Re: I want dark German lager
Holger Reuchlin
You wrote:
> It is better than Dutch ale.
In Germany you won't get Lager Beer. Try it with Export.
Best Regards
Holger
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Bastian
"Holger Reuchlin" <Holger.Reuchl...@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Hi Ben,
>
> You wrote:
> > It is better than Dutch ale.
>
> In Germany you won't get Lager Beer. Try it with Export.
>
> Best Regards
> Holger
Hello Holger,
just wondering: Where do you get all of your beer-wisdom? Of course you can
get Lager in Germany, at least I can!
Prost,
Bastian
Holger Reuchlin
You wrote:
> just wondering: Where do you get all of your beer-wisdom? Of course you can
> get Lager in Germany, at least I can!
>
And now tell the beer friends in the US where they can get your lager.
Holger
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Steve Jackson
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> And now tell the beer friends in the US where they can get your lager.
Um, at the thousands of stores and bars that sell German lagers?
-Steve
Holger Reuchlin
Then you can get more than we her in the Southern Germany. But I don't
miss it.
Holger
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Bastian
"Holger Reuchlin":
> Then you can get more than we her in the Southern Germany. But I don't
> miss it.
Hi NG,
I believe there is a misunderstanding here. Is not every bottom fermented
beer called Lager in the US? So what we call Pilsener, Helles and Dunkles
here in Germany is a Lager, isn't it? I believe many beers that Holger
mentions on his website http://www.bierguru.de are Lagers!
Please help me!
Prost,
Bastian
dgs
You are correct. Pilsner, Helles, Maerzen, Dunkles, Export, Bock,
Schwarzbier, Doppelbock, Ungespundetes Kellerbier ... all bottom-
fermented beers, thus all considered lagers, conditioned and served at
cool (or even cold) temperatures.
Altbier, Koelsch, Berliner Weisse, Weizenbier and Hefeweizen (and
Hefe-Weisse), Leipziger Gose ... all top-fermented, and thus are
considered ales. (Note that this is modern-day use of the terms; some
historical terms make a difference between "beer" and "ale," especially
in British usage, and then along comes "lager," which in British usage
is almost always a pale blond-colored beer, more or less based on
Pilsner lager.)
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dgs
Bastian
> Schwarzbier, Doppelbock, Ungespundetes Kellerbier ... all bottom-
> fermented beers, thus all considered lagers, conditioned and served at
> cool (or even cold) temperatures.
>
> Altbier, Koelsch, Berliner Weisse, Weizenbier and Hefeweizen (and
> Hefe-Weisse), Leipziger Gose ... all top-fermented, and thus are
> considered ales. (Note that this is modern-day use of the terms; some
> historical terms make a difference between "beer" and "ale," especially
> in British usage, and then along comes "lager," which in British usage
> is almost always a pale blond-colored beer, more or less based on
> Pilsner lager.)
> --
> dgs
Hi dgs,
thanks for your detailed answer. So it is easy for you in the US and for us
in good old Germany to get (dark) Lager nearly everywhere. I just wanted to
ask someone who calls himself the "Bierguru" wherefrom he takes all his
beer-wisdom.
Prost,
Bastian (who does not believe in gurus)
Steve Jackson
> Then you can get more than we her in the Southern Germany. But I don't
> miss it.
I really don't understand how you're not getting lager beer in southern
Germany. Depending on where you're at, there are these southern German
breweries I can think of just off the top of my head:
Spaten
Paulaner
Augustiner
Löwenbräu
Hofbräu München
Hofbräu Traunstein
Weltenburger
Fürstenburg
Allgäuer
Schlenkerla
Spezial
Ayinger
Andechs
As I said, just off the top of my head. Plus, there are plenty of national
brands that make it down that way: König, Warsteiner, Jever, Bitburger, all
pils beers, which are by definition lagers.
-Steve
Steve Jackson
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> I believe there is a misunderstanding here. Is not every bottom fermented
> beer called Lager in the US?
Genau.
> So what we call Pilsener, Helles and Dunkles
> here in Germany is a Lager, isn't it?
Yep.
> I believe many beers that Holger
> mentions on his website http://www.bierguru.de are Lagers!
So, in that case, what might he have in mind when he says he can't find
lagers?
-Steve
Braukuche
>lagers?
>
>-Steve
Maybe he was confused because typically they do not label lagers as such in
Germany? Buttwiper for example labels itself in part as a "lager beer" as do
several other brands, usually cheap ones. Whereas in Germany I have never seen
a beer labelled "lager" though of course many are.
--Dan E
Bastian
>
> Holger
Hello Holger,
you wrote: "In Germany you won't get Lager Beer." and I replied that this is
not true. I do not know where they can get Lager beer in the US and I did
not state that in my reply.
Bastian
Bastian
in
> Germany? Buttwiper for example labels itself in part as a "lager beer" as
do
> several other brands, usually cheap ones. Whereas in Germany I have never
seen
> a beer labelled "lager" though of course many are.
> --Dan E
Hi Dan,
there are a few beers nowadays who are labelled "Lager", for example Binding
Lager. In their advertises they are trying to give it an international
"flair" by calling it Lager. I think because many peole here liked the
Lagers they tasted in other countries. And the Binding brewery does well in
taking taste out of beer in this case ;-)
Prost,
Bastian
mister2u
>Schwarzbier, Doppelbock, Ungespundetes Kellerbier ... all bottom-
>fermented beers, thus all considered lagers, conditioned and served at
>cool (or even cold) temperatures.
>Altbier, Koelsch, Berliner Weisse, Weizenbier and Hefeweizen (and
>Hefe-Weisse), Leipziger Gose ... all top-fermented, and thus are
>considered
So Schneider Aventinus(a dopplebock) is a lager but Schneider Hefe-Weisse is an ale?
dgs
Schneider Aventinus is a *weizenbock.* Still a top-fermented wheat
beer, but with higher initial gravity and final alcohol content.
Not a lager.
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dgs
Lew Bryson
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No, and now you know why Aventinus gave the German lager brewers fits.
Aventinus is a strong wheat beer, and could have been labeled a
weizenstarkbier, I suppose, but Schneider wanted to call it a
doppelbock...just because. It's strong enough, but it's not a lager.
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