Richard Naisby
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> If you'd bothered to read the FAQ or the Guinness book of Records you'd know
> that the current world beer strength record is held by Uncle Igors Famous
> Falling Over Water, of Bristol, England, upwards of 20% ABV
Whoa! Hadn't seen that one. My recollection is that Duvel and
Samischlaus (sp?) are both in the mid to high teens in ABV. (And
Duvel seems quite innocuous to look at and drink, hence the name,
which means "Devil". (In Flemish??))
Steve Horst
Try Ross Bristol Brewhouse or the Newport Brewhouse (NEW) for Uncle Igors
at 21.0% ABV. The Bristol Brewhouse also did a port version call Uncle
Igors Christmas Pudding at 19.0% ABV
Ieuan.
Marcel
> Highest alcohol content?! There's no reason why you should only drink
> beer with enormous alcohol content (my favourite beer of all time only
> contains about 4.1% alcohol) but if you want to get completely off your
> face while drinking something nice, then there are a lot stronger beers
> than that around. In fact, even the current Guinness Book of Records
> recognizes the fact that the world's strongest beer is Uncle Igor's
> Famous Falling-Over Water, from the Bristol Brewhouse, not twenty
> minutes from here.
>
> Dave
>
It may only take you 20 mins. to get from Bristol Uni to the Bristol
Brewhouse, but I bet it takes a lot longer to get back :-).
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Greetings Frank
>Dave
Everyone keeps telling me about how high in alchohol the ice beers are, but
the fact remains, MOST of the breweries let the ice melt... the only thing
that changes is that the hops precipitate out... = less aftertaste.
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Ever drank Affligem Tripple ...... It is as tripple as tripple can be!
// Bye, Joost Walraven // Groningen,
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frank, i'm new here and i don't want to be stepping on anyone's toes.....but your an
idiot! :)
jon
I am pleased you react but if you drink special beer because of the large
alcohol content you must be a teenager with some strange ideas.
Drink beer because it tastes good.
Greetings Frank
: Greetings Frank
I can only agree with you Frank. I've drank on both sides of the atlantic,
and although I started Hating American Beers, there are some good ones out there
like Pete's Wicked Ale/Lager etc... & European beer is difficult to get in the
USA. But the whole problem is the mystification of Alcohol and the (relatively)
high age of consent for beer dinking!
Tot Ziens! en Proost!
Andy
(ik vind De Verboden Vruct lekkerer dan Duvel!, maar Duvel is lekker ook)
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28% ? Rubbish!
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The highrst liquer AC I've seen is 180 proof Woods Navy Rum.
As far as beer goes I think Ice House is the highest in the U.S.
at 5.5%
Black Dog@UNLV
: 28% ? Rubbish!
Strongest beer I've ever seen in Canada is a Quebec micro-brewery beer
called "Fin du Monde" or "End of the World"... this beer was just under
10% if I remember correctly. It was actually really good beer, once you
use a strainer to skim all the particles out - very smooth and easy to
down.
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: You're right. Kulminator, EKU's ice beer, is around 14%. In all fairness though, it sure feels like 28%!!
I've heard the 14% figure as well, and I believe that would make the
beer 28 proof. Hence the name?
I had this beer about 10 years ago and loathed it. I just bought a bottle
tonight to give it a second chance, and will report on my findings. This
is my first evening on this newsgroup, and so I was pleased to see this
beer mentioned. The overall posting quality here seems to be quite high.
> > >Did anyone ever here of EKU 28 it's self proclaimed as the world's
> > >strongest beer ranking in at 28%. I use to slam a lot of it in Germany.
The 28 refers to the specific gravity of the wort used to make the beer. 28
degrees plato. The actual alcohol percentage in EKU28 is 12-14 percent or so.
Samiclaus (made in Sweeden) is largely considered to be the strongest lager beer
at about %14.
> > I think the 28 percent value is incorrect. Yeast cannot live in an
> > environment even close to that alcohol level. The only way to get this
> > percentage would be to distill.
These beers are reputed to be ice distilled, that is the brews a frozen and
ice formed is skimmed from the brew. This removes water and leaves behind the
alcohol which freezes at lower temperatures. These are true ice beers rather
than marketing ploys!
