Best Whiskey ?
Eric Gene Price
I am hoping someone who reads this is versed in whiskey.
What is considered the "best whiskey"
A single malt Scotch ? - then which one ?
Irish whiskey ? - I've been told that it's triple distilled ?
I'm not a whiskey sampler, any and all help would be appreciated.
Thank You,
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will like it.
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Dr H
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Eric Gene Price wrote:
}I know this is a beer drinkers group.
}
}I am hoping someone who reads this is versed in whiskey.
}
}What is considered the "best whiskey"
}
}A single malt Scotch ? - then which one ?
}
}Irish whiskey ? - I've been told that it's triple distilled ?
}
}I'm not a whiskey sampler, any and all help would be appreciated.
}
}Thank You,
What's "best" depends on what *you* like. Scotch, Bourbon, Irish,
and rye are all pretty different animals.
Personally, I prefer Scotch; if find you do as well, check out
alt.drinks.scotch-whisky. There are hundreds of varieties of
Scotch, and the flavor variation is pretty wide. I like the really
smokey, peaty brands, so Laphroig 10-year old is my favorite. But
I've never turned up my nose at a shot of The Glenlevit, either. :-)
Dr H
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Lew Bryson
> I know this is a beer drinkers group.
>
> I am hoping someone who reads this is versed in whiskey.
>
> What is considered the "best whiskey"
Eric,
"Best" is an ugly concept for discussion. You'll have to go out and try
good examples of all kinds of whiskey/whisky to determine what
type--Scotch, bourbon, rye, Canadian, Tennessee, Irish--and what
sub-type--Scotch from Highland, Lowland, Campbeltown, Islay, islands;
bourbon that is more or less aged, made with rye or wheat--is YOUR
favorite. There are very few people who truly love more than two kinds
of whiskey/whisky. I love bourbon and rye, I'll drink Tennessee, and I
can handle Irish or Canadian, but Scotch just doesn't do a lot for me.
You've got to find your own way... much like beer.
Luckily, finding your own way is a hell of a lot of fun! Find a bar with
a good selection of booze and try a few. Good hunting!
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Eddy Hops
How?
How do people acquire a taste for Scotch? I can barely get it past my nose,
much less my palate.
Don't misunderstand, I can drink Appleton Special rum or Wild Turkey 101 (or
better) straight... but what in the world is the attraction to Scotch? I have
sampled some of the best, and I just don't get it (no, not Chivas or Dewars,
silly...;~)
John D.
Larry Littell
malt Scotch Whisky?
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Lew Bryson
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> If one prefers pure barley malt beer, why not the distilled
product-single
> malt Scotch Whisky?
Baffling, ain't it? De gustibus, Larry.
Besides, it's not really a purity issue here. I happen to like what corn
does in bourbon, and what those new charred oak barrels do. Corn isn't
an adjunct in bourbon, it's the real stuff.
The truly expert checkers player has a much greater appreciation of that
apparently simple game than does a fellow sitting by a pot-bellied stove
shoving pieces around. Likewise with bourbon: an apparently simple
spirit may have, upon deep examination, layer after layer of complexity.
Wine, after all, is just grapes.
DonS
>> Personally, I prefer Scotch;
>
>How?
>
>How do people acquire a taste for Scotch? I can barely get it past my nose,
>much less my palate.
Whereas I can enjoy a fair range of single-malts. Some of us like
those phenols, y'know?
>Don't misunderstand, I can drink Appleton Special rum or Wild Turkey 101 (or
>better) straight... but what in the world is the attraction to Scotch?
If you don't get it, you don't get it. Scotch ain't rum or bourbon.
It's a world unto its own. (Not that I have any problem with bourbon
in particular... Blanton's or a nice Hirsch 12 will do just fine,
thank you.)
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DonS
<llit...@maine.rr.com> wrote:
>If one prefers pure barley malt beer, why not the distilled product-single
>malt Scotch Whisky?
Apples and oranges. Scotch, particularly heavily-peated whisky,
is a fairly significant change from the unhopped beer it started out
as. Bourbon, while not pure barley malt, has sublime pleasures all
its own.
That's why (or why not).
FoxŁódĽ
>
>
> Irish whiskey ? - I've been told that it's triple distilled ?
As my prelecutors said it's seems there's no the one and only best one... I
like whiskey at all, specialy J.Daniels and Grant's, but also never say no
to Chivas Regal ;-)) It will depend _only_ on your taste what you will
consider as best - good luck in finding it out - it's a marvelous job! Have
fun!
regards
> Cogito, ergo sum.
