False Charges against Arnold Murray and the Sheperd's Chapel
Chapel Student
by so-called Christians against someone whose only "crime" is teaching the
Word of Gid instead of false doctrines and church tradition. Below there are
itemized some of the charges and given the truth in rebuttal. I cannot claim
credit for writing this but i do have the author's permission to post it and
modify it a tad to make my point.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray has a bad attitude and thunders and insults those who
write him.
RESPONSE: There is no bad attitude, he does not "thunder" against those who
write him. Murray is honest, and sometimes honesty means brutal honesty. If
a doctrine is false or not in the Bible then it is NOT insulting to point
that out.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray rails against other people in front of an American
flag and promotes hatred toward other races.
RESPONSE: The attempt to paint Pastor Murray as some sort of skinhead who
rails against other races is one of the most incorrect and biased points of
your article. The flag is one of TWO flags ON POLES that sit at the front of
his church. When teaching from the desk, the desk is placed at the front of
the church. I think you will find that many churches have a US and church
flag at the front of their auditoriums. Does that make them bigots or do you
accuse them of railing against others? Second he does not advocate, endorse
or promote discrimination, violence or hatred toward ANYONE. In fact, he
quotes that the races, after being created on the sixth day and that they
are GOOD and that God loves them and so does he. Murray is NOT a racist.
Anyone who makes that claim is obviuosly ignorant of the people of all races
who study with him. They obviously didn't see any of the members of all
races at Passover. They also cannot explain why any church that teaches as
Murray does is 40-60% NON-white.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray teaches a cultic doctrine that puts your soul in
peril.
RESPONSE: Teaching people to stay in the Word of God is cultic and lethal to
one’s soul? Where do they come up with that idea?
CHARGE: Pastor Murray rants against other teachers and says that they don’t
know their Bible.
RESPONSE: Guess what, a lot of them DON’T. Just look at how many preachers
teach the rapture, a doctrine that is not taught or even implied in the
Scriptures.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray doesn’t know his Bible.
RESPONSE: Of all the pastors I have encountered, both in person and in the
media, I have found no one who has a better grasp of the Bible, including
both the English and the original languages and manuscripts, than Pastor
Murray.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray believes that mankind were once gods.
RESPONSE: FALSE. The teaching is that we existed during the first world age
as the CREATED CHILDREN of God, just as we are now. The only difference is
that we exist in flesh bodies now (in a period of testing) as opposed to
spiritual bodies that we had in the First and will have in the third.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray teaches divisive doctrine. Meaning that he teaches
that the Anglo-Saxons are descended from the lost tribes of Israel.
RESPONSE: How is that divisive? Quite the contrary our common ancestry
should promote brotherhood with the people of Judah. The lost tribes simply
did not disappear. So it is highly likely that they did migrate north and
the Europeans are (at least in part) descended from those lost tribes.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray denies Hell.
REPONSE: Again, a false assertion. It is true and Biblical that there is no
Hell right now. All souls are in paradise (on one side of the gulf or the
other, remember the parable) awaiting judgement. At the time of judgement,
Satan and those who follow him will be cast into the lake of fire where they
will perish.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray teaches that the rapture doctrine is false and cultic.
RESPONSE: HOORAY FOR PASTOR MURRAY! I wish more Christians would stand up
and denounce this demonic deception. The Rapture is probably the biggest
satanic lie being spread throughout the Christian in recent history. Christ
makes it clear in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 (and numerous other places) the
events that would lead up to His Second Coming. The anti-Christ will come
first and those who are falling for the rapture lie are going to flock to
Satan when he comes and claims to be the messiah.
CHARGE: Pastor Murray claims to be an exclusive messenger for the end times.
RESPONSE: FALSE. If you listen to what he is saying he says to trust NO man,
not even him but ONLY the Word of God. He does not even claim credit when
someone writes him thanking him for his teachings, instead telling them the
truth that the Word teaches. Strange behavior for someone who fancies
themselves as "an exclusive end-times messenger"
CHARGE: The core of Pastor Murray’s teaching is the "serpent seed" doctrine
and is there fore a mouthpiece for neo-nazi groups and white supremacists.
RESPONSE: First I think it’s very unchristian to try to connect Pastor
Murray with these groups with he is not involved with and has on numerous
occastions condemned. Second, if you want to know what the core of pastor
Murray’s teachings are, I’ll tell you: "STAY IN THE WORD OF GOD rather than
the traditions of men"! And that’s that.
I wonder if the objections to pastor Murray are not that he teaches false
doctrine, but rather that he without apology teaches the TRUTH. Maybe the
truth hits too close to home, threatening a lot of man-made traditions and
teachings that are contrary to God’s Word. Most people don’t want to hear
the truth. Truth has never been popular or politically correct.
