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martus

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Feb 19, 2012, 8:23:48 AM2/19/12
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Jesus was crucified around Friday, April 3, AD 33.

Matthew 17:23
They will kill him, and on the third day he will be raised to life.”
And the disciples were filled with grief.

Note it is on the third day Jesus came back to life and again in the
old testament in Hosea it was also predicted but with an insight into
when Jesus will return.

Hosea 6:2
New Century Version (NCV)
2 In two days he will put new life in us;
on the third day he will raise us up
so that we may live in his presence


What is this new life that was given but the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:1-3
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost
1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one
place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from
heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw
what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on
each of them.

This new life, the Holy Spirit has been with us for longer then 2
days, almost 2000 years. Each day that Jesus was away is represented
by 1000 years and we have that also mentioned in the bible that a day
to God is equivalent to 1000 years.

Psalm 90:4
To you, a thousand years is like the passing of a day, or like a few
hours in the night.

and again

2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: To the Lord one day is
as a thousand years, and a thousand years is as one day.

So the work of the Holy Spirit is to last 2000 years i.e. around 2033
A.D and then we will be with Christ for the third day which is
equivalent to 1000 years.

Revelation 20:4
Then I saw some thrones and people sitting on them who had been given
the power to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been killed
because they were faithful to the message of Jesus and the message
from God. They had not worshiped the beast or his idol, and they had
not received the mark of the beast on their foreheads or on their
hands. They came back to life and ruled with Christ for a thousand
years.

Daniel gives a time frame when God's people will be raptured:


Daniel 9:24-26
New International Version (NIV)

24 “Seventy ‘sevens’[a] are decreed for your people and your holy
city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for
wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision
and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place

The time frame used is seven years or week of years and is broken up
into seven sevens (Jerusalem rebuilt), sixty two sevens (Jesus
crucified) and the final seven the tribulation period.

What I wish to draw your attention to is this 7 year time frame and
what are they using to mark it. Only recently the Apophis asteroid has
been rediscovered and it comes within a near earth orbit every 7
years. It was peridicated that there was a chance of it coming close
to the earth in 2029 and hitting the earth in 2036.

There are numerous mentions of a stone, rock, mountain of fire hitting
the earth and in all probability it is Apophis crashing into the
earth. When Jesus was crucified it was probably Apophis that caused
the sun to go dark and the earth to shake as mentioned in the bible.
Note also Apophis swings around every 7 years at Easter time, it
passes over around Passover.

Jesus was crucified around 2033 then Apophis will need to hit the
earth before then which is why I say that Apophis will hit around
Easter 2029.

There are still about 3 and 1/2 years before the 2000 years of the
Holy Spirit is done and Jesus returns.

Once Apophis hits the earth God's people that are ready to go are
Rapture and the rest of mankind will more then likely die.

Isaiah 24:6
So a curse will destroy the earth. The people of the world are guilty,
so they will be burned up; only a few will be left.

The below verse shows the woman (body of believers) raptured out of
danger for the remaining 3 and 1/2 years and also the the beast being
in charge for that length of time until Jesus returns.

Revelation 12:6
The woman ran away into the desert to a place God prepared for her
where she would be taken care of for one thousand two hundred sixty
days.

Revelation 13:5
The beast was allowed to say proud words and words against God, and it
was allowed to use its power for forty-two months.

Those that remain (God's people and the godless) will suffer 10 years
of tribulation as opposed to those that were rapture with only the 7
years, the last orbit of Apophis from 2022 to 2029 A.D.

Revelation 2:10
Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the
devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer
for ten days. But be faithful, even if you have to die, and I will
give you the crown of life.

A man's prophetic day is equivalent to 1 years as opposed to Jesus the
Word of God's one day=one thousand years. That is ten days of
tribulation which is 10 years.

Ezekiel 4:6
"After you have finished these three hundred ninety days, lie down a
second time, on your right side. You will then have the guilt of Judah
on you. I will give it to you for forty days, a day for each year of
their sin.







robni...@gmail.com

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May 4, 2017, 8:31:25 AM5/4/17
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Regarding Matthew 24:36 – “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

It’s important not to build a theology on a couple of verses but instead put everything into context, letting the Bible interpret the Bible:

Isaiah 28:13 – line upon line, precept upon precept

Therefore the following verses must also be considered:

1 Thessalonians 5:4 – “You’re not in darkness for that day to surprise you like a thief.”

And:

Amos 3:7 – Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.

And:

Deuteronomy 16:16 – Three times a year all your men must appear before the LORD your God at the place he will choose:

Passover : Fulfilled by Jesus

Pentecost : Fulfilled by Jesus

Tabernacles : To be Fulfilled…

Jesus actually fulfilled 11 out of 12 Jewish holy-days as my book reveals and is beyond coincidence. Therefore He must return on the one He has yet to fulfill, this is the feast of Tabernacles that celebrates the harvest. Many know it as Harvest festival and it alludes to the great harvest of souls at the end of age. I hope and pray you can see and believe this, and will not be like the Jews who missed His first coming by not recognising all these signs. When Jesus said ‘no one knows the day’ He said it in the present tense, He did not say no one would ever know (Amos 3:7) and Jesus also alluded to the fact that He would fulfill Tabernacles at a later time:

John 7:2 & 8 – But when the Jewish Festival of Tabernacles was near, [Jesus said] “You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come.”

My book goes into more detail providing many scriptural proofs for this and why Jesus will return on Tabernacles, and that this will happen on the 24th September 2029.

But why 2029?:

https://guidetothebible.wordpress.com/but-no-one-knows-the-day/

J. Abrams

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May 4, 2017, 11:35:09 AM5/4/17
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I wouldn't be surprised if both of you have read one or more of my books. Most of the points you have made are in them and I posted and published a lot of them before I had ever read or heard of anyone else making them.

I doubt very much that Christ will return near 2033 because this belief is too well known and his coming around that time would be universally expected. And no surprise at all.

Jesus Christ came and fulfilled the first Holy Days of Passover, the Wave Sheaf and Pentecost on their exact days. And he will return and fulfill the remaining Holy Days of the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, the Feast of Tabernacles and the Last Great day.

Do a simple search for the words trump and trumpet in the New Testament and you'll see that Jesus Christ will return on the Feast of Trumpets. It's also very possible that this will happen this year. You better hurry.

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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YOU ALL WHO SET DAY AND/OR HOUR ARE ALL IN ERROR.

TO BE A TRUE WITNESS PROPHET TESTIFIER FOR GOD
ONE MUST REPRESENT GOD'S WORD AS IT IS.

AND IF YOU ARE NOT REPRESENTING GOD'S WORD AS IT IS,
THEN WHO ARE YOU REPRESENTING ????

SCRIPTURE DOES NOT GIVE DATES,
IT GIVES EVENTS.

THE EVENTS ARE THE CLUES AS
TO THE TIMES AND SEASONS
WHICH CAN BE AND
SHOULD BE KNOWN
BY THE RIGHTEOUS
(1 THESSALONIANS 5).

WHY? BECAUSE THE RIGHTEOUS
ARE THOSE WHO HAVE GOD'S
WORD, AND GOD'S WORD
GIVES THE EVENTS.

AS TO THE DAY AND HOUR OF
JESUS' RETURN, GOD'S WORD
ITSELF DOES NOT GIVE US A
DATE BUT GIVES US EVENTS
TO WATCH FOR (MICAH 7 /
MATTHEW 24 / MATTHEW 25 /
MARK 13 / LUKE 21 /
REVELATION 3).

