Budweiser
Lazi
I have question about this beer (Budweiser). Which one is older and orginal.
From Czech Republik or USA. I think orginal is from Czech because they are
have big traditions in brewing. The name sounds like german.
Please give me inform.
--
Lazi
Phil
<lazi1@(usun_to)poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I have question about this beer (Budweiser). Which one is older and orginal.
>From Czech Republik or USA. I think orginal is from Czech because they are
>have big traditions in brewing. The name sounds like german.
The Czech beer, the American Buidweiser opened about 1860.
Phil
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visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
Lew Bryson
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:14:12 +0100, "Lazi"
>>orginal.
>>From Czech Republik or USA. I think orginal is from Czech because they are
>>have big traditions in brewing. The name sounds like german.
>
> The Czech beer, the American Buidweiser opened about 1860.
Phil, Phil, Phil...How many times have we been over this?
The American Budweiser, brewed by Anheuser-Busch, was first sold in American
in 1876. The Czech beer that is today labeled as Budweiser, or Budvar, came
second, in the 1890s. The "big traditions in brewing" in the Czech Republic
count for little in this case; American brewing traditions are every bit as
old, simply transplanted. European brewers came to America and brewed here.
What does count is that beer was being brewed in Budvar, or Budweis, for at
least 100 years before the organization of the brewery that today brews
Budweiser there. And naturally enough, these beers were generally referred
to as "budweiser," or 'beer from Budweis.' Were they actually named that,
and labeled that? Apparently not. Do we actually know when the type of beer
replicated by the Czech Budweiser was first brewed? Other than a general
assumption that it post-dates the 1842 origin of Pilsener, no, we don't, to
the best of my limited knowledge. Does it predate American Budweiser?
Probably, because indications are that American Budweiser was at least named
for a similarly light-golden, crisp lager found in Budweis.
But if you're strictly asking which of the two beers currently labeled as
Budweiser is the older, the answer is the American one. Which one is the
"original" is a bit sticky, as it appears that neither one is.
--
Lew Bryson
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Author of "New York Breweries" and "Pennsylvania Breweries," 2nd ed., both
available at <www.amazon.com>
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Lazi
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> "Phil" <dogg...@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
Thank you guys for answers.
I was wonder about the name.Because for me it's strange intersection of
facts. The name of Czech town Budejovice with Budejovicki Budvar and on the
other side earth the same name of beer.I see connection between.So I've just
find somethink like this on the official website of Budvar
http://www.budvar.cz/budvar/budvar-web/corporate/cms//budvar-corporate/o_spo
lecnosti/historie_BB_en.cms maybe it is answer.
Lazi
Lew Bryson
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> I was wonder about the name.Because for me it's strange intersection of
> facts. The name of Czech town Budejovice with Budejovicki Budvar and on
> the
> other side earth the same name of beer.I see connection between.So I've
> just
No more strange than that the Czech town of Plzn with Pilsner Urquell and
ALL OVER THE EARTH beers with the same name: pilsner. Kölsch is the
traditional style of beer in Köln, Germany, yet many breweries in the U.S.
make Kölsch.
> find somethink like this on the official website of Budvar
> http://www.budvar.cz/budvar/budvar-web/corporate/cms//budvar-corporate/o_spo
> lecnosti/historie_BB_en.cms maybe it is answer.
Pretty clearly states that the brewery was founded in 1895, almost 20 years
after Anheuser-Busch first produced a beer labeled "Budweiser." Yup. That's
what I said.
It really all depends on what question you're asking.
Lazi
> Lew Bryson
>
> www.LewBryson.com
> Author of "New York Breweries" and "Pennsylvania Breweries," 2nd ed., both
> available at <www.amazon.com>
Thanks for yours informations, I see you are expert in this subject ;-)
Best wishes from Poland!
