Blue Moon Belgian White vs Sam Adams Summer Ale
adam london
Coincidence or not, a friend and I picked up a six pack of the
aforementioned beers last night. Maybe it's because we can't find
Celis anymore, we both bought similar types of beer. In my opinion,
the Blue Moon was the far superior beer. The coriander and orange peel,
advertised on both beers was far more evident in the Blue Moon. It was
also less carbonated, with a creamier texture and more flavor. Closer to
Celis than the Samuel Adams. Has anyone else tried both of these? Any
other opinions?
Bruce Reistle
I've had them both also. I would tend to agree that the folks at
Coors did alright with their Blue Moon Belgian White. It's a bit too
sweet in my opinion, kind of like bubble-gum. The Samuel Adams Summer
Ale is pleasant enough but it doesn't have much character.
If you like the Blue Moon White you might also like Wit. This too is
a sweet, bubble-gum tasting beer. I certainly miss Celis White.
Chuck Noll
In <4u3cmb$4...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> adam london
<Good....@worldnet.att.net> writes:
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>Coincidence or not, a friend and I picked up a six pack of the
>aforementioned beers last night. Maybe it's because we can't find
>Celis anymore, we both bought similar types of beer. In my opinion,
>the Blue Moon was the far superior beer. The coriander and orange
peel,
>advertised on both beers was far more evident in the Blue Moon. It
was
>also less carbonated, with a creamier texture and more flavor. Closer
to
>Celis than the Samuel Adams. Has anyone else tried both of these?
Any
>other opinions?
>
the Sam Adams, but the Blue Moon, had more pronounced flavor.
eric e weinraub
: I've had them both also. I would tend to agree that the folks at
: Coors did alright with their Blue Moon Belgian White. It's a bit too
: sweet in my opinion, kind of like bubble-gum. The Samuel Adams Summer
: Ale is pleasant enough but it doesn't have much character.
: If you like the Blue Moon White you might also like Wit. This too is
: a sweet, bubble-gum tasting beer. I certainly miss Celis White.
I believe that Belgian beer, by nature is sweet. I'd ask that someone have
their taste buds checked if they said that the Celis Grand Crue, White, and
Rasberry were not sweet.
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Bart Depreter
adam london (Good....@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: Coincidence or not, a friend and I picked up a six pack of the
: aforementioned beers last night. Maybe it's because we can't find
: Celis anymore, we both bought similar types of beer. In my opinion,
: the Blue Moon was the far superior beer. The coriander and orange peel,
: advertised on both beers was far more evident in the Blue Moon. It was
: also less carbonated, with a creamier texture and more flavor. Closer to
: Celis than the Samuel Adams. Has anyone else tried both of these? Any
: other opinions?
Since I live in Belgium, the country where beer was invented so to speak,
I don't even have to trie Celis, or Blue Moon or whatever. Something you
should know is that the guy who brews Celis white beer, originally comes
from Belgium, where he used to own part of the famous brewery "De Kluis".
At "De Kluis" the best white beer in the world is made:
Hoegaerden.
If you ever are able to get your hands on it, try it! I have drunk Celis
here in Belgium also, and although it isn't all that bad, it just can't
compete with the refreshing taste of Hoegaerden. Also - in my personal
experience - it is very difficult to get a hangover if you stick too
Hoegaerden.
Some other white beers are (but not as good as Hoegaerden)
Brugs Tarwe
Denterghemse
And with a bit more alcohol (>8%) and a more bitter taste
Corsendonck Agnus
Witkap Stimulo
Hoegaerden Grand Cru
Hoegaerden Verboden Vrucht (Forbidden Fruit)
Bush
Piraat
Kasteelbier
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Bruce Reistle
Celis White sweet? Not particularly. Belgian beers are certainly not
sweet by nature. Ever try Cantillon Gueuze? Dry as a bone. Or any
other quality gueuze? Saisons are also dry. Orval is also very dry.
The best examples of Belgian fruit beers tend to be a bit tart
(refreshingly tart). The commercial examples tend to be overly sweet -
the way the masses like them. Celis Raspberry is cloyingly sweet. I
wouldn't consider it an interesting beer.
Bruce Resitle
Robert Brett Bartholme
There's always Corsendonk!
In <4u3cmb$4...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> adam london
<Good....@worldnet.att.net> writes:
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Mike Smith
In article <4u8cs5$4...@infoserv.rug.ac.be>, bde...@eduserv2.rug.ac.be
(Bart Depreter) wrote:
> adam london (Good....@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
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> Since I live in Belgium, the country where beer was invented so to speak... <SNIP>
Belgium may be where beer was perfected but people have been drinking beer
since before Pharoh Egypt.