Howk! :-)))
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> I am hoping someone who reads this is versed in whiskey.
> What is considered the "best whiskey"
> A single malt Scotch ? - then which one ?
Allow me to toss in my two cents.
'Best whiskey' is all a matter of taste ofcourse.
Personally I prefer single malt whisky, but a vatted or
blend can certainly be nice too.
My favs:
Single Malt:
- Bunnahabain (sp?) 12yr
- Bushmills 10yr
- GlenMorangie oak 12yr
- GlenLivet 12yr
Vatted:
- GlenTalloch single malts
Blends:
- Te Beag (pron. chey veck)
- GlenTalloch
Lew Bryson
> On 29 Nov 2000 18:31:17 GMT, eddy...@aol.com (Eddy Hops) wrote:
> >How do people acquire a taste for Scotch? I can barely get it past
my nose,
> >much less my palate.
>
> Whereas I can enjoy a fair range of single-malts. Some of us like
> those phenols, y'know?
It is all a matter of taste, and to declare one type or the other as
superior is to miss that important point.
> >Don't misunderstand, I can drink Appleton Special rum or Wild Turkey
101 (or
> >better) straight... but what in the world is the attraction to
Scotch?
>
> If you don't get it, you don't get it. Scotch ain't rum or bourbon.
> It's a world unto its own. (Not that I have any problem with bourbon
> in particular... Blanton's or a nice Hirsch 12 will do just fine,
> thank you.)
Don of course means the Hirsch 16, there being only the Hirsch 16 and 20
generally available on the market (there was a limited release of 18,
and an extremely limited bottling of 17 year old). But I have a small
selection of aged rum, I have a bottle of Scapa (the only malt I really
enjoyed after trying about 30), and I'm on the lookout for geneever.
It's like beer; there's MUCH more than just one kind.
Steve Jackson
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> > Personally, I prefer Scotch;
>
> How?
>
nose,
> much less my palate.
Probably in much the same way you developed your taste for bigger, bolder
beers. I doubt many of us could have gotten an Imperial stout or lambic past
our noses and down our throats back when we were weening ourselves from from
industrio-lager.
I don't know where my taste for Scotch came from . I gave it a shot again
one day after avoiding it for a few years and was very pleased. Some
Scotches are more aggressive than others, so perhaps starting on some of the
milder ones might be a good bet. I don't know enough about Scotch though to
recommend one. I don't even know where my current favorite, Lagavulin, falls
on the scale.
Oddly enough, I think my enjoyment of bourbon helped contribute to giving
Scotch another shot. If nothing else, once I discovered the complexity and
variety in bourbon, it encouraged me to give Scotch another shot.
-Steve
Current House Bourbon: Woodfield Reserve
>
> Don't misunderstand, I can drink Appleton Special rum or Wild Turkey 101
(or
Larry Littell
recommendations?
I just keep getting this image of Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies and
her jug o' corn squeezin's.
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> Larry Littell <llit...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > If one prefers pure barley malt beer, why not the distilled
> product-single
> > malt Scotch Whisky?
>
> Baffling, ain't it? De gustibus, Larry.
>
> Besides, it's not really a purity issue here. I happen to like what corn
> does in bourbon, and what those new charred oak barrels do. Corn isn't
> an adjunct in bourbon, it's the real stuff.
>
> The truly expert checkers player has a much greater appreciation of that
> apparently simple game than does a fellow sitting by a pot-bellied stove
> shoving pieces around. Likewise with bourbon: an apparently simple
> spirit may have, upon deep examination, layer after layer of complexity.
>
> Wine, after all, is just grapes.
>
Jeff Frane
>
>How do people acquire a taste for Scotch? I can barely get it past my nose,
>much less my palate.
>
>Don't misunderstand, I can drink Appleton Special rum or Wild Turkey 101 (or
>better) straight... but what in the world is the attraction to Scotch? I have
>sampled some of the best, and I just don't get it (no, not Chivas or Dewars,
>silly...;~)
>
Who says you need to? If'n you don't like it, you don't like it. Some
day, you may discover one you like, but there's no rush and no reason
why you should.
There are all sorts of distilled beverages that I don't care enough
for to drink. Scotch and bourbon and rye happen to be some I really do
like, and I encourage people to at least try them. If you tried Scotch
and didn't like it, fine and dandy.
