts. Many
> > believe this day points to the Rapture of the Church when the Messiah
> > Jesus will appear in the heavens as He comes for His bride, the
> > Church. The Rapture is always associated in Scripture with the blowing
> > of a loud trumpet (I Thessalonians 4:13-18 and I Corinthians 15:52).
>
> At the seventh trump the dead are raised when Jesus comes to rule the Earth.
>
>
> >
> > 6) Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:27) – Many believe this
> > prophetically points to the day of the Second Coming of Jesus when He
> > will return to earth. That will be the Day of Atonement for the Jewish
> > remnant when they "look upon Him whom they have pierced," repent of
> > their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (Zechariah 12:10 and
> > Romans 11:1-6, 25-36).
>
> On the Day of Atonement Satan, the scape goat, will be sealed away for 1,000 years.
>
> >
> > 7) Tabernacles or Booths (Leviticus 23:34) – Many scholars believe
> > that this feast day points to the Lord's promise that He will once
> > again “tabernacle” with His people when He returns to reign over all
> > the world (Micah 4:1-7). The 1000 year rule of Christ on earth and
> > then eternity.
>
> Not eternity, after death is no more Jesus will give all power back to GOD.
>
>
> >
> > Earth or the Moon in 2029. However, a possibility remained that during
> > the 2029 close encounter with Earth, Apophis would pass through a
> > gravitational keyhole, a precise region in space no more than about
> Jesus is not coming back for more than 200 years.
>
> He MUST come back by the end of the 6th GOD Day.
>
> But, he will not return until it is almost here.
>
> *

Wow...lookey here !!!!

Back in January 2013
JAA said that Jesus
WOULD NOT be returning
until at least another
200 years,

but since at least November 2014
JAA has been saying that
Jesus WOULD return in
year 2017 !!!!

JOHN ALEXANDER ABRAMS: FALSE PROPHET
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/YRV5g0mWcow%5B1-25%5D




Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 7:39:18 AM UTC-5, Abrams1117 wrote:
> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:20:49 AM UTC-2, Ike wrote:
> > On 1/27/2013 10:39 AM, Abrams1117 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > [snippeth]
> >
> >
> >
> > > Not eternity, after death is no more Jesus will give all power back to GOD.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jesus IS God, moron.
> >
> >
> >
> > The term is "The Father," not "God."
> >
> >
> >
> > And it says nothing about "power;" it says "all things."
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeesh, you can't even read what's written, can you, blasphemer?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ike
>
> Hey! Dog poop! How have you been?
>
> Still pissing on Scripture I see.
>
> 1 Cor. 15 28
>
> New International Version (©1984)
> When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
>
> New Living Translation (©2007)
> Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God's authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.
>
> English Standard Version (©2001)
> When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.
>
> New American Standard Bible (©1995)
> When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
>
> Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
> And when everything is subject to Christ, then the Son Himself will also be subject to the One who subjected everything to Him, so that God may be all in all.
>
> International Standard Version (©2012)
> But when everything has been put under him, then the Son himself will also become subject to the one who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
>
> King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
> And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
>
> Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
> And when all is subjected to him, then the Son shall be subject to him who subjected all things to him, that God might be all in all.
>
> GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
> But when God puts everything under Christ's authority, the Son will put himself under God's authority, since God had put everything under the Son's authority. Then God will be in control of everything.
>
> King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
> And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
>
> American King James Version
> And when all things shall be subdued to him, then shall the Son also himself be subject to him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
>
> American Standard Version
> And when all things have been subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him, that God may be all in all.
>
> Douay-Rheims Bible
> And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then the Son also himself shall be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
>
> Darby Bible Translation
> But when all things shall have been brought into subjection to him, then the Son also himself shall be placed in subjection to him who put all things in subjection to him, that God may be all in all.)
>
> English Revised Version
> And when all things have been subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him, that God may be all in all.
>
> Webster's Bible Translation
> And when all things shall be subdued to him, then shall the Son also himself be subject to him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
>
> Weymouth New Testament
> But when the whole universe has been made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also become subject to Him who has made the universe subject to Him, in order that GOD may be all in all.
>
> World English Bible
> When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.
>
> Young's Literal Translation
> and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the all in all.

LOL !!!!

IKE CALLS JAA "MORON" AND "BLASPHEMER",

AND THEN JAA CALLS IKE "DOG POOP" THAT IS "PISSING ON SCRIPTURE".

LOL !!!!

AT LEAST IKE'S WORDS ARE RATIONAL.

DOG POOP DOES NOT PISS ON ANYTHING !!!!

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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Feb 15, 2018, 4:44:15 AM2/15/18
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You think there is a rapture
3 1/2 years before the return
of Jesus ????

The guy is wrong in the very
first thing that he says,
so I would not trust anything
else in his long diatribe.

1 Thessalonians 4 absolutely
clearly says that the rapture
of the righteous dead and
then the righteous quick
in to the air above the
clouds above Mount Olives
to meet greet join Jesus
as he continues his descent
back to Mount Olives whence
he last ascended from it to
effect his second coming or
return to Earth for a 1,000
year stay, shall occur
immediately after Jesus
begins that such descent,
which descent Jesus will
begin once the trumpet
signal is blown for him
to begin doing so,
which trumpet signal is
also mentioned in
1 Corinthians 15 in
exact same relation to
the return of Jesus by
descent from heaven and
the glorification and
raising or rapturing of
first the righteous dead
and then the righteous quick.

Also, the angels in Acts 1
clearly state that Jesus'
return would be by descending
back to Mount Olives,
and we see that return
descent back to Mount Olives
clearly described in
Zechariah 14 wherein we
are further told that
when Jesus' feet touch
Mount Olives it shall
split in two.