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Mike Smith
Tom Donaghue
Bruce Reistle wrote:
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> adam london wrote:
> >
> > Coincidence or not, a friend and I picked up a six pack of the
> > aforementioned beers last night. Maybe it's because we can't find
> > Celis anymore, we both bought similar types of beer. In my opinion,
> > the Blue Moon was the far superior beer. The coriander and orange peel,
> > advertised on both beers was far more evident in the Blue Moon. It was
> > also less carbonated, with a creamier texture and more flavor. Closer to
> > Celis than the Samuel Adams. Has anyone else tried both of these? Any
> > other opinions?
>
> Coors did alright with their Blue Moon Belgian White. It's a bit too
> sweet in my opinion, kind of like bubble-gum. The Samuel Adams Summer
> Ale is pleasant enough but it doesn't have much character.
> If you like the Blue Moon White you might also like Wit. This too is
> a sweet, bubble-gum tasting beer. I certainly miss Celis White.
Ah, Blue Moon Belgian White! I, too, was most impressed by this
offering from the Blue Moon subsidiary of Coors. In my opinion,
however, I found it superior to the Celis White I've tried here in
New England--and far *FAR* superior to that "Wit!" beer I tried
on two awful occasions.
As for the Samuel Adams Summer Ale... not one of my favorites.
I understand what they were trying to do, but I just don't think
this one worked... for me anyway.
As for Blue Moon in general, I know they get lot of flames from
the "beer snobs" of this newsgroup but in my opinion, they produce
some very good beer and it just goes to show what the mega breweries
*could* do on a regular basis if they chose to do so. One of my
favorites is Blue Moon's Harvest Ale (usually available in September).
Tom Donaghue
John R. Prather
In article <4u3cmb$4...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
adam london <Good....@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>Coincidence or not, a friend and I picked up a six pack of the
>aforementioned beers last night. Maybe it's because we can't find
>Celis anymore, we both bought similar types of beer. In my opinion,
>the Blue Moon was the far superior beer.
I tried the Blue Moon recently and had the same impression. Excellent flavor.
I was honestly shocked it was so good. The flavoring is distinctive but not
really overpowering.
Bart Depreter
Mike Smith (pyro...@wco.com) wrote:
: In article <4u8cs5$4...@infoserv.rug.ac.be>, bde...@eduserv2.rug.ac.be
: (Bart Depreter) wrote:
: > adam london (Good....@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
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: > Since I live in Belgium, the country where beer was invented so to speak... <SNIP>
key word being SO TO SPEAK
: Belgium may be where beer was perfected but people have been drinking beer
: since before Pharoh Egypt.
It's a bit like France, where there is a huge wine culture, even though
they weren't the first to make wine. All I wanted to imply was that we
have a comparable tradition in beer ;)
Bart
John R. Prather
SWilson769
I have to agree. The Blue Moon is much smoother and has a better all
around flavor. The Sam I find too lemony and it distracts from the taste
of the beer. Then again I hate lemon in my iced tea and water also.
Shannon
"Music is an invisible dance, as dancing is silent music."
Jean Paul
John R. Prather
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>: Coincidence or not, a friend and I picked up a six pack of the
>: aforementioned beers last night.
>Since I live in Belgium, the country where beer was invented so to speak,
WHOAAAA!!! I believe the place credited with the invention of modern beer is
Pilsen, Chechoslavakia.
Normand Modine
er...@world.std.com (eric e weinraub) writes:
>I believe that Belgian beer, by nature is sweet.
I really wish that people would stop generalizing about Belgian beer.
In the last week, I have seen posts claiming that Belgian beers are all
lagers, are all over 8% ABV, and are all sweet. Let's get straight that
there are dozens of styles of Belgian beer that range all over the
spectrum of possible characteristics. The only generalization that I
can think of that comes close to being true is that they are all good,
and examples like Stella Artois prove that even this is not accurate.
Normand Modine
mod...@cmt.harvard.edu
David Hango
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> >
> >Coincidence or not, a friend and I picked up a six pack of the
> >Celis anymore, we both bought similar types of beer. In my opinion,
> >the Blue Moon was the far superior beer.
>
> I tried the Blue Moon recently and had the same impression. Excellent flavor.
> I was honestly shocked it was so good. The flavoring is distinctive but not
> really overpowering.
Amazing what Coors can do when they put their best efforts into the
brewing process!
Normand Modine
bde...@eduserv2.rug.ac.be (Bart Depreter) writes:
>adam london (Good....@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
>Since I live in Belgium, the country where beer was invented so to speak,
>I don't even have to trie Celis, or Blue Moon or whatever. Something you
>should know is that the guy who brews Celis white beer, originally comes
>from Belgium, where he used to own part of the famous brewery "De Kluis".
