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Starbase

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:14:00 AM9/2/12
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I now have sychronet working as my telnet bbs. I use maximus bbs as my dial up
bbs system. I have dos doors that work well on maximus but I can't get them to
work on sychronet. I was wondering if anybody can help

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Nightfox

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Sep 2, 2012, 4:29:53 PM9/2/12
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Re: dos doors
By: Starbase to All on Sun Sep 02 2012 02:14:00

> I now have sychronet working as my telnet bbs. I use maximus bbs as my
> dial up bbs system. I have dos doors that work well on maximus but I can't
> get them to work on sychronet. I was wondering if anybody can help

Can you be more specific? What problems are you having getting DOS doors to
work? Also, are you running Synchronet in Windows or Linux?

Nightfox


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starbase

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Sep 5, 2012, 1:45:00 AM9/5/12
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To: Nightfox
Re: dos doors
By: Nightfox to Starbase on Sun Sep 02 2012 12:29:00

> Can you be more specific? What problems are you having getting DOS doors to
> work? Also, are you running Synchronet in Windows or Linux?
I running synchronet in windows xp. Well the doors that are working in maximus
on my dial up side of the board all look for a com port in the door.sys file
and sychronet does not use com ports. So like millianore said I need to find
doors that are designed to work with sychronet.
I still lock at the dos door setup to see if it has a telnet option

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Sunrise Door Software

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Sep 5, 2012, 8:07:59 AM9/5/12
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starbase said the following on 9/5/2012 1:45 AM:
> To: Nightfox
> Re: dos doors
> By: Nightfox to Starbase on Sun Sep 02 2012 12:29:00
>
> > Can you be more specific? What problems are you having getting DOS doors to
> > work? Also, are you running Synchronet in Windows or Linux?
> I running synchronet in windows xp. Well the doors that are working in maximus
> on my dial up side of the board all look for a com port in the door.sys file
> and sychronet does not use com ports. So like millianore said I need to find
> doors that are designed to work with sychronet.

Feel free to check out Sunrise Doors... 16-Bit versions work quite well with Synchronet!

http://sunrisedoors.com

Nightfox

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Sep 5, 2012, 11:54:36 AM9/5/12
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Re: dos doors
By: starbase to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 01:45:00

> I running synchronet in windows xp. Well the doors that are working in
> maximus on my dial up side of the board all look for a com port in the
> door.sys file and sychronet does not use com ports. So like millianore
> said I need to find doors that are designed to work with sychronet.

That's not true; door.sys is a standard drop file, and any door that works with
door.sys will work with Synchronet.

Nightfox


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Dreamer

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Sep 5, 2012, 5:16:40 AM9/5/12
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To: starbase
Re: dos doors
By: starbase to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 01:45 am

> I running synchronet in windows xp. Well the doors that are working in
> maximus on my dial up side of the board all look for a com port in the
> door.sys file and sychronet does not use com ports. So like millianore
> said I need to find doors that are designed to work with sychronet.
> I still lock at the dos door setup to see if it has a telnet option

Been a while since I've set any doors up, and I'm pretty sure someone will
reply shortly with more info, but in the meantime read the docs pertaining to
doors a little more carefully. I'm pretty sure Synchronet includes some COM
routines (think of it as a capture/redirect) to allow DOS doors that rely on
serial traffic to work.

I think I also remember there being a DLL you need to copy to your system32
directory; but I'm pretty sure all your DOS doors would be down if that were
the problem. :)

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Digital Man

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Sep 5, 2012, 3:18:32 PM9/5/12
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To: starbase
Re: dos doors
By: starbase to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 01:45 am

> Re: dos doors
> By: Nightfox to Starbase on Sun Sep 02 2012 12:29:00
>
> > Can you be more specific? What problems are you having getting DOS
> > doors to work? Also, are you running Synchronet in Windows or Linux?
> I running synchronet in windows xp. Well the doors that are working in
> maximus on my dial up side of the board all look for a com port in the
> door.sys file and sychronet does not use com ports.

Synchronet has both a FOSSIL driver and a virtual UART driver which looks like
a "com port" to DOS programs.

> So like millianore said
> I need to find doors that are designed to work with sychronet.

The Millionaire was wrong.

