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John Manning

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:50:06 PM11/7/09
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"Nobody is sitting in Iran today developing nuclear weapons.
Tehran doesn�t have an ongoing nuclear weapons program. But
somehow, everyone in the West is talking about how Iran�s
nuclear program is the greatest threat to the world. In many
ways, I think the threat has been hyped.

Yes, there�s concern and Iran needs to be more transparent
with the IAEA. We still have outstanding questions about some
of the research they�ve conducted, and we still need to verify
that there aren�t undeclared activities taking place inside of
the country.

But the idea that we�ll wake up tomorrow and Iran will have a
nuclear weapon is crazy. We just haven�t seen any indication
of that.�

~Mohammed El Baradei, the current IAEA head
http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2009/09/hyperventilating-about-the-iran-nuclear-threat.html


John Manning

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:01:02 AM11/8/09
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�R.L.Measures wrote:
> In article <1r2i9p1zk2uc0.dnpjzccj8xad$.d...@40tude.net>,
> Honest...@Wisdom.net wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:47:51 -0200, John Manning wrote:
>>
>>> �ER.L.Measures wrote:
>>>> In article <gfx0caxrbbkp$.13xftf1a...@40tude.net>,
>>>> Honest...@Wisdom.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you had followed the links in the article John Manning the fool
> posted
>>>>> but never read he would have found the US claims are confirmed by

> Mohammed
>>>>> El Baradei, the current IAEA head
>>>> �E there are people in this world who are virtually blindeded by their
>>>> anii-Semitism.
>>>
>>> Fuck you, Rich.
>> Wake up John Manning monkey, evolution has left you behind.
>
> � and so much hate he no longer sees straight.


It's hard for me to believe what you just said, Rich.

My position has always been for equal rights and justice for ALL human
beings under the international laws the USA has stood for and signed onto:

Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.

Our famous words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness," did not declare that some men
(and women) are without unalienable rights.

Likewise, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, created by the
United Nations in 1948 and signed and ratified by the U.S. Congress,
specifies in its preamble that "recognition of the inherent dignity and
of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family
is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world."


-You're the homophobic bigot who doesn't think gays should have equal
legal marriage rights [including the title of 'marriage' itself] with
heteros.

You're also the anti-Islamic bigot xenophobe who simply cannot recognize
that Israel has for decades unjustly abused and oppressed the
Palestinian people as a whole - including issuing them different legal
rights in the Israeli courts.

I used to have respect for you, but you have shown yourself to be
nothing more than an ideological xenophobe and homophobic bigot.

John Manning

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:52:54 PM11/8/09
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�R.L.Measures wrote:
> In article <h9ednYhRFb6RdWvX...@giganews.com>, John Manning

> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
>> �R.L.Measures wrote:
>>> In article <1r2i9p1zk2uc0.dnpjzccj8xad$.d...@40tude.net>,
>>> Honest...@Wisdom.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:47:51 -0200, John Manning wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> �ER.L.Measures wrote:
>>>>>> In article <gfx0caxrbbkp$.13xftf1a...@40tude.net>,
>>>>>> Honest...@Wisdom.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you had followed the links in the article John Manning the fool
>>> posted
>>>>>>> but never read he would have found the US claims are confirmed by
>>> Mohammed
>>>>>>> El Baradei, the current IAEA head
>>>>>> �E there are people in this world who are virtually blindeded by their
>>>>>> anii-Semitism.
>>>>> Fuck you, Rich.
>>>> Wake up John Manning monkey, evolution has left you behind.
>>> � and so much hate he no longer sees straight.
>>>
>>
>> It's hard for me to believe what you just said, Rich.
>
> � you can take it to the bank John.

>> My position has always been for equal rights and justice for ALL human
>> beings under the international laws the USA has stood for and signed onto:
>>
>> Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
>> for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
>> worldwide.
>>
>> Our famous words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
>> all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
>> with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
>> and the pursuit of Happiness," did not declare that some men
>> (and women) are without unalienable rights.
>>
>> Likewise, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, created by the
>> United Nations in 1948 and signed and ratified by the U.S. Congress,
>> specifies in its preamble that "recognition of the inherent dignity and
>> of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family
>> is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world."
>>
>>
>> -You're the homophobic bigot who doesn't think gays should have equal
>> legal marriage rights [including the title of 'marriage' itself] with
>> heteros.
>
> � correct. I don't think a 700-yr old definition should be changed to
> accomodate what is essentially a special interest group with unusually
> sensitive feelings.
>> You're also the anti-Islamic bigot xenophobe who simply cannot recognize
>> that Israel has for decades unjustly abused and oppressed the
>> Palestinian people as a whole - including issuing them different legal
>> rights in the Israeli courts.
>>
>> I used to have respect for you, but you have shown yourself to be
>> nothing more than an ideological xenophobe and homophobic bigot.
>
> � shades of Duwayne?
>


Nope. I see shades of ideological xenophobia and homophobic bigotry.


> cheers
>

Joe Bruno

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:33:15 AM11/9/09
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On Nov 7, 10:50 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> "Nobody is sitting in Iran today developing nuclear weapons.
> Tehran doesn’t have an ongoing nuclear weapons program. But
> somehow, everyone in the West is talking about how Iran’s

> nuclear program is the greatest threat to the world. In many
> ways, I think the threat has been hyped.
>
> Yes, there’s concern and Iran needs to be more transparent

> with the IAEA. We still have outstanding questions about some
> of the research they’ve conducted, and we still need to verify
> that there aren’t undeclared activities taking place inside of
> the country.
>
> But the idea that we’ll wake up tomorrow and Iran will have a
> nuclear weapon is crazy. We just haven’t seen any indication
> of that.”
>
> ~Mohammed El Baradei, the current IAEA headhttp://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2009/09/hyperventilating-about-the-ir...

