Slovakia heads beer league
Jomar Hønsi
beer in 20 countries. Moreover, I've rated every drop I've consumed during
this period (as best I could). The results are found below:
http://home.online.no/~jomar-h/beer/log/index.html
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Jomar Hønsi
http://home.online.no/~jomar-h
Nick
"Jomar Hønsi" <jom...@online.no> wrote in message news:8N4Z9.20475$Rc7.2...@news2.e.nsc.no...
PJKriha
> you must be joking about the UK being 6th. the beer here is gnat`s piss.
it's a free country, you get what you ask for....
Paul JK
Jomar Hønsi
"PJKriha" <kri...@actrix.co.nz> wrote in message
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> "Nick" <n...@spam.thx> wrote in message
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> > you must be joking about the UK being 6th. the beer here is gnat`s piss.
>
> it's a free country, you get what you ask for....
>
> Paul JK
>
background my UK "quality" rating might be a bit exaggerated. That said, the
best UK ales are as tasty as anything.
Jomar
Michael Hadac
Get a good medium cold beer from the tap and you've got something!
Michael.
"Jomar Hønsi" <jom...@online.no> wrote in message
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Oh, Guess
wrote:
>What is ale? How can ale be tasty? Yuck, Yuck, Yuck!
Damn, another troll. Ale can be quite tasty, especially to
those with the appropriate combination of functioning taste buds
and undamaged brain cells.
>Get a good medium cold beer from the tap and you've got something!
"Medium" cold beer? Wotthehell? Strange troll.
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PJKriha
> What is ale? How can ale be tasty? Yuck, Yuck, Yuck!
What is *ale*?
Just in case you really, really, didn't know, even though
I find it hard to believe :-)
The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
(eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
Paul JK
PS. Another term often misused is *drought*.
In some countries you can buy bottled *drought* :-)
Another is *lager*.... but I have to go to bed....
Jiri Borsky
> The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
> refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
> (eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
>
> Paul JK
>
> PS. Another term often misused is *drought*.
> In some countries you can buy bottled *drought* :-)
Drought happens when all the ale, beer and lager run out.
Draught, on the other hand.... :-)
Top fermenting beverages are yet to appeal to me; perhaps another 33
years in England will see to it.
It is not so much the taste that I find disagreable, but rather the
after-effects the next day. Any country out there interested in
very (ob)noxious gases?
JB
lubos
Ale - a fermented alcoholic beverage made of malt and hops, similar to
but heavier than beer
Michael Hadac
sure tastes bitter. I have tried many ales here in Canada that my friends
offered me at their house or their party. However, I would never buy it
because of the terrible taste.
There are also some "Black Ale" or darker ale beers here. But it is not the
color just the bitterness I don't like...
For example: I hate an "Extra Od Stock" "Moose Ale" "Black Guineess" etc.
Joooo, kez by se tu dal koupit normalni "Branik"... Ah, kde jsou ty casy.
I also like the Czechwar (Budejovicak) here, better than Pilsener Urquell.
<Just an opinion> Michael.
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Not really cold, but at the same time, not barely cold, I'd assume.
Richard
Oh, Guess
>"Michael Hadac" <mha...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<1aGZ9.136735$sV3.5...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>...
>> What is ale? How can ale be tasty? Yuck, Yuck, Yuck!
>
>What is *ale*?
>Just in case you really, really, didn't know, even though
>I find it hard to believe :-)
>
>The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
>refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
>(eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
Nope. All ales are beers. Bottom fermenting beers, like Pilsner,
Muenchner Helles, most Czech beers, German Bockbiers, and others,
are *lagers.* All lagers are also beers.
>Paul JK
>
>PS. Another term often misused is *drought*.
Espcecially when you misuse it. "Drought" is a water shortage.
The word you're looking for is "draught" (spelled "draft" in
American English).
>In some countries you can buy bottled *drought* :-)
You can buy bottled water shortages? Amazing.
>Another is *lager*.... but I have to go to bed....
When you wake up and read this, you'll have learned something
new. Nighty-night.
--
Nobody You Know
Oh, Guess
<bor...@dialz.pipexz.com> wrote:
>[...]
>Top fermenting beverages are yet to appeal to me; perhaps another 33
>years in England will see to it.
You've not tried Belgian ales? German and Austrian wheat beers?
