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Leviathan
Jul 28, 2021, 6:36:57 AM7/28/21
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To: Digital Man
I'm unable to find any tutorials or information in regards to configuring the
web server portion in the Synchronet Control Panel. I've opened ports 80 & 443
through my router and firewall. I don't have a domain name but trying to just
use my external IP address to access the website. I can see the Web Server
recognizes a connection has been made to it but I get nothing reporting back in
the web browser.
7/28 06:32:47a 2564 HTTP connection accepted from: {My External IP Address}
port 59840
7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Request: GET / HTTP/1.1
7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Guest account unavailable
7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Sending file: F:\sbbs\temp\SBBS_SSJS.3252.2564.html (0
bytes)
Not sure if I misconfigured something, I'm missing a step, or whatever other
possibility there could be?
Thanks for any and all help / guidance.
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* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net
I'm unable to find any tutorials or information in regards to configuring the
web server portion in the Synchronet Control Panel. I've opened ports 80 & 443
through my router and firewall. I don't have a domain name but trying to just
use my external IP address to access the website. I can see the Web Server
recognizes a connection has been made to it but I get nothing reporting back in
the web browser.
7/28 06:32:47a 2564 HTTP connection accepted from: {My External IP Address}
port 59840
7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Request: GET / HTTP/1.1
7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Guest account unavailable
7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Sending file: F:\sbbs\temp\SBBS_SSJS.3252.2564.html (0
bytes)
Not sure if I misconfigured something, I'm missing a step, or whatever other
possibility there could be?
Thanks for any and all help / guidance.
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net
Leviathan
Jul 28, 2021, 8:03:39 AM7/28/21
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To: Digital Man
Forgot to mention I am running Windows 10 64bit Home Edition.
Services and Web Server is running.
I've configured the Interfaces (IPs) as my local machine. [Not certain of this
setting].
None of the Windows 10 Web Services are running, thought if they were it would
be conflict.
[General Tab] = Listening Port: = 80; Hostname Lookup = Unchecked; Max Client =
150; Max Inactivity = 120; Auth Types = Basic,Digest,TLS-PSK
[TLS Tab] = Enabled = True; HSTS Support = False; Interfaces = My Machines
Network IP address; Listening Port = 443
[HTTP Tab] = Default Settings. Virtual Hosts = False (unchecked).
[CGI Tab] = Enabled = True; and everything is is default settings.
I greatly appreciate any help!
Forgot to mention I am running Windows 10 64bit Home Edition.
Services and Web Server is running.
I've configured the Interfaces (IPs) as my local machine. [Not certain of this
setting].
None of the Windows 10 Web Services are running, thought if they were it would
be conflict.
[General Tab] = Listening Port: = 80; Hostname Lookup = Unchecked; Max Client =
150; Max Inactivity = 120; Auth Types = Basic,Digest,TLS-PSK
[TLS Tab] = Enabled = True; HSTS Support = False; Interfaces = My Machines
Network IP address; Listening Port = 443
[HTTP Tab] = Default Settings. Virtual Hosts = False (unchecked).
[CGI Tab] = Enabled = True; and everything is is default settings.
I greatly appreciate any help!
Digital Man
Jul 28, 2021, 4:52:06 PM7/28/21
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To: Leviathan
Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: Leviathan to Digital Man on Wed Jul 28 2021 03:36 am
> I'm unable to find any tutorials or information in regards to configuring
> the web server portion in the Synchronet Control Panel. I've opened ports
> 80 & 443 through my router and firewall. I don't have a domain name but
> trying to just use my external IP address to access the website. I can see
> the Web Server recognizes a connection has been made to it but I get nothing
> reporting back in the web browser.
>
> 7/28 06:32:47a 2564 HTTP connection accepted from: {My External IP
> Address} port 59840
> 7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Request: GET / HTTP/1.1
> 7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Guest account unavailable
> 7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Sending file: F:\sbbs\temp\SBBS_SSJS.3252.2564.html
> (0 bytes)
>
> Not sure if I misconfigured something, I'm missing a step, or whatever other
> possibility there could be?
