Beer in Titanic??
ClaytonF_Gibbs
During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the characters
were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer. What beer did they use in
filming the movie?? Was this one of the beers that were carried on the
maiden voyage?? I know the director paid great attention to detail, so I
wouldn't be surprised if its the same brand/variety used in filming.
Clay
Jason and Melissa Nulton
Good question! I, too, noted the dark beer in that scene. Maybe Guinness -
very possible. At the time, it was very popular and widely available along
the west coast of England. I'd be interested to hear if they used something
we'd all know.
Jason
Jjerky wrote in message <19980304000...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>> About a month ago, I went on a tour of the Queen Mary in Long
Beach,
>CA. They had an exhibit on Titanic. The coolest part of the exhibit was
>items that have been found on the oceans floor. Besides old plates,
glasses,
>and menus, there was actual Bass beer bottles that were stored on the ship
for
>its maiden voyage. They didn't have lables on them.....don't even think
they
>had them back then......for what they used in the movie....I don't really
know
> Joshua
>
>
Jjerky
KCdgw
>>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the characters
>>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer. What beer did they use in
>>filming the movie??
I remember Bass had an ad some years ago that said their beer was used on the
Titanic.
Cheers,
KC
Those who know the truth are not equal to those who love it - Confucius.
S. David McKinstry
I posted your question in the alt.movies.titanic ng. If anyone can answer
the question it would be someone frequenting that group. We'll see...
Dave
ClaytonF_Gibbs wrote in message ...
>
>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the characters
>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer. What beer did they use in
Gary
ClaytonF_Gibbs wrote:
>
>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the >characters
>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer. What beer did they use in
>filming the movie?? Was this one of the beers that were carried on the
> maiden voyage?? I know the director paid great attention to detail, >so I wouldn't be surprised if its the same brand/variety used in >filming.
>
> Clay
Alcohol is almost never used on a movie set. Most likely, they used
tea, or some other liguid that would imitate the visual qualities of
beer. It looked to me to be a porter. I think it was too dark to be
the Bass Ale we have today. Maybe Bass brewed a porter back then. Also,
I would think the beer served in steerage would have come out of kegs.
I am cross posting to alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic. If anyone on
the net knows what was actually served, they will be found there.
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There was some sort of Bass product on the Titanic; I remember reading about
some cheesey tie-in advertisement Bass did a few years back about Tulloch
recovering Bass bottles from the wreckage.
Harbinger
Gary <GL...@Prodigy.net> wrote:
>ClaytonF_Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the >characters
>>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer.
>> Clay
>
> Maybe Bass brewed a porter back then. Also,
>I would think the beer served in steerage would have come out of kegs.
>I am cross posting to alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic. If anyone on
>the net knows what was actually served, they will be found there.
>
>Gary Lima
>GL...@Prodigy.net
Bass Ale has been around since the 1800's. Bass also had a trip
planned to the Titanic to try to remove some of the bottles. I don't
know if it ever happened or not.
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}
}Bass Ale has been around since the 1800's. Bass also had a trip
}planned to the Titanic to try to remove some of the bottles. I don't
}know if it ever happened or not.
}
To heck with salvaging coal from the Titanic. Can you
image what a bottle of beer from the Titanic would go
for today?
SCSA
The First and Last name in Beer, .... Guiness ....
Mitchell Holman wrote in message ...
Kevin Fitzsimons
In the Steerage Party scene, someone in the background is holding a Bass
bottle. The distinctive Bass Red Triangle trademark (world's first ever
registered trademark, BTW!) is clearly visible on the label.
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Gary wrote in message <34FDED...@Prodigy.net>...
>ClaytonF_Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the >characters
>>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer. What beer did they use in
>>filming the movie?? Was this one of the beers that were carried on the
>> maiden voyage?? I know the director paid great attention to detail, >so
I wouldn't be surprised if its the same brand/variety used in >filming.
>>
>> Clay
>
>Alcohol is almost never used on a movie set. Most likely, they used
>tea, or some other liguid that would imitate the visual qualities of
>beer. It looked to me to be a porter. I think it was too dark to be
>the Bass Ale we have today. Maybe Bass brewed a porter back then. Also,
>I would think the beer served in steerage would have come out of kegs.
>I am cross posting to alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic. If anyone on
>the net knows what was actually served, they will be found there.
