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James R. Calvert

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Apr 4, 2001, 2:06:08 PM4/4/01
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TRUE DEFINITION OF SOCIALISM

First, a true definition of socialism: "Socialism is not a
share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate
and control the wealth .... Socialism is not a movement of the
downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite. Actually a clique of
Insiders in total control, consolidating and controlling all
wealth. In the reality of socialism you have a tiny oligarchial
clique at the top, usually numbering no more than three percent of
the total population, controlling the total wealth, total production
and the very lives of the other ninety-seven percent. It wants
control over all natural resources, business, banking and
transportation ... a monopoly which would eliminate all competitors
and destroy the free enterprise system" (Gary Allen, None Dare Call
It Conspiracy [Rossmoor, CA: Concord Press, 1971], pp. 33, 125, 13).

SOCIALISM IN PROPHECY

The inspiration for socialism is Satan, the god of this world's
economic system. He is pictured as the real king of ancient Babylon
and Tyre (Isa. 14:12-15; Ezek. 28:12-19), two of the ancient
world's greatest economic centers. And he will be the inspiration
behind the economic system pictured in Rev. 13:17, which will also
be a socialistic system seeking to consolidate and control all
wealth.

The Bible warns us against this satanic tendency to consolidate and
control wealth. Job 22:6-9, for example, addresses itself to the
crimes of the rich against the poor. Verse 8 says: "But the mighty
man possessed the land, and the honorable man [i.e., the 'accepted
of countenance' J.F.B., Com.] dwelt in it" (NKJV). The "mighty man"
of this verse is the individual who has "by degrees acquired the
territory far and wide for himself" (F. Delitzsch, Com.). In a
similar manner, Nehemiah had to rebuke the nobles and rulers of the
Jews for confiscating the property of their own countrymen through
usurious interest rates on mortgages (Neh. 5:1-13). The prophet
Isaiah also warns us against this satanic tendency to accumulate and
control wealth: "Woe to those who join house to house [NKJV, margin,
'accumulate houses']; who lay field to field, till there is no more
room, and ye alone are dwelling in the midst of the land" (Isa. 5:8,
NKJV, and F. Delitzsch, Com.). Commenting on Isa. 5:8, F. Delitzsch
says: "They, the insatiable, would not rest till, after every
smaller piece of landed property had been swallowed by them, the
whole land had come into their possession, and no one beside
themselves was settled in the land" (Commentary). Likewise, during
his exile in Babylon the prophet Ezekiel had seen such utter human
misery resulting from usury that he was inspired to describe usury
as a capital offense, a tow'ebah, a Hebrew word indicating the
highest degree of abomination (Ezek. 18:8, 13, 17).
The one world socialistic debt ruled superstate that the globalists
are attempting to establish is actually described in Habakkuk 2:3-6,
a vision that was to speak "at the end" (Hab. 2:3, NKJV). In this
vision, the latter day "Chaldeans, " or globalists, are attempting
to gather all nations together in a global debt net (compare Hab.
1:6, 15; 2:5-6, NASB). In a prophecy for the time immediately
preceding the day of the Lord, the prophet Malachi describes the
global corporate slave labor phenomenon of our day: "And I will come
near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against ...
those that oppress [margin, defraud] the hireling in his wages"
(Mal. 3:5). The apostle James describes this same end time
phenomenon: "Ye have heaped treasure together [SOCIALISM] for the
last days [THROUGH CORPORATE SLAVE LABOR]. Behold, the hire of the
labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept
back by fraud, crieth" (James 5:3, 4). Once again, a part of the
love of money which was to characterize the last days (2 Tim. 3:2),
a part of the overall consolidation and control of wealth known as
socialism.

THE TWO WAYS CONTRASTED

The God of the Bible is described as "the giving God" (James 1:5,
Amplified New Testament). To illustrate this fact, a great river
will flow continuously from the site of God's temple in Jerusalem
during the millennium, half toward the Dead Sea, and half toward the
Mediterranean (Zech. 14:8; Joel 3:18). The waters from this
life-giving river will "heal" the waters of the Dead Sea (Ezek.
47:8), which will then be able to support life. The waters from
this river will also give abundant life to the barren places through
which they flow (Ezek. 47:12).

