Pelforth and other brews
Victor V Vuchic
It is from the Alsace Loraine, but is available throughout France. I
took a 5.5 week tour through europe this summer, and only found it in
France. It has a strong flavor that is not to bitter, and the
after-taste is smooth with a slight tang. I must say it is the most
pleasurable brew I have ever had. If anyone has ever seen it here in
the states please tell, I've been searching the entire east coast for
it, and I've never found it.
Another one of my favorites I saw mentioned in this group
earlier, it was called Andechs. It has brewed for 500 years by monks in a
monistary just outside of Munich. They said that they do export small
batches to the US, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I'm
sure its not as good as the brewery, but hell, its better than Coors
or Bud.
If anyone has seen either of these beers in the States, TELL ME
WHERE!!!!
Jim Tyson
In article <2gvpv5$4...@netnews.upenn.edu> vuc...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Victor V Vuchic) writes:
>Has anyone here ever had an amazing French brew called Pelforth?
>It is from the Alsace Loraine, but is available throughout France. I
>took a 5.5 week tour through europe this summer, and only found it in
>France.
I can't remember for sure, but isn't Pelforth brewed in Pas-de-Calais
or Nord? I remember it from childhood stays with relatives in French
Flanders, not from Alsace which I think of as lager country.
Pelforth brew two beers, a blond and a brown. Both are available in
75cl bottles in the UK from hight street supermarkets, though the
blond is easier to find. If you were travelling in europe, I am surprised
you spent much time looking for Pelforth, Germany and Belgium between
them brew beers enough to keep even the most sodden devotee happy for
a lifetime of holidays.
>It has a strong flavor that is not to bitter, and the
>after-taste is smooth with a slight tang. I must say it is the most
>pleasurable brew I have ever had. If anyone has ever seen it here in
>the states please tell, I've been searching the entire east coast for
>it, and I've never found it.
I have to say that of French beers widely available here, I prefer both
Jenlain and Ch'ti to Pelforth. Lutece is undrinkable, imo. I can't
help you with finding them in the US, but given the apparent wide
availability of euro beer there you are sure to find the Pelican some-
where.
Perhaps someone with a more reliable memory than mine can put us straight
about its origin.
Jim, I'd kill for a Radieuse, Tyson
Ian Glendinning
>Has anyone here ever had an amazing French brew called Pelforth?
Yes, a friend brought some back from a trip to France.
>It is from the Alsace Loraine, but is available throughout France. I
>took a 5.5 week tour through europe this summer, and only found it in
>France. It has a strong flavor that is not to bitter, and the
>after-taste is smooth with a slight tang. I must say it is the most
>pleasurable brew I have ever had. If anyone has ever seen it here in
Well I wouldn't go that far, but it was pretty good stuff. I was most
impressed and somewhat surprised, since the Frence are not exactly known
for their beer...
>the states please tell, I've been searching the entire east coast for
>it, and I've never found it.
'fraid I'm on the wrong side of the pond to help you there.
> Another one of my favorites I saw mentioned in this group
>earlier, it was called Andechs. It has brewed for 500 years by monks in a
>monistary just outside of Munich. They said that they do export small
Yep, another good one. Happy beer hunting,
Ian
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Victor V Vuchic
Victor V Vuchic
Jim Tyson
>In <2gvpv5$4...@netnews.upenn.edu> vuc...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Victor V Vuchic) writes:
>
>>Has anyone here ever had an amazing French brew called Pelforth?
>
>Yes, a friend brought some back from a trip to France.
>
>>It is from the Alsace Loraine, but is available throughout France. I
>
>impressed and somewhat surprised, since the Frence are not exactly known
>for their beer...
>
First to the facts. I was right, Pelforth is brewed in Nord/Pas-de-Calais.
However, to my surprise and embarrassment, it appears that both the blond
and the brown are bottom fermenting, so I guess that makes them lagers.
It also appears that Pelforth brew a porter as well, but I have never
tasted it.
To questions of taste: I agree that Pelforth can't really claim to
be a world beating beer, but it is pleasant enough. I am astonished
to hear an Britisher claim that the French aren't known for beer
making. Flanders and Alsace have long traditions of brewing and some
bieres de garde are very fine indeed. I think that the French are pretty
well known for their beer in some quarters.
I again recommend Ch'ti and Jenlain to anyone who wants to try French beer.
Jim, I'd kill for a roggen, Tyson
Cam Lockerbie
In a previous article, skg...@ucl.ac.uk (Jim Tyson) says:
>>>Has anyone here ever had an amazing French brew called Pelforth?
>
<much snipped>
You think the French version of Budmilloor is amazing? Perhaps you
are the first person in entire world to hold this opinion. Granted, the
bottles are cool, the logo is nice, but the beer, well... .
Besides, when in France, you are only a few hours drive from
Belgium, so why drink French beer? French cooking is unbeatable, the wines
are simply the best in the world, but the beer? Put it this way: the only
reason "Export 33" did not win hands down in the cheapest, worst swill
contest that ran on this net before Christmas is that most people in North
America have not had the pleasure of tasting this most horrific of brews.
Imagine throwing old socks and Roblochon cheese into the wort of a batch
of mega-swill. Yikes, is it bad.
Granted, the ol' pelican is better than anything we get out of
Labutts or Mol-sins, but it sure aint amazing.
Through and through, French beer is boring and unspectacular. And
why should it be? The very best breweries in the entire world are all
within 500 miles of Paris, so the French spend all their energy making wine.
Want a Mort Subite, just go to the corner store. A Dortmunder, same story.
A real Czech Bud, same thing. Just be sure to leave the Pelforth, 33,
and Kronenbourg behind. Since you are there, however, grab a baguette on
the way back...
Salut,
Cam
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pints ago - I tried it in several bars in a town just north of the Italian
border. It came in small (probably .5litre) bottles and was very variable
from bar to bar. Although it was generally heavy and malty and fairly heavy,
the yeast deposit varied from negligble to very heavy, and there was a distinct
variation in sweetness from bar to bar. The strange thing was that they
all seemed to be the same brew, and the variation didn't seem to have any
direct relationship to the beer's age.
If anyone has a good explanation for this (apart from "dry out for a few
months!"), I would be very pleased to hear it...
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D.James
aj...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Cam Lockerbie) writes:
>
> Through and through, French beer is boring and unspectacular. And
>
They're not boring.
>Salut,
>Cam
>
Dick James