> I still lock at the dos door setup to see if it has a telnet option

It won't. DOS doors are supported in Synchronet by using doors that support the
"FOSSIL" standard or by using Synchronet virtual UART which fools the door into
thinking it's communicating over a physical UART (com port).

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The Millionaire

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Sep 5, 2012, 4:10:22 PM9/5/12
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To: Nightfox
Re: dos doors
By: Nightfox to starbase on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:54 am

> Re: dos doors
> By: starbase to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 01:45:00
>
> > I running synchronet in windows xp. Well the doors that are working in
> > maximus on my dial up side of the board all look for a com port in the
> > door.sys file and sychronet does not use com ports. So like millianore
> > said I need to find doors that are designed to work with sychronet.
>
> That's not true; door.sys is a standard drop file, and any door that works
> with door.sys will work with Synchronet.
>
> Nightfox
>
>
Nuke wars was a door game that used Dorinfo1.def and did not interface with
Synchronet, so I have to disagree there NF. Sorry.


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Mro

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Sep 5, 2012, 7:05:53 PM9/5/12
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Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 01:10 pm

> >
> > That's not true; door.sys is a standard drop file, and any door that
> > works with door.sys will work with Synchronet.
> >
> > Nightfox
> >
> >
> Nuke wars was a door game that used Dorinfo1.def and did not interface with
> Synchronet, so I have to disagree there NF. Sorry.



there are 2 different versions of door.sys some doorgames only work with one
or the other. that is when you use dorinfo1.def if you have issues with your
bbs sofware creating the dropfile the door is expecting

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Nightfox

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Sep 5, 2012, 11:32:52 PM9/5/12
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Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 13:10:22

> > That's not true; door.sys is a standard drop file, and any door that
> > works with door.sys will work with Synchronet.

> Nuke wars was a door game that used Dorinfo1.def and did not interface
> with Synchronet, so I have to disagree there NF. Sorry.

Ah, well Starbase was asking about doors that use door.sys, not Dorinfo1.def,
and I answered his email as such. Perhaps he was confused.

Nightfox


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Netsurge

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Sep 5, 2012, 7:25:44 PM9/5/12
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Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 01:10 pm

> Nuke wars was a door game that used Dorinfo1.def and did not interface with
> Synchronet, so I have to disagree there NF. Sorry.

Synchronet full supports rbbs style drop files (dorinfo#.def). I have many
games running on the Diskshop using that as a drop file.

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|08[|07=|15! diskshop bbs |08. |15http/ftp/nntp/telnet |08. |15bbs.diskshop.ca
|08[|07=|15! bbs-scene.org |08. |15where all the cool kids hang out

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The Millionaire

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Sep 5, 2012, 10:56:13 PM9/5/12
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To: Nightfox
Re: dos doors
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:32 pm

> Re: dos doors
> By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 13:10:22
>
> > > That's not true; door.sys is a standard drop file, and any door that
> > > works with door.sys will work with Synchronet.
>
> > Nuke wars was a door game that used Dorinfo1.def and did not interface
> > with Synchronet, so I have to disagree there NF. Sorry.
>
> Ah, well Starbase was asking about doors that use door.sys, not
> Dorinfo1.def, and I answered his email as such. Perhaps he was confused.
>
> Nightfox
>
>
No problem NF. I was just generalizing. I wasn't being specific either.


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The Millionaire

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Sep 5, 2012, 10:57:43 PM9/5/12
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Re: dos doors
By: Netsurge to The Millionaire on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:25 pm

> Re: dos doors
> By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 01:10 pm
>
> > Nuke wars was a door game that used Dorinfo1.def and did not interface
> > with Synchronet, so I have to disagree there NF. Sorry.
>
> Synchronet full supports rbbs style drop files (dorinfo#.def). I have many
> games running on the Diskshop using that as a drop file.
>
> |08[|07=|15! frank |07aka |15netsurge|08%%|15bbs-scene.org|08%%|15demonic
> |08[|07=|15! diskshop bbs |08. |15http/ftp/nntp/telnet |08.
> |15bbs.diskshop.ca |08[|07=|15! bbs-scene.org |08. |15where all the cool
> kids hang out
>
Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with Synchronet. So answrr
that one then.