Irish stouts? German Altbier and Koelsch? All top-fermenting beers,
too.
>It is not so much the taste that I find disagreable, but rather the
>after-effects the next day. Any country out there interested in
>very (ob)noxious gases?
Wodda load of steaming...
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Oh, Guess
>[...]
>
>Ale - a fermented alcoholic beverage made of malt and hops, similar to
>but heavier than beer
Nope. Ale is a type of beer. Lager is a type of beer. Lager is made
with malt and hops. Ale is made with malt and hops.
Nice try. Good luck getting it right next time.
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Nobody You Know
Leviathan
they have much better beer then American beer
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Jomar Hønsi
also notice that Belgium's missing.
Jomar
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DGS
> Wheres Canada on this list
> they have much better beer then American beer
They do? Which ones?
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DGS
Zdislav V. Kovarik
One will do for me: Steam Whistle.
Slavek(ZVK)
Jomar Hønsi
> >The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
> >refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
> >(eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
>
> Nope. All ales are beers. Bottom fermenting beers, like Pilsner,
> Muenchner Helles, most Czech beers, German Bockbiers, and others,
> are *lagers.* All lagers are also beers.
>
classes of beer.
Q: Are all bottom-fermented beers classed as lagers ?
Q: Stouts and porters are top-fermenting but are they class as ales ?
DGS
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, DGS wrote:
>
>>Leviathan wrote:
>>
>>>Wheres Canada on this list
>>>they have much better beer then American beer
>>
>>They do? Which ones?
>
> One will do for me: Steam Whistle.
Who brews it and where is it brewed? What style is it?
--
DGS
DGS
>>>The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
>>>refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
>>>(eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
>>
>>Nope. All ales are beers. Bottom fermenting beers, like Pilsner,
>>Muenchner Helles, most Czech beers, German Bockbiers, and others,
>>are *lagers.* All lagers are also beers.
>
> Indeed, the list I've compiled contains lagers and ales, i.e. the two main
> classes of beer.
>
> Q: Are all bottom-fermented beers classed as lagers ?
Yes. Tricky thing though: not all beers made with bottom-fermenting
yeasts are lagers. Anchor Steam, for instance. Some American "ales,"
like "cream ale," too; they're hybrid styles.
> Q: Stouts and porters are top-fermenting but are they class as ales ?
Yes. Technically, any top-fermenting beer can be broadly classed as
an ale, even a German wheat beer. German Altbier is an ale; compare
it to a Belgian beer like De Koninck, or a decent British ale.
--
DGS
Daniel McConnell
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Jomar Hønsi wrote:
>
> > >The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
> > >refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
> > >(eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
> >
> > Nope. All ales are beers. Bottom fermenting beers, like Pilsner,
> > Muenchner Helles, most Czech beers, German Bockbiers, and others,
> > are *lagers.* All lagers are also beers.
> >
> Indeed, the list I've compiled contains lagers and ales, i.e. the two main
> classes of beer.
>
> Q: Are all bottom-fermented beers classed as lagers ?
That is my understanding, yes.
> Q: Stouts and porters are top-fermenting but are they class as ales ?
yes.
Greg Clow
"DGS" <dSPAM...@NOSPAM.org> wrote in message
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Steam Whistle is a lager brewed in Toronto by a brewery by the same name -
website at http://www.steamwhistle.ca/ if you care to find out more.
They call it a Pilsner. It's really just a step or two above a macro-lager
IMO. Not horrible if you're sitting on a patio on a hot summer day, but I
wouldn't go out of my way for it.
Greg
Greg Clow
"DGS" <dSPAM...@NOSPAM.org> wrote in message
McAuslan's St. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout from Montreal is easily the best stout
I've ever had.
Denison's brewpub in Toronto brewed several world-renowned beers, including
a spectacular Wiezen, up until their unfortunate closure a couple of weeks
ago. Thankfully, there are plans to revive the Wiezen and perhaps a couple
of others as bottled beers later this year.
And I'd place more than one Unibroue product above almost any US beer I've
tried.
Greg
Zdislav V. Kovarik
Visit
Place: Steam Whistle Brewing The Roundhouse 255 Bremner Blvd.