>
>
Chris Gilbert
SCSA wrote in message <6dmm2i$dbg$1...@news.gte.com>...
Yeah, I thought it was guinness too, my dad recons they would have had
bottled guinness around that time...
Mitchell Holman
Maybe. But they had bottled Bass before bottled
Guiness. And the current incarnation of Bass is not
guaranteed to be same variety of 1912
Ian Pepper
Clay and all,
The Titanic docked in Queenstown, Ireland (now Cobh in County Cork). One of
the people to visit the ship was the famous photographer Fr. Brown. Fr.
Brown's photographs on board the Titanic, along with his notes have recently
been published in a book called Fr. Brown's Titanic. One of the
photographs/text refers to the menu onboard ship on that day, and one of the
items on the menu is Bass Ale by the quart, pint or snipe (from memory).
HTH,
Ian
ianATaptestDOTie
ClaytonF_Gibbs wrote in message ...
>
S. David McKinstry
Ian Pepper wrote in message <6dp36n$22n$1...@news1.news.iol.ie>...
>Clay and all,
>
>The Titanic docked in Queenstown, Ireland (now Cobh in County Cork). One
of
>the people to visit the ship was the famous photographer Fr. Brown. Fr.
>Brown's photographs on board the Titanic, along with his notes have
recently
>been published in a book called Fr. Brown's Titanic. One of the
>photographs/text refers to the menu onboard ship on that day, and one of
the
>items on the menu is Bass Ale by the quart, pint or snipe (from memory).
>
>HTH,
>
>Ian
>ianATaptestDOTie
Okay, I'll bite. What's a "snipe" ?
Dave
Gary
Well, the porter v stout issue is a moot point as it turns out. Stout
is nothing but a strong porter developed by Guiness, sometime before the
'Titanic' sailed. From the limited research I have been able to do,
Bass Ale was never as dark as the beer depicted in the movie.
It stands to reason that the brew drunk from the pint glasses was poured
from kegs. My reasoning at this point it that they had bottled Bass, as
well a Guiness, or some other porter/stout in kegs.
SCSA
The beer in the Pint Glasses that you can see people drinking was Black in
color, with a dark creamy, frothy head. This makes it impossible to have
been Bass. Bass is an Ale, Amber color with a white head. I can't be sure it
was Guinness, but it was certainly a Stout. Also no self respecting Irishman
would be caught dead drinking a Bass :) Not to say there wasn't Bass
onboard.
Quote from www.baseale.com
The Titanic set sail on its maiden voyage with 12,000 bottles of Bass Ale on
board. As it was sinking, one rogue was overheard to yell "The Hell with the
woman and children, get the bloody Bass!"
Ian Pepper
Hi Dave,
A snipe is a measure of beer somewaht less than half an Imperial pint. I
think it may be a quarter pint. Guinness used to produce Invalid Stout in
snipe bottles.
ExeCamra
In article <6dpab9$2ap$1...@news1.news.iol.ie>, "Ian Pepper" <ian*@*aptest.ie>
writes:
>
>A snipe is a measure of beer somewaht less than half an Imperial pint. I
>think it may be a quarter pint. Guinness used to produce Invalid Stout in
>snipe bottles.
>
>
More likely a variation on a nip (third of a pint) I would have thought.
Sean Kelleher
Chairman, Exeter & East Devon CAMRA
Cider Manager, Great British Beer Festival
Des O'Donoghue
I suppose someone has to do this..
what's the difference between valid and invalid stout ?
Des.
Ian Pepper <ian*@*aptest.ie> wrote in article
<6dpab9$2ap$1...@news1.news.iol.ie>...
> Hi Dave,
>
> A snipe is a measure of beer somewaht less than half an Imperial pint. I
> think it may be a quarter pint. Guinness used to produce Invalid Stout
in
> snipe bottles.
>
John Morgan
Ian Pepper wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> A snipe is a measure of beer somewaht less than half an Imperial pint. I
> think it may be a quarter pint. Guinness used to produce Invalid Stout in
> snipe bottles.
>
> Ian
> ianATaptestDOTie
Is this the origin of the 'snipe hunt'?
Tom Pappas
> >>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the
>characters
> >>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer.
>
> >
> > Maybe Bass brewed a porter back then. Also,
> >I would think the beer served in steerage would have come out of kegs.