AND THOSE EVENTS MUST OCCUR
BEFORE JESUS CAN MAKE HIS
RETURN:

ACTS 3
But those things which God had preached
before by the mouth of all the prophets -
the things that his Messiah should suffer -
his Messiah has so fulfilled...And God shall
send to you One who has been prepared for you,
even Messiah Jesus, WHOM THE HEAVEN MUST
RECEIVE UNTIL ALL THE THINGS WHICH
GOD HAS SPOKEN BY THE MOUTH OF HIS
HOLY PROPHETS SINCE THE WORLD
BEGAN SHOULD BE FULFILLED...
Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those
that follow after, as many as have spoken and
preached, have likewise foretold of these days.

SO WHAT ARE THE EVENTS WHICH
MUST OCCUR BEFORE JESUS CAN
MAKE HIS RETURN, AND WILL SET
THE SCHEDULE OR TIMELINE FOR
HIS RETURN, AND THUS SHOULD
BE WATCHED FOR AND NOTED BY
GOD'S PEOPLE?


1.

The King of the North aka The Sea Beast
(Daniel 11 / Revelation 13 / more) -
which means North of Israel -
which is the European Union, and
whose lead nation is Germany aka
The Earth Beast and The False Prophet,
which exercises all of the former's
authority and causes the world to
worship the former and its image or
insignia or emblem or seal and says that
it has the answers to the world's problems
(which it does not, thus it is called
The False Prophet; the only answer to
the world's problems is the return of
Jesus and the removal of all of the
wicked sinners off of the earth that
evening that he returns exactly as
prophesied shall happen in God's Word),
must place its military in and around
Israel / Jerusalem exactly as prophesied
in Daniel 11 and reiterated by Jesus in
Luke 21, in order to initiate that period
of time called "The Time of the Gentiles"
and "The Tribulation", which shall last
for time/times/half - 42 months -
1,260 days - or in other words 3 1/2 years
[note: one month = 30 days].

2.

Then the King of the East aka
Gog and Magog aka China and Mongolia,
and its allies Tubal and Meshech aka
Russia and Moscow - aka in toto
The Kings of the Earth
(Revelation 19) -
must send its military
200 million strong (Revelation 9)
across the continent and dried
river Euphrates (Revelation 9 /
Revelation 16), and kill 1/3 the
population of the earth along the
way (Revelation 9), to muster it to
the large plain Megiddo / Har Megiddo / Armageddon
55 miles North of Jerusalem, then down into
valley Kidron / Jehoshaphat / Jehovah's Judgment / Valley of Decision,
which is immediately adjacent to East Jerusalem, then
over into East Jerusalem, to battle the military of
The King of the North that had already been stationed
there for the preceding 3 1/2 years and whose
non-kosher words out of its principal's mouths
aka frogs (Revelation 16) incited this King of
the East to arise, in order to fulfill the
prophecy regarding the enemy nations being
gathered together as a footstool for returning
Jesus' feet (literally as he ultimately descends
from the third heaven where he is currently
seated at the right hand of God down to
Mount Olives whence he last left it as
prophesied by the two in Acts 1, and as
depicted in Zechariah 14 and Revelation 19,
and as spoken about in many other scriptures
especially ones which include mention of clouds),
and to effect that period of time called by society
The Battle of Armageddon and which period of time
the Bible calls "The Time of Jacob's Trouble" and
"The Great Tribulation". Imagine being converged
upon by a military 200 million strong !!!!

3.

Then The Two Witnesses / Prophets / Testifiers / Tormentors
(Matthew 24:14 / Zechariah 4:1-14 / Revelation 11:1-14) -
whose 3 1/2 years mission ran parallel to the King of the
North's 3 1/2 years heyday - must be killed by that King of
the North (meaning by one or more of its principals or agents)
during an Evening hour from 6:00 p.m. to 12:00 midnight and
then lay dead on a street of Jerusalem for near 3 1/2 days.

IT IS AT THAT POINT, AND AT NO POINT SOONER,
THAT GOD SHALL SIGNAL FOR JESUS TO BEGIN HIS
RETURN DESCENT BACK TO MOUNT OLIVES WHENCE
HE LAST LEFT IT (1 THESSALONIANS 5 /
1 CORINTHIANS 15).

THEN ONCE JESUS BEGINS TO DO SO, GOD WILL
OPEN AND READ THE BOOK OR RECORD OF EACH
SOUL (DANIEL 7:9,10,26), AND THEN GLORIFY
AND THEN RAPTURE OR GATHER TOGETHER INTO
THE AIR ABOVE THE CLOUDS ABOVE MOUNT OLIVES
FIRSTLY THE RIGHTEOUS DISINCARNATE
SPIRIT-SOULS AKA THE DEAD, AND THEN AT THE
3 1/2 DAY MARK DURING A MORNING HOUR FROM
6:00 A.M. TO 12:00 NOON GLORIFY AND THEN
RAPTURE OR GATHER TOGETHER INTO THE AIR
ABOVE THE CLOUDS ABOVE MOUNT OLIVES
SECONDLY THE RIGHTEOUS INCARNATE
SPIRIT-SOULS AKA THE QUICK, INCLUDING
AND AT THE SAME TIME AS THE TWO WITNESSES /
PROPHETS / TESTIFIERS / TORMENTORS.
[NOTE: THE NEW GLORIFIED BODY IS THE SAME
TYPE OF BODY THAT GOD GAVE TO JESUS AFTER
JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED, AND IT CAN BE MOVED
MATERIALIZED DEMATERIALIZED AT WILL AND
IS NOT AMENABLE TO THE KNOWN LAWS OF
PHYSICS AND IS ETERNAL, THUS THE ABILITY
TO NOT ONLY FLOAT IN THE AIR BUT REMAIN
FLOATING IN THE AIR. JESUS SPOKE ABOUT
THIS NEW BODY IN MATTHEW 22 / MARK 12 /
LUKE 20 / JOHN 3, STATING THAT IT WAS
ANGEL-LIKE AND DID NOT ENGAGE IN SEX
(MARRY) NOR THEREFORE HAVE CHILDREN,
AND COULD COME AND GO AND NOT BE SEEN
LIKE THE WIND, AND IN ANOTHER SCRIPTURE
REFERRED TO IT AS A NECESSARY WEDDING GARMENT
TO ATTEND THE WEDDING BANQUET (MATTHEW 22),
AND THAT WITHOUT IT YOU WOULD BE NAKED AND
ASHAMED (REVELATION 16), AND IT EXPLAINS
RESURRECTED JESUS' OWN SUDDEN APPEARANCE
IN A ROOM THAT WAS LOCKED BUT ALSO AT
ANOTHER TIME HIS EATING SOME FISH AND
HONEYCOMB. PAUL REFERRED TO THE NEW BODY
AS THE CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, MEANING
THE LAUREL WREATH OF VICTORY AGAINST
SATAN SELF SIN. AND REVELATION 19
DEPICTS THE NEW BODY AS FINE PURE
CLEAN WHITE LINEN (A NATURAL FABRIC)
FIT FOR THE RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS OR SAINTS.]

NOW WE SEE ALL THE GLORIFIED RIGHTEOUS
GATHERED TOGETHER THERE IN THE AIR ABOVE
THE CLOUDS ABOVE MOUNT OLIVES THE LATTER
HALF OF THE MORNING HOURS TO MEET AND
GREET JESUS AS HE THEN DESCENDS TO THEM
AND THEY ALL SEE HIM WITH THEIR EYES
(FULFILLING THE SCRIPTURES REGARDING SAME).

