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Christ rose again THE THIRD DAY according to the scriptures

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Donna Kupp

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:08:01 PM1/3/10
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The apostle Paul said:

"For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how
that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he
was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to
the scriptures:" 1 Corinthians 15:3-4

"But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the
FIRSTFRUITS of them that slept. For since by man came death, by
man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die,
even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own
order: Christ THE FIRSTFRUITS; afterward they that are Christ's
at his coming." 1 Corinthians 15:20-23.

Mar 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first [day] of the
week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had
cast seven devils.

The word [day] was added by the translators.

According to Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament
Words:

SABBATON is used (a) in the ***plural*** in the phrase "the first
day of the week"

Let us see what happens if we omit the word [day] and translate
sabbaton in the ***plural***:

It would read: "the first of the weeks" [which is Nisan 16, THE
WAVE SHEAF OF FIRST FRUITS.]

Donna Kupp

Notes:

Nisan 16 is the "morrow after the sabbath" of Nisan 15. The Feast
Of Pentecost is seven weeks from Nisan 16. (Leviticus 23). Nisan
16 is not associated with a certain day of the week because it is
calculated from the appearance of the new moon!

dk

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RWKnapp

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:05:08 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 12:08 pm, Donna Kupp <dk...@charter.net> wrote:
> The apostle Paul said:
>
> "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how
> that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he
> was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to
> the scriptures:" 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
>
> "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the
> FIRSTFRUITS of them that slept. For since by man came death, by
> man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die,
> even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own
> order: Christ THE FIRSTFRUITS; afterward they that are Christ's
> at his coming." 1 Corinthians 15:20-23.
>
> Mar 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first [day] of the
> week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had
> cast seven devils.
>
> The word [day] was added by the translators.

So you now think the first is any day of the week. We know the
Sabbath then was on Saturday, and in all calendar even in the Chinese
calendar which is one to seven the first Sunday or it is Saturday, we
know it was not on the Jewish sabbath so there is no other name or day
than the first day. It is not about the first month or first year.


>
> According to Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament
> Words:
>
> SABBATON is used (a) in the ***plural*** in the phrase "the first
> day of the week"

It also means more then one day is the sabbath and we find even Monday
or Sunday or any other day that is seen as a HOLY DAY is also called
"Sabbath" now that is not what you want and you like to pick out of
the center of a teaching to make a false doctrine. Now here is more
on the first day and the sabbath day.
> A New Sabbath (Luke 6:1-11)

The sanctity of the seventh day was a distinctive part of the Jewish
faith. God gave Israel the Sabbath law at Sinai (Neh 9:13-14) and made
it a sign between Him and the nation (Ex 20:8-11; 31:12-17). The word
Sabbath means "rest" and is linked with God's cessation of work after
the six days of Creation (Gen 2:2-3). Some of the rabbis taught that
Messiah could not come until Israel had perfectly kept the Sabbath, so
obeying this law was very important both personally and nationally.

To call Sunday "the Sabbath" is to confuse the first day and the
seventh day and what each signifies. The Sabbath is a reminder of the
completion of "the old Creation," while the Lord's Day is a reminder
of our Lord's finished work in "the new Creation' (2 Cor 5:21; Eph
2:10; 4:24). The Sabbath speaks of rest after work and relates to the
Law, while the Lord's Day speaks of rest before work and relates to
grace. The Lord's Day commemorates the resurrection of Jesus Christ
from the dead as well as the coming of the Holy Spirit and the
"birthday" of the church (Acts 2).

The early church met on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor
16:1-2). However, some Jewish believers kept the Sabbath, and this
sometimes led to division. Paul addressed this problem in Rom
14:1-15:13 where he gave principles to promote both liberty and unity
in the church. But Paul always made it clear that observing special
days had nothing to do with salvation (Gal 4:1-11; Col 2:8-17). We are
not saved from sin by faith in Christ plus keeping the Sabbath. We are
saved by faith in Christ alone.
(from The Bible Exposition Commentary. Copyright © 1989 by Chariot
Victor Publishing, and imprint of Cook Communication Ministries. All
rights reserved. Used by permission.)

> Let us see what happens if we omit the word [day] and translate
> sabbaton in the ***plural***:
>
> It would read: "the first of the weeks" [which is Nisan 16, THE
> WAVE SHEAF OF FIRST FRUITS.]

Nope only in your mind. Now we have "weeks" that would apply only to
a month as there is no weeks, in week. You really need help as you
seem to very mixed up.
Now what has "NISAN" have to do with this? Nisan means "The seventh
month of the civil year; the first month of the ecclesiastic year (in
March and April)".

