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Jim Gass

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Sep 22, 2000, 12:53:52 AM9/22/00
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I will be turning 21 soon and am going to try beer for the first time. I
dont care about price, but i want my first beer to be good. The advice I
have so far is to stay away from: Budweiser, Bud Light, Natural Light.
I've been told that Icehouse is okay, Coors is good, and Heineken is good.
I dont care where its from, Domestic or Imported, though the general
impression that I have is that Imported is better. And I dont want any
watered down Light crap. Thanks a bunch and let me know what your favorite
beer is, and why.

Jim


andrew james martin

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Sep 22, 2000, 1:05:57 AM9/22/00
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hey in my opinion bud light and miller light are the best. especially out
of a bottle. keystone and even naty light are good for their price. if
you want to do it up right, get a keg of anything for your birthday. they
all taste good. if you are looking to get tore up get a keg of icehouse
since it has a higher alcohol content than most domestics. have fun

DonS

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Sep 22, 2000, 1:53:31 AM9/22/00
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:53:52 -0400, "Jim Gass" <jga...@utk.edu> wrote:

>I will be turning 21 soon and am going to try beer for the first time. I
>dont care about price, but i want my first beer to be good.

Why don't you try a couple of different beers and taste them
side by side? Buy something bland like Budweiser, and spend
a bit of coin for a German beer like Bitburger, and compare
them side-by-side. Take the time to educate yourself a bit
first!

Or get adventuresome and scarf up a beer like Fuller's ESB
and compare it to a craft ale from your region.

Of course, without mentioning where you live, it's hard to
steer you to a good place for that first brew.
--

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Tjander Nathoeni

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Sep 22, 2000, 2:53:21 AM9/22/00
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Jim Gass wrote:

> I will be turning 21 soon and am going to try beer for the first time. I
> dont care about price, but i want my first beer to be good.

I share DonS's point of view: Get a few beers and sample them side by side.
His advice to educate yourself a bit is probably a good one but I didn't find
that neccesary when I started drinking.

The advice I like to give you is: take a beer encyclopedia and read about the
differt beers and their taste. Look for elements that you like. Once you
determined
what is about your taste go and get a few of the beers that seem nice to you.
There are far to many beers to go in a beershop unprepared a come out wih
something you like. Although I might think Dogbolter is ranked amongst the
best
beers in the world, some friends think you could better use it to clean sewer
pipes.
Once you're a bit used to beer, try other sorts, make an adventure of
discovering
the beer-world. Try and taste extremities, i found that usefull to find a beer
for
almost every day there is.

The Quintessential Stage

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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Guinness!

Beer as God intended it to be, not a buncha piss-water.

As has been sometimes said, "once ya had black, y'ain't never goin' back!"

beefjerky

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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DonS wrote in message

>On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 "Jim Gass" <jga...@utk.edu> wrote:
>
>>I will be turning 21 soon and am going to try beer for the first time. I
>>dont care about price, but i want my first beer to be good.
>
>Why don't you try a couple of different beers and taste them
>side by side? Buy something bland like Budweiser, and spend
>a bit of coin for a German beer like Bitburger, and compare
>them side-by-side. Take the time to educate yourself a bit
>first!
>
>Or get adventuresome and scarf up a beer like Fuller's ESB
>and compare it to a craft ale from your region.
>
>Of course, without mentioning where you live, it's hard to
>steer you to a good place for that first brew.
>--

he says he's 21 and is trying beer for the first time!!!! the question is
very tough to answer. cause the flavor of a good quality taste is some-what
aquired, to jump right on a full flavored beer may bring mixed feelings. one
suggestion was guinness, but i tend to agree with Don in trying a Bitburger
or fuller ESB, then trying others till you find one you can fall in love
with. another good starter with high availability is Sam Adams. try their
Boston Stock Ale if you can find it, or the Boston Lager and if you like
them you can work your way through all the Sam Adams' without being
completely disappointed.

Beefjerky

Harry Spade

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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If you're going for one of the cheaper national brands, Miller Genuine Draft
is a pretty decent start. I would recommend, if possible, find a local
brewery/brewpub and try a lager/pilsener. They tend to have simpler flavors
and are easier to aquire a taste for, at least in my experience. Whatever
you do, get ripped and have a happy birthday!

Harry
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Joel Plutchak

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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DonS <dgs1300S...@teleportLOUSYSPAM.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:53:52 -0400, "Jim Gass" <jga...@utk.edu> wrote:

[Question about what to try as a first beer on his 21st birthday.]

>Of course, without mentioning where you live, it's hard to
>steer you to a good place for that first brew.

Might be Tennessee. In Knoxville (home of utk), head out
to the Leaf and Ale and pick up something from the New Knoxville
Brewing Company. I have no idea what they brew or how it tastes,
but it's nice to drink local brew and I suspect it'll taste
better than any of the megabrewery products originnaly mentioned.
(See <http://www.leafandale.com/beer.html> for a complete list
of beers they sell.)

Or better, give a call to the New Knoxville brewery and see if
they do tours. They'd most likely be proud to have your first
legal beer be one of theirs.
--
Joel Plutchak A land of meanness, sophistry and mist.
plutchak@[...] Each breeze from foggy mount and marshy plain
Dilutes with drivel every drizzly brain.
- Lord Byron

Peanut

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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Hi,
Have a trip in old Europe,
hundred & hundred beers here.
Belgian's beers are very interresting but probably too true for american
taste.
May be you could appreciate some basic german beers, several ligth one.
One of European beer that American feeling can appreciate is Heinkein.
European's beer's lovers feel it as "piss water" like Bud, Miller, Valstar
and other craps.
Now i'm gonna apreciate religiously a glass of "ORVAL" a beer made by monks.