AND WHILE JESUS AND THEY THUS MEET AND GREET AND
REMAIN IN THE AIR THERE, IMMEDIATELY UPON THE
DEPARTURE OF THE TWO WITNESSES ET AL DOWN ON
EARTH BELOW SHALL HAVE BEGUN TO OCCUR A
SUCCESSION OF EARTHLY CATACLYSMS, TO WIT:

A.

The largest earthquake ever, attended by
ginormous hail, and volcanic eruptions
spewing their ash, which shall cause
islands to be inundated and mountains to
be leveled and the sun to be blackened and
the moon to be reddened;

B.

A turning of the earth upside down (Isaiah 24)
or a pole reversal, which shall cause the
stars to look like they are falling to the
earth and the heavens to look like they are
being separated apart like when opening a scroll
(Revelation 6);

C.

Then at 12:00 noon God will bring a cloud cover so
thick that the light and warmth of the sun and moon
and stars cannot penetrate and the Earth shall grow
dark and cold and icy.

THEN FROM 12:00 NOON TO 6:00 P.M. OR AT LEAST 6 HOURS
STRAIGHT OF NO FURTHER CATACLYSM AND NO NEW TROUBLE
OTHER THAN THE DARKNESS AND COLDNESS AND GREATER ICE -
AND RIGHT WHEN THOSE ON THE EARTH ARE BEGINNING TO
THINK "PEACE AND SAFETY" - THAT IS WHEN DISASTER
SHALL STRIKE THEM AND THEY SHALL NOT BE ABLE TO ESCAPE:

1 THESSALONIANS 5

But of the times and seasons [of Jesus' return],
my brethren, you have no need that I should
write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly
well that the day of our Lord comes just like a
thief in the night [Evening]. For when they
shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden
destruction will come upon them, as travail
upon a woman with child, and they shall not
escape.

But you, my brethren, are not in darkness that
that day should overtake you as a thief.
You are all the children of light, and
the children of the day; and you are not the
children of the night, nor the children of darkness.

Therefore let us not sleep, as do others, but let us
WATCH and be sober. For those who sleep, sleep in the
night: and those who are drunken, are drunken in the night.
But let us who are the children of the day be alert.

IT IS THEN, IN THE EVENING, DURING AN HOUR FROM 6:00 P.M. TO
12:00 MIDNIGHT, THAT JESUS AND THOSE WITH HIM SHALL BREAK
THROUGH THE CLOUDS ABOVE MOUNT OLIVES AND EVERY EYE OF
THOSE IN THAT MOUNT OLIVES AREA SHALL SEE HIM AND
EVEN THE EYES OF THOSE WHO HAD PIERCED HIM LITERALLY
AT HIS CRUCIFIXION AND FIGURATIVELY IN THEIR LIVES
(FULFILLING THE SCRIPTURES REGARDING SAME), AND JESUS
AND THOSE WITH HIM SHALL DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST THE
TWO ABOVE AFOREMENTIONED MILITARIES WHO THEN JOIN FORCES AND
BATTLE AGAINST JESUS AND THOSE WITH HIM - WHICH BATTLE IS CALLED
IN THE BIBLE "THE BATTLE OF THAT GREAT DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY" -
AND WHICH BATTLE IS SPOKEN OF AND DEPICTED IN
ZECHARIAH 14 / REVELATION 17 / REVELATION 19 / MORE.
[NOTE: THIS DESCENT OF JESUS AND THOSE WITH HIM TO
THE MOUNT OLIVES AND AREA CONSTITUTES THE FIRST
RESURRECTION BACK TO EARTHLY LIFE, WHICH IS OF
THE RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS.]

JESUS AND THOSE WITH HIM OF COURSE ARE THE VICTORS,
AND HE AND THEY KILL THOSE MILITARIES IN THAT AREA,
THUS THE BLOOD COMING UP TO THE HORSES BRIDLES IN THE VALLEY
KIDRON / JEHOSHAPHAT / JEHOVAH'S JUDGMENT / VALLEY OF DECISION
(REVELATION 14) [WHETHER LITERAL OR NOT, CERTAINLY REFERENCES
THAT VALLEY AND THE MILITARY 200 MILLION STRONG AND THE GREAT
AMOUNT OF BLOOD AND ITS RISING UP IN THAT VALLEY RATHER THAN
ITS SPREADING OUT ON SOME PLAIN].

AND AT THE SAME TIME GOD SEES TO IT AS WELL BY FIRE PLAGUE MORE
THAT EVERY OTHER PERSON ON THE EARTH AT THAT TIME IS KILLED ALSO,
THUS REMOVING ALL OF THE WICKED SINNERS FROM THE EARTH AND IN ONE
DAY, EXACTLY AS PROPHESIED IN NUMEROUS SCRIPTURES. [NOTE: THUS
ALL THE WICKED SINNERS SHALL THEN BE ON THE OTHER SIDE "IN OUTER
DARKNESS" AND THEY SHALL BE "WEEPING AND GNASHING THEIR TEETH" OR
CRYING AND COMPLAINING IN MENTAL TORMENT AND THE "WONDERFUL"
COMPANY OF ONE ANOTHER. AND THIS IS THE "NIGHT WHEN NO MAN
CAN LABOR", MEANING THESE NON-GLORIFIED WICKED SINNERS CANNOT
LABOR ON THE EARTH FOR THE ONE THOUSAND YEARS STRAIGHT MILLENNIUM.]

THEN THE MORNING IS THE FIRST MORNING OF THE MILLENNIUM OR THE
ONE THOUSAND YEARS STRAIGHT OF PEACE AND JOY OF ONLY JESUS AND
THE OTHER RIGHTEOUS BEING ON THE EARTH AND IN THE WONDERFUL COMPANY
OF JUST ONE ANOTHER (NO WAR, NO CRIME, NO FEAR, NO ANXIETY),
EXACTLY AS PROPHESIED IN NUMEROUS SCRIPTURES.

THEN ONCE THE MILLENNIUM HAS ENDED GOD WILL EFFECT THE SECOND
RESURRECTION BACK TO EARTHLY LIFE, WHICH IS OF THE WICKED SINNERS,
AND WHO SHALL NUMBER AS THE SAND OF THE SEA (REVELATION 20).

THEN WHEN THEY SHORTLY LATER [LESS THAN ONE YEAR]
GATHER TOGETHER TO COME UP AGAINST THE
RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS, GOD WILL RAIN A FIRE
DOWN ONTO THEM WHICH SHALL ZAP THEM
BACK ONTO THE OTHER SIDE AGAIN, AND
WHICH SHALL ALSO GO ON TO DECREATE THE
EARTH AND EVERYTHING ON THE EARTH AND
EVERY MATTER AND ELEMENT IN EXISTENCE
(2 PETER 3 / HEBREWS 12 / MORE).

THEN JESUS, AND THE OTHER RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS, AND
ALSO THE WICKED SINNERS, ALL FIND THEMSELVES
STANDING BEFORE GOD ON HIS GREAT WHITE THRONE
WHILE THE LAKE OF FIRE LOOMS IN THE DISTANCE -
AND THE BOOK OR RECORD OF EACH SPIRIT-SOUL THEN
IS OPEN AND READ AND THEY ARE JUDGED BY THEIR WORKS -
WORDS AND DEEDS. THIS IS WHEN THE RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS
JUDGE THE WICKED SINNERS (1 CORINTHIANS 6), AND THE
DECISION IS FOR THE WICKED SINNERS TO BE THROWN INTO
THE LAKE OF FIRE.