Bartosz Łazarczyk
spamceme...@yahoo.co.uk
Steve Jackson
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> I was wonder about the name.Because for me it's strange intersection of
> facts. The name of Czech town Budejovice with Budejovicki Budvar and on
> the
> other side earth the same name of beer.I see connection between.So I've
> just
> find somethink like this on the official website of Budvar
> http://www.budvar.cz/budvar/budvar-web/corporate/cms//budvar-corporate/o_spo
> lecnosti/historie_BB_en.cms maybe it is answer.
You end up with quite a few things in the States being named after or
sharing names with European locations, thanks to immigrants naming things
after what they were familiar with. It's why there's New York, for instance.
In the case of Budweiser, the Anheuser and Busch families are Germanic, as
is obvious from the surnames. For a few hundred years, what's now the Czech
Republic was part of the Austrian Empire (later Austrian-Hungarian Empire),
so most town names had both their Czech and German forms. In this case,
Budejovice and Budweis. In German, "Budweiser" simply means "from Budweis."
Which explains why the name would be used in the States, and why the German
name ended up being used instead of the Czech. Much of the U.S. has a huge
German immigrant population; the Czechs never came over in large numbers.
-Steve
dug88
r u really sure your meds are working
is it my grand family or that family
u did nothing for family
why you care
the beer SUX
could care less odf who slobbers
"i am better than you"
AND U THINK THEY BELIEVED U ENLIGHTENMENT
ok who fucked off with the fire crackers?
give em back
next
Joel
>In German, "Budweiser" simply means "from Budweis."
>Which explains why the name would be used in the States, and why the German
>name ended up being used instead of the Czech.
Well, it doesn't exactly explain why a beer "from St. Louis"
would be called "from Budweis." But who am I to quibble?
--
Joel Plutchak "Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes
plutchak at [...] your time and it annoys the pig." -anonymous
sinistersteve
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Steve Jackson
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> Steve Jackson <stvja...@cox.net.no.spam> wrote:
>>In German, "Budweiser" simply means "from Budweis."
>>Which explains why the name would be used in the States, and why the
>>German
>>name ended up being used instead of the Czech.
>
> Well, it doesn't exactly explain why a beer "from St. Louis"
> would be called "from Budweis." But who am I to quibble?
Same reason beers from several thousand cities all over the planet are
called "beer from Pisen"? Or how Wisconsin somehow produces "cheese from
Parma," or California has "wine from Champagne"?
-Steve
notbob
> Budweiser isn't even a beer.
canoe beer
nb
The artist formerly Known as Bruce In Cleveland
for those that don't understand,
F**KIN CLOSE TO WATER
Joel
>"Joel" <plut...@see.headers> wrote:
>
>> Steve Jackson <stvja...@cox.net.no.spam> wrote:
>>>In German, "Budweiser" simply means "from Budweis."
>>>Which explains why the name would be used in the States, and why the
>>>German
>>>name ended up being used instead of the Czech.
>>
>> Well, it doesn't exactly explain why a beer "from St. Louis"
>> would be called "from Budweis." But who am I to quibble?
>
>Same reason beers from several thousand cities all over the planet are
>called "beer from Pisen"? Or how Wisconsin somehow produces "cheese from
>Parma," or California has "wine from Champagne"?
And "beer from Budweis" is parameterizably unique?
Lew Bryson
> Steve Jackson <stvja...@cox.net.no.spam> wrote:
>>"Joel" <plut...@see.headers> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Jackson <stvja...@cox.net.no.spam> wrote:
>>>>In German, "Budweiser" simply means "from Budweis."
>>>>Which explains why the name would be used in the States, and why the
>>>>German
>>>>name ended up being used instead of the Czech.
>>>
>>> Well, it doesn't exactly explain why a beer "from St. Louis"
>>> would be called "from Budweis." But who am I to quibble?
>>
>>Same reason beers from several thousand cities all over the planet are
>>called "beer from Pisen"? Or how Wisconsin somehow produces "cheese from
>>Parma," or California has "wine from Champagne"?
>
> And "beer from Budweis" is parameterizably unique?
Dick-waving, it's all dick-waving.