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Dan C

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Sep 5, 2012, 11:53:30 PM9/5/12
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:57:43 -0700, The Millionaire wrote:

> To: Netsurge
> Re: dos doors By: Netsurge to The Millionaire on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:25
> pm
>
> > Re: dos doors By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012
> > 01:10 pm
> >
> > > Nuke wars was a door game that used Dorinfo1.def and did not
> > > interface with Synchronet, so I have to disagree there NF. Sorry.
> >
> > Synchronet full supports rbbs style drop files (dorinfo#.def). I
> > have many games running on the Diskshop using that as a drop file.
> >
> > |08[|07=|15! frank |07aka
> > |15netsurge|08%%|15bbs-scene.org|08%%|15demonic |08[|07=|15! diskshop
> > bbs |08. |15http/ftp/nntp/telnet |08. |15bbs.diskshop.ca |08[|07=|15!
> > bbs-scene.org |08. |15where all the cool kids hang out
> >
> Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with Synchronet. So
> answrr that one then.

Gee, did it ever occur to you that maybe you didn't have it configured
correctly...?

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To: Dan C
Re: Re: dos doors
By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Sep 06 2012 03:53 am

> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
No I followed the directions to a tee but no-go.

Frank Linhares

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Sep 5, 2012, 8:57:00 PM9/5/12
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To: The Millionaire
TM> Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with Synchronet. So an
TM> that one then.

Nuke wars probably didn't write the .def to spec as every other game that
uses an rbbs style drop file works just fine with synchronet.

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First Officer

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Sep 6, 2012, 9:04:25 AM9/6/12
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To: The Millionaire
Re: Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to Dan C on Wed Sep 05 2012 09:30 pm

> > Gee, did it ever occur to you that maybe you didn't have it configured
> > correctly...?
>
> No I followed the directions to a tee but no-go.

Not saying you didn't but I can't tell You the number of times over they years
I set up doors, and swear I did it just perfectly and it doesn't work, only to
turn around and find I left something stupid out, or even left out a / in a
path or did two like // or just mispelled something. It does happen.



Have a good One!
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The Millionaire

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Sep 6, 2012, 3:51:39 PM9/6/12
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To: Frank Linhares
Re: Re: dos doors
By: Frank Linhares to The Millionaire on Thu Sep 06 2012 12:57 am

> TM> Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with Synchronet. So
> TM> an that one then.
>
> Nuke wars probably didn't write the .def to spec as every other game that
> uses an rbbs style drop file works just fine with synchronet.
>
> |08[|07=|15! frank|08/|15netsurge|08%%|15bbs-scene.org|08%%|15demonic
> |08[|07=|15! misery bbs |08- |15miserybbs.com
> |08[|07=|15! bbs-scene.org |08- |15where the cool kids hang out
>
Nuke Wars was only specificated for 3 bbs boards. It was Remote Access, PC
Board and 1 more. Can't remember now.


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The Millionaire

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Re: Re: dos doors
By: First Officer to The Millionaire on Thu Sep 06 2012 09:04 am

> Re: Re: dos doors
> By: The Millionaire to Dan C on Wed Sep 05 2012 09:30 pm
>
> > > Gee, did it ever occur to you that maybe you didn't have it
> > > configured correctly...?
> >
> > No I followed the directions to a tee but no-go.
>
> Not saying you didn't but I can't tell You the number of times over they
> years I set up doors, and swear I did it just perfectly and it doesn't
> work, only to turn around and find I left something stupid out, or even
> left out a / in a path or did two like // or just mispelled something. It
> does happen.
>
>
>
> Have a good One!
> Mike
>
>
>
True Mike. Get a copy of it and try it out yourself then and see what I mena
then.


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Digital Man

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Sep 6, 2012, 5:24:34 PM9/6/12
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To: Nightfox
Re: dos doors
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:32 pm

> Re: dos doors
> By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Sep 05 2012 13:10:22
>
> > > That's not true; door.sys is a standard drop file, and any door that
> > > works with door.sys will work with Synchronet.
>
> > Nuke wars was a door game that used Dorinfo1.def and did not interface
> > with Synchronet, so I have to disagree there NF. Sorry.
>
> Ah, well Starbase was asking about doors that use door.sys, not
> Dorinfo1.def, and I answered his email as such. Perhaps he was confused.

And Synchronet supports doors that use the doorinfo#.def files too.