Toronto, Canada M5V 3M9 (416) 362-2337 fax (416) 362-9916
Style: Pilsner
Slavek(ZVK)
Oh, Guess
<kov...@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, DGS wrote:
>
>> Zdislav V. Kovarik wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, DGS wrote:
>> >
>> >>Leviathan wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Wheres Canada on this list
>> >>>they have much better beer then American beer
>> >>
>> >>They do? Which ones?
>> >
>> > One will do for me: Steam Whistle.
>>
>> Who brews it and where is it brewed? What style is it?
>>
>Visit
>
>http://www.steamwhistle.ca/
>
>Place: Steam Whistle Brewing The Roundhouse 255 Bremner Blvd.
>Toronto, Canada M5V 3M9 (416) 362-2337 fax (416) 362-9916
>
>Style: Pilsner
>
>Slavek(ZVK)
I take it, then, that you've never heard of Victory Brewing,
in Downingtown, Pennsylvania? One of North America's best
breweries, and they brew an excellent hoppy Pilsner. Old
Dominion also brews Tupper's Hop Pocket Pilsner, and it's
damn good.
So much for Canada having "much better beer."
Next?
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Oh, Guess
<gr...@stainedproductions.com> wrote:
>"DGS" <dSPAM...@NOSPAM.org> wrote in message
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>> Leviathan wrote:
>>
>> > Wheres Canada on this list
>> > they have much better beer then American beer
>>
>> They do? Which ones?
>
>McAuslan's St. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout from Montreal is easily the best stout
>I've ever had.
Doesn't make it the "best" stout out there. Ever try Brooklyn
Black Chocolate Stout? Deschutes Obsidian Stout?
>Denison's brewpub in Toronto brewed several world-renowned beers, including
>a spectacular Wiezen, up until their unfortunate closure a couple of weeks
>ago. Thankfully, there are plans to revive the Wiezen and perhaps a couple
>of others as bottled beers later this year.
Go visit Victory's on-premises taproom in Downingtown, Pennsylvania.
Then come back and tell me all about "world-renowned" beers.
>And I'd place more than one Unibroue product above almost any US beer I've
>tried.
You've never tried Victory's V10 or Golden Monkey, or Dick's Grand
Cru from Young's Brewing, then.
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Jiri Borsky
> You've never tried Victory's V10 or Golden Monkey, or Dick's Grand
> Cru from Young's Brewing, then.
Golden Monkey = Zlata Opice.
Now there's a name for a beer to gladden the heart of any Czech alkie.
Jiri Borsky
FEEB
J2jurado
they have much better beer then American beer>>
I hear it's stronger than that 3.6% beer in the US...Canada brews 5% beer!
Jack Stone
"Jiri Borsky" <bor...@dialz.pipexz.com> wrote in message
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> PJKriha wrote:
>
> > The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
> > refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
> > (eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
> >
> > Paul JK
> >
> > PS. Another term often misused is *drought*.
> > In some countries you can buy bottled *drought* :-)
>
> Drought happens when all the ale, beer and lager run out.
> Draught, on the other hand.... :-)
>
> Top fermenting beverages are yet to appeal to me; perhaps another 33
> years in England will see to it.
They sprinkle cemeteries in England with beer? :-))))))
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Jack Stone
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J. Cimrman
Richard
> they have much better beer then American beer
Compare good Canadian microbrews to Bud/Coors/Miller and you're right.
Compare good American microbrews to Molson/Labatt and you're soooo wrong.
Compare a good Canadian microbrews to good American microbrews, and well
there are so many different beers and opinions that it's damn hard to say,
but I'd certainly have fun trying.
Compare Molson/Labatt to Bud/Coors/Miller and ... hmm ... why would anyone
want to do that? ;-)
Richard
Richard
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Labatt Blue.
HTH.
Richard
DGS
Well, I might agree that Labatt Blue smells slightly better
than the stuff flushed down the urinals of a good brewpub,
but as far as taste goes, I try to avoid stuff that smells
like that. YMMV.
I guess it's time to compare Labatt Blue to Victory Prima Pils
(apropos your other post in this thread).
--
'Bag
Greg Clow
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:58:31 GMT, "Greg Clow"
> <gr...@stainedproductions.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Wheres Canada on this list
> >> > they have much better beer then American beer
> >>
> >> They do? Which ones?
> >
> >McAuslan's St. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout from Montreal is easily the best
stout
> >I've ever had.
>
> Doesn't make it the "best" stout out there.
