John 3 is Jesus talking about a subject that Nicodemus
did not know about yet, though Nicodemus was a teacher
of God's will and ways. So basically Jesus was enjoying
pulling Nicodemus' chain, though also at the same time
instructing him, that human beings had to not only be
born physically via water of the natal sac, but also
be born spiritually via an act of Spirit God at the
resurrection of the righteous dead and quick the day
of Jesus' return IF THEY HOPED TO ENTER INTO, TAKE
PART IN, BE A PART OF, THE KINGDOM OF GOD, such
spiritual birth and new configuration or body
being spoken of in many other scriptures as well
such as that it could come and go as the wind,
would be angel-like, would be glorious (emit light
or be capable of emitting light), would be indestructible
and immune to "the second death" (decreation in the
lake of fire), would exist forever, and is referred
to as being a pure fine clean white linen wedding garment:
He is to put on the sacred linen tunic, with linen undergarments next to
his body; he is to tie the linen sash around him and put on the linen turban.
These are sacred garments; so he must bathe himself with water before he puts
1 CHRONICLES 15
Now David was clothed in a robe of fine linen, as were all the Levites who
were carrying the ark, and as were the musicians, and Kenaniah, who was in
charge of the singing of the choirs. David also wore a linen ephod.
THE Spirit of the LORD is upon me, because the LORD has anointed me and sent
me to preach good tidings to the meek; to bind up the brokenhearted, to
proclaim liberty to captives and release to prisoners; To proclaim the
acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of the salvation of our God;
to comfort all that mourn; To give to the mourners of Zion beauty instead of
ashes, perfume instead of mourning, a cloak of beauty instead of the spirit of
heaviness; they shall be called men of righteousness, the planting of the LORD,
which is glorious...I will greatly rejoice in the LORD and my soul shall be
joyful in my God; for he has clothed me with the garments of salvation, he has
covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decks himself in
splendor and as a bride adorns herself with jewels. For as the earth brings
forth its bud, and as the garden causes the seed which is sown in it to spring
forth, so the LORD God will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth
before all the nations.
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give glory to God: for the time of the
marriage feast of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready.
And it was given to her that she should be arrayed in fine pure linen,
clean and white: for fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he
said to me, Write, Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding feast
of the Lamb...And I saw heaven opened, and behold, I saw a white horse;
and he who sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness
he judges and makes war...And the armies which were in heaven followed him
on white horses, clothed in fine linen, pure and white.
And behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he who watches and keeps his
garments, lest he must walk naked, and they see his shame.
The kingdom of God is like a king who gave a marriage-feast for his son...
When the king entered to see the guests, he saw there a man who was not
wearing a wedding garment. And he said to him, My friend, how did you enter
here, when you do not have a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then
the king said to the servants, Bind his hands and his feet and take him
out into darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
John 3 is not about the repentance and confession and
conversion of the wicked sinner moving from serving Satan
to serving God, walking the one direction, and then turning
and walking the other direction, but there ARE other verses
on that, such as:
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of
your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect,
will of God.
> It is written that only GOD is good (Matthew 19:17) which means the rest of us are all evil.
Being an expert in scripture, and allowing scripture to interpret itself,
I do not agree with what you have said in the immediate sentence above.
First of all, yes Jesus said that when someone called him good,
but he was first of all wanting to be humble, and second of all
I think he meant that only God is TOTALLY OR WHOLLY OR THOROUGHLY OR
PERFECTLY GOOD, because Jesus also said and earlier:
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh
his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and
on the unjust.
In which I think he meant good as in mostly good, or for the most part good,
in other words more so than not, or 51% or more, or nearer to 100 Perfection
than nearer to 0 Total Failure, however you prefer to look at it or call it,
which is the fact of reality, that each of us are either mostly pleasing
God with our desires thoughts words deeds or else mostly pleasing Satan
with our desires thoughts words deeds; not a single one of us is totally
evil or totally good, and only God is totally good.
And there are dozens more scriptures that refer to people being good or
righteous. Your A + B = C equation above is of your own human reasoning
and imagination rather than what scripture tells us.
Here are several more of the verses which refer to some persons as good:
Even so every good tree [soul / person] bringeth forth good fruit;
but a corrupt tree [soul / person] bringeth forth evil fruit.
Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things:
and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
The good seed are the children of God; but the weeds are the children of
So will it be at the end of the world; the angels will go out and separate
the bad from among the good, and they will throw the bad into the furnace
of fire; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as
many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with
His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast
been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things:
enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a
good man, and a just man.