> >I am cross posting to alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic. If anyone on
> >the net knows what was actually served, they will be found there.
> >
>
> Bass Ale has been around since the 1800's. Bass also had a trip
> planned to the Titanic to try to remove some of the bottles. I don't
> know if it ever happened or not.
>
That (as Bill Gates says) is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. The
bottles would never have got past 200 feet intact, much less 12,480! The
pressure down there is 360 times atmospheric.
Tom Pappas {:ož http://home.att.net/~tompappas
"But this script can't sink!"
"She is made of irony, sir. I assure you, she can. And she will."
Gary
Tom Pappas wrote:
> > Bass Ale has been around since the 1800's. Bass also had a trip
> > planned to the Titanic to try to remove some of the bottles. I don't
> > know if it ever happened or not.
> >
> --
> That (as Bill Gates says) is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. The
> bottles would never have got past 200 feet intact, much less 12,480! The
> pressure down there is 360 times atmospheric.
I think that he means the empties.
Denise
I thought there were bottles of champagne and wine down there and more or less
intact. Why wouldn't bottles of beer survive if champagne did?
Denise
Tom Pappas wrote:
>
> > >>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the
> >characters
> > >>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer.
> >
> > >> Clay
> > >
> > > Maybe Bass brewed a porter back then. Also,
> > >I would think the beer served in steerage would have come out of kegs.
> > >I am cross posting to alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic. If anyone on
> > >the net knows what was actually served, they will be found there.
> > >
> > >Gary Lima
> >
> > Bass Ale has been around since the 1800's. Bass also had a trip
> > planned to the Titanic to try to remove some of the bottles. I don't
> > know if it ever happened or not.
> >
> --
> That (as Bill Gates says) is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. The
> bottles would never have got past 200 feet intact, much less 12,480! The
> pressure down there is 360 times atmospheric.
>
> Tom Pappas {:oş http://home.att.net/~tompappas
Mitchell Holman
In article <01bd49e0$c8d18c40$22a02bce@www>, "Tom Pappas" <TomPa...@AMworldnet.att.net> wrote:
}
}That (as Bill Gates says) is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. The
}bottles would never have got past 200 feet intact, much less 12,480! The
}pressure down there is 360 times atmospheric.
}
Please see the picture I am posting here of
the *intact* wine bottles in the Titanic debris
field.
Nathan Mates
In article <3501C3...@ButI.AmGetting>,
Denise <WayToo, Much...@My.Address> wrote:
>I thought there were bottles of champagne and wine down there and
>more or less intact. Why wouldn't bottles of beer survive if
>champagne did?
The bottle itself may have survived. The contents woulda mixed with
the seawater a long time ago with the water pressure so high. [Well,
if they had a *real* good seal at the top, it woulda broken the bottle
instead of the seal.]
Nathan Mates
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dgri...@theriver.com
Yes, bottles of champaign have been brough up intact. Remember, LIQUID
is incompressible [virtually]. The corks were pushed in about an inch,
according to the www.titanic-online.com page, and the near freezing
temperatures preserved the contents. One, if not more, of them have been
opened and consumed.
On Sat, 07 Mar 1998 15:59:03 -0600, Denise wrote:
>I thought there were bottles of champagne and wine down there and more or less
>intact. Why wouldn't bottles of beer survive if champagne did?
>
>Denise
>
>Tom Pappas wrote:
>>
>> > >>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the
>> >characters
>> > >>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer.
>> >
>> > >> Clay
>> > >
>> > > Maybe Bass brewed a porter back then. Also,
>> > >I would think the beer served in steerage would have come out of kegs.
>> > >I am cross posting to alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic. If anyone on
>> > >the net knows what was actually served, they will be found there.
>> > >
>> > >Gary Lima
>> >
>> > Bass Ale has been around since the 1800's. Bass also had a trip
>> > planned to the Titanic to try to remove some of the bottles. I don't
>> > know if it ever happened or not.
>> >
>> --
>> That (as Bill Gates says) is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. The
>> bottles would never have got past 200 feet intact, much less 12,480! The
>> pressure down there is 360 times atmospheric.
>>
>> Tom Pappas {:ož http://home.att.net/~tompappas
Denise
Tom Pappas wrote:
>
> Denise wrote:
>
> > I thought there were bottles of champagne and wine down there and more or less
> > intact. Why wouldn't bottles of beer survive if champagne did?