If the Antichrist were to succeed in establishing a one world debt
ruled superstate with its headquarters located in Jerusalem during
the millennium--instead of there being a healing, life-giving river
flowing continuously outward to bless all nations with abundant
life--there would be instead a continuous "great sucking sound"
coming from that area, something analogous to a great black hole,
desiccating and laying the world waste through the consolidation and
control of all wealth.

The latter is a description of socialism in prophecy.

Larry Smith

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Apr 5, 2001, 12:23:10 AM4/5/01
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"James R. Calvert" <jame...@pacbell.com> wrote in message
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> TRUE DEFINITION OF SOCIALISM

You wouldn't know socialism if you stepped in it..

'Social security' is socialism.....as poor as it is, it is the only hope
for many to be able to retire and live decently.

Do you want to stop this, prophecy dude?


James R. Calvert

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Apr 5, 2001, 1:35:47 PM4/5/01
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Larry Smith wrote:

> "James R. Calvert" <jame...@pacbell.com> wrote in message
> news:3ACB6290...@pacbell.com...
> > TRUE DEFINITION OF SOCIALISM
>
> You wouldn't know socialism if you stepped in it..

I like your analogy of socialism's being something that one might "step
in." The 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto--as they have been forced
upon us by our Federal and State governments--really are a pile of
socialistic crap.


> 'Social security' is socialism.....as poor as it is, it is the only hope
> for many to be able to retire and live decently.

Anyone who believes that people can "retire and live decently" on social
security is either a psychotic or an idiot.


> Do you want to stop this, prophecy dude?

It is too late to stop anything because we have been under Communism too
long in this country. But if we really wanted to help the needy members of
our society, we would abolish the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, cancel the
national debt, and apply the hundreds of billions in annual interest
payments accordingly. We would also do away with the income tax, close our
borders, and bring back tariffs as a means of financing necessary government
expenditures. Let the corporate pigs take their factories out of the
country in their never ending quest for the least expensive slave labor, but
place the necessary tariffs on their imports.

Now there is not a snowball's chance in hell of any of this ever happening.
In fact, you can hear the squeal of the banking/ corporate plutocracy from
here to the other side of our galaxy at the mere suggestion of any these
ideas.

Larry Smith

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Apr 5, 2001, 7:54:06 PM4/5/01
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Communist idealogy, and socialism have little to do with each.
America is not under communism at all, and I assume you are writing
from the USA.
The government seems to be authoritarian to the close observer, but
it is not communistic authoritarianism. It may be worse.
Social security, as poor as it is, is as good as many people will EVER
have. It is socialism. It is not communism. The USSR was a mixture
of socialism and communism, which varied over the years.

Jesus would have been viewed as a socialist. Think about it.


Scott

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Apr 5, 2001, 10:01:50 PM4/5/01
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Larry Smith <lar...@online.no> wrote in message

> 'Social security' is socialism.....as poor as it is, it is
the only hope
> for many to be able to retire and live decently.

What a low opinion you have of your fellow citizen, and what
a high opinion you have of the State.

You have been well indoctrinated if you believe that its
security when the state confiscates your money under the
guise of saving it for you, then spends it all and leaves
IOU's to be collected by holding a gun to the head of
posterity and taking 80% of their earnings earn to pay you
your pittance.

If there is justice in this world, posterity will elect
more honest representatives and say say screw you ya mangy
bastard for attempting to steal their money while they were
defenseless. And if you're lucky, they will let you sleep
ragged and cold under their bridges, and eat their garbage
and spit on you with the same contempt you have shown for
them.


Scott

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Apr 5, 2001, 10:34:56 PM4/5/01
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Larry Smith <lar...@online.no> wrote >

> Jesus would have been viewed as a socialist. Think about
it.