>
> Donna Kupp
>
> Notes:
>
> Nisan 16 is the "morrow after the sabbath" of Nisan 15. The Feast
> Of Pentecost is seven weeks from Nisan 16. (Leviticus 23). Nisan
> 16 is not associated with a certain day of the week because it is
> calculated from the appearance of the new moon!

The sabbath is not associated with a certain day either, it is a day
of rest, and comes on other days, then like Sunday only a few people
use the word first day of the week instead of the word Sunday. Also
Sunday is the day of service to the Lord, which in many churches are
on more then one day a week. Sunday, Wednesday and I been in services
on Friday and also Saturday in different churches. I am not sure what
you think you proved unless it is you just do not know what your
teaching and have little or no knowledge of the Hebrew or Greek
Languages.

Raymond

>
> dk

Donna Kupp

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Jan 3, 2010, 2:51:01 PM1/3/10
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se'nnight

Regarding Christ's Resurrection:

sabbaton, #4521, must be translated weeks because it is referring to
a se'nnight; i.e. the interval between two sabbaths pertaining to the
festival sabbaths.

The Jewish calendar is lunisolar; that is, the months are reckoned
according to the moon, and the year of twelve or thirteen months,
according to the sun.

The seventh day sabbath is according to the sun. It is from sunset
of the sixth day to sunset of the seventh day.

The festival sabbaths are according to the moon. The Festal year
begins with the new moon of Nisan.

Passover = Nisan 14

Feast of Unleavened Bread = Nisan 15. (No work was done on
Nisan 15)

Wave Sheaf of FIRSTFRUITS = Nisan 16

The apostle Paul said: "... Christ died for our sins according to the
scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third
day according to the scriptures:" 1 Corinthians 15:3-4

According to the scriptures, Christ arose from the dead on Nisan 16.

Donna Kupp

vince garcia

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:02:06 PM1/3/10
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Donna Kupp wrote:
>
> The apostle Paul said:
>
> "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how
> that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he
> was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to
> the scriptures:" 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
>
> "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the
> FIRSTFRUITS of them that slept. For since by man came death, by
> man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die,
> even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own
> order: Christ THE FIRSTFRUITS; afterward they that are Christ's
> at his coming." 1 Corinthians 15:20-23.
>
> Mar 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first [day] of the
> week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had
> cast seven devils.
>
> The word [day] was added by the translators.
>
> According to Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament
> Words:
>
> SABBATON is used (a) in the ***plural*** in the phrase "the first
> day of the week"

No it's not. It's pr�te sabbatou, which is singular, and means FIRST OF
THE SABBATH or WEEK (not WEEKS), which is why just about any Bible you
can find translates it as a singular, and not as you are trying to

That includes the RSV and Peshitta you were recently using because THEY
fit your agenda on a verse. But I guess they dosn't count here because
they disagree with your agenda, right?

Turban Joe Balasootoe

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:12:40 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 5:02 pm, vince garcia <vggarci...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Donna Kupp wrote:
>
> > The apostle Paul said:
>
> > "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how
> > that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he
> > was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to
> > the scriptures:" 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
>
> > "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the
> > FIRSTFRUITS of them that slept. For since by man came death, by
> > man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die,
> > even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own
> > order: Christ THE FIRSTFRUITS; afterward they that are Christ's
> > at his coming." 1 Corinthians 15:20-23.
>
> > Mar 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first [day] of the
> > week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had
> > cast seven devils.
>
> > The word [day] was added by the translators.
>
> > According to Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament
> > Words:
>
> > SABBATON is used (a) in the ***plural*** in the phrase "the first
> > day of the week"
>
> No it's not. It's prõte sabbatou, which is singular, and means FIRST OF

> THE SABBATH or WEEK (not WEEKS), which is why just about any Bible you
> can find translates it as a singular, and not as you are trying to
>
> That includes the RSV and Peshitta you were recently using because THEY
> fit your agenda on a verse. But I guess they dosn't count here because
> they disagree with your agenda, right?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


JC said: "I'm coming back, back, back, back, boliie, ollie-ack."

Mary Magdelene said to Him: "I wish You were comming."

Ike E 1/2/2010

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"Donna Kupp" <dk...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> The apostle Paul said:
>
> "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how
> that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he
> was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to
> the scriptures:" 1 Corinthians 15:3-4

Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

The THIRD DAY, moron.

Can't count either, I see.

Ike


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