IMAGINE HOW EMBARRASSING THIS MUST ALL BE TO THE
WICKED SINNERS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE IS NO
EMBARRASSMENT GREATER. AND THIS IS EXACTLY THEIR
JUST DESSERTS FOR HAVING ENJOYED MAKING LIES UP
ABOUT AND LAUGHING AT AND RIDICULING AND ATTACKING
ETCETERA THE RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS WHEN THERE WAS STILL
AN EARTH AND THEY WERE BOTH ALIVE ON THE EARTH.

THEN THE WICKED SINNERS ARE THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE,
WHICH SHALL SEPARATE SOUL FROM SPIRIT -
MEANING THE TWO INDIVIDUAL CREATED PORTIONS OR
CONSCIOUSNESS AND WILL -
FROM THE ONE UNIVERSAL ETERNAL PORTION OR
SPIRIT -
AND THEN THE LATTER PORTION SHALL RETURN TO THE
GOD WHO GAVE OR LENT IT (ECCLESIASTES 12), AND
THEY SHALL THUS NO LONGER EXIST AND SHALL NEVER
EXIST AGAIN [THE LAKE OF FIRE BURNS WITH BRIMSTONE
OR SULPHUR - WHICH IS A SUBSTANCE THAT KEEPS A
FIRE BURNING OR FROM GOING OUT - SO IN OTHER
WORDS THE DECREATION AND NON-EXISTENCE OF THE
SPIRIT-SOUL SHALL BE PERMANENT OR FOR ALL
ETERNITY, FULFILLING THE SCRIPTURES WHICH
PROMISE PERISHING OR ETERNAL DEATH TO THE
WICKED SINNERS].

THEN THE RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS - JESUS AND THE OTHERS -
ENTER INTO ETHERIC HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM TO SPEND
AN ETERNITY OF PEACE AND JOY WITH GOD, AND ALL THE
FORMER THINGS ARE REMEMBERED NO MORE.

THIS IS THE STORY THAT THE HOLY BIBLE GIVES US IN
REGARDS TO JESUS' RETURN, AND THE RELATED EVENTS
BEFORE AND DURING AND AFTER, WHEN WE ALLOW SCRIPTURE
TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURE AND COORDINATE IT ALL INTO A
SEAMLESS RATIONAL WHOLE.

THIS IS THE WORK THAT I HAVE DONE, AND
THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS EVER DONE.

AND MY WORDS WILL PROVE TRUE,
BECAUSE THEY ACCURATELY
CONVEY GOD'S WORD
THE HOLY BIBLE.

AMEN.


Debra Dee Freeman
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THE HOLY BIBLE DOES GIVE US CLUES
AS TO THE SEASON (A SEASON IS A
SPAN OF TIME).

AND THAT IS VERY SIMPLE AND CLEAR:

JESUS SAID THAT THE GENERATION THAT
WITNESSED THE FIG TREE ISRAEL
BRANCHING FORTH WOULD WITNESS HIS
RETURN.

WELL THE FIG TREE ISRAEL BRANCHED FORTH
WHEN SHE REGAINED JERUSALEM IN YEAR
1967 / 1968 + 70 YEAR GENERATION =
2037 / 2038 AT THE LATEST.

THE GENERATION SINCE 1967 / 1968
IS THAT LAST GENERATION.

WE ARE IT.

P.S. PER MY ARTICLE ABOVE, THE FIRST AND
MAIN SIGN TO WATCH FOR IS THE MILITARY OF
THE KING OF THE NORTH BEING PLACED IN AND
AROUND ISRAEL. THIS SHALL BEGIN THE BASICALLY
3 1/2 YEAR COUNTDOWN TO THE RETURN OF JESUS.

P.P.S. JEWS CONSIDER 70 YEARS TO BE A
GENERATION, AND JESUS DID NOT SPECIFY,
SO WE CAN ASSUME BY GENERATION HE MEANT
70 YEARS. YES, THERE IS AT LEAST ONE
SCRIPTURE THAT MENTIONS AN ADDITIONAL
10 YEARS TO MAKE IT 80 YEARS, BUT THAT
DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD IGNORE WHAT
THE JEWS COMMONLY CONSIDERED TO BE A
GENERATION AND THE FACT THAT JESUS DID
NOT SPECIFY.

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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May 4, 2017, 7:12:47 PM5/4/17
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Here we see John has said he thinks, and he believes, and he knows -
yes all three - in regards to a return of Jesus in year 2017 or yes
now the very year that we are in, and sometimes he has given even the
day and month for this year, and of course given different answers there
as well:

JOHN ALEXANDER ABRAMS: FALSE PROPHET
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/YRV5g0mWcow

VIVA: DO A COUNT-DOWN TILL JANUARY 01 2018, WHICH WILL BE
WHEN JOHN MUST LEAVE THE GROUP IN GREAT DISGRACE AND SHAME
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/FYWN4eSEAYs

How unbiblical and dumb can the man be?

Numerous scriptural prophecies have yet to be fulfilled for
Jesus' return to occur, and the ones that have not been are
going to take at the least 3 1/2 years from now !!!!

And as far as his so-called books?

He means his amazon "books" that have been abysmal failures.
He really is a joker that he even mentions them here.
It is just in hopes to gain a pittance of money.
He does not care that they are crazy junk.

J. Abrams

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Just ignore DDF because she is insane and she knows less about the Bible than a Saint Bernard.

She says she is Jesus' favorite person, that she will sit on a throne at his right hand, that she is the lead of the two Witnesses, that she is the Apostle John and that she is the Christ of many worlds. Oh, I forgot, she also wrestled with Jacob and changed his name to Israel.

And to top it all off besides spamming millions of words in this forum she has honored, thanked, made requests of and prayed to Satan.

She is as insane and evil as anyone can possibly get.

J. Abrams

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BTW I just found three of my books on EBAY.

I haven't promoted any with even a penny since 2007 and they were doing 13 copies a month so there are quite a few out there.

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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Lamsa's correct translation:

ISAIAH 24
Behold, the Lord shall destroy the earth and lay it waste and
turn it upside down (pole reversal) and scatter its inhabitants.
And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with
the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her
mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender,
so with the borrower; as with the creditor, so with the debtor.
The land shall be utterly destroyed and utterly spoiled; for the
Lord has spoken this word. The earth howls and sits in mourning,
the world wails and sits in mourning, the haughty people of the
earth lament. The earth also is defiled like its inhabitants,
because they have transgressed the law, changed the ordinance,
and nullified the everlasting covenant. Therefore the earth shall
sit in mourning, and all its inhabitants shall be condemned;
therefore all the inhabitants of the earth shall be destroyed,
and a few men shall be left.

THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE DAY OF THE LORD -
THE MORNING OF THE DAY THAT JESUS SHALL
RETURN IN THE EVENING, AS I HAVE EXPLAINED
IN MY ARTICLE ABOVE, WHEN ALL THE CATACLYSMS
OCCUR INCLUDING A POLE REVERAL, WHICH SHALL
INDEED KILL THE MAJORITY OF THE HUMANS ON
THE EARTH AT THAT TIME, AND WHICH AT THAT
POINT ARE ALL WICKED SINNERS.