>
> Thanks for any and all help / guidance.
If your gateway/router doesn't support hair-pinning, you might need to use your *internal* IP address to access it.
This would be true for the other servers (e.g. terminal server accessed via telnet, ssh, rlogin, and the FTP server) too. Are you able to login to the *other* servers using your *external* IP address?
--
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #30:
The COM I/O routines for Synchronet for DOS were written in ASM by Steve Deppe.
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Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: Leviathan to Digital Man on Wed Jul 28 2021 03:36 am
> I'm unable to find any tutorials or information in regards to configuring
> the web server portion in the Synchronet Control Panel. I've opened ports
> 80 & 443 through my router and firewall. I don't have a domain name but
> trying to just use my external IP address to access the website. I can see
> the Web Server recognizes a connection has been made to it but I get nothing
> reporting back in the web browser.
>
> 7/28 06:32:47a 2564 HTTP connection accepted from: {My External IP
> Address} port 59840
> 7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Request: GET / HTTP/1.1
> 7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Guest account unavailable
> 7/28 06:32:47a 2564 Sending file: F:\sbbs\temp\SBBS_SSJS.3252.2564.html
> (0 bytes)
>
> Not sure if I misconfigured something, I'm missing a step, or whatever other
> possibility there could be?
>
> Thanks for any and all help / guidance.
This would be true for the other servers (e.g. terminal server accessed via telnet, ssh, rlogin, and the FTP server) too. Are you able to login to the *other* servers using your *external* IP address?
--
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #30:
The COM I/O routines for Synchronet for DOS were written in ASM by Steve Deppe.
Norco, CA WX: 90.5øF, 34.0% humidity, 12 mph NE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
Leviathan
Jul 28, 2021, 11:19:59 PM7/28/21
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To: Digital Man
Thank you for your quick response!
I host an FTPES site using FileZilla on same router using the external IP
address and it works. I love the Synchronet BBS! I was able to get it
working. I missed the good ole days of being a BBS Sysop. I've just never
hosted a website before so this is a learning experience for me.
Note: I installed only the new version of the Synchronet Control Panel 3.18b.
I had initially installed it on my drive C: per default. Then I decided I
might need more room so I uninstalled the software and then re-installed it on
another drive with more space.
Are there any additional ports I need to open on the router and/or Firewall
other than port 80 and 443?
WS listens on port 1123 and WSS listens on port 11235. I'm also trying to be
careful as to how many ports I allow access through.
I greatly appreciate the help!
Thank you for your quick response!
I host an FTPES site using FileZilla on same router using the external IP
address and it works. I love the Synchronet BBS! I was able to get it
working. I missed the good ole days of being a BBS Sysop. I've just never
hosted a website before so this is a learning experience for me.
Note: I installed only the new version of the Synchronet Control Panel 3.18b.
I had initially installed it on my drive C: per default. Then I decided I
might need more room so I uninstalled the software and then re-installed it on
another drive with more space.
Are there any additional ports I need to open on the router and/or Firewall
other than port 80 and 443?
WS listens on port 1123 and WSS listens on port 11235. I'm also trying to be
careful as to how many ports I allow access through.
I greatly appreciate the help!
Leviathan
Jul 29, 2021, 9:52:15 AM7/29/21
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To: Digital Man
Here's a bit more detail which may help. (Hopefully).
From the same computer that I am hosting the website. I open a browser and as
the URL I enter: http://{MY EXT IP ADDRESS} and press Enter.
I can see the control panel Web Server is receiving my connection and the
connection does appear in the Client [TAB]. So this confirms I can connect
through my router to the webserver. What's not happening is that I'm not
seeing anything come back to my browser. I disabled my Windows Defender
firewall to make sure it was not causing a problem.
I can do the same with http://{MY INT IP ADDRESS} and same results.
Services Configuration: Services [TAB]: Only listing enabled Protocols
NNTP
MSP
ActiveUser
ActiveUser-UDP
Finger
Gopher
IRC
WS
WSS
Seems as though the server is somehow blocked and/or unable to send information
out to the browser.