> >
> > Denise
> Well, the pressure of water at Titanic's depth is about 6,000 pounds per
> square inch. That's the weight of three mid-size automobiles pressing down
> on that champagne cork or beer bottle. Do you think either would support
> it?
Logically, no, I wouldn't expect them to tolerate such pressure, but I have seen
pics (Ballard's book, I think, but I returned everything to my dad and can't
verify) of champagne or wine bottles on the bottom, the corks pushed in a ways,
but the contents supposedly untouched by seawater.
Denise
Denise
Tom Pappas wrote:
>
> Mitchell Holman <ta2...@airmail.net> wrote in article
> <5233FE2E9E8F9FEE.EE5EA2E7...@library-proxy.airnews.ne
> t>...
> > }
> > }That (as Bill Gates says) is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. The
> > }bottles would never have got past 200 feet intact, much less 12,480! The
> > }pressure down there is 360 times atmospheric.
> > }
> > the *intact* wine bottles in the Titanic debris
> > field.
> >
> into it no problem before it got 100 feet down. The topic was beer bottles,
> which probably had a crown seal on them. The water pressure would either
> have to bypass the seal or break the bottle. In no case would there be
> anything resembling beer in the bottle.
That seems to answer my question anyway--the seal on the bottle changes the
effect of the pressure.
Denise
Jason and Melissa Nulton
Yeah, a beer pulled from the wreckage of a ship that sank 86 years ago would
be nice and salty. That is IF the pressure didn't squeeze the bottle into
oblivion because of the difference in pressure between the beer inside and
the seawater outside at 13,000 feet (almost three miles) deep. I don't know
how much an intact bottle from Titanic would go for today, but I know I
wouldn't want it. I read that beer expert Michael Jackson (not the freaky
kid-loving singer) was on hand when they brought some beers up from a
shipwreck in the English Channel or something a few years ago. It'd been
sitting at the bottom for quite a few years, and when they cracked it for a
taste, it was salty.
Jason
"Smack in the middle of the Great Beer Desert"
Sumter, SC
Chris Gilbert wrote in message <34ff3...@mapperley.innotts.co.uk>...
>
>SCSA wrote in message <6dmm2i$dbg$1...@news.gte.com>...
>>The First and Last name in Beer, .... Guiness ....
>>
>>
>>Mitchell Holman wrote in message ...
>>>In article <34fe9c11...@news.mindspring.com>, hang...@area51.com
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>}
>>>}Bass Ale has been around since the 1800's. Bass also had a trip
>>>}planned to the Titanic to try to remove some of the bottles. I don't
>>>}know if it ever happened or not.
>>>}
>>>
Jason and Melissa Nulton
Please post again! I wanna see, and the pic is not attached.
Jason
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>In article <01bd49e0$c8d18c40$22a02bce@www>, "Tom Pappas"
<TomPa...@AMworldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>}
Tom Pappas
Denise <"IKnowThisIs Rude"@ButI.AmGetting> wrote in article
<3501C3...@ButI.AmGetting>...
> I thought there were bottles of champagne and wine down there and more or
less
> intact. Why wouldn't bottles of beer survive if champagne did?
>
> Denise
--
Well, the pressure of water at Titanic's depth is about 6,000 pounds per
square inch. That's the weight of three mid-size automobiles pressing down
on that champagne cork or beer bottle. Do you think either would support
it?
Tom Pappas {:ož http://home.att.net/~tompappas
Tom Pappas
Mitchell Holman <ta2...@airmail.net> wrote in article
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> }
> }That (as Bill Gates says) is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. The
> }bottles would never have got past 200 feet intact, much less 12,480! The
> }pressure down there is 360 times atmospheric.
> }
> Please see the picture I am posting here of
> the *intact* wine bottles in the Titanic debris
> field.
>
Of course a wine bottle would be intact. The pressure would drive the cork
into it no problem before it got 100 feet down. The topic was beer bottles,
which probably had a crown seal on them. The water pressure would either
have to bypass the seal or break the bottle. In no case would there be
anything resembling beer in the bottle.
--
Tom Pappas
> > > I thought there were bottles of champagne and wine down there and
more or less
> > > intact. Why wouldn't bottles of beer survive if champagne did?