I have listened to Pastor Murray for a long time, and have also listened to
many of his taped messages. So please don’t claim that I have not heard what
Pastor Murray has to say.
David L Gulley
He has a very distorted view of the escatological process. Murray is a
"Replacement Theology" advocate that will not accept the present day
existance of Israel in the "Holy Land" as the fulfillment of Ezekiel's "Dry
Bones."
Unfortunately, Murray has a rather large following of disconnected disciples
that are prone to check their brain at the chapel doors. He is just a short
throw from a cult.
Please pray for those that are being deceived by this man. He is a genuine
danger to the eternal soul of many thousands of people.
The Truth is in here.
Dave
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Chapel Student
Mr.G wrote in message <37CC0950...@vol.com>...
>Sorry but read this:
> Searching: I THESSALONIANS For: Air
>1THESSA 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up
together
>with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever
be
>with the Lord.
for the zillionth time. THIS-VERSE-DOES-NOT-TEACH-RAPTURE!!!!!!!!!!!
This is refering to our gathering back to Christ when HE COMES HERE at Hi
second coming.
There is NO flying away, and it says NO ONE WORD anout anyone going
anywhere.
Chapel Student
David L Gulley wrote in message ...
>Arnold Murray is a FALSE TEACHER.
>Please pray for those that are being deceived by this man. He is a
>genuine
>danger to the eternal soul of many thousands of people.
You better pray for yourself as you are in violation of this commandment of
God.
Ex 20:16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
>The Truth is in here.
And Arnold Murray is one of the very few people teaching it.
mighty1
David L Gulley <hchd...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:sDYy3.291$Zd.177189@WReNphoon3...
> Arnold Murray is a FALSE TEACHER.
>
> He has a very distorted view of the escatological process. Murray is a
> "Replacement Theology" advocate that will not accept the present day
> existance of Israel in the "Holy Land" as the fulfillment of Ezekiel's
"Dry
> Bones."
>
> Unfortunately, Murray has a rather large following of disconnected
disciples
> that are prone to check their brain at the chapel doors. He is just a
short
> throw from a cult.
>
> Please pray for those that are being deceived by this man. He is a
genuine
> danger to the eternal soul of many thousands of people.
>
> The Truth is in here.
John Abrams
hchd...@juno.com (David L Gulley) Re: Charges against Arnold
Murray- We are fallen Angels?
He has a very distorted view of the escatological process. Murray is a
"Replacement Theology" advocate that will not accept the present day
existance of Israel in the "Holy Land" as the fulfillment of Ezekiel's
"Dry Bones."
Unfortunately, Murray has a rather large following of disconnected
disciples that are prone to check their brain at the chapel doors. He is
just a short throw from a cult.
Please pray for those that are being deceived by this man. He is a
genuine danger to the eternal soul of many thousands of people.
The Truth is in here.
Dave
RE: will not accept the present day existance of Israel in the "Holy
Land" as the fulfillment of Ezekiel's "Dry Bones." ---- Ever hear of
the resurrection?
Chapel Student
mighty1 wrote in message <222z3.450$%h7....@newsfeed.slurp.net>...
>Not that I really care, but who the hell is Arnold Murray?
Pastor of the Sheperd's Chapel in Gravette Arkansas. Has both a satellite
ministry as well as being on many local TV stations.
The ONLY pastor I have ever found on TV that teaches the Bible as written
instead of the man-made church tradions.
I've learned a lot from studying the Bible, but compared to Arnold Murray I
know nothing. I only wish that I knew the Bible half as much as he does
He has been the constant victim of lying and slander.
Eric Peterson
Greetings
Arnold Murray teaches dispensationalism.
I don't know if it will help or not, but here goes.
If you stay with him you will have a tough battle on you hands.
"History' of dispensationalism".
Chances are you are not going to find this on dispensational pages,
since they are going to claim antiquity as the origin of dispensationalism.
Instead, look for some sources critical of dispensationalism, and there is where you will
probably find people willing to mention when dispensational or covenant
theology started. Since the preterists consider history relevant, you may
want to look at www.preterist.com or www.preteristarchive.com. I know these
pages to have critical pages on dispensationalism, as well as
www.eschatology.com possibly.
Hope that helps.
http.ca...@gmail.com
Miloch
http.ca...@gmail.com says...
>
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAgBtdLjB7d4
>=F0=9F=8E=A5 Arnold Murray false teacher - YouTube
He seems like a kindly old man...bat-shit crazy for sure...but still...a kindly
old man.
...just my two cents worth.
go Warriors!
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