> The hishest alchol content I've seen advertised in the U.S. (in stores) is
> 7.7% for Bull Ice. Which tastes like shit. But Moosehead Ice has a
> nice flavor to it, and rates in at 5.8%-- not too shabby.
You will find high alcohol brews listed in the US as malt liquor usually.
This do to the "creative" labeling laws.
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Not true. In MA we can get high alcohol beers. Example: Sam Adams Tripple
Bock is 17.5 % alcohol. The laws do vary by state though.
So What? Regulated by the government is supposed to connotate danger?
Canadian beers are not stronger, and who cares anyway? I've made beer
MYSELF that was over 10% by volume! Why am I arguing, anyone who makes
this claim is exposed as an ignoramus. Possibly you've heard that some
states mandate 3.2% beer? Well, this is 3.2% by weight, which is
about 4% by volume, pretty close to typical of american AND canadian
beers. But why am I arguing, you only get excited at, what, 7.9%?
You are obviously not talking about Canadian beer at all.
Who knows what you're talking about, you clearly don't.
Double bock has, you guessedit, double the alcohol content and is
usually $7.00 a six pack.
Triple Bock is about $4.50 for an 8-ounce bottle but has about 15
percent alcohol.
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>d...@tdc.umtri.umich.edu (David Eby) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> In article <3h10hd$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, H20RAT
<h20...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >Did anyone ever here of EKU 28 it's self proclaimed as the world's
>> >strongest beer ranking in at 28%. I use to slam a lot of it in
Germany.
>>
>> I think the 28 percent value is incorrect. Yeast cannot live in an
>> environment even close to that alcohol level. The only way to get
this
>> percentage would be to distill.
>
>The hishest alchol content I've seen advertised in the U.S. (in stores)
is
>7.7% for Bull Ice. Which tastes like shit. But Moosehead Ice has a
>nice flavor to it, and rates in at 5.8%-- not too shabby.
>
>
>
Brewers have come up with a clever way to increase the alcohol content
without resorting to distilling. I suspect some adman heard about
the process and started naming every new beer ICE, although
technically it may not be.
In order to raise alcohol, brewers let stand the finished beer in
refrigerated pools. Once ice begins to form, it is smashed and removed
from the mix. By removing a volume of water they raise the alcohol(which
freezes at lower temps) content in the brew.
-js
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Actually I enjoy the Sam Adams Tipple Bock. It is very complex and is
meant to be sipped. If you enjoy Barley Wine style beer like Sierra
Nevada's Bigfoot Barleywine, you'll enjoy the tripple bock. Serve these
in a congnac type snifter at room temp. Greg.
Sorry dudes. The highest alchohol content Ive seen in a beer is something
called St Bernardus Abt 12, which has 10% by volume. Its cool, it tastes
like coke. In terms of hard liquor, theres this stuff called Alcool, and its
192 proof.
ChriS EsserT
TorontO
On Fri, 17 Feb 1995, David Christensen wrote:
> friedson <frie...@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu> writes:
>
> >d...@tdc.umtri.umich.edu (David Eby) wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In article <3h10hd$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, H20RAT <h20...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >Did anyone ever here of EKU 28 it's self proclaimed as the world's
> >> >strongest beer ranking in at 28%. I use to slam a lot of it in Germany.
> >>
> >> I think the 28 percent value is incorrect. Yeast cannot live in an
> >> environment even close to that alcohol level. The only way to get this
> >> percentage would be to distill.
>
> >The hishest alchol content I've seen advertised in the U.S. (in stores) is
> >7.7% for Bull Ice. Which tastes like shit. But Moosehead Ice has a
> >nice flavor to it, and rates in at 5.8%-- not too shabby.
>
>
> >I've actually tried a beer called "scaldis" (i'm not quite sure of the
> >spelling) that is at least 9% alcohol--
>
>
There is a Belgium Beer with a alcoholpercentage of 12.6% !! You can buy
it in Holland & Belgium; just in a bottle!
Jeroen de Wilt (jer...@bioch.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: On Fri, 17 Feb 1995, David Christensen wrote:
: > friedson <frie...@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu> writes:
: > >d...@tdc.umtri.umich.edu (David Eby) wrote:
: > >> In article <3h10hd$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, H20RAT <h20...@aol.com> wrote:
: > >> I think the 28 percent value is incorrect. Yeast cannot live in an
: > >> environment even close to that alcohol level. The only way to get this
: > >> percentage would be to distill.