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Mro

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To: The Millionaire
Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to Netsurge on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:57 pm

> Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with Synchronet. So
> answrr that one then.


probably you set it up incorrectly.

link the file and i will check it out.

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Mro

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Sep 6, 2012, 8:49:27 PM9/6/12
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Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to Netsurge on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:57 pm

> > bbs |08. |15http/ftp/nntp/telnet |08. |15bbs.diskshop.ca |08[|07=|15!
> > bbs-scene.org |08. |15where all the cool kids hang out
> >
> Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with Synchronet. So
> answrr that one then.


well didnt interface is a bad way of reporting a problem.

i just check it out, and it runs fine locally, but when i run it with
the batchfile or command line, it gives me a ntvdm error.

is that the issue you had?

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Dan C

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On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:51:39 -0700, The Millionaire wrote:

> To: Frank Linhares
> Re: Re: dos doors By: Frank Linhares to The Millionaire on Thu Sep 06
> 2012 12:57 am
>
> > TM> Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with
> > Synchronet. So TM> an that one then.
> >
> > Nuke wars probably didn't write the .def to spec as every other game
> > that uses an rbbs style drop file works just fine with synchronet.
> >
> > |08[|07=|15! frank|08/|15netsurge|08%%|15bbs-scene.org|08%%|15demonic
> > |08[|07=|15! misery bbs |08- |15miserybbs.com |08[|07=|15!
> > bbs-scene.org |08- |15where the cool kids hang out
> >
> Nuke Wars was only specificated for 3 bbs boards. It was Remote Access,
> PC Board and 1 more. Can't remember now.

OK, that confirms it. You truly *are* clueless.


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To: The Millionaire
Re: Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to First Officer on Thu Sep 06 2012 12:52 pm

> > years I set up doors, and swear I did it just perfectly and it doesn't
> > work, only to turn around and find I left something stupid out, or even
> > left out a / in a path or did two like // or just mispelled something.
> > It does happen.
> > Have a good One!
> > Mike
> >
> True Mike. Get a copy of it and try it out yourself then and see what I
> mena then.

I'll take Your word, I was just saying. I don't want to pull out the rest of myhair working on a door that may just be defective ;-)


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The Millionaire

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Sep 6, 2012, 9:33:32 PM9/6/12
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To: Mro
Re: dos doors
By: Mro to The Millionaire on Thu Sep 06 2012 07:49 pm

> Re: dos doors
> By: The Millionaire to Netsurge on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:57 pm
>
> > > bbs |08. |15http/ftp/nntp/telnet |08. |15bbs.diskshop.ca |08[|07=|15!
> > > bbs-scene.org |08. |15where all the cool kids hang out
> > >
> > Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with Synchronet. So
> > answrr that one then.
>
>
> well didnt interface is a bad way of reporting a problem.
>
> i just check it out, and it runs fine locally, but when i run it with
> the batchfile or command line, it gives me a ntvdm error.
>
> is that the issue you had?
>
Yes it wouldn't run remotely only locally.


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Sep 6, 2012, 8:44:07 PM9/6/12
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To: Mro
Re: dos doors
By: Mro to The Millionaire on Thu Sep 06 2012 07:37 pm

> Re: dos doors
> By: The Millionaire to Netsurge on Wed Sep 05 2012 07:57 pm
>
> > Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with Synchronet. So
> > answrr that one then.
>
>
> probably you set it up incorrectly.
>
> link the file and i will check it out.
>

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Nightfox

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Sep 6, 2012, 10:41:10 PM9/6/12
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To: Digital Man
> > Ah, well Starbase was asking about doors that use door.sys, not
> > Dorinfo1.def, and I answered his email as such. Perhaps he was
> > confused.
>
> And Synchronet supports doors that use the doorinfo#.def files too.

I thought it did.. So far I haven't found any doors that haven't worked with
Synchronet due to a drop file issue.

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Mro

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Sep 6, 2012, 11:43:51 PM9/6/12
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To: Dan C
Re: Re: dos doors
By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Sep 07 2012 12:25 am

> > Nuke Wars was only specificated for 3 bbs boards. It was Remote Access,
> > PC Board and 1 more. Can't remember now.