THIS WILL KNOCK THE POPULATION WAY DOWN AS TO
WHAT PEOPLE WILL BE LEFT WHEN JESUS MAKES HIS
RETURN IN THE EVENING, THUS FULFILLING THE
SCRIPTURE THAT UNLESS THE DAYS WERE CUT SHORT
THERE WOULD BE NO PEOPLE LEFT ON EARTH
[EVEN THE SMALL MINORITY LEFT THAT DAY WILL
BE IN THE AFTERNOON THEN ALSO CONTENDING WITH
DARKNESS AND COLDNESS AND GREATER ICE, BESIDE
ALL THE RIGHTEOUS QUICK HAVING DISAPPEARED
FROM THE EARTH SHORTLY AGO IN THE MORNING,
AND KEEP IN MIND TOO THAT 1/3 OF THE POPULATION
OF THE EARTH HAD ALREADY BEEN KILLED BY THE
200 MILLION STRONG MILITARY OF THE KING OF THE
EAST AND ITS ALLIES]:

MATTHEW 24
For then will be great suffering, such as has never
happened from the beginning of the world until now,
and never will be again. And if those days were not
shortened, no flesh would live; but for the sake of
the chosen ones [the glorification and rapture of
the righteous quick] those days will be shortened
[they will be glorified and raptured the Morning of
the day of Jesus' return, and then return with him
in the Evening].

> The below verse shows the woman (body of believers) raptured out of
> danger for the remaining 3 and 1/2 years and also the the beast being
> in charge for that length of time until Jesus returns.

> Revelation 12:6
> The woman ran away into the desert to a place God prepared for her
> where she would be taken care of for one thousand two hundred sixty
> days.

WHAT A FANTASY.

FIRST OF ALL, SATAN HIMSELF IS A BELIEVER -
HE BELIEVES IN BOTH GOD AND JESUS.

BELIEVING IS NOT ENOUGH.

SECOND OF ALL, THERE IS NO RAPTURING OUT OF DANGER, AND
THIS VERSE GIVES NO RAPTURING OUT OF DANGER.

THERE IS ONLY ONE RETURN OF JESUS AND THAT
OCCURS AFTER THE PERIOD OF TRIBULATION
"TIME OF THE GENTILES" AND THEN THE PERIOD
OF GREAT TRIBULATION "TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE" -
OR AFTER THE KING OF THE NORTH INFILTRATES ISRAEL
AND THEN 3 1/2 YEARS LATER THE KING OF THE EAST
INFILTRATES EAST JERUSALEM - OR THE ENEMY NATIONS
ARE THEN GATHERED TOGETHER AS A FOOTSTOOL FOR RETURNING
JESUS' FEET. AT LEAST 12 SCRIPTURES TELL US THAT JESUS
M U S T REMAIN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD UNTIL THIS
GATHERING TOGETHER OCCURS, SO THERE IS NO SECRET FIRST
RETURN OF JESUS WITH A WHISKING AWAY OF THE RIGHTEOUS
BEFORE THAT POINT AS FANTASIZED AND SPOUTED BY SO MANY.

ADDITIONALLY, PAUL CLEARLY SPELLS OUT IN 1 THESSALONIANS 4
THAT THE RAPTURE OF THE RIGHTEOUS DISINCARNATE "DEAD" AND
THEN THE RAPTURE OF THE RIGHTEOUS INCARNATE "QUICK" SHALL
BOTH OCCUR ONCE JESUS BEGINS HIS RETURN DESCENT FROM THE
THIRD HEAVEN THROUGH THE AIR AND THEN THROUGH THE CLOUDS
AND THEN TO THE MOUNT OLIVES AND AREA AS PLAINLY PROPHESIED
IN ACTS 1 AND PLAINLY DEPICTED IN ZECHARIAH 14 AND
REVELATION 19 FOR HIS ONE RETURN OR HIS SECOND COMING.
THERE ARE NOT TWO RETURNS. THERE ARE NOT A SECOND COMING
AND A THIRD COMING. IT IS ONE RETURN, CALLED HIS SECOND COMING:

1 THESSALONIANS 4

Now I want you to know, my brethren,
that you should not grieve over those
[spirit-souls] who are dead [disincarnate],
as those do who have no hope [don't believe
in the spirit-soul or the Bible].

For if we believe that Jesus died and
rose again, even so those who have died
in Jesus, God will bring with him [when
he returns].

For this we say to you by the very word
of our Lord, that we who are alive [quick -
incarnate] and remain [on the Earth] unto
the coming of our Lord, shall not overtake
[be glorified and raptured or gathered
together to the air above the clouds above
Mount Olives first before] those who are dead.

For

1.
Our Lord himself shall descend from heaven
with a shout and the voice of the archangel
and with the trumpet of God [i.e. when the
signal is given to begin to do so]; and then

2.
Those who died in Christ will rise [be
glorified and raptured or gathered together
to the air above the clouds above Mount Olives]
first, and then

3.
We [quick] who are alive and remain [on Earth]
shall be caught up together with them in the
[air above the] clouds [above Mount Olives]
[to be there] to meet [and greet] our Lord in
the air [above the clouds above Mount Olives]
[as he continues his descent back towards
Mount Olives whence he last left it] and so
shall we then ever be with our Lord [firstly
waiting with him there in the air, then breaking
through the clouds to the Mount Olives and area,
then battling the two militaries gathered there,
then reigning on Earth for one thousand years
straight of peace and joy and the wonderful
company of just one another, and then standing
before God on His great white throne, and then
entering into etheric heavenly New Jerusalem to
spend eternity with God]. Wherefore comfort one
another with these words.

ALL OR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE REST OF
THIS POST OF YOURS IS EQUALLY ERRONEOUS
AND JUNK, AS WOULD BE EXPECTED.

Miloch

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In article <f4b7738a-5b07-4530...@googlegroups.com>, J. Abrams
says...
>
>Just ignore DDF because she is insane and she knows less about the Bible th=
>an a Saint Bernard.
>
>She says she is Jesus' favorite person, that she will sit on a throne at hi=
>s right hand, that she is the lead of the two Witnesses, that she is the Ap=
>ostle John and that she is the Christ of many worlds. Oh, I forgot, she als=
>o wrestled with Jacob and changed his name to Israel.
>
>And to top it all off besides spamming millions of words in this forum she =
>has honored, thanked, made requests of and prayed to Satan.
>
>She is as insane and evil as anyone can possibly get.

Forget Debs...I need you to concentrate on something more important!

You'll be happy to know that the Warriors unmerciful thumping of Utah on Tuesday
was so thorough that I think there's enough of your last prayer 'residue' left
to carry them thru tonight's game...bottom line?...we won't be needing any
Warriors prayer sessions from you until later in the week.

Now look, Abrams...I want you to take tonight's prayer session time and use it
to cross over into the wrong side of the tracks...you know...where you
live...and pick up a cheap hooker...think of it as experiencing the sins of
Sodom and Gomorrah so you can properly condemn them.

...and if the police ask what you're doing there...just tell 'em it was Miloch's
idea...they'll understand.




go Warriors!



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Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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As seen at the following link,
the occupation listed for
John Alexander Abrams
is English Teacher:

http://www.amazon.com/Death-Pre-Tribulation-Rapture-Important-Prophecy/dp/1453878971/ref=la_B00IY0G9QM_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1443190663&sr=1-1

It is extremely hard to believe that he was
and/or is an English Teacher considering the
poor English and typos and obvious lack of
education rampant throughout his thousands
of postings on Usenet for more than a
decade, plus also the abysmal failure of
his "articles" that he has been posting
for years at alt.bible.prophecy.