We also see the many scriptures
that say that Jesus MUST
stay sitting at the right
hand of God in heaven until
the enemy nations are gathered
together against Jerusalem as
a footstool for returning
Jesus' feet.

We also see Jesus' own statement
that the day of his return is
when the rapture would occur:
There would be two together,
and one would be taken and
one would be left. The one
taken is the righteous one.
The one left is the wicked one.
And the righteous one is taken
to where the raptors would be
gathered, which would be the
air above Mount Olives as
I just stated, because those
enemy nations at that point
in that area consist of at
least 200 million military
and when Jesus and those with
him break through the clouds
and alight to Mount Olives
and area they will kill all
those enemy nations and the
blood will rise to the horses
bridles and there will be so
much flesh that a great feast
will be called for the raptors
to come and eat that flesh.

YES, THAT RETURN DESCENT TO
MOUNT OLIVES ONCE THE ENEMY
NATIONS HAVE BEEN GATHERED
TOGETHER AGAINST JERUSALEM

AND THEN THE TWO WITNESSES
HAVE BEEN KILLED

AND THEN 3 1/2 DAYS HAVE
ALMOST EXPIRED

AND THEN THE RIGHTEOUS DEAD ARE
GLORIFIED AND RAPTURED

AND THEN AT THE 3 1/2 DAY
MARK THE RIGHTEOUS QUICK
ARE GLORIFIED AND RAPTURED
ALONG WITH THE TWO WITNESSES
WHEN GOD CALLS TO THEM AND SAYS,
COME UP HERE,

IS INDEED THE DAY THAT JESUS
WILL BE RETURNING IN THE EVENING
OF THAT DAY AND ALL THE GLORIFIED
AND RAPTURE RIGHTEOUS WITH HIM
WHEN THEY THEN BREAK THROUGH THE
CLOUDS AND ALIGHT TO THE MOUNT OLIVES
AND AREA AND THEN FIRSTLY DEFEND
THEMSELVES AGAINST THOSE ENEMY NATIONS,
THE BATTLE CALLED THE BATTLE OF THAT
GREAT DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY AND OF
COURSE JESUS AND THOSE WITH HIM
TOTALLY WIN AND KILL THEM ALL
AND FIRE PLAGUE MORE KILL
EVERY OTHER WICKED PERSON
STILL ALIVE ON THE EARTH
AT THAT POINT AND THE DAWN
IS THE FIRST DAWN OF THE
FIRST MORNING OF ONLY
JESUS AND THE RIGHTEOUS
ON THE EARTH FOR 1,000
YEARS STRAIGHT OF PEACE AND
JOY AND THE WONDERFUL COMPANY
OF JUST ONE ANOTHER,
WHILE ALL THE WICKED
ARE THEN ON THE OTHER
SIDE IN OUTER DARKNESS
WHERE THEY SHALL BE WEEPING
AND GNASHING THEIR TEETH IN
MENTAL TORMENT / BURNING
CONSCIENCE / FIRE DURING
THOSE SAME 1,000 YEARS STRAIGHT.

AMEN !!!!





mr.j.a...@gmail.com

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# Folks! We must demand that DDF `SIGN` each post. `She` has made thousands of posts claiming to be many people in the Bible and `she` has made many posts insisting that `she` never made those posts!?

If we can convince `her` to sign each post her psychiatrist can track down that personality and stop it from posting which would save her from enduring this confusing and frustrating situation.

So, when you see one of her posts just asl `her` who made it?

Therefore...I now ask, who made that post above????

Check One:


DDF

THE APOSTLE JOHN

THE ANGEL THAT WRESTLED WITH JACOB

THE LEAD OF THE TWO WITNESSES

JESUS` FAVORITE

THE CHRIST OF MANY WORLDS

OTHER

Miloch

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In article <eeab8093-b4f2-466a...@googlegroups.com>,
mr.j.a...@gmail.com says...
>
>On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 7:44:15 AM UTC-2, Debra Dee McQueen Freem=
>an wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 1:40:40 AM UTC-5, johann...@gmail.com w=
>rote:
>> > On Saturday, January 26, 2013 at 2:50:25 AM UTC+8, manum...@gmail.com w=
>rote:
>> > > On Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:13:54 AM UTC-5, martus wrote:
>
># Folks! We must demand that DDF `SIGN` each post. `She` has made thousands=
> of posts claiming to be many people in the Bible and `she` has made many p=
>osts insisting that `she` never made those posts!?
>
>If we can convince `her` to sign each post her psychiatrist can track down =
>that personality and stop it from posting which would save her from endurin=
>g this confusing and frustrating situation. =20
>

Heh...Debs...Chicago...apartment dweller...lonely...snowed in...cabin
fever...what's more to say?...oh ya...SATAN!!!





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mr.j.a...@gmail.com

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Heh...Debs...Chicago...apartment dweller...lonely...snowed in...cabin
fever...what's more to say?...oh ya...SATAN!!!


# She thanked him so, maybe she also has a spare room for him. Who knows?

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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Is that dumb thug criminal cultist Armstrongite from New Jersey who told
Ike that he was going to cut Ike's nut sack off and then make Ike eat it
still blathering ??

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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I feel so flattered you took time away from
your porn addiction and pitiful weeny whacking
to focus your attention in my direction !!

Does not seem to be doing 70 + year old you
much good that you live in a house and yet
have to get off on porn and take 4 mile
walks each day so your fake hip does not
tighten up and cause you a great deal of
pain because you won't stop eating junk food.

But...ya...keep thinking you are somebody special
and better than because unlike Jesus you have a
house and don't ever sleep on the ground outside.

See where else those delusions will get ya !!



Terry Urich

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