"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy "
Andrew
of Ben Franklin's? I see it all the time, but I am not 100% convinced it's
real.
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Regards -
- Andrew
BenFr...@poorrichard'salmanac.com
> Can anyone supply a reference to the original source of this supposed quote
> of Ben Franklin's? I see it all the time, but I am not 100% convinced it's
> real.
>
>
Yeah, that was me.
Phil
Yeah, I was there when he said it.
Phil
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visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
Alexander D. Mitchell IV
"Andrew" <and...@jkl.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone supply a reference to the original source of this supposed
quote
> of Ben Franklin's? I see it all the time, but I am not 100% convinced
it's
> real.
>
five quotations dictionaries (Oxford, Bartlett's Familiar Quotations, etc.)
and a book of Franklin's lesser-known, less politically-correct essays
("Fart Proudly"), and came up empty. If I Google the expression, I come up
with every beer-buff's home page citing that quote.
Anyone got a trustworthy source for that quote?
BenFr...@poorrichard'salmanac.com
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:52:00 -0500,
> BenFranklin@PoorRichard'sAlmanac.com wrote:
>
>
>>Andrew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone supply a reference to the original source of this supposed quote
>>>of Ben Franklin's? I see it all the time, but I am not 100% convinced it's
>>>real.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yeah, that was me.
>
>
> Yeah, I was there when he said it.
Yes, Phil, I didn't know if you wanted me to mention you or not (knowing
you're a bit sensitive about your age...) BUT, since you've fessed up,
it's only fitting to give the COMPLETE quote:
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy,
particularly when Phil's buying!"
Phil
http://www.houseofquotes.com/authors/Benjamin_Franklin.htm
http://www.ushistory.org/franklin/quotable/quote74.htm
I told you, I was there when he said.
dgs
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:43:41 -0500, "Alexander D. Mitchell IV"
> <LNER447...@bcpl.net> wrote:
> [...]
>>
>>Anyone got a trustworthy source for that quote?
>>
>
> http://www.houseofquotes.com/authors/Benjamin_Franklin.htm
>
> http://www.ushistory.org/franklin/quotable/quote74.htm
>
> I told you, I was there when he said.
So, in other words, no. Thanks for playing. One of those sites
even has *two* versions of the same quote.
There is no evidence that Franklin originated the quote. "Poor
Richard's Almanack" was just a collection of common quotes - er,
"wisdom" - of the time. The beer quote could have come from just
about anyone.
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dgs
Andrew
> five quotations dictionaries (Oxford, Bartlett's Familiar Quotations,
> etc.)
> and a book of Franklin's lesser-known, less politically-correct essays
> ("Fart Proudly"), and came up empty. If I Google the expression, I come
> up
> with every beer-buff's home page citing that quote.
>
> Anyone got a trustworthy source for that quote?
(Ignoring the rediculous other comments from others that seem to think
they're funny except Alexander....)
Thanks Alexander! You see, when I tried to research it as well, I too came
up empty. I'm beginning to think this is an urban legend and he never said
it.
Alexander D. Mitchell IV
> >
>
>
> http://www.houseofquotes.com/authors/Benjamin_Franklin.htm
>
> http://www.ushistory.org/franklin/quotable/quote74.htm
>
> I told you, I was there when he said.
>
Such as a Franklin biography?
I second the "urban legend" speculation.
Bill Becker
"Alexander D. Mitchell IV" <LNER447...@bcpl.net> wrote in message
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and le jump from Belgium. ;^)
Best regards,
Bill
jessk...@lyc0s.c0m
>
> *More trustworthy than a web site or the word of an alt.beer wonk, please?
> Such as a Franklin biography?
>
Well, Franklin is mentioned several times in BREWED IN AMERICA by Baron
(1962) but the quote isn't there. DRINKING IN AMERICA by Lender/Martin
(1987) also has brief mention of BF and his spuce beer recipe, but no
quote. Ehret's 25 YEARS OF BREWING concentrates on NYC & area and skips
Philly and the other colonies. Schmidt's 1960 book TAVERNS OF YESTERDAY
discusses Philadelphia brewing without mentioning Franklin. WINES &
BEERS OF OLD NEW ENGLAND again mentions Franklin's spruce beer recipe
AND notes that it can be found in the 1958 book BENJAMIN FRANKLIN ON THE
ART OF EATING (which might have the quote?).
However, a UK book, THE BEER DRINKERS COMPANION contains this quote from
Ralph Waldo Emerson (a generation or two after Franklin, of course):
"God made yeast, as well as dough, and loves fermentation just as dearly
as he loves veetation."
jessk...@lyc0s.c0m
> "God made yeast, as well as dough, and loves fermentation just as dearly
> as he loves vegetation."
Correcting the typo above in "vegetation".
Looked through a bunch more of "older" beer books and, besides being
frustrated at the lack of a index in so many of them (100 YEARS OF
BREWING, Will Anderson's various books on beer, Weiner's TASTERS GUIDE
TO BEER (1977), Butcher's ALE & BEER A CURIOUS HISTORY, etc) I find that
Greg Smith's BEER (1995) has a page or so on Franklin, including a verse
he wrote about beer, but not THE quote.
QD Steve
quote
> of Ben Franklin's? I see it all the time, but I am not 100% convinced
it's
> real.
>
detailed explanantion of how this saying came about. From memory, Benjamin
Franklin never said that but did make reference to something similar in
regards to wine. Also, it wasn't said alone but was part of speech, I
believe, and should not be taken out of context.
Steve W.
Andrew
Will do Steve. If what you say is true in regards to wine (!), I'd love to
see what the original set of posts dealt with! Hard not to take the supposed
original sentence "Beer is living proof...." and relate that to anything
other than beer! Sounded pretty direct to me. I will google the archives.