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KJenkinsAF

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Sep 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/23/00
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If you can get it from Canada a bottle of Smithwicks is about as good as it
gets...better yet get it on draught. Hell take a road trip. Best of all go to
Ireland and order one.

Saad

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Sep 24, 2000, 2:12:01 AM9/24/00
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I second that! Guinness is what a real beer should be, don't waste your
time on piss water like Bud or Corona. Stay away from anything called Lite.
"People who drink lite beer, don't like beer they just like to pee"
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Lew Bryson

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Sep 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/24/00
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Peanut <Pea...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> Have a trip in old Europe,
> hundred & hundred beers here.
> Belgian's beers are very interresting but probably too true for
american
> taste.

Hey, grab me, Peanut. America's got hundreds and hundreds of breweries,
and they brew lots of different kinds of beers: pale ales, scotch ales,
india pale ales, schwarzbiers, doublebocks, dubbels and tripels,
barleywines, stout (imperial stouts, too), porters, pilsners, Duvel-like
ales... you name it, we brew it: we even import the cultures and brew
lambic-like beers. BECAUSE WE LIKE THEM ALL.

--
Lew Bryson
It's a fragmented world these days; You might as well pick up the
pieces.
Author of the UPDATED Pennsylvania Breweries, 2nd ed., available at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0811728986/qid=964395194/sr=1-2/1
03-7272174-3121415

Squishy Lamano

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Sep 25, 2000, 12:20:26 AM9/25/00
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Your first beer at 21? Are you brainwashed? Nobody waits till they have a
foot in the grave to have their first drink! You need a shot ASAP!

The flavor is an endless subject of controversy and you can't taste anything
once you're drunk anyway!

In article <8qeoos$6nj$1...@penn.dii.utk.edu>,

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Steve K

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Sep 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/28/00
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I think if a particular beer tastes good to yourself, then it
is a good beer no mater what name is on it.

That said, I don't much care for Bud and weak yellow homogenized
american wuss beers. That's merely my opinion. I will drink damnere
any beer depending on when and where and with who including Bud etc.
And it would be damn hard to put a #1 label on any beer. My father
in law would tell you Natural light is #1, and I'd say something like
North coast's Pranqster or Stone's smoked porter.
Try some quality beers first, before you try the big and cheap ones.

Steve K

Life is too short to drink shitty beer.


Joel Plutchak

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Sep 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/28/00
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Steve K <skol...@netscape.net> wrote:
>I think if a particular beer tastes good to yourself, then it
>is a good beer no mater what name is on it.

..and then...

>Life is too short to drink shitty beer.

Seems like the second statement would be meaningless given
the first.

I'm of the opinion that there is and can be bad and good
(and better and worse) in consumer items, regardless of
whether or not somebody likes the "bad" ones. For example,
if you took a round steak, slapped it on a grill, and charred
the bejebus out of it, it'd be bad even if somebody enjoyed
eating the resulting charcoal. Same with bad beer.
--
Joel Plutchak "One of the few moments of happiness a man knows in Australia
plutchak@[...] is that moment of meeting the eyes of another man over the
tops of two beer glasses." - Anonymous (by Bruce Chatwin)

digit digit

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Sep 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/28/00
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Orval - top choice. Had it once at the monestry where it's made, took some
home and hated it (didn,t travel well I suppose).
If they are available try the following: Londons Pride (Fullers), Tangle
Foot (Badger), Hens Tooth or Old Speckled Hen (Marston).
Guinness as a first drink......a bit risky, stout IS a bit thick (more like
a meal in a glass)!

Geoff

Peanut <Pea...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:8qgk9l$9or$1...@wanadoo.fr...
> Hi,
> Have a trip in old Europe,
> hundred & hundred beers here.
> Belgian's beers are very interresting but probably too true for american
> taste.

> May be you could appreciate some basic german beers, several ligth one.
> One of European beer that American feeling can appreciate is Heinkein.
> European's beer's lovers feel it as "piss water" like Bud, Miller, Valstar
> and other craps.
> Now i'm gonna apreciate religiously a glass of "ORVAL" a beer made by
monks.
>
>
> Jim Gass a écrit dans le message <8qeoos$6nj$1...@penn.dii.utk.edu>...

m miller

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Sep 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/29/00
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Schlitz, of course. Hoppy, frothy, and great anytime of day....Mmmm...


william shores

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Sep 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/30/00
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william shores

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Steven & Mari

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Oct 1, 2000, 10:09:05 PM10/1/00
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The best beer is not always free.  IMHO, you do not appreciate beer for taste, but mearly to get buzzed or drunk.  The best beer is the one that someone likes best.  My favorite doesn't have to be your favorite.  I would pass up a free Bud or Miller for a glass of water anyday.

Steve   ( BTW, whose favorite is Tupper's Hop Pocket Ale)

william shores wrote:

  After reading all the responces as to what is the best beer, I have
come to the conclusion that there are no real beer drinkers responding,
because as any real beer drinker knows the best kind of beer is FREE
beer.


Steven & Mari

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Oct 1, 2000, 10:09:17 PM10/1/00
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Stefan

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Oct 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/2/00
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Why don't you try one of the belgian beers: just a Stella or something or
maybe a little bit stronger: Duvel, Leffe, Chimay, Westmalle, Rochefort,...

My favorite one is Duvel, a blond one... but don't exagerate and be
carefull, otherwise you will not remember your anniversary.

More information about belgian beers, ask me.
Stefan,

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NJB

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Oct 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/4/00
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Hi,
"God that a Great Beer". That is what I say every time I drink a Sierra
Nevada Celebration Ale. My #1 beer.

NJB


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