: > >The hishest alchol content I've seen advertised in the U.S. (in stores) is
: > >7.7% for Bull Ice. Which tastes like shit. But Moosehead Ice has a
: > >nice flavor to it, and rates in at 5.8%-- not too shabby.
: > >I've actually tried a beer called "scaldis" (i'm not quite sure of the
: > >spelling) that is at least 9% alcohol--
: There is a Belgium Beer with a alcoholpercentage of 12.6% !! You can buy
: it in Holland & Belgium; just in a bottle!
Samuel Adams Triple Bock is more like 17% alchohol. You can buy it at any
good beer distributor, although I think it's mostly gone now. It's about
$99/case (varies widely). Comes in a nice bottle.
Jeff
BTW: I think it is from Switzerland
IA>> From: rog...@kbbs.com
IA>> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 20:11:20 PST
IA>> Actually, there is a beer produced in Portland, Ore. by a Micro
IA>> Brewery. The brand is called Hair of the Dog. Quite good!!
IA>> A nice chocolate color, with a firm head, nice bouquet, and
IA>> no aftertaste. 8.0 % by volume!!!
IA> ^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
IA>Surely the lack of an aftertaste is a damning flaw in any beer. The
IA>finish is an important part of the beer drinking experience.
IA>Andrew.
Only 8%??? You can buy Scottish Silly at the liquor store in a 2 litre
bottle, at 8.5%. But I think we folks are lookin' for somethin' a little
stronger than that. This one sounds quite expensive. We can get the same
effect with a coupla bottles of Stroh's Red Bull (7.1%), for $7.95 Cdn
/6.
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> I've actually tried a beer called "scaldis" (i'm not quite sure of the
> spelling) that is at least 9% alcohol--
Jeroen de Wilt <jer...@bioch.ox.ac.uk> responded:
JdW> There is a Belgian Beer with a alcoholpercentage of 12.6% !! You can
JdW> buy it in Holland & Belgium; just in a bottle!
I think you are talking about the same beer, called Bush Beer in Belgium
and exported as Scaldis (after the latin name of the Scheldt River
(a.k.a. Schelde and Escaut), which runs through the town where the beer
is made.
It happens to be a very tasty beer, in the style of Duvel and the
myriads of "triples" brewed in Belgium.
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Ever heard of La Trappe Quadruple? Brewed by dutch Trappist munks, brewed &
bottled only in autumn and bottled per year (there's definitely a difference
in taste between the Quadruples of different years). Alcohol percentage: 10.
Good strong taste, bittersweet (more sweet than bitter), not very much carbon-
dioxide in it. Delicious with a good (smooth) cigar.
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Nope. Samichlaus is in the 15% range by volume. Triple Bock is definitely
stronger. Also, it is not at all foul. I love it! (Note that I don't
at all care for either EKU or Triple Bock).
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IT>keep in mind that beer is only a beer until it raeches 7% then it becomes a
IT>wineIn article <3iivua$a...@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>, AK20...@SOL.yorku.ca (Al
IT>Marshall) writes:
IT>>In <1995022113495...@sp0244.kub.nl> P.H.M...@kub.nl writes:
IT>>
IT>>>
IT>>> The percentage of 7.7% is'n even close to that of the world's strongest
IT>>> beer. When we speake of common sold beer , the strongest beer is Bush Bee
IT>>> It has a percentage of 12%. Also Kasteel (11%), Hertog Jan (10%) are very
IT>>> strong beers. As you would expect, these beers come frome Belgium and
IT>Holland.
IT>>> These ice brewed beers are not so much stronger than usaul pils.
IT>>
IT>>Again, not even close. Bush is the strongest brewed in Belgium. For
IT>>the real scoop, I have extracted from the Beer Records FAQ:
IT>>
IT>> BEER RECORDS FAQ
IT>>
IT>>Strongest Beer:
IT>>
IT>>Strongest Ale or Barley Wine:
IT>>
IT>>Uncle Igor's Famous Falling Down Water, brewed by the Ross Brewing
IT>>Company, a brewpub in Stokes Croft, Bristol, England is 21% abv
IT>>(17.4% abw) and has an original gravity of 1200. Previously, this
IT>>beer had been 17.3% abv (14.2% abw). The brewer is Mike Ross.