>At "De Kluis" the best white beer in the world is made:
> Hoegaerden.
>If you ever are able to get your hands on it, try it! I have drunk Celis
>here in Belgium also, and although it isn't all that bad, it just can't
>compete with the refreshing taste of Hoegaerden.
I also have tried both, and I would have to disagree strongly.
The Hoegaerden is quite thin, bland, and uninteresting compared to
the Celis. The Celis is more spicy, has more aroma, and has more
mouth feel. I understand that this is because Interbrew dumbed down
Hoegaerden in order to save money and appeal to a wider audience
after they bought out De Kluis. Of course, many people prefer
thin, bland beer to beer with character, and I can see why they
would prefer Hoegaerden.
Normand Modine
mod...@cmt.harvard.edu
Don Scheidt
mod...@fas.harvard.edu (Normand Modine) wrote:
>bde...@eduserv2.rug.ac.be (Bart Depreter) writes:
>>If you ever are able to get your hands on it, try it! I have drunk Celis
>>here in Belgium also, and although it isn't all that bad, it just can't
>>compete with the refreshing taste of Hoegaerden.
>I also have tried both, and I would have to disagree strongly.
>The Hoegaerden is quite thin, bland, and uninteresting compared to
>the Celis. The Celis is more spicy, has more aroma, and has more
>mouth feel. I understand that this is because Interbrew dumbed down
>Hoegaerden in order to save money and appeal to a wider audience
>after they bought out De Kluis. Of course, many people prefer
>thin, bland beer to beer with character, and I can see why they
>would prefer Hoegaerden.
One other thing to remember is that the Celis offered in Belgium is
brewed under contract by a Belgian brewery (not De Kluis!), and may
not be identical to the product brewed in Austin. Thus, it's hard to
compare them in Belgium.
On the other hand, we get imported Hoegaarden direct from Belgium in
many parts of the states, and can compare it too the real made-in-Austin
Celis beer. The Celis does seem to come out on top in terms of real
flavor, and I think the Interbrew takeover of De Kluis has changed
Hoegaarden, and not necessarily for the better.
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Don Scheidt, dgs...@case.cyberspace.com
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Lin Marphy
where do you get this blue moon? i really like belgian brews.
On 4 Aug 1996, adam london wrote:
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> Coincidence or not, a friend and I picked up a six pack of the
> aforementioned beers last night. Maybe it's because we can't find
> Celis anymore, we both bought similar types of beer. In my opinion,
Dr. Bombay
Lin Marphy <lma...@haywire.csuhayward.edu> wrote in article
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: where do you get this blue moon? i really like belgian brews.
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Blue Moon is produced by Coors Brewing Company, at the Sand Lot Brewery
located at Coor's Field (the new baseball stadium) in downtown Denver. I
recently toured the Coors brewery while in the Denver, and learned about
this Blue Moon. It is currently being marketed in approximately 35 states;
they are scheduled to have it in all 50 by December.
"Calling Dr. Bombay, the famous Dr. Bombay!"
Don Scheidt
"Dr. Bombay" <cat...@goodnet.com> wrote:
>Blue Moon is produced by Coors Brewing Company, at the Sand Lot Brewery
>located at Coor's Field (the new baseball stadium) in downtown Denver. I
>recently toured the Coors brewery while in the Denver, and learned about
>this Blue Moon. It is currently being marketed in approximately 35 states;
>they are scheduled to have it in all 50 by December.
You're right about it being from Coors, but Coors has contracted a couple
of other breweries, with significantly larger capacity than the Sandlot,
to brew the Blue Moon line for national distribution. F.X. Matt of Utica,
N.Y., is one such brewery.
Sir Kirb
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cat...@goodnet.com says...
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>Lin Marphy <lma...@haywire.csuhayward.edu> wrote in article
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>: where do you get this blue moon? i really like belgian brews.
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Brewery
>located at Coor's Field (the new baseball stadium) in downtown Denver.
I
>recently toured the Coors brewery while in the Denver, and learned
about
>this Blue Moon. It is currently being marketed in approximately 35
states;
>they are scheduled to have it in all 50 by December.
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I have had the opportunity to try the Blue Moon Raspberry Cream and I
am quite surprised at the flavour of this beer. For a large brewery I
believe that this is one of the finest beers that I have had the
pleasure of tasting. I am also a home brewer and would like very much
to replicate the taste of this beer... If anyine has any suggestions
please drop me a line. I primairly use extracts for my beer, but I
also do some grain tea brewing prior to making the actual wart. Thank
you in advance for any imput
Bill Richards
If you like the Belgian Whites you must try Celis White brewed in
Austin TX. Blue Moon is good but Celis is heaven in a bottle.