> > Well, the pressure of water at Titanic's depth is about 6,000 pounds
per
> > square inch. That's the weight of three mid-size automobiles pressing
down
> > on that champagne cork or beer bottle. Do you think either would
support
> > it?
>
have seen
> pics (Ballard's book, I think, but I returned everything to my dad and
can't
> verify) of champagne or wine bottles on the bottom, the corks pushed in a
ways,
> but the contents supposedly untouched by seawater.
Oh, come on now. The hydrostatic pressure obviously pushed the cork in far
enough that the water could squeeze inside. If it hadn't, the bottle (AND
the cork) would have to be stronger than the 9" thick view port on the
submersible that Ballard took the picture with. Logically.
ExeCamra
In article <35021D...@ButI.AmGetting>, Denise <"IKnowThisIs
Rude"@ButI.AmGetting> writes:
>> Of course a wine bottle would be intact. The pressure would drive the cork
>> into it no problem before it got 100 feet down. The topic was beer bottles,
>> which probably had a crown seal on them. The water pressure would either
>> have to bypass the seal or break the bottle. In no case would there be
>> anything resembling beer in the bottle.
>
>
>That seems to answer my question anyway--the seal on the bottle changes the
>effect of the pressure.
>
Are you sure the beers would have been crown corked?
When was the crown cork invented?
Certainly corked and screw stopped beer bottles were still very common
before then.
Scott Bell
Oh, screw it. Here's the pic. It was taken on the Queen Mary of the
Titanic Expedition Exhibit. It was very dark inside, so the pic is kinda
dark and grainy (not to mention it was taken with a Sony Mavica digicam).
Scott
noe...@earthlink.net
Harbinger wrote in message <34fe9c11...@news.mindspring.com>...
>Gary <GL...@Prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>>ClaytonF_Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>During various scenes in the recent movie Titanic, many of the
>characters
>>>were seen drinking a very dark brewed beer.
>
>>> Clay
>>
>> Maybe Bass brewed a porter back then. Also,
>>I would think the beer served in steerage would have come out of kegs.
>>I am cross posting to alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic. If anyone on
>>the net knows what was actually served, they will be found there.
>>
>>Gary Lima
>>GL...@Prodigy.net
>
>Bass Ale has been around since the 1800's. Bass also had a trip
>planned to the Titanic to try to remove some of the bottles. I don't
>know if it ever happened or not.
>
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Scott Bell
If anyone's interested, I took a picture of the Bass bottles recovered from
the wreckage. Let me know and I'll post it.
Joe G
Re:
:::Yes, bottles of champaign have been brough up intact. Remember,
LIQUID is ::::incompressible [virtually]. The corks were pushed in about
an inch, according to the :::www.titanic-online.com page, and the near
freezing
::::temperatures preserved the contents. One, if not more, of them have
been
::::opened and consumed.
Why were these un-opened bottles not saved??.......The idea of
preserving an unopened bottle from the Titanic seems so logical......any
comments??
thanks,
JOE
Tom Pappas
> :::Yes, bottles of champaign have been brough up intact. Remember,
> LIQUID is ::::incompressible [virtually]. The corks were pushed in about
> an inch, according to the :::www.titanic-online.com page, and the near
> freezing
> ::::temperatures preserved the contents. One, if not more, of them have
> been
> ::::opened and consumed.
Champagne, yes. Wine, yes. Beer, I doubt it (unless it was corked).
Angela Connell
None of the bottles had intact contents... The contents of all of them had
been infiltrated by seawater.
Source: somewhere on the discovery site (the diary of the salvage of the
'big piece.
Tom Pappas wrote in message <01bd4ace$9e25aeb0$22a02bce@www>...
Mitchell Holman
In article <6dt767$o...@suriname.earthlink.net>, "Jason and Melissa Nulton" <toos...@earthlink.net> wrote:
}Please post again! I wanna see, and the pic is not attached.
}
}> Please see the picture I am posting here of
Mitchell Holman
showed up (at least on my newreader), so I am reposting
it to the binaries.misc group.
Christopher Hall
"Kevin Fitzsimons" <k.fitz...@kudos.co.uk> wrote:
>In the Steerage Party scene, someone in the background is holding a Bass
>bottle. The distinctive Bass Red Triangle trademark (world's first ever
>registered trademark, BTW!) is clearly visible on the label.