This has nothing to do with Judaism and is therefore off-topic.
Your IP will be informed.

John Manning

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:03:09 AM11/9/09
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Joe Bruno wrote:
> On Nov 7, 10:50 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>> "Nobody is sitting in Iran today developing nuclear weapons.
>> Tehran doesn�t have an ongoing nuclear weapons program. But
>> somehow, everyone in the West is talking about how Iran�s

>> nuclear program is the greatest threat to the world. In many
>> ways, I think the threat has been hyped.
>>
>> Yes, there�s concern and Iran needs to be more transparent

>> with the IAEA. We still have outstanding questions about some
>> of the research they�ve conducted, and we still need to verify
>> that there aren�t undeclared activities taking place inside of
>> the country.
>>
>> But the idea that we�ll wake up tomorrow and Iran will have a
>> nuclear weapon is crazy. We just haven�t seen any indication
>> of that.�

>>
>> ~Mohammed El Baradei, the current IAEA headhttp://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2009/09/hyperventilating-about-the-ir...
>
> This has nothing to do with Judaism and is therefore off-topic.
> Your IP will be informed.


Like I said, they'll laugh at you.

You don't have a clue how usenet works. For someone who claims to know
law, you're dumber than a sack of dog shit.

John Manning

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:13:15 AM11/9/09
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�R.L.Measures wrote:
> In article <f--dnT53ULMVmWXX...@giganews.com>, John Manning

> <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
>
>> �R.L.Measures wrote:
>>> In article <w8mdnee2HrBb1mrX...@giganews.com>, John Manning
>>> � Gay couples have the right to form unions called domestic
>>> partnerships. Straight couples have the same rights -- but the name of
>>> the union is different.
>>>
>>
>> Generation after generation, people have fought to get rid of the
>> "....except for"s: except for blacks, except for women, etc.
>>
> � the difference is that marriages typically produce human beings.
>
>> Today, we challenge the latest prejudice to raise its ugly head and seek
>> to repudiate the fundamental American dedication to freedom and equality
>> for all. The idea that there should be God-given life, liberty and the
>> pursuit of happiness "except for gays" is unworthy of our national
>> character.
>>
>> If someone thinks homosexuality is immoral, they have a right to believe
>> that. But they do not have the right to change our fundamental freedoms.
>
> � I do not think homosexuality is immoral, but I do think the 700-yr olf
> definition of the word 'marriage' should not be changed by a tiny special
> interest group.
>> For many, many people, getting married is one of the most important
>> things they will ever do in the pursuit of happiness.
>
> � This is clearly a delusion. I've been married for 34-yrs and I can
> assure you that it has been a hellish trip through a minefield.
>
>> And there is
>> nothing, absolutely nothing, in the Constitution of the United States
>> that suggests any group of people has the right to limit another, no
>> matter how many referendums or propositions they put onto a ballot.
>
> � There is nothing in the Constitution that says that a special interest
> group has any right to change the definition of a word.
>> The U.S. Constitution reigns supreme.
>>
>> [re: Marianne Williamson - Sexual Orientation and the Pursuit of Happiness]

>>
>> Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
>> for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
>> worldwide.
>>
>> =
>>
>> You're from a dying off bunch of xenophobic and homophobic bigots,
>> Measures - plain and simple.
>
> � Listening to two anti-Semites on this Newsgroup rant about bigotry is a
> laugher.


For you to suggest that either Duwayne or myself are anti-Semitic is a
clear indication of your willful blindness to the facts we have both
presented.

Like Mormons [or any other entrenched ideologues] who have been exposed
for their bigotries, hypocrisies and transparent denials, you resort to
making up insults that have no basis in reality.

I can only speak for myself but from what I've seen of Duwayne's
material, he like myself, stands firmly for *EQUAL* rights and *EQUAL*
treatment under international law for *ALL* human beings.

You indeed ARE a bigot.

The fact that you ARE a bigot is plain and obvious in the exclusionary
'except for' positions you have taken against both gays and the
Palestinians. You have excluded each group of human beings from *EQUAL*
rights and *EQUAL* protection under international law.

It's assholes like you who perpetuate divisivenesses and hatred in the
world.

== My statements stand as fact: "You're from a dying off bunch of
xenophobic and homophobic bigots, Measures - plain and simple.

I thought you had a bigger vision than that kind of limited
small-mindedness. You don't. You're a classic bigot."


>> I thought you had a bigger vision than that kind of limited
>> small-mindedness. You don't. You're a classic bigot.
>


Ike E 11/05/09

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:20:40 PM11/9/09
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"John Manning" <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
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[snip]

> The fact that you ARE a bigot is plain and obvious in the exclusionary
> 'except for' positions you have taken against both gays and the
> Palestinians. You have excluded each group of human beings from *EQUAL*
> rights and *EQUAL* protection under international law.
>
> It's assholes like you who perpetuate divisivenesses and hatred in the
> world.

Ah, no, it's assholes like YOU who are going to DESTROY IT.

Homosexuality is a pointless and destructive deviant BEHAVIOR condemned
(along with every other deviant sexual behavior) by God, not a "race" or
"gender;" and God says NO ONE BELONGS IN ISRAEL EXCEPT ISRAEL.

That makes YOU the "asshole" in God's book.

[snip]

Ike

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