No, I suppose it doesn't. But based on that logic, *no-one* could ever say
that this beer or that beer is the "best" in it's style, as it's likely that
there's always going to be some examples out there that you haven't tried
yet.
> Ever try Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout?
Not yet, but I have a 6-pack sitting at a friend's place that I'll be
getting my grubby paws on tomorrow. Can't hardly wait!
> Deschutes Obsidian Stout?
Nossir. I'll add it to my constantly growing list of "beers to have one
day".
> >Denison's brewpub in Toronto brewed several world-renowned beers,
including
> >a spectacular Wiezen, up until their unfortunate closure a couple of
weeks
> >ago.
>
> Go visit Victory's on-premises taproom in Downingtown, Pennsylvania.
> Then come back and tell me all about "world-renowned" beers.
While I haven't had any Victory brews in person, I've had several of them
bottled, and have enjoyed them all. But putting Victory Whirlwind
head-to-head against Denison's Wiezen, I'd have to go with Denison's.
(I know it's not a completely fair comparison to put a Belgian style wheat
beer up against a German one, but I haven't had the pleasure of trying the
Victory Sunrise Weissbier yet.)
> >And I'd place more than one Unibroue product above almost any US beer
I've
> >tried.
>
> You've never tried Victory's V10 or Golden Monkey, or Dick's Grand
> Cru from Young's Brewing, then.
Well, the same friend who is holding that Brooklyn Black for me also got me
some V10 (as well as some Old Horizontal and Storm King). So I'll be able to
make a comparison soon. But it'll have to be damn good to come in ahead of
La Terrible or 10 for me.
Greg
Richard
> Richard wrote:
> > "DGS" <dSPAM...@NOSPAM.org> wrote in message
> > news:3E3964A7...@NOSPAM.org...
> >>Leviathan wrote:
> >>>Wheres Canada on this list
> >>>they have much better beer then American beer
> >>They do? Which ones?
> > Labatt Blue.
> Well, I might agree that Labatt Blue smells slightly better
> than the stuff flushed down the urinals of a good brewpub,
> but as far as taste goes, I try to avoid stuff that smells
> like that. YMMV.
Sorry, I thought I'd picked a sufficiently boring beer to make it blantantly
obvious that I was being anything but serious in my reply. I'll make sure to
use a smiley next time. ;-)
Seriously though, to me Blue is unique among the macrobrews in that it's the
only one that I find tastes consistantly... well... bad. All the Molsons,
Buds, Coors and what not are just boring but Blue seriously offends my taste
buds and makes me wonder WTF I was thinking when I was going through so much
of it back in my teens.
> I guess it's time to compare Labatt Blue to Victory Prima Pils
> (apropos your other post in this thread).
I'd love to.. well, actually that's not true, I'd prefer to skip the Blue
and just try some of this Victory you keep referring to in this thread. It's
not available here (Montreal) from what I've seen, though. Am I gonna have
to go to Pennsylvania or is it available elsewhere (NY or NJ would be a
start)?
Richard
PJKriha
Unfortunately *monkey* in English doesn't have the same
double meaning as *opice* in Czech. Well, at least it
doesn't over here down under. I presume, it's the same
over there up over.
Paul JK.
PS. I double checked with a Samoan cleaner who's just been
collecting junk from the rubbish bins. He thought it had
something to do with *spanking the monkey*.
I told him, no, he's got a wrong end of the stick!
PJKriha
> Jomar Hønsi wrote:
>
> >>>The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
> >>>refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
> >>>(eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
> >>
> >>Nope. All ales are beers. Bottom fermenting beers, like Pilsner,
> >>Muenchner Helles, most Czech beers, German Bockbiers, and others,
> >>are *lagers.* All lagers are also beers.
Sorry, I don't quite understand your ideolect.
What does your *nope* mean? What follows is then more-or-less
restating what I said.
> > Indeed, the list I've compiled contains lagers and ales, i.e. the two main
> > classes of beer.
> >
> > Q: Are all bottom-fermented beers classed as lagers ?
>
> Yes. Tricky thing though: not all beers made with bottom-fermenting
> yeasts are lagers. Anchor Steam, for instance. Some American "ales,"
> like "cream ale," too; they're hybrid styles.
Same here: *yes* really means *no*.
In some Continental breweries they brew beers of several different
gravities using the same bottom fermenting method. They tell you
that the ones called *lager* are more alcoholic (ie. they start with
more malt and yeast) and they lay maturing in the big casks for 10
or more days while the ordinary beers are mature in up to 7 days.
