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Archie

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Jun 27, 2001, 3:46:06 PM6/27/01
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Is there any good beer available in cans in the US? By good beer I am not
referring to Budwieser. Thank you.

Archie

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Don S

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Jun 27, 2001, 5:09:00 PM6/27/01
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Archie wrote:

> Is there any good beer available in cans in the US? By good beer I am not
> referring to Budwieser. Thank you.

Numerous British and Irish imports come in canned form, including
Guinness, Beamish, and Murphy's stouts, some nitrocanned pale ales
from the UK (although calling them "good beer" is stretching things
a bit, they're still more palatable than bland North American
Industrofizz Lager), and some others. If you like Heineken, it's
also around in canned form, as is Beck's. And now I've seen at
least one Pyramid beer in canned form in the Seattle area.
Turned out to be a contract brew, made and packaged in Canada,
but still preferable to NAIL. Portland Brewing's McTarnahans
Scottish Ale is also available in canned form.

Up in Canada - well, British Columbia, anyway - there are quite
a few craft brews and imports available in canned form, including
Pilsner Urquell, DAB lager, Holsten lagers, Granville Island ales,
Big Rock ales, and numerous others.
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DGS

Dr H

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Jun 27, 2001, 4:58:52 PM6/27/01
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Archie wrote:

}Is there any good beer available in cans in the US? By good beer I am not
}referring to Budwieser. Thank you.

The vast majority of canned beer in the US is in the American light lager
(ALL) style -- ie., like Budweiser. There are various imported canned
brews available here, some better than others: Heineken; Guinness Pub
Draft; Boddington's; Murphy's Irish Stout; and a few others.

Dr H

Lew Bryson

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Jul 8, 2001, 12:47:14 AM7/8/01
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"Archie" <thc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there any good beer available in cans in the US? By good beer I am not
> referring to Budwieser. Thank you.

Just found out that Capital Wisconsin Amber, a nice amber lager from Capital
Brewing of Madison, WI, is available in cans (as is their 1900, a pre-Pro
lager); it's not contract-brewed, either, they ship the beer to Point where
it is canned or bottled.

And yes, this means I'm back from my trip to the Midwest, and it ruled:
Woolwich Arms (ROSS!), Leinenkugel, walleye, Capital, Great Waters, stores
fulla Bells, New Glarus, Town Hall, and the Essen Haus.

My golden era of beer continues: this week, Friday the Firkinteenth at the
Grey Lodge Pub, Philly, with ten casks of real ale pouring (including a 7%
sticke from Heavyweight), followed by the NJ Guild of Brewers (or whatever
the fuck their name is, sorry guys, but it's late) Festival in Trenton on
Sunday.

--
Lew Bryson
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places and good sidewalks leading to them from every home, and did so for
the purpose of inhibiting the political processes of the society, we would
call it treason. Is the result any less negative without the intent?" -- Ray
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Hacky

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Jul 8, 2001, 5:03:59 AM7/8/01
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WTH would anyone *WANT* to drink beer out of a can? I don't get it.

Hacky

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Steve Jackson

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Jul 8, 2001, 12:42:33 PM7/8/01
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> WTH would anyone *WANT* to drink beer out of a can? I don't get it.
>

Because they're lighter and easier to carry around than bottles. Because
many public events that let you bring in your own food / beverages will
allow cans but not glass. Because places like ballparks, etc., won't sell
bottles, making it nearly impossible for good beer to even be offered at
ball games and so on.

It's pretty much a peculiarity to the States that can = bad. Probably
because of the fact that for so long nothing but bad beer was available in
cans. But good beer in cans is rather widespread throughout much of Europe.
Most of the good German breweries have their beer available in cans (few
things taste better than a nice Jever when you've been running around on a
warm day). I believe many of the decent (although probably not the best)
Brit beers can be purchased in cans. Hell, I think I've even seen Belgian
beers in cans, although the odds are pretty much dead-on that Rochefort
isn't running a canning line.

-Steve


sa...@monmouth.com

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Jul 8, 2001, 8:05:06 PM7/8/01
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Hacky wrote:

> WTH would anyone *WANT* to drink beer out of a can? I don't get it.

No one's suggested drinking beer OUT of the can, which is a terrrible way to
drink beer. But canned beer (like bottled beer) can be poured into a glass.

