Patron Saints of Beer/Brewers
Stephen P Klump
and was wanting some 1)confirmations/corrections and 2)opinions on
what I have found.
In the book "The Great Beer Trek" S. Morris refers to the "Legendary"
King Gambrinus as the patron saint of brewers.
In an unabridged dictionary at the library, I found the reference to
Gambrinus as the legendary inventor of ale and beer.
Gambrinus is also a brewery in Pilsen of Czechoslovakia. Any relation?
In the book "Ale & Beer A Curious History" Alan Butcher writes that
there are several patron saint of brewers. St Augustine, St Nicholas
(also known as Santa Claus) and St Luke.
Any more ideas?
-Stephen
Jim Eggert x6127 g41
> I have come across several references to the "Patron Saint(s) of Brewers"
> and was wanting some 1)confirmations/corrections and 2)opinions on
> what I have found.
>
> In the book "The Great Beer Trek" S. Morris refers to the "Legendary"
> King Gambrinus as the patron saint of brewers.
> In an unabridged dictionary at the library, I found the reference to
> Gambrinus as the legendary inventor of ale and beer.
> Gambrinus is also a brewery in Pilsen of Czechoslovakia. Any
> relation?
Gambrinus also used to be a beer brewed by the Pittsburgh Brewing
Company. You can be sure that it, as well as any brewery in Pilsen by
the same name, was named after the legendary Gambrinus.
From One Hundred Years of Brewing, published 1903 by H.S. Rich & Co.,
p20-21:
"King Gambrinus is to the votaries of malt liquors what Bacchus is to
the drinkers of wine. ... Now, recently a Mr. Coremans has shown
beyond doubt that Gambrinus stands for the corrupted expression of Jan
Primus. But who was this Jan Primus? Jan the First (Primus), Duke of
Brabant, son of Henry III. of Brabant, was born in 1251 and killed in
1294 at a tournament at Bar, by Pierre Beuffremont. He became
immortal by the battle of Woringen, in which (June 5, 1288) he
defeated and made prisoner Bishop Siegfried of Westerburg.
Jan the First was a knightly hero, a minne-singer in both the
Flandrian and French languages, a kind and protecting master to his
burghers, because he found in the quickly and prosperously developing
burgher community one of the most powerful supports of his government.
But the inventor of beer he was not. ...
So that, although Jan the First was not the inventor of beer, he
did not disdain, popular prince as he was, to become an honorary
member of the Brussels Brewers Guild, and the brewers ornamented their
guildhall with the picture of their chivalric duke. That they placed
a foaming bumper in his hand was natural, as the brewers designed to
honor by that picture not merely their prince but also their trade.
Later, after Jan and his kin had long passed away, and the easy
and merry living population of Brussels had long forgotten him and his
deeds, the name of Jan Primus became corrupted into Gambrinus, while
the location of his picture in the house of the Brussels Brewers Guild
naturally suggested our hero as the inventor of beer."
The book goes on to talk about some of the Gambrinus myths.
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Robert J Unglenieks
>
>In the book "Ale & Beer A Curious History" Alan Butcher writes that
>there are several patron saint of brewers. St Augustine, St Nicholas
>(also known as Santa Claus) and St Luke.
>
>Any more ideas?
St Pauli Girl :-)
Rob U
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Stephen Russell,147 Bard,54648,
> It's certainly not St. Ides. Or St. Louis, MO.
>
> Kim
Nor is it Jill St. John, Susan St. James or Eva Marie Saint.
ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
ObBrewing: anyone _brew_ any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
cheers,
STEVE
ps -- i'm interested in hearing more about this obscure Allentown-area
beer, haven't seen it around central NY yet.....
Rob Bradley
>
>ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
I think there's a St. Sixtus. If it's the beer I'm thinking
of, it's brewed in California. It claims to be an alt beer,
although it's not bitter enough and perhaps a touch too dark.
Nevertheless, it's worth trying once (whether it's in fact
called St. Sixtus or not!).