And, sure enough, upon doing an Internet
research after he had announced that he
had done one on me, I discovered that he
is not an English Teacher BUT AN
ENGLISH LANGUAGE TUTOR and
over skype while sitting on
his butt - a "job" that any
English-speaking 12 year old
could do:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22mr.j.a.abrams%40gmail.com%22&rlz=1CAACAG_enUS732US732&oq=%22mr.j.a.abrams%40gmail.com%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.6382j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=%22mr.j....@gmail.com%22&filter=0

In addition he has made the following four posts
and so appears to be a run-of-the-mill low-life
dumb thug from New Jersey, perhaps currently
in prison:

> I had to google (btw GOOGLE! what the !@#$%^&
> happened to cache!!!!!!!!!) the words grow rooms.
>
> Many years ago I went out west and almost every
> house had a big one...growing up in NJ and seeing
> one of these in person for the first time I had the
> thought that the Feds or the bad-guys would come
> through the door and shoot me - any second. Strange
> place, everyone, everywhere, always offered you a beer...
> even early in the morning.
>
> And one of my friends who lived out there actually
> had a shoot out with the feds and since they never
> identified themselves the feds had to apologize after
> the gun battle...yup...and I thought NJ could be
> dangerous and crazy.
>
> And I could not get back fast enough.
>
> *

> Hate is such a strong thing; 6 years later and
> I want to find a terrorist and rip his heart out
> through his throat.

> And who you calling her you old worthless son of a bitch?
>
> I`ll cut off your nut sack and make you eat it.
>
> * I have a cold, a little in a bad mood, I usually just think
> these thinks about Satan`s favorite hand puppet. Ike must
> like his hand there.

> Your mother is the satanic bitch who spawned your Satan
> loving @ss - which is precisely WHY you say that Satan is a
> woman.
>
> To you YOUR MOTHER IS SATAN.
>
> Did she make you bathe with her?
>
> Or was that just your daddy?
>
> Your nothing but little old bored worthless evil sack of
> Satan loving shit.
>
> And pussy face?
>
> LOL
>
> Wow, where did you grow up soggy white bread?
>
> Opey could kick your old stupid blasphemous punk @zz.
>
> What a complete waste of good cum.

That last line is also extremely suspect.
This John Alexander Abrams apparently
fancies himself a Bible expert and
Leviticus 15 clearly states that semen
is unclean and that anything it touches
is unclean. Making a reference to
"good cum" hardly betokens any
supposed student of the Bible let
alone any supposed Bible expert.

Here is a picture of him (his head/face):

Click on the Upper Left "Book" after the
words "Look inside" appear on its Upper Right,
and then scroll down the middle section just
short of the very end of the that middle section
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1453878971/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnk/182-5741489-7325662

Does this guy look nice or smart to YOU ????
Does he look like he is in prison to YOU ????
Do you think you should trust this man or
anything that he says or would do ????
Since he says he is in his 40's,
but looks like he is in his 70's,
do you think he should not only
call but keep calling a middle-aged
female in her 50's "old" ????

GOD AND I HAVE HIS NUMBER,
AND IT IS NOT A GOOD ONE.

HE WANTS TO LIE ABOUT ME
AND CRUCIFY ME AS IF I
AM JESUS AND IT IS AGAIN
2,000 YEARS AGO BECAUSE I
HAVE THE TRUTH AND HE DOES
NOT AND I AM COMPETITION
FOR HIM AND HIS EGO AND
THE POSITION THAT HE
IMAGINED THAT HE USED
TO HAVE AT THIS GROUP
BEFORE I STARTED POSTING
AT IT.

SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE
ASKED HIM TO STOP
STALKING AND
HARASSING ME,
BUT TO NO AVAIL.

HE CARES NOT ABOUT
USENET PROTOCOL NOR
NETIQUETTE NOR
THE GOLDEN RULE -
JUST ABOUT
BLATHERING AND
SPOUTING ALL
DAY LONG AND
EVERY DAY AND
WASTING USENET
RESOURCES AND
EVERYONE'S TIME.

PLEASE HELP OUR
CAUSE.

PLEASE TELL HIM
TO GET LOST TOO.

J. Abrams

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LMAO

DDF can't even read.

No wonder she thinks she is an angel, an Apostle and a Christ.

It's because she is an idiot.

Michael Christ

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On 5/05/2017 11:32 AM, Debra Dee McQueen Freeman wrote:
> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 8:07:56 PM UTC-4, J. Abrams wrote:
>> Just ignore DDF because she is insane and she knows less about the Bible than a Saint Bernard.
>>
>> She says she is Jesus' favorite person, that she will sit on a throne at his right hand, that she is the lead of the two Witnesses, that she is the Apostle John and that she is the Christ of many worlds. Oh, I forgot, she also wrestled with Jacob and changed his name to Israel.
>>
>> And to top it all off besides spamming millions of words in this forum she has honored, thanked, made requests of and prayed to Satan.
>>
>> She is as insane and evil as anyone can possibly get.
>
> As seen at the following link,
> the occupation listed for
> John Alexander Abrams
> is English Teacher:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Death-Pre-Tribulation-Rapture-Important-Prophecy/dp/1453878971/ref=la_B00IY0G9QM_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1443190663&sr=1-1
>
> It is extremely hard to believe that he was
> and/or is an English Teacher considering the
> poor English

Well, John has been known for poor spelling. For instance, he thinks
'centre' is spelt 'center'.

I just had to give him a gentle Christian nudge, that it was 'English' a
long, long, long, long, long, long, long time before it was Yankee talk.
:-).

I like to think of him as my little student. Unfortunately for you Mrs
Cayce, I know you as Ms 'Unable to Teach', so you will just have to go
to the Warriors with Miloch and howl at nothing.





Michael Christ



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Keep your British spelling out of our English. There are no U'S in color or honor nor fishes in the sea or people's on land.

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-4, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 5/05/2017 11:32 AM, Debra Dee McQueen Freeman wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 8:07:56 PM UTC-4, J. Abrams wrote:
> >> Just ignore DDF because she is insane and she knows less about the Bible than a Saint Bernard.
> >>
> >> She says she is Jesus' favorite person, that she will sit on a throne at his right hand, that she is the lead of the two Witnesses, that she is the Apostle John and that she is the Christ of many worlds. Oh, I forgot, she also wrestled with Jacob and changed his name to Israel.
> >>
> >> And to top it all off besides spamming millions of words in this forum she has honored, thanked, made requests of and prayed to Satan.
> >>
> >> She is as insane and evil as anyone can possibly get.
> >
> > As seen at the following link,
> > the occupation listed for
> > John Alexander Abrams
> > is English Teacher:
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Death-Pre-Tribulation-Rapture-Important-Prophecy/dp/1453878971/ref=la_B00IY0G9QM_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1443190663&sr=1-1
> >
> > It is extremely hard to believe that he was
> > and/or is an English Teacher considering the
> > poor English
>
> Well, John has been known for poor spelling. For instance, he thinks
> 'centre' is spelt 'center'.
>
> I just had to give him a gentle Christian nudge, that it was 'English' a
> long, long, long, long, long, long, long time before it was Yankee talk.
> :-).
>
> I like to think of him as my little student.

You should revise that -
he is a 6' 4" ox oaf galoot.