Of course, saying you've tried Scotch... there's a lot of variety
among the single malts. And don't dismiss blends too fast -- Chivas is
damn fine whisky!
--Jeff Frane
Lew Bryson
> Well, I guess I'll just have to give them another chance. Any
> recommendations?
That's another one of the beautiful things about bourbon: it's not
insanely expensive. Guys talk about a $20 bottle being expensive. Heh.
So I'd say try a wide range. Definitely Wild Turkey 101 and Maker's
Mark, definitely Knob Creek and Baker's, definitely Weller's (the
Centennial is real nice) and Elijah Craig 12 YO. That's a good start,
and covers most of the distilleries, though not Buffalo Trace/Ancient
Age (too bad, great whiskey) or Barton's (oh well), because they don't
distribute too widely in the east.
> I just keep getting this image of Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies
and
> her jug o' corn squeezin's.
Add a barrel and 7 years of patience, and you've got it!
Dr H
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Lew Bryson wrote:
}Larry Littell <llit...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
}news:nwcV5.3693$0g.8...@newsr1.maine.rr.com...
}> If one prefers pure barley malt beer, why not the distilled
}> product-single malt Scotch Whisky?
}
}Baffling, ain't it? De gustibus, Larry.
}
}Besides, it's not really a purity issue here. I happen to like what corn
}does in bourbon, and what those new charred oak barrels do. Corn isn't
}an adjunct in bourbon, it's the real stuff.
Do you also drink lots of chicua?
}The truly expert checkers player has a much greater appreciation of that
}apparently simple game than does a fellow sitting by a pot-bellied stove
}shoving pieces around. Likewise with bourbon: an apparently simple
}spirit may have, upon deep examination, layer after layer of complexity.
}
}Wine, after all, is just grapes.
Heh. ;-)
Dr H
Dr H
On 29 Nov 2000, Eddy Hops wrote:
}> Personally, I prefer Scotch;
}
}How?
I started at an early age. ;-)
}How do people acquire a taste for Scotch? I can barely get it past my nose,
}much less my palate.
}
}Don't misunderstand, I can drink Appleton Special rum or Wild Turkey 101 (or
}better) straight... but what in the world is the attraction to Scotch? I have
}sampled some of the best, and I just don't get it (no, not Chivas or Dewars,
}silly...;~)
Seriously, for me it's the malt. Being a beer afficiando I love malt,
and Scotch is my way of getting malt with my hard liquor, too. I also
like Bourbon, but for me it pales next to Scotch. I'm prepared to grant
that, as with many things, it's an acquired taste. Even among Scotch
fanciers there are styles which require some work to appreciate (Laphroig
leaps to mind).
Not so different from beer, though. My experience with turning people
on to Lambics, for example, has been that most people either love it
or hate it right off. A few who weren't quite sure kept coming back
to try it again, and eventually came to appreciate it.
I have a friend who always used to describe Scotch as "liquid dust,"
and who, though he has given me a bottle every Xmas for years, would
never partake himself, preferring Bourbon. Last year he astonished
me by asking to be included in an informal single-malt tasting session
I put on, where he sampled several varieties and seemed to thoroughly
enjoy himself. Tastes -can- change.
Dr H
Dr H
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Steve Jackson wrote:
}"Eddy Hops" <eddy...@aol.com> wrote in message
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}> > Personally, I prefer Scotch;
}>
}> How?
}>
}> How do people acquire a taste for Scotch? I can barely get it past my
}nose,
}> much less my palate.
}
}Probably in much the same way you developed your taste for bigger, bolder
}beers. I doubt many of us could have gotten an Imperial stout or lambic past
}our noses and down our throats back when we were weening ourselves from from
}industrio-lager.
I could have, but I probably would have chugged it and missed most
of the flavor. ;-)
}I don't know where my taste for Scotch came from . I gave it a shot again
}one day after avoiding it for a few years and was very pleased. Some
}Scotches are more aggressive than others, so perhaps starting on some of the
}milder ones might be a good bet. I don't know enough about Scotch though to
}recommend one.
The MacCallen or The Glenlivet are *very* smooth and top notch malts;
one can keep coming back to these again and again with new appreciation.
}I don't even know where my current favorite, Lagavulin, falls
}on the scale.
That's one of the smokier malts which tend to be my favorites.
