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Any interest in danish & scandinavian beer topics?

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Bjarke Bundgaard

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Nov 22, 2003, 6:55:36 AM11/22/03
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I'm running a website called glocalbeer (http://www.glocalbeer.dk/). The
site takes a pretty serious stance towards its subject - no babes, no burps
, no jokes - just serious beer talk ;). Currently its only in danish - which
of course is quite limiting to the people of this NG. But lately I've been
thinking whether or not there's actually an international audience
interested in reading about danish and to some extent scandinavian beer,
brewing and events? Should I try make a part of the site available in
english? Or is the subject just to small to be of any really interest,
compared to what else is going on? I want your comments to be absolutely
honest - I'm not gonna spend hours make the translations and markup if you
don't think there's an audience... (not that I think I'll be run over by a
massive trafic from abroad). But still it's always a good thing to
investigate the 'market' before doing the production...

Thanks for any comments!

Bjarke

Fred Waltman

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Nov 23, 2003, 11:00:36 PM11/23/03
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Hi Bjarke,

I'd be interested, but then again I'm interested in most things about "good beer"

Fred Waltman
www.FranconiaBeerGuide.com

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Lecher9000

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Nov 25, 2003, 5:34:06 PM11/25/03
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Bjarke,

The ")" is in your website URL, and results in a "page not found"
error. I renmoved the ")", and got to the website OK.

Yes, I am interested in Scandinavian beer. I understand the beer prices are
enormous in Scandinavia (at least thery are in Sweden), due to enormous taxes
placed on alcohol.

Actually, I cannot think of any Scandinavian beer available at my local beer
store here in the U.S. state of Pennsylvania. Unless you count Holland as part
of Scandinavia.

I would hope the taxes are not included in any beer that Scandinavia exports
to the U.S.

Can you name some Scandinavian beers for me?

Thanks,
L

Bjarke Bundgaard

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Nov 26, 2003, 6:18:14 AM11/26/03
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> The ")" is in your website URL, and results in a "page not found"
> error. I renmoved the ")", and got to the website OK.

Sorry


> Yes, I am interested in Scandinavian beer. I understand the beer prices
are
> enormous in Scandinavia (at least thery are in Sweden), due to enormous
taxes
> placed on alcohol.

Actually Scandinavia is quite diversified concerning alcohol taxation.
Norway and Sweden have heavy duty on beer, while Denmark actually have quite
low taxation compared to the european average. In addition the legal system
has regulated differently concerning what exactly they taxate. In Denmark we
taxated the gravity, while the swedes (as I recall it) taxate the alcohol
content. However these things are changing, as we are undergoing a
revitalisation of the danish beer market. It has been mentioned that alone
in Denmark the number af breweries will grow from 19 to 35 in two years!
Compared to the population of 5,2 mill, you'll get a new population/brewery
ration of 1 for each 150.000 inhabitants (compare that to the US ratio).

> Actually, I cannot think of any Scandinavian beer available at my local
beer
> store here in the U.S. state of Pennsylvania. Unless you count Holland as
part
> of Scandinavia.

I wouldn't count Holland as a part of Scandinavia.

> I would hope the taxes are not included in any beer that Scandinavia
exports
> to the U.S.

I'm not that familiar with the rules, but my guess is that - afterall
scandinavians are pragmatic people - export goods are untaxed. After all the
taxation is meant to lower the domestic consumption of beverages, not to
destroy the business entirely...

> Can you name some Scandinavian beers for me?

Well, one cannot escape mentioning Carlsberg Breweries. They have market
shares in the range of 60-70% in all Scandinavian countries, due to
agressive buy-up and mergers. They main brand of Carlsberg is of course
Carlsberg Pilsner. They also brew Tuborg - which used to be exported to
Northamerica. In Denmark the second largest brewery is Bryggerigruppen -
they have a fairly popular export beer called 'Red Erik' and they also brew
an equally strong 'Giraf'.
But it is the bunch of microbreweries and old regional breweries that brews
the most interesting beer in Denmark. Unfortunately you will not find these
beer in the US, as they do not have the economic power to start exporting.
In Sweden the development in microbreweries have seemingly already peaked.
The swedes started their beer revolution somewhat earlier than the danes,
and unfortunately some breweries have already been forced to close. Lets
hope it finds a steady pace once more... Anyway you could probably find
Carnegie Porter in the US. Carnegie Porter is quite an experience. Likewise
the Finnish Koff Porter is worth mentioning, as it also is exported to the
US. In Norway one finds the excellent Aass Bock. That too is probably
exported to the US. Otherwise I just recommend looking for microbrew from
Sweden, Norway, Finland or Denmark. In time I'm confident that you'll be
able to taste the fruits of the new changes...

Lecher9000

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Dec 1, 2003, 8:36:33 AM12/1/03
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Thanks for the information on Scandinavian beer. I had heard of Carlsberg and
I remember being able to buy Tuborg Ale ( I think, many years ago) for a low
price here in the U.S.

I do not recognize the other beers you mentioned.

I will check out the imported microbrews at my beer store and look for
Scandinavian addresses on them.

Even though I live in the "wealthy" USA, my beer funds are currently limited
since I have recently "destressed" my lifestyle, and also decreased my income,
with my new low-stress job. Oh well, one must make choices. I can afford to
get some microbrew once in a while.

L

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