> Unfortunately for you Mrs Cayce,

You might as well call me Mrs Joel -
since both Cayce and myself and others
of our ilk fulfill the prophecy of Joel 2 :-)

And in the meantime you can continue to
bore us all to tears with your JESUS
JESUS JESUS and JESUS IS EVERYTHING and
JESUS WHISPERS ALL DAY LONG TO ME PERSONALLY
and I AM SO SPECIAL and I AM HERE TO CALL
ALL OF YOU DIRTY WORMS AND TELL YOU HOW
PERFECT AND GREAT I AM BECAUSE I GROVELLED
PROPERLY TO GOD AND BEGGED GOD TO MAKE ME
PERFECT IN SPIRIT AND THEN GOD DID SO AND
SO NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT I SAY OR DO
BECAUSE THOSE ARE JUST WORKS OF THE FLESH.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE INTEREST IN AN
ERRONEOUS PSYCHO WHO REFUSES TO
FOLLOW THE COMMAND OF JESUS TO
WORSHIP HIS FATHER GOD -
CANNOT SEEM TO GET HIMSELF TO
GRADUATE FROM THE LESSER SON TO
THE GREATER FATHER -
AND TO STOP CALLING HIMSELF
CHRIST WHICH SELF-NAMING IS
AGAINST THE COMMAND TO WALK
AS CHRIST WALKED AND EVEN
CHRIST HIMSELF NEVER
NAMED HIMSELF CHRIST :-)

> I know you as Ms 'Unable to Teach',

WELL, TRUE THAT YOU CANNOT TEACH ME ANYTHING,
AT LEAST IN REGARDS TO THE BIBLE AND THEOLOGY
AND DOCTRINES, OR AT THE LEAST FOR THE PAST
NEAR TWO YEARS. PERHAPS YOU WILL FINALLY SAY
SOMETHING BIBLICALLY ACCURATE IN THESE REGARDS
AND THAT I DID NOT KNOW ALREADY, THEN YOU CAN
HAVE TEACHED ME :-)

> so you will just have to go
> to the Warriors with Miloch and howl at nothing.

Miloch and I might get together, yet.

I am not giving up on Miloch.

> Michael Christ

Who is not a Christ nor the Christ and
so what is he? A DELUSIONAL CLOWN, BUFFOON,
WHO LOVES TO SPOUT BLATHER AT THIS GROUP
AND HAS YET TO PROVIDE A SINGLE ALTERNATIVE
IDEA REGARDING PROPHECIES IN THE HOLY BIBLE
WHICH IS THE THEME OF THIS GROUP AND SO IS
NOTHING MORE THAN A GRIEVOUS INTERLOPER
WHO REFUSES TO GET LOST AND GO AWAY.

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Is this like the chat-line guys who say
they have no diseases and are disease free,
because they are thinking about diseases
because they do have diseases ????

Like the guy who says he does not tell lies,
because he does tell lies and quite often ????

Miloch

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In article <c9ecd6dd-725c-4b31...@googlegroups.com>, J. Abrams
says...
>
>Keep your British spelling out of our English. There are no U'S in color or
>honor nor fishes in the sea or people's on land.


You'll be happy to know, Abrams, that your prayer for the Warriors win on
Tuesday still had some 'mojo' left over!

Warriors beat the Jazz 115-104.

During your next confab with the Almighty, could you include a request for a pot
of gold for ole Miloch?...I'm running a little short this month.



go Warriors

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Madhu

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* "J. Abrams" <22d67f67-7f0e-48ff...@googlegroups.com> :
Wrote on Thu, 4 May 2017 08:35:09 -0700 (PDT):

| I wouldn't be surprised if both of you have read one or more of my
| books. Most of the points you have made are in them and I posted and
| published a lot of them before I had ever read or heard of anyone else
| making them.
|
| I doubt very much that Christ will return near 2033 because this
| belief is too well known and his coming around that time would be
| universally expected. And no surprise at all.

robnick's date is based on a 6000 year chronology starting from 3971
B.C. The webpage he posted has Jesus return on 2029 A.D itself, not (33
AD) + 2000 = 2033)

I do not understand where the 2033 in the Subject line comes from. The
subject line makes it look like he is instead suggesting a pre- or
mid-tribulation rapture and a post-tribulation return of Jesus.

| Do a simple search for the words trump and trumpet in the New
| Testament and you'll see that Jesus Christ will return on the Feast of
| Trumpets. It's also very possible that this will happen this year. You
| better hurry.

2029 is computed 6000 years from a creation date of 3971 B.C. But this
3971 date cannot be fixed with any certainty because of ambiguities on
length of co-regencies of Israels kings, the date assigned to solomon's
temple, etc. (see "six complications and calculations" by cogwriter on
his 6000 year page.) There is at least an uncertainty of 10 years
around the tentative start date of creation from which the 6000 years
are to be reckoned. Now if the start is reckoned from 3984 B.C., then
3984 + 2017 - 1 = 6000, which would be this year. Again I believe all
the signs and conditions have been fulfilled for 200 years. Any
tarrying is out of grace, and Heavens can pick the antichrist from a the
suitable candidates any time now and we can rapidly expect the
conclusion of events.

"What has to take place before Jesus comes again? The answer is
nothing. His return is imminent." --Charles F. Stanley (1932- )

---Madhu

Michael Christ

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On Friday, 5 May 2017 14:09:13 UTC+10, J. Abrams wrote:
> Keep your British spelling out of our English. There are no U'S in color or
> honor nor fishes in the sea or people's on land.

Then I suggest you get your own language instead of sucking the life out of ours like a parasite.

Or are you merely a colourless user riding on the benefits of our language and claiming glory for yourself?

Thank you.




Michael Christ

Michael Christ

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He is everything. If you don't know Him you don't know the Father.





>and
> JESUS WHISPERS ALL DAY LONG TO ME PERSONALLY
> and I AM SO SPECIAL and I AM HERE TO CALL
> ALL OF YOU DIRTY WORMS

That is inherent in your heart, that is why you raise up that spirit.



>AND TELL YOU HOW
> PERFECT AND GREAT I AM BECAUSE I GROVELLED
> PROPERLY TO GOD AND BEGGED GOD TO MAKE ME
> PERFECT IN SPIRIT AND THEN GOD DID SO AND
> SO NOW IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT I SAY OR DO
> BECAUSE THOSE ARE JUST WORKS OF THE FLESH.
>
> WE JUST DON'T HAVE INTEREST IN AN
> ERRONEOUS PSYCHO WHO REFUSES TO
> FOLLOW THE COMMAND OF JESUS TO
> WORSHIP HIS FATHER GOD -
> CANNOT SEEM TO GET HIMSELF TO
> GRADUATE FROM THE LESSER SON TO
> THE GREATER FATHER -

They are One Spirit.



> AND TO STOP CALLING HIMSELF
> CHRIST WHICH SELF-NAMING IS
> AGAINST THE COMMAND TO WALK
> AS CHRIST WALKED AND EVEN
> CHRIST HIMSELF NEVER
> NAMED HIMSELF CHRIST :-)


It's our family name, sorry. Every true Christian is in Christ Jesus. We are as He is in the world for we are like Him.



>
> > I know you as Ms 'Unable to Teach',
>
> WELL, TRUE THAT YOU CANNOT TEACH ME ANYTHING,
> AT LEAST IN REGARDS TO THE BIBLE AND THEOLOGY
> AND DOCTRINES, OR AT THE LEAST FOR THE PAST
> NEAR TWO YEARS. PERHAPS YOU WILL FINALLY SAY
> SOMETHING BIBLICALLY ACCURATE IN THESE REGARDS
> AND THAT I DID NOT KNOW ALREADY, THEN YOU CAN
> HAVE TEACHED ME :-)

You don't listen to the truth because it does not exalt you.



>
> > so you will just have to go
> > to the Warriors with Miloch and howl at nothing.
>
> Miloch and I might get together, yet.
>
> I am not giving up on Miloch.

That's nice.

You'll find Miloch down by the wharf throwing cooked pillocks into the water to feed the pillocks. He's expert at going around in circles.




> > Michael Christ
>
> Who is not a Christ nor the Christ and
> so what is he? A DELUSIONAL CLOWN, BUFFOON,
> WHO LOVES TO SPOUT BLATHER AT THIS GROUP
> AND HAS YET TO PROVIDE A SINGLE ALTERNATIVE
> IDEA REGARDING PROPHECIES IN THE HOLY BIBLE
> WHICH IS THE THEME OF THIS GROUP AND SO IS
> NOTHING MORE THAN A GRIEVOUS INTERLOPER
> WHO REFUSES TO GET LOST AND GO AWAY.