IT>>(Sources: Steve Plumridge, Steve.P...@bristol.ac.uk, Keith
IT>>Myers, A clipping from the Bristol newspaper, and CAMRA publication
IT>>and the GBR95)
IT>>
IT>>
IT>>Notables from the recent past:
IT>>
IT>>The Boston Beer Company (marketers of the Samuel Adams line of
IT>>beers) is marketing a 17.5% abv (14.4% abw) "Triple Bock" beer.
IT>>Despite its name, it is a barley wine, brewed with Champagne yeast
IT>>and not lager yeast. There is some speculation that this is the
IT>>beer that was test marketed in the U.K. as "Small Brewer's Revenge"
IT>>
IT>>Roger & Out, brewed at the Frog & Parrot in Sheffield, Great
IT>>Britain, from a recipe devised by W. R. Nowill and G. B. Spencer,
IT>>is 16.9% abv (13.9% abw), was the previous record-holder (GBR,
IT>>1992). (I received a communication that contended that 16.9% abv
IT>>was a theoretical limit and that it only reached this strength
IT>>once.)
IT>>
IT>>
IT>>Lagers:
IT>>
IT>>Samichlaus Dark 1987 (Brauerei Huerlimann, Zurich, Switzerland) is
IT>>the strongest conventionally brewed lager at 14.93% abv (12.23%
IT>>abw). (GBR, 1992) Michael Jackson's Pocket Guide (1994) indicates
IT>>this has been as high as 16% (13.1% abw).
IT>>
IT>>Michael Jackson refers to EKU Kulminator 28 as having the highest
IT>>gravity (28 degrees guaranteed, but some have been as high as 30.54
IT>>degrees). The alcohol content is 13.5% abv (11.0% abw). This beer
IT>>is ice distilled, but not for the purpose of increasing its
IT>>alcoholic strength. (MJPG94)
IT>>
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IT>> AK20...@SOL.YORKU.CA a class and make it look like you know
IT>> York University everything there is to know about something
IT>> Toronto, Canada you know nothing about." Prof. Anonymous
What's the strongest extra stout out there?
demonseed
Interstingly enough, EKU 28 is a "light" beer - that is, you can see
through it (only Americans refer to light beer as low alcohol/calories).
It, and the other strong beers discussed here and in other posts, ARE
seethrough - much like motor oil, to which unfans regularly compare them.
They are (IMHO) very good beers, but should be drank with good
foods...they're not a good (or cheap for that matter) source of a "quick
buzz". Samiclaus & wings are NOT a winning combo.
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something is wrong.
> ... and the latest news is that Parish Brewery, Somerby, Leicestershire
> have announced that they intend to out-do Ross's 21% with a souped-up
> Baz's Bonce Blower at 23% !!!
I'll have to rely on you people over there to keep me informed for the
Beer Records FAQ
> Personally me thinks this is all rather silly. In general, all you end
> up with is an undrinkable beer at a very high price !
Sometimes that may be true. The past record holders I've tried
(Several vintages of Samichlaus and SA3B) have been quite enjoyable
when served appropriately. This usually means in a snifter glass and
savored for the entire evening. (The British record breakers -- Roger
and Out & Uncle Igor's -- are only served on premises, which precludes
having them at home in your favourite snifter reading a good book.)
Unfortunately, I've never tasted them, so for now I'll take your word
as to their undrinkability.
On the otherhand, Mike Ross (Uncle Igor's) or the Frog and Parrot
(Roger and Out) could not have bought the publicity they received but
brewing the world strongest beer. So from a different prespective, it
may have been an excellent business decision.
Alan
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>Someone said that it gets interesting at 7.9% The highest I have ever
>seen is 9% "la fin du Monde" : The end of the world, brewed in
>Chambly, Quebec. These are the same people that make "la Maudite" :
>the Evil. at 8%. Both are very stout dark beers. All of the high
>alcohol light beers (ice. max ice. XXX, etc.) are poor-tasting ways to
>get plastered.
There's a place called Chester's in Hamilton that has somewhere in the
neighborhood of 200 different brands. One night I was there and one of my
friends ordered a bottle of this Swiss tar that was (I think) 13-14%
EtOH v/v. I, personally, would not want to drink that.
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