There's a whole lot of beers that comes in green bottles (and even a few in
clear glass) that I'd rather buy in cans, given the choice.

Lew Bryson

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Jul 9, 2001, 10:38:10 AM7/9/01
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"Hacky" <unli...@anti-spam.com> wrote in message news:3mV17.316327
> WTH would anyone *WANT* to drink beer out of a can? I don't get it.

Yeah, what them other guys said. Cans don't make lousy beer, but a lot of
so-so, iffy, and downright boring beer is in cans in the U.S.
But there's also some good stuff in cans: Guinness, Murphy's, Tetley's
(sneer all you like, nitro-haters, I think it's far better than the bland
Boddie's), the Capital beers I mentioned. Cans are actually a good idea:
light-opaque, no loose caps, lightweight (good for man-packing and easier
for the wholesaler to transport), compact, don't shatter, no extraneous
bottle-cap litter. And you can pour them in a glass. If I poured a identical
brand/batch bottled beer and a canned beer outside your sight and served
them up at the same temp, I would be amazed if you could tell the
difference. Amazed.

Chris Hughes

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Jul 10, 2001, 9:24:49 PM7/10/01
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Plus with cans you don't get that nasty glass aftertaste....

;-)


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Steve Dafoe

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Jul 12, 2001, 4:56:02 PM7/12/01
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Lew Bryson wrote:

> > My golden era of beer continues: this week, Friday the Firkinteenth at the
> > Grey Lodge Pub, Philly, with ten casks of real ale pouring (including a 7%
> > sticke from Heavyweight), followed by the NJ Guild of Brewers (or whatever
> > the fuck their name is, sorry guys, but it's late) Festival in Trenton on
> > Sunday.

Lew,

Do you have any recommendations or suggestion for particular beers to look for
at the Trenton show? I know Heavyweight's gonna have their "Stickenjab" but if
there's anything else of note, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

(For everyone) Also, I haven't been to a beer show like this (I usually avoid
crowds...)- what's the general atmosphere like, what other things are available
from the brewers (free items or sale items), can beer be bought to take home,
what other companies might be represented by booths, etc.


gin...@notme.com

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Jul 12, 2001, 6:29:07 PM7/12/01
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:56:02 -0400, Steve Dafoe <sa...@monmouth.com>
wrote:

>(For everyone) Also, I haven't been to a beer show like this (I
usually avoid
>crowds...)- what's the general atmosphere like, what other things are
available
>from the brewers (free items or sale items), can beer be bought to
take home,
>what other companies might be represented by booths, etc.
>
>

Well, the NJ Guild show is unusual for always happening on a Sunday.
Most other fests are Fri or Sat - realizing people are going to try
many, many beers and be too intoxicated to get up and go to work. That
and lack of public transportation hurts, although I heard ASN was
running a bus.
General atmosphere - you probably can't buy beer to take home. Brewers
will be selling shirts, hats and other trinkets, there might be
collectible stands selling vintage openers or coasters.
Maybe next year they'll have it on a Saturday & I'll go, can't afford
to miss a day's pay right now.
After the fest someone will have to tell me what the area around the
arena was like. I looked it up and saw there were hotels within
walking distance but wasn't sure of the neighborhood.
my .02
leo

Lew Bryson

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Jul 12, 2001, 9:58:18 PM7/12/01
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"Steve Dafoe" <sa...@monmouth.com> wrote in message

> Lew Bryson wrote:
> > > My golden era of beer continues: this week, Friday the Firkinteenth at
the
> > > Grey Lodge Pub, Philly, with ten casks of real ale pouring (including
a 7%
> > > sticke from Heavyweight), followed by the NJ Guild of Brewers (or
whatever
> > > the fuck their name is, sorry guys, but it's late) Festival in Trenton
on
> > > Sunday.

Hey, I forgot one: Royal Stumble II is taking place SATURDAY night at
Nodding Head (1516 Sansom St.) in Philly, a bizarre combination of beer
festival and 1950s professional wrestling. Gotta be seen to be believed!

> Lew,
>
> Do you have any recommendations or suggestion for particular beers to look
for
> at the Trenton show? I know Heavyweight's gonna have their "Stickenjab"
but if
> there's anything else of note, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

Unfortunately, I don't know much about what particular beers will be at the
show. I'm looking for stuff from Ramstein (all-wheat beer High Point
brewery), Ship Inn, Triumph, Long Valley, Flying Fish (always!), and Blue
Collar.