Yet it is you that is so unfulfilled.

Maybe one day you will learn to shut that incessant flapping foul spirited mouth and listen, otherwise you stay precisely where you are.



Michael Christ

J. Abrams

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Re
JESUS WHISPERS ALL DAY LONG TO ME PERSONALLY

That's Satan.

J. Abrams

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My mistake.

I forgot what a mistake it was to communicate with a viper.

Trump reading the Snake comes to mind.

DDF is an insane puppet of Satan and I still reply to her.

So, how low does that make MAC?

J. Abrams

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2029, 2033 or 3033.

Think what you will.

I think it's this year.

Michael Christ

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May 6, 2017, 9:38:44 PM5/6/17
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J. Abrams wrote:
> Keep your British spelling out of our English. There are no U'S in color or
> honor nor fishes in the sea or people's on land.

Michael Christ wrote:
>Then I suggest you get your own language instead of sucking the life out of >ours like a parasite.

>Or are you merely a colourless user riding on the benefits of our language and >claiming glory for yourself?

>Thank you.

That's a bit venomous, John Abrams.

:-). You're the viper.

You just don't like being corrected, or more accurately, shown to be wrong. DDF is easy because it is clearly seen she is off track; easy pickings for a big strong 'christian' hero like you.





Michael Christ

alukenic...@gmail.com

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May 6, 2017, 10:01:43 PM5/6/17
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On Sunday, February 19, 2012 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-5, martus wrote:
Idiot. He already came back. Look around. You're already in the Tribulation Moron.

http://2008rapture.bravehost.com

Luke Nichols, Witness to the Event

Madhu

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May 6, 2017, 10:43:48 PM5/6/17
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* Madhu <m31ss3v...@leonis4.robolove.meer.net> :
Wrote on Fri, 05 May 2017 14:29:58 +0530:

| * "J. Abrams" <22d67f67-7f0e-48ff...@googlegroups.com> :
| Wrote on Thu, 4 May 2017 08:35:09 -0700 (PDT):
|
| | I wouldn't be surprised if both of you have read one or more of my
| | books. Most of the points you have made are in them and I posted and
| | published a lot of them before I had ever read or heard of anyone
| | else making them.
| |
| | I doubt very much that Christ will return near 2033 because this
| | belief is too well known and his coming around that time would be
| | universally expected. And no surprise at all.
|
| robnick's date is based on a 6000 year chronology starting from 3971
| B.C. The webpage he posted has Jesus return on 2029 A.D itself, not
| (33 AD) + 2000 = 2033)
|
| I do not understand where the 2033 in the Subject line comes from.
| The subject line makes it look like he is instead suggesting a pre- or
| mid-tribulation rapture and a post-tribulation return of Jesus.
|

Oh that mystery is solved. The 2033 date in the subject line comes from
the article to which robnick was replying, robnick didn't write it.
That parent article isn't there on any free newsservers I can access..

robni...@gmail.com

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May 12, 2017, 11:58:48 AM5/12/17
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I'm RobNick here's my web pages:

https://guidetothebible.wordpress.com

General George

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May 12, 2017, 7:26:57 PM5/12/17
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On Thu, 4 May 2017 05:31:24 -0700 (PDT), robni...@gmail.com wrote:

|>Regarding Matthew 24:36 – “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

The Day of the Second Coming, when Jesus appears in red, when all eyes shall see
him, is not the day of the rapture. The day of rapture takes place after the
moon turns to blood, and there is a great earthquake that covers the whole
earth, and a nuclear war then breaks out in the middle east. The rapture takes
place before the great battle of Armageddon, because Jesus Christ will have to
appear and cut his work in righteousness short or nobody will get saved, and
when he comes he will make the earth livable again.

In other words, the last week of April 2023, the rapture takes place. But Jesus
Christ will not appear until after the battle of Armageddon, which is 40 days
long, and starts on May 1st, 2023, so the day and hour that Jesus Christ appears
on the Mount of Olives is only by the Father. It is either on June 11th or
12th, 2023. That is the best I can do, since the day and hour, cannot be known,
but it will be during the morning of the 11th or 12th.

According to Noah, God set a rainbow in the sky as a promise that he would never
come again in judgment against the earth, therefore, during the month in which
there is no rainbow seen in the sky, that is the month that Jesus comes in
judgement against the earth. Therefore, the month can be known.

Because the two witnesses have the power to shut the rains, and they shall rise
up 3 1/2 days after they are murdered, we can know the week which Jesus Christ
will appear on the Mount of Olives. However, this appears on the Mount of
Olives is a limited appearance, and the world will know the day of his
appearance, for it is revealed in the book of Revelation as being 3 1/2 days
after they murder the two witnesses.

If we take all the scriptures, it reveals several appearances of the Lord:

1) Suddenly come to his temple is one appearance, which is like a thief in the
night, only those a the temple shall see him, but this is not the Jerusalem
Temple, but the temple in Zion.
2) Lands on the Mount of Olives and apart the mountain in half, providing an
escape for the people. In this appearance we know it will take place 3 1/2
after the two witnesses have been murdered on the sunset of the 8th of June,
2023. It is the beginning of the 9th day to the Jews, and 3 1/2 days later on
the morning of the 12th of June, 2023, he appears on the Mount of Olives.
3) His coming in great glory, when all eyes shall see him, in this appearance
the day and hour is not known.
4) This appearance described by Prophet Daniel will take place at the coronation
of Jesus Christ, and will be attended by 100 million representatives of a 100
million earths in this Milky Way Galaxy. This appearance is by invitation only.
The world is invited to attend this coronation.

Therefore, the appearance 3 and 4 may be out of order, appearance #4 could take
place before appearance #3.

General George

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May 12, 2017, 7:33:57 PM5/12/17
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On Fri, 12 May 2017 18:26:56 -0500, General George <gen.g...@gmx.com> wrote:

corrections:

|>According to Noah, God set a rainbow in the sky as a promise that he would never
|>come again in judgment against the earth, therefore, during the month in which
|>there is no rainbow seen in the sky, that is the month that Jesus comes in
|>judgement against the earth. Therefore, the month can be known.
|>
|>Because the two witnesses have the power to shut the rains, and [because] they shall rise
|>up 3 1/2 days after they are murdered, we can know the [month of no rainbow and] week which Jesus Christ
|>will appear on the Mount of Olives. However, [his appearance] on the Mount of
|>Olives is a limited appearance, and the world will know the day of [that]
|>appearance, for it is revealed in the book of Revelation as being 3 1/2 days
|>after they murder the two witnesses [at sunset June 8th, 2023, which is the beginning of the nineth day.

bama...@gmail.com

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Feb 2, 2018, 2:14:53 PM2/2/18
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I don’t think so. The Bible says, " but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments." (Exodus 20:6) From Adam to now, I feel it’s less than 200 generations, maybe our Lord will come in about A.C. 24000.
https://faithask.com/t/do-you-think-jesus-will-come-again-this-year/185/2

wileyco...@gmail.com

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Apr 29, 2018, 9:13:52 PM4/29/18
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I have made a website about the year 2032. https://jesus2032.com

Debra Dee McQueen Freeman

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Apr 30, 2018, 4:10:16 AM4/30/18
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Keeping this current.

robni...@gmail.com

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May 30, 2018, 1:44:00 PM5/30/18
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