For he [Barnabas] was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith:
and much people was added unto the Lord.
> However, this being written, after being born-again, we can (Philippians 4:13) become new (2 Corinthians 5:17) creatures in Christ,
Yes, become a person who mostly pleases God with one's desires thoughts
words deeds, rather than as formerly having mostly pleased Satan with
one's desires thoughts words deeds, IF one is sincere and fervent and
sticks with the internal and external changes, improvements.
> Who is our #1 example of One Who is wonderfully hungry (Luke 24:42).
Jesus was E X T R E M E L Y upset when there were no figs for him
to eat when he was hungry.
He also had both himself and his men break the Sabbath when they were
all hungry, and pick wheat berries in a wheat field on the Sabbath.
Hunger is not wonderful, it is a curse in the Bible:
Thus says the LORD: In an acceptable time I have answered you,
and in a day of salvation I have helped you...That you may say
to the prisoners, Go forth; to those who are shut up, Show yourselves,
come out. They shall feed in the paths and their pastures shall be in
all highways. They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the sultry
heat nor the sun smite them; for he who is merciful to them shall lead them,
and by the springs of water shall he bring them...Sing, O heavens, and be
joyful, O earth, and break forth into singing, O mountains; for the LORD
has comforted his people and will have mercy upon his afflicted...and all
men shall know that I the LORD am your Saviour and your Helper, the
Mighty One of Jacob.
And one of the elders answered and said to me, Who are these who are arrayed
in white robes? And from whence did they come? And I said to him, My Lord,
you know. And he said to me, These are those who came out of great
tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood
of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve him day
and night in his temple; and he who sits on the throne shall shelter them.
They shall hunger no more; neither thirst anymore; neither shall they be
stricken by the sun, nor by the heat. For the Lamb who is in the midst
of the throne shall shepherd them, and shall lead them to fountains of
living water. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
REVELATION 21 / 22
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first
earth had passed away; and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem, coming down from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice from heaven saying, Behold, the
tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall
be his people, and the very God shall be with them, and be their God; And
he shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more
death [including by hunger / malnutrition / starvation], neither sorrow nor
wailing, neither shall there be any more [physical] pain [due to hunger or
thirst and other reasons] for the former things have passed away. And he
who sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. Then he said
to me, Write: for these are the trustworthy and true words of God. And he
said to me, I am Aleph and Tau, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.
I will freely give of the fountain of living water to him who is thirsty.
He who overcomes shall inherit these things; and I will be his God, and he
shall be my son.../...And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear
as crystal, gushing out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst
of the great street of the city, and on either side of the river, was the
tree of life, which bore twelve kind of fruits [food], and each month it
yielded one of its fruits; and the leaves [food] of the trees were for the
healing of the people. And that which drops shall be no more: but the throne
of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
And they shall see his face; and his name shall be on their foreheads.
And there shall be no night there; and they shall neither need a candle,
nor the light of the sun; for the LORD God shines on them: and they shall
reign for ever and ever...Blessed are those who do God's commandments, that
they may have the right to the tree of life [to eat its fruit and leaves],
and may enter in through the gates into the city...And the Spirit and the
bride say Come. And let him who hears, say Come. And he who is thirsty, let
him come. And whosoever will, let him take of the living water freely.
> And, thus, though not good (Matthew 19:17),
To say that you are not good, is to say that you are mostly serving
and pleasing Satan by your desires thoughts words deeds.
Having a heart of perfect love since I was born, I suffered at night
in bed when I would lie there and think about different things including
the children in the world who were suffering the physical and psychological
pains of hunger and thirst (like most parents, my parents told me to not
waste food because there were children who were starving, and I believed
this, and indeed such has always been the case in this world), I even
determined that I could never be happy as long as there was even just
one child in the world who was hungry and or thirsty.
For all your talk of caring with your heart, you apparently are totally
spoiled in the wealth of your doctor salary and perhaps privileged
upbringing and perhaps have never known being hungry or thirsty
not by choice and what a terrible thing these things are and what
an atrocity it is that there are those in this world even now who
have millions times more money and things and food and drink than
what they need but there are alternately children who are hungry and
thirsty and in pain and malnourished and starving to death and the
religions and churches whose job it is to provide for the poor with
the tithe they receive are constantly begging and asking for money
and raking the dough in and are filthy rich and are doing little or
nothing about it which is the sole reason why it exists. In India,
in the lowest caste system, the rock quarryers eat crushed rocks to
quell their painful hunger.