}Oddly enough, I think my enjoyment of bourbon helped contribute to giving
}Scotch another shot. If nothing else, once I discovered the complexity and
}variety in bourbon, it encouraged me to give Scotch another shot.
Shots are what it's about. :-)
Dr H
Lew Bryson
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> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Lew Bryson wrote:
> }Besides, it's not really a purity issue here. I happen to like what
corn
> }does in bourbon, and what those new charred oak barrels do. Corn
isn't
> }an adjunct in bourbon, it's the real stuff.
>
> Do you also drink lots of chicua?
Got any barrel-aged stuff?
Dwayne Conyers
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Jeff Frane <fran...@pcez.com> wrote:
>On 29 Nov 2000 18:31:17 GMT, eddy...@aol.com (Eddy Hops) wrote:
I lived in Edinburgh, Scotland for nearly five years, when I was in my
early to mid twenties. I had one or two drinks. ;->
Hands down the favorite bar single malts were, twenty years ago,
Glenmorangie (accent on either the second or third syllable, with
most people favoring the second) and The Glenlivet. I prefer the
former, but different people like different things.
Single malts were more expensive even then. If you couldn't afford 'em,
a popular choice was The Famous Grouse. This was particularly a good
buy for a small party. For a large party at which people were going to
be doing a great deal of indiscriminate drinking, Bell's was the bottle
of choice (and also the standard cheap bar brand in most of the bars
I stumbled into.)
If you can find it, Charles Muirhead's brand has a very high ratio of
malt to non-malt whiskey. The last time I saw this in the US was strangely
enough at an ABC (alcohol beverage control) shop in New Hampshire, off
one of the interstates coming down from Montreal, about twenty years
ago.
Probably the world authority on beer is also one of the world authorities
on whiskeys, namely Michael Jackson. (This is not the strange American
singer, but a big bellied English drinker and author.)
I hate to say it, but I think that single malts are now hideously overpriced.
Wait till the Bush recession gets going in a few months, and watch the
prices come down from the stratosphere. :-)
Here are a few to get you going:
(very peaty and smoky): Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Jura
(very smooth, brandy-like): The Macallan, Glenmorangie
(light): Glen Grant, Glengoyne
(interesting, a little peppery): Highland Park (from Orkney)
(classic): Glenfiddich, The Glenlivet
The best I ever had was an astonishing 115 proof UK (nearly 125 proof US)
Macdonald's Glencoe. Haven't seen it since 1980, more's the pity.
If any readers are in New York, I understand that a place called DBA's
(an acronym for "Doing Business As") has a marvellous selection of
malts. This is probably the best way to do it: go to a really good bar,
and bring twenty or thirty bucks to blow on four drinks over a couple
of hours, and decide what you like. Go with a couple of friends or
your significant other, and enjoy yourself. (Don't drive, take a taxi
or public transportation!) Take your time. Whiskey should never be drunk
quickly. Vodka, knock it back, a la russe, but sip the gold slowly.
Good (and smart) drinking to ya, slainte (pronounced in Scotland "slange")
David Derbes [lo...@midway.uchicago.edu]
>>
>>How do people acquire a taste for Scotch? I can barely get it past my nose,
>>much less my palate.
>>
>>Don't misunderstand, I can drink Appleton Special rum or Wild Turkey 101 (or
>>better) straight... but what in the world is the attraction to Scotch? I have
>>sampled some of the best, and I just don't get it (no, not Chivas or Dewars,
>>silly...;~)
>>
>
>
Daniel
glen woods wrote:
> Single Malt- The McCallan 12and 18 yrs.
> "Bruce Erickson" <bruce_e...@hc-sc.gc.ca> wrote in message
> news:3A240548...@hc-sc.gc.ca...
> > Single malt Scotch Whisky; the best is Cardhu in my opinion. Try it you
> > will like it.
> > The best is what you like not what someone tells you is good
> >
> > Eric Gene Price wrote:
> >
> > > I know this is a beer drinkers group.
> > >
> > > I am hoping someone who reads this is versed in whiskey.
> > >
> > > What is considered the "best whiskey"
> > >
> > > A single malt Scotch ? - then which one ?
> > >
> > > Irish whiskey ? - I've been told that it's triple distilled ?
> > >
> > > I'm not a whiskey sampler, any and all help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thank You,
> > >
T Dukes
one is best and we like both. Both are great bourbons, each a little
bit different.
Have fun tasting,
Troy D.