> OK, that confirms it. You truly *are* clueless.


well , this is what it says in the install:

------------------------------İ BBS INFORMATION İ--------------------------

Please select which BBS type you run :

RemoteAccess Wildcat 3.0+ Pcboard 14.5+

QuickBBS/QBBS Exit to main More info ...


---------------------------------------------------------------------------



regardless, the game can only use dorinfoX.def and door.sys

not really anything special so i stopped messing with it with the ntvdm
crashes.

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Sep 6, 2012, 11:44:57 PM9/6/12
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Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to Mro on Thu Sep 06 2012 06:33 pm

> > i just check it out, and it runs fine locally, but when i run it with
> > the batchfile or command line, it gives me a ntvdm error.
> >
> > is that the issue you had?
> >
> Yes it wouldn't run remotely only locally.


alright, when you have an issue you should provide your door setup.
this includes, screen shots or cut and paste from scfg and the same from
the door settings.

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Sep 6, 2012, 11:45:42 PM9/6/12
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To: Nightfox
Re: dos doors
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Sep 06 2012 06:41 pm

> >
> > And Synchronet supports doors that use the doorinfo#.def files too.

> I thought it did.. So far I haven't found any doors that haven't worked
> with Synchronet due to a drop file issue.



sometimes you run into the issue i said before where it expects a different
type of door.sys, but you can always pick dorinfo1 or whatever instead.

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To: Mro
Re: dos doors
By: Mro to Nightfox on Thu Sep 06 2012 22:45:42

> sometimes you run into the issue i said before where it expects a
> different type of door.sys, but you can always pick dorinfo1 or whatever
> instead.

I thought the drop file formats were supposed to be standard.. but yeah, you
can always try a different one.

Nightfox


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Mro

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Re: dos doors
By: Nightfox to Mro on Thu Sep 06 2012 08:43 pm

> Re: dos doors
> By: Mro to Nightfox on Thu Sep 06 2012 22:45:42

> > sometimes you run into the issue i said before where it expects a
> > different type of door.sys, but you can always pick dorinfo1 or whatever
> > instead.

> I thought the drop file formats were supposed to be standard.. but yeah,
> you can always try a different one.


they're only standards if everyone adheres to them! :D

i'm short on time here, but i'm pretty sure this is the long format of
door.sys

http://wiki.bbses.info/index.php/DOOR.SYS

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> TM> Well Nuke Wars was Dorinfo.def and didn't interface with
> TM> Synchronet. So
> TM> an that one then.
>
> Nuke wars probably didn't write the .def to spec as every other game that
> uses an rbbs style drop file works just fine with synchronet.
>
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>
TM> Nuke Wars was only specificated for 3 bbs boards. It was Remote
TM> Access, PC Board and 1 more. Can't remember now.

that shouldn't matter, really... the drop file is the main thing /unless/ the
door makes changes to the user record and then that is what's important...
otherwise, the door should run on any system with the proper drop file and
contents of such...

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Sep 7, 2012, 2:32:33 PM9/7/12
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Mro> regardless, the game can only use dorinfoX.def and door.sys

Mro> not really anything special so i stopped messing with it with the
Mro> ntvdm crashes.

yup... that's a whole other problem and one specific to the OS environment...

mark lewis

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Sep 7, 2012, 2:33:36 PM9/7/12
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To: Nightfox

> sometimes you run into the issue i said before where it expects a
> different type of door.sys, but you can always pick dorinfo1 or whatever
> instead.

N> I thought the drop file formats were supposed to be standard.. but
N> yeah, you can always try a different one.

to a point, they are pretty standard... however, some are just enough different
than other that they may cause problems...

for instance, those that indicate a fossil needing to be used (COM1F vs COM1)
and then there's the numbering thing... some want COM0 for COM1 because
programers count from zero instead of one ;)

similar problems happen when a door doesn't like the provided FOSSIL driver for
some reason... i've had doors where i had to use x00 instead of bnu whereas
everything else ran fine with bnu...

First Officer

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Re: dos doors
By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 07 2012 06:29 pm

> TM> Nuke Wars was only specificated for 3 bbs boards. It was Remote
> TM> Access, PC Board and 1 more. Can't remember now.
>
> that shouldn't matter, really... the drop file is the main thing /unless/
> the door makes changes to the user record and then that is what's
> important... otherwise, the door should run on any system with the proper
> drop file and contents of such...