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In article <1993Mar22.1...@adx.adelphi.edu>, bra...@adx.adelphi.edu (Rob Bradley) writes:
|> In article <1993Mar22....@msc.cornell.edu> srus...@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Stephen Russell,147 Bard,54648,) writes:
|> >
|> >ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
|>
|> I think there's a St. Sixtus. If it's the beer I'm thinking
|> of, it's brewed in California.
You may be thinking of St. Stan's, which produces some Altbiers in California.
(I tried them a few years ago, but I don't remember what they were like). St.
Sixtus is a Trappist Ale from Belgium.
Rob
Stephen Russell,147 Bard,54648,
> In article <1993Mar22....@msc.cornell.edu> srus...@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Stephen Russell,147 Bard,54648,) writes:
>>
>>ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
>
> I think there's a St. Sixtus. If it's the beer I'm thinking
> of, it's brewed in California. It claims to be an alt beer,
> although it's not bitter enough and perhaps a touch too dark.
> Nevertheless, it's worth trying once (whether it's in fact
> called St. Sixtus or not!).
It's brewed in Belgium and has a picture of a monk on it. I think it's
an 'abbey' beer but not 'trappist'.
ObConfusion: anyone understand the difference in styles between abbey
beers and trappist beers? I heard of a BJCP (the beer judge program)
exam that actually asked this...I believe that only those 5 Belgian
and 1 Dutch abbeys in the Trappist order make 'trappist' brews, but
what stylistically constitutes the difference between these?
cheers,
STEVE
"Brewed a beer named after Woody Boyd, the patron saint of Indiana."
Rob Bradley
>|> >ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
>|>
>|> I think there's a St. Sixtus. If it's the beer I'm thinking
>|> of, it's brewed in California.
>
> You may be thinking of St. Stan's, which produces some Altbiers in California.
in the original post, it's not a great beer, but it's interesting
and worth trying.
Delattre
>beers and trappist beers? I heard of a BJCP (the beer judge program)
>exam that actually asked this...I believe that only those 5 Belgian
>and 1 Dutch abbeys in the Trappist order make 'trappist' brews, but
>what stylistically constitutes the difference between these?
Only the sisterciens Monks know how to make the trappist beers.
The 5 belgian trappist:
Saint sixtus .
Orval .
Westmalle .
Chimay .
Rochefort .
1 Netherland abbey:
La Trappe . (I don't know its Netherland name).
Here are a lot of belgian abbey beers , which aren't trappist beers :
Leffe , Aulnes , Maredsous , Grimbergen .
christophe .
CHRIS CANE
>
St. Stan's, California brewer. Fair. Bitey aftertaste.
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the Trappist order, but Abbey beers are trapist style beer made by other
folk of any religious persuasion. Good guess?
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Red Sonja
>> It's certainly not St. Ides. Or St. Louis, MO.
>>
>
>ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
>ObBrewing: anyone _brew_ any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
St. Pauli Girl (Obvious)
Salvator (not a Saint, but a Monk, probably St. Paul's monastery -> Paulaner)
Augustiner (probably from St. Augustine's monastery)
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|> Salvator (not a Saint, but a Monk, probably St. Paul's monastery -> Paulaner)
Unless I'm mistaken, "Salvator" is Latin for "savior". Therefore, it's named
in honor of Jesus. Similar to a monk, but kind of different :)
schoppe
Andreas Meyer
>ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
Sure: St. Pauli Girl. :-)
Andy
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Rob Davis
In alt.beer, ks...@Virginia.EDU ("Kim Khan") writes:
>ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
Sure: St. Pauli Girl. :-)
Andy
And, how about my favorite American microbrew, when I can afford it:
ST. IDES! (just kidding).
-Rob.
Bill A. Danforth
>ObBeer: anyone know of any beers with 'Saint' in the name?
Got another one: St. Stans (Stanislaus Brewing Company - Modesto, CA) - Alt style beers
Later,
Bill Danforth
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Don Levey
St. Stan's.