Nah , only a brainwashed socialist would think that. Jesus
understood the difference between the will of the Father and
the will of the State. Sadly a socialists doesn't
understand the difference at all.

The socialists will often try this ploy of cloaking his
system in righteousness by claiming that it's a Godly thing
though, just like satan did with his apple in Eden. And
like satan, his socialists children also use the human
weaknesses of jealousy and greed in attempting to attempt to
make people feel like victims. They sell their apple to
those who covet things that rightfully belongs to others.

The only thing Biblical about socialism, or its cousin
communism, is that the Bible warns us against it when it
warns of the consequences of worshiping other men instead of
God.


James R. Calvert

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Apr 6, 2001, 12:14:33 AM4/6/01
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Larry Smith wrote:

> Communist idealogy, and socialism have little to do with each.
> America is not under communism at all, and I assume you are writing
> from the USA.

A communist is nothing but a socialist in a hurry. Either system is
authoritarian, monopolistic, and stifling.

Concerning America's being under Communism, it is extremely difficult to
define our present economic and political system. I think that Texe
Marrs' term "CommuNazi," or LaRouche's "Nazi-Communist synarchist
international," are close to a true definition. We already have Karl
Marx's income tax, property tax, central bank, and public education; but
we also seem to have the corporate state of Nazism. It is a CommuNazi
corporate state masquerading as a "democracy." It is anything but the
limited constitutional republic that was established by the founding
fathers.


> The government seems to be authoritarian to the close observer, but
> it is not communistic authoritarianism. It may be worse.

The only difference is that under the former U.S.S.R. there was an open
dictatorship by a party elite. Under our CommuNazi corporate state we
have a secret dictatorship by a plutocractic elite through their puppet
bought-and-paid-for politicians. Many of the politicians circulate
between the banking and corporate world and the political. There is a
pool from which our politicians are continuously drawn. Our system is
definitely authoritarian. Just stop paying your income or property taxes,
and the Bolsheviki will be all over you. Try to home school your
children. Etc.


> Social security, as poor as it is, is as good as many people will EVER
> have. It is socialism. It is not communism. The USSR was a mixture
> of socialism and communism, which varied over the years.
>
> Jesus would have been viewed as a socialist. Think about it.

The first-century church may have "had all things common" (Acts 2:44), but
this was a voluntary sharing of resources, not one dictated by the state.
Christ believe in a voluntary helping of the poor on the part of the
individual (Matt. 19:21), not in an involuntary, state-dictated sharing of
resources. Our system in involuntary.

Uniacke

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Apr 6, 2001, 12:25:16 AM4/6/01
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Scott <riks...@erols.com> wrote in message
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What are you complaining about. The poster is on-topic. He wrote that Social
Security is socialism and that is historical. Can you prove him wrong?
Can you deny that some can retire and live decently on a US Social Security
pension?
What do you want, preachers to run your government? I can well imagine the
mess some of those kooks would make.

>


Scott

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Apr 6, 2001, 11:24:02 PM4/6/01
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Uniacke <Unia...@ogre-faced.spiders.com> wrote in message
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Preachers running the government? Hell no, civil authority
does not belong in the hands of the church. Religion has to
be accepted freely, not through threats of violence with
guns and bars and even death. Those tools belong to the
state, under its' civil powers, and if the church has those
powers you always end up with witch hunts and crusades and
other abominations that are the antitheses of religion.

I have no argument that social security is one of the vile
tentacles of socialism either. I see socialism, and its
hyper cousin communism, as being very close to a state run
religious systems where the bureaucrat takes on godly powers
that allow his arbitraty will backed by civil power to be
forced down your throat.

When we see one rediculously expensive socialist program
after another, like SS and welfare and public education and
all the rest, fail dismally and then hear prople like the
poster cry that its the only hope we have, I get upset.
Maybe I was a little too belligerent, but If the only hope
we have is to enslave our children, then we need to quit
worshiping the state religion of socialism and take some
responsibility for ourselves. We neet to wake up and get
off of the easy road that takes us straight to hell.

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