It's the door, Something causes it to not open via remote. I would just put it
down as a poorly made product. It's comm routines or it's use of a fossil may
be off. but I don't think it is fossil driven. It may be as You say Mark, it is
just not reading the door files that it should work with. But there are some
doors out there, the older ones that were not really robust code to begin with
and don't work well.



Have a good One!
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Re: Re: dos doors
By: The Millionaire to Frank Linhares on Thu Sep 06 2012 12:51:39

> Nuke Wars was only specificated for 3 bbs boards. It was Remote Access, PC
> Board and 1 more. Can't remember now.

What exactly does "specificated" mean? :P

Nightfox


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Re: dos doors
By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Fri Sep 07 2012 18:33:36

> > I thought the drop file formats were supposed to be standard..

> to a point, they are pretty standard... however, some are just enough
> different than other that they may cause problems...

> for instance, those that indicate a fossil needing to be used (COM1F vs
> COM1) and then there's the numbering thing... some want COM0 for COM1
> because programers count from zero instead of one ;)

As long as BBS software packages write a drop file consistently and doors read
them consistently, then things like that shouldn't be a problem. :)

> similar problems happen when a door doesn't like the provided FOSSIL
> driver for some reason... i've had doors where i had to use x00 instead of
> bnu whereas everything else ran fine with bnu...

I've heard that there are similar problems with some doors and Synchronet's
built-in FOSSIL driver. I've read (in this sub, I believe) that some
Synchronet sysops have had to set up NetFoss with some doors because they just
wouldn't work with Synchronet's FOSSIL driver. It seems those doors are very
rare though, and I haven't run into that problem myself - but I have heard that
NetFoss performs better, so some sysops have set up NetFoss anyway for some
doors that do a lot of ANSI screen drawing.

Nightfox


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Re: dos doors
By: mark lewis to The Millionaire on Fri Sep 07 2012 06:29 pm


> that shouldn't matter, really... the drop file is the main thing /unless/
> the door makes changes to the user record and then that is what's
> important... otherwise, the door should run on any system with the proper
> drop file and contents of such...


the game has issues, that's the issue. :D

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Re: dos doors
By: First Officer to mark lewis on Fri Sep 07 2012 08:02 pm

> it down as a poorly made product. It's comm routines or it's use of a
> fossil may be off. but I don't think it is fossil driven. It may be as You
> say Mark, it is just not reading the door files that it should work with.
> But there are some doors out there, the older ones that were not really
> robust code to begin with and don't work well.


well you could use filemon to see what it's trying to do. i wouldnt bother
though. i think it's just doing some illegal accessing of the file system.

could get it to run with bbs dosbox maybe. really, i dont think it's worth it.

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Re: dos doors
By: Nightfox to mark lewis on Fri Sep 07 2012 06:24 pm

> > COM1) and then there's the numbering thing... some want COM0 for COM1
> > because programers count from zero instead of one ;)

> As long as BBS software packages write a drop file consistently and doors
> read them consistently, then things like that shouldn't be a problem. :)


well there were a lot of people cutting their programming teeth on doorgames,
and a lot of teenage programmers, so it's not surprising that we have problems
with doorgames from time to time.

also in the past there were a lot of problems with being consitant with
everything. especially ibm compat hardware.

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Re: dos doors
By: Nightfox to mark lewis on Fri Sep 07 2012 06:24 pm

> I've heard that there are similar problems with some doors and Synchronet's
> built-in FOSSIL driver. I've read (in this sub, I believe) that some
> Synchronet sysops have had to set up NetFoss with some doors because they
> just wouldn't work with Synchronet's FOSSIL driver. It seems those doors
> are very rare though, and I haven't run into that problem myself - but I
> have heard that NetFoss performs better, so some sysops have set up NetFoss
> anyway for some doors that do a lot of ANSI screen drawing.

I have run across that several times, it is very rare, but it does happen. I
have seen a couple doors run under synchronet like they were at 1200 baud. Put
them under netfoss and they ran normally. I also ran telegard as a door and
actually used both sync and netfoss. depending on what terminal You were
running telnet on, if You used netfoss, You could upload and dl in bluewave
door and on telegard. If You were running syncterm it was better to go and use
non netfoss access. Wierd, but it does happen sometimes.


Have a good One!
Mike



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