...snip...
What they were drinking looked like Newcastle Brown Ale, although on
the movie set it was probably cola or root beer - it had to look like
beer but would have had to be non-alcoholic. Anyway, it had that
dark-but-translucent look of Newcastle Brown but just to make sure, I
will go and get a couple of bottles and have a better look.
Chris.
(opinions are my own, not necessarily those of my employer)
Please remove the anti-spam measure from the return address.
The Submarine Captain
Hey, I'm afraid you got it wrong concerning Newcastle Brown on board of the
Titanic. The dog was first brewed in the thirties (was it 1934 ?) and
therefore couldn't have been drunk on that particular ship. Bass could have
been, and is one of the few surviving brands from the time. One might assume
beer was embarked in casks for the lower classes, ans in bottles for first
class.
I therefore think the beer drunk on the titanic in the greater quantities
might darn well have vanished in some breweries merger during the century.
I agree about the liquid on the set being some unalcoholic stuff (malt
extract diluted in mineral water, maybe ?). Anyway, it was great seeing such
stuff in the glasses, something which at least looked like the beer of the
time...
Cheers !
Laurent
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Christopher Hall
The Submarine Captain <laurent...@bluewin.ch> wrote:
>Hey, I'm afraid you got it wrong concerning Newcastle Brown on board of the
>Titanic. The dog was first brewed in the thirties (was it 1934 ?) and
>therefore couldn't have been drunk on that particular ship. Bass could have
>been, and is one of the few surviving brands from the time. One might assume
>beer was embarked in casks for the lower classes, ans in bottles for first
>class.
...snip...
Yes, it does say on the bottles of Newcastle Brown that it was first
brewed in 1934, but I didn't really suggest that it was actually drunk
on the ship in 1912.
It would seem likely that the company would have sourced all
consumables from a local victualler, who would in turn bought wines,
beers and spirits from a range of suppliers. Other possible brewers in
the area would have been Strongs of Romsey (You're now entering Strong
Country), Gales of Horndean, Brickwoods of Portsmouth (Taste the Sun
go down), or further afield Hall and Woodhouse (Badger), Hunstman,
Mew-Langton and so on. We know that Bass was supplied - our local
Tesco have Bass original in pint bottles at the moment, I stocked up
at the weekend!
Chris %)
Mitchell Holman
In article <6epkct$39j$1...@news.mhv.net>, "cffrost" <cff...@hotmail.com> wrote:
}
}Several people agree that Bass Ale was served, what about the stout?
}Guiness?
}
Is there any other?
Besides, they *did* make that all-important stop in
Ireland before proceeding west........
Stormey
According to a web page dealing with looting...er...I mean salvaging the
Titanic, Bass bottles have been recovered.
Christopher Hall wrote in message <6ejpu7$h...@bbcnews.rd.bbc.co.uk>...
>"Kevin Fitzsimons" <k.fitz...@kudos.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In the Steerage Party scene, someone in the background is holding a Bass
>>bottle. The distinctive Bass Red Triangle trademark (world's first ever
>>registered trademark, BTW!) is clearly visible on the label.
>
>...snip...
>
>What they were drinking looked like Newcastle Brown Ale, although on
>the movie set it was probably cola or root beer - it had to look like
>beer but would have had to be non-alcoholic. Anyway, it had that
>dark-but-translucent look of Newcastle Brown but just to make sure, I
>will go and get a couple of bottles and have a better look.
>
>Chris.
>
Gary
This discussion of Bass v Guiness, has made me recall those old Reeses
Peanut butter Cup commercials. Imagine it:
Exterior shot of the Titanic steaming ahead.
Shot of two steerage passengers who have obviously had a few to many,
one is drinking Guiness Stout, the other Bass Ale.
Exterior shot of the ship grazing the iceberg.
The two passengers are rocked, and thrown into each other.
ALE DRINKER
Hey, you got Guiness in my Bass.
STOUT DRINKER
Hey, you got Bass in my Guiness.
ALE DRINKER
Tastes good!
STOUT DRINKER
Good? It tastes great!
ANNOUNCER
Two great tastes that taste great together Black & Tan.
Who knows? Maybe the drink was invented due to an accident.
Denise
LOL!
Robert Smith
Yes, but didn't they stop near Cork City, where Murphy's Stout is brewed?
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