> (For everyone) Also, I haven't been to a beer show like this (I usually
avoid
> crowds...)- what's the general atmosphere like, what other things are
available
> from the brewers (free items or sale items), can beer be bought to take
home,
> what other companies might be represented by booths, etc.

Beer usually is not for sale, but doodads are: glassware, openers, shirts,
the like. Atmosphere is usually happy and loud.

gin...@notme.com

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Jul 16, 2001, 7:15:21 PM7/16/01
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:56:02 -0400, Steve Dafoe <sa...@monmouth.com>
wrote:

>Do you have any recommendations or suggestion for particular beers to


look for
>at the Trenton show? I know Heavyweight's gonna have their
"Stickenjab" but if
>there's anything else of note, I'd be interested in hearing about it.
>

So how was the fest?
leo

Lew Bryson

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Jul 16, 2001, 8:22:39 PM7/16/01
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<gin...@notme.com> wrote in message

Good fest. Fairly light attendance, which surprised me: nice setting
(air-conditioned), good food, good beer, some REALLY good beer: Trap Rock's
Saison (I heard good things about their IPA, but missed it), Triumph's
Coffee Stout, Long Valley's everything, Ship Inn's Best Bitter (first beer I
went back for seconds on), River Horse's Cream Ale, and Heavyweight's Two
Druids, Perkuno's Hammer, Lunacy, StickeNJAB, and a little keglet of
10-month-old (or so) Old Salty--we were mixing these beers like mad, and it
was great. Had an iffy schwarzbier from Gaslight, but otherwise no bad
beers.

Phil

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Jul 17, 2001, 6:49:31 AM7/17/01
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> > So how was the fest?
>
> Good fest. Fairly light attendance, which surprised me: nice setting
> (air-conditioned), good food, good beer, some REALLY good beer: Trap Rock's
> Saison (I heard good things about their IPA, but missed it), Triumph's
> Coffee Stout, Long Valley's everything, Ship Inn's Best Bitter (first beer I
> went back for seconds on), River Horse's Cream Ale, and Heavyweight's Two
> Druids, Perkuno's Hammer, Lunacy, StickeNJAB, and a little keglet of
> 10-month-old (or so) Old Salty--we were mixing these beers like mad, and it
> was great. Had an iffy schwarzbier from Gaslight, but otherwise no bad
> beers.

The air conditioning, I thought, was a great thing for a beer
festival. It kept things very pleasant (that and the short lines for
beer).

I probably drank more beer from Heavyweight and High Point than from
the rest combined. Perkuno's Hammer, IMHO, was the best in show,
though blending the Heavyweight beers was interesting. High Point's
Blonde Ale makes the perfect summer beer.

Long Valley's beers were quite good. Lazy Jake Porter was on tap as
well as their brown ale (my favorite of their beers).

There was a scotch ale there, but it was not good at all. I don't
want to embarrass the brewery by mentioning its name, but it wasn't
even close to a scotch ale.


Phil
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Lew Bryson

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Jul 17, 2001, 12:29:06 PM7/17/01
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"Phil" <dogg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> I probably drank more beer from Heavyweight and High Point than from
> the rest combined. Perkuno's Hammer, IMHO, was the best in show,
> though blending the Heavyweight beers was interesting. High Point's
> Blonde Ale makes the perfect summer beer.

How embarrassed I am! Not only did I forget to mention the excellent wheat
beers from High Point/Ramstein, I forgot to mention that I ran into Phil!
Unfortunately, it was at the end of the fest when we were getting kicked
out, and I was about to drive Bill Coleman and Warren (... whoops, forgot
your last name, Warren!) down into Philly for a little extra drinking.

gin...@notme.com

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Jul 17, 2001, 1:23:50 PM7/17/01
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:22:39 -0400, "Lew Bryson" <bee...@prodigy.net>
wrote:


>Good fest. Fairly light attendance, which surprised me: nice setting
>(air-conditioned), good food, good beer, some REALLY good beer:

thanks to everyone for the reviews. Maybe next year I'll be able to
afford taking off Monday or maybe they'll hold it on a Saturday. Looks
like I missed some good beers.
leo

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