AS LONG AS THERE ARE HUNGRY AND THIRSTY CHILDREN IN THIS WORLD,
I HARDLY THINK IT KIND OR LOVING OF YOU TO NOT ONLY SAY THAT
HUNGER IS WONDERFUL, BUT EVEN WORSE TO KEEP SAYING IT, AND EVEN
WORSE THAN THAT TO SAY IT THOUSANDS OF TIMES EVERY DAY ON USENET,
AND EVEN WORSE THAN THAT TO SAY IT HUNDREDS OF TIMES EVERY DAY ON
AN INDIVIDUAL USENET GROUP, AND EVEN WORSE THAN THAT TO KEEP DOING
THIS EVERY DAY !!!!!!!!!! DID I NOT TELL YOU 2 1/2 YEARS AGO TO
CONCISE YOUR WORK TO ONE OR TWO THREADS AND ONLY KEEP THOSE ONE OR
TWO THREADS CURRENT BECAUSE ALL YOUR THREADS SAY THE SAME THING ??????????
YES, I DID.
AND NOT ONLY ALL THIS, BUT EXPERIENCING HUNGER IS NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE
A MODERATE FIGURE NOR GOOD HEALTH. A PERSON WITH AVERAGE HEIGHTS AND
MODERATE METABOLISM CAN EAT MODERATELY FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX MEALS A DAY
TOTALLING THREE OR FOUR POUNDS OF FOOD A DAY AND KEEP A MODERATELY ACTIVE
LIFESTYLE AND NEVER EXPERIENCE HUNGER AND HAVE A MODERATE FIGURE AND GOOD
HEALTH IF THE MEALS ARE HEALTHY (WHICH INCLUDES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LOWER-
CARB RAW AND STEAMED VEGIES AND LOWER-CARB FRUITS AND LITTLE OR NO SUGARS
AND STARCHES) AND THEY MAINTAIN OTHER GOOD HEALTH PRACTICES IN ADDITION AND
IT IS NOT THEIR KARMA TO BE SICK (THE NATURAL DIET IS PREDOMINANT IN LEAN
FLESH AND ORGAN MEATS AND LOWER-CARB VEGIES AND LOWER-CARB FRUITS, AS FOUND
IN NATURE AS GOD CREATED IT BEFORE MAN INTERVENED IN IT AND AS PROVEN BY THE WORLD-WIDE STUDY UNDERTAKEN MANY YEARS AGO BY WESTON A. PRICE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_Price
: A BALANCED WHOLE FOOD DIET).
YOUR OBSESSION WITH EXPERIENCING HUNGER AND EATING ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT
OF FOOD EACH DAY IN ORDER TO CAUSE HUNGER IS A SPIRITUAL / MENTAL /
EMOTIONAL SICKNESS ON YOUR PART, AND A MOST UNUSUAL AND BIZARRE ONE
AT THAT, AND NOT ONE AT ALL THAT IS IN LINE WITH SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS
TO KEEP YOUR MIND ON THINGS ABOVE.
ONE CANNOT GET MORE CARNAL AND MUNDANE THAN THINKING ABOUT FOOD AND
EATING FOOD. AND TO O B S E S S ABOUT IT SHOWS THAT THE PERSON
IS OFF. AND JESUS CLEARLY STATED THAT IT IS THE EVIL WICKED CARNAL
WORLDLY WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, MEANING OBSESSED ABOUT OR OVERLY
INTERESTED IN, SUCH THINGS (FOOD AND EATING).
SO MANY PEOPLE AND FOR A LONG TIME HAVE ALREADY SAID ONE OR MORE OF
THESE THINGS TO YOU, BUT YOU CONTINUE ON THE SAME.
Y O U A R E I N T H E W R O N G .
A N D G O D ' S W O R D W O N ' T C H A N G E ,
N O R R E A L I T Y T R U T H S F A C T S ,
S O M Y O P I N I O N S W I L L N O T C H A N G E .
BEST TO LOOK FOR SUPPORT SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT FROM ME.
> and hope you, Debra, also have a healthy appetite too.
> So how are you ?
POWERFUL IN THE LORD !!!!
WITH A HUNGER AND THIRST FOR THE LORD GOD AND HIS WORD LIKE NEVER BEFORE !!!!
ALL GLORY TO THE LORD GOD AND HIS PRECIOUS WORD AND ITS PROMISES !!!!
> ... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
THEN HAVE MERCY ON THE (MILLIONS?) OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
WHO EXPERIENCE PHYSICALLY AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY PAINFUL
HUNGER AND THIRST NOT BY CHOICE AND WITH NO SURE OR
SWIFT ALLEVIATION IN SIGHT OR KNOWLEDGE AND STOP SAYING
THAT HUNGER IS WONDERFUL, AND STOP ASKING PEOPLE,
EVEN TRYING TO FORCE PEOPLE, TO SAY TO YOU THAT THEY
ARE WONDERFULLY HUNGRY, WHICH IS A SIN TO CALL THAT
WHICH IS EVIL AND GOING TO BE DONE AWAY WITH GOOD.
THE LITTLE FISH IS CUTE,
BUT JESUS DID NOT WEIGH
HIS FOOD BEFORE HE ATE IT,
NOR DID HE LIMIT HIMSELF
TO ONLY EATING A CERTAIN
WEIGHT OF FOOD PER DAY,
AND YOU DO GOD AND JESUS
AND GOD'S WORD A MAJOR
INJUSTICE TO SAY THAT
FANATICAL EXTREME DIET
IDEA AND OBSESSION WITH
FOOD AND EATING AND HUNGER
IS THE WILL OF GOD AND
JESUS AND GOD'S WORD.
DO YOU EVEN KNOW THAT THE
EARLY CHURCH LEADERS DISDAINED
HAVING TO THINK ABOUT FOOD OR
PREPARING IT AND ESTABLISHED
THAT OTHERS WOULD TAKE ON THAT
MUNDANE CHORE SO THAT THEY
THE LEADERS COULD DEVOTE
MORE TIME TO GOD'S WORD
AND SPIRITUAL MATTERS ????
The twelve apostles called the whole multitude of the
converts and said to them, It is not good that we should
leave the word of God and serve food. Wherefore, brethren,
examine and select from among you seven men of good repute
who are full of the Spirit of the LORD and of wisdom,
so that we may appoint them to this task. And we will
give ourselves continually to prayer and to the ministry
of the word. This suggestion pleased the whole people.
YOU ARE ALSO WRONG about the only healthy cure for
the healthcare crisis: It is not having every 3' short
little person midgette and every 7' tall giant male
and every one of every height in between and of every
metabolism and activity level eat exactly two pounds of
food per day and every single day and by weighing
every morsel before eating it AND thinking that one
has commit a sinful gluttony worthy of eternal death
if they even once eat one crumb over that amount !!!!!!!!!!
IT IS BY THE GOVERNMENT PUTTING A CAP ON WHAT
FEES CAN BE CHARGED BY DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS,
JUST AS IT HAS PUT A CAP ON WHAT LAWYERS CAN
TAKE (33% LAST I KNEW), AND A CAP ON WHAT
CREDIT CARD COMPANIES CAN TAKE (NOT SURE
WHAT THAT IS THESE DAYS).
AND THE ONLY REASON THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT
DONE THIS YET AS IT SHOULD HAVE IS BECAUSE
IT IS CROOKED AND CATERING TO THE DOCTORS
AND HOSPITAL OWNERS WHO ARE BY AND LARGE A
BUNCH OF EXTREMELY GREEDY NEVER SATISFIED
UNGODLY BASTARDS WHOSE METHODS AND MEANS
OFTEN CAUSE MORE HARM THAN GOOD AND OR
ONLY COVER SYMPTOMS AND OR ARE IN ERROR
AND THEY COULD CARE LESS AS LONG AS
THEY KEEP RAKING IN THE DOUGH AND
KICK-BACKS AND OTHER PERKS AND
TO PUT IT ANOTHER WAY,
THE ONLY BELT TIGHTENING
NEEDED IS FOR DOCTORS AND
HOSPITALS TO REIN IN THEIR
GREED VOLUNTARILY OR FOR
THE GOVERNMENT TO FORCE
IT ON THEM.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO
SOMETHING WORTHWHILE WITH
YOUR TIME FOR GOD, THAT IS
WHAT YOU SHOULD START WORKING
ON INSTEAD (THERE ARE ALREADY
PLENTY OF PEOPLE PREACHING
HEALTHY DIET; AND THE PUBLIC
ALREADY KNOWS TO EAT HEALTHY):
A MONETARY BELT-TIGHTENING
FOR DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS.
ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL,
THEN YOU WILL BE A
SUPERHERO LOVED BY
STICK WITH YOUR CURRENT PATH,
AND YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE A
WHACK JOKE HATED BY