> > Q: Stouts and porters are top-fermenting but are they class as ales ?
>
> Yes. Technically, any top-fermenting beer can be broadly classed as
> an ale, even a German wheat beer. German Altbier is an ale; compare
> it to a Belgian beer like De Koninck, or a decent British ale.
Yope, broadly speaking that's correct.
Paul JK.
PJKriha
> "Jiri Borsky" <bor...@dialz.pipexz.com> wrote in message
> news:3E37BE...@dialz.pipexz.com...
> > PJKriha wrote:
> >
> > > The top fermenting beers in the Old Country are often
> > > refered to as *ales*, while the bottom fermenting beers
> > > (eg. Pilsener style) are always *beers* never *ales*.
> > >
> > > Paul JK
> > >
> > > PS. Another term often misused is *drought*.
> > > In some countries you can buy bottled *drought* :-)
> >
> > Drought happens when all the ale, beer and lager run out.
> > Draught, on the other hand.... :-)
> >
> > Top fermenting beverages are yet to appeal to me; perhaps another 33
> > years in England will see to it.
>
> They sprinkle cemeteries in England with beer? :-))))))
Yes, but not before it's been consumed.
Paul JK
Jiri Borsky
>
> Jiri Borsky <bor...@dialz.pipexz.com> wrote in message news:<3E3A77...@dialz.pipexz.com>...
> > Oh, Guess wrote:
> >
> > > You've never tried Victory's V10 or Golden Monkey, or Dick's Grand
> > > Cru from Young's Brewing, then.
> >
> > Golden Monkey = Zlata Opice.
> > Now there's a name for a beer to gladden the heart of any Czech alkie.
> >
> > Jiri Borsky
>
> Unfortunately *monkey* in English doesn't have the same
> double meaning as *opice* in Czech. Well, at least it
> doesn't over here down under. I presume, it's the same
> over there up over.
Your presumption is correct. Perhaps I should have been more precise:
"any Czech alkie speaking English".
>
> Paul JK.
>
> PS. I double checked with a Samoan cleaner who's just been
> collecting junk from the rubbish bins. He thought it had
> something to do with *spanking the monkey*.
> I told him, no, he's got a wrong end of the stick!
What a tale! (translate literally)
Jiri Borsky
Lew Bryson
> Cru from Young's Brewing, then.
Don: e-mail me. I can't sort your damned e-mail address out from your
SPAM-deflectors, and there's something I need to tell you.
Lew
FEEB
> Well, at least it
>doesn't over here down under. I presume, it's the same
>over there up over.
ROTFL!
Frank Bures, <fe...@chem.utoronto.ca>
PJKriha
you mean translate allophonically? homophonically? :-)
(to coinate a new wordkind)
Paul JK
>
> Jiri Borsky
Jiri Borsky
>
> Jiri Borsky <bor...@dialz.pipexz.com> wrote in message news:<3E3E3C...@dialz.pipexz.com>...
> > PJKriha wrote:
> > >
> > > PS. I double checked with a Samoan cleaner who's just been
> > > collecting junk from the rubbish bins. He thought it had
> > > something to do with *spanking the monkey*.
> > > I told him, no, he's got a wrong end of the stick!
> >
> > What a tale! (translate literally)
>
> you mean translate allophonically? homophonically? :-)
> (to coinate a new wordkind)
>
> Paul JK
This is getting complicated.
What a tale! = Jaka to prihoda. Jaky to ocas!
Frs^tenzii?
Jiri Borsky :-)
PJKriha
Javo'l, ich frs^te'n zi', naty'rlych unt zelpfrs^tenlich.
That is what I meant.
V anglictine 'prihoda', 'pohadka' a 'ocas' jsou homophones.
Paul JK.
(me complicating things? never!)
Jiri Borsky
> Javo'l, ich frs^te'n zi', naty'rlych unt zelpfrs^tenlich.
> That is what I meant.
> V anglictine 'prihoda', 'pohadka' a 'ocas' jsou homophones.
Zer ajnfach.
Uz jsem se lekl, ze jsou homophobes. To by nebylo PiiSii.
Polity korek.
Jiri Borsky
Jiri Borsky
Polity kly korek.
Se spuntovkou / sampusem na slona?