Here's a bit more detail which may help. (Hopefully).
From the same computer that I am hosting the website. I open a browser and as
the URL I enter: http://{MY EXT IP ADDRESS} and press Enter.
I can see the control panel Web Server is receiving my connection and the
connection does appear in the Client [TAB]. So this confirms I can connect
through my router to the webserver. What's not happening is that I'm not
seeing anything come back to my browser. I disabled my Windows Defender
firewall to make sure it was not causing a problem.
I can do the same with http://{MY INT IP ADDRESS} and same results.
Services Configuration: Services [TAB]: Only listing enabled Protocols
NNTP
MSP
ActiveUser
ActiveUser-UDP
Finger
Gopher
IRC
WS
WSS
Seems as though the server is somehow blocked and/or unable to send information
out to the browser.
Digital Man
Jul 29, 2021, 2:18:04 PM7/29/21
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To: Leviathan
Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: Leviathan to Digital Man on Wed Jul 28 2021 08:19 pm
Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
> Thank you for your quick response!
>
> I host an FTPES site using FileZilla on same router using the external IP
> address and it works. I love the Synchronet BBS! I was able to get it
> working. I missed the good ole days of being a BBS Sysop. I've just never
> hosted a website before so this is a learning experience for me.
> Are there any additional ports I need to open on the router and/or Firewall
> other than port 80 and 443?
>
> WS listens on port 1123 and WSS listens on port 11235. I'm also trying to
> be careful as to how many ports I allow access through.
>
> I greatly appreciate the help!
https://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ports
--
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #69:
SEXYZ = Synchronet External X/Y/ZMODEM file transfer protocol driver
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Digital Man
Jul 29, 2021, 2:34:48 PM7/29/21
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To: Leviathan
Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: Leviathan to Digital Man on Thu Jul 29 2021 06:52 am
Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
>
> Here's a bit more detail which may help. (Hopefully).
> From the same computer that I am hosting the website. I open a browser and
> as the URL I enter: http://{MY EXT IP ADDRESS} and press Enter.
> I can see the control panel Web Server is receiving my connection and the
> connection does appear in the Client [TAB]. So this confirms I can connect
> through my router to the webserver. What's not happening is that I'm not
> seeing anything come back to my browser. I disabled my Windows Defender
> firewall to make sure it was not causing a problem.
>
> I can do the same with http://{MY INT IP ADDRESS} and same results.
> Services Configuration: Services [TAB]: Only listing enabled Protocols
> NNTP
> MSP
> ActiveUser
> ActiveUser-UDP
> Finger
> Gopher
> IRC
> WS
> WSS
> Seems as though the server is somehow blocked and/or unable to send
> information out to the browser.
file.
--
digital man
Breaking Bad quote #8:
I want Shania Twain to give me a tuggy. Guess what? That ain't happening either
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Leviathan
Jul 29, 2021, 8:46:31 PM7/29/21
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To: Digital Man
Progress!!! That worked! "HTTP://{EXTIPADDR}/Index.html" Awesome!
Not I need to get the default website up and running. I'll need help with that
as well.
Thank you!
Progress!!! That worked! "HTTP://{EXTIPADDR}/Index.html" Awesome!
Not I need to get the default website up and running. I'll need help with that
as well.
Thank you!
Leviathan
Jul 29, 2021, 8:46:32 PM7/29/21
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To: Digital Man
Sorry, typo I meant Now not Not.
Now I need to get the default website up and running. I'll need help with that
as well.
Sorry, typo I meant Now not Not.
Now I need to get the default website up and running. I'll need help with that
as well.
Digital Man
Jul 30, 2021, 1:03:07 AM7/30/21
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To: Leviathan
Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: Leviathan to Digital Man on Thu Jul 29 2021 05:43 pm
Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
> Sorry, typo I meant Now not Not.
> Now I need to get the default website up and running. I'll need help with
> that as well.
http://wiki.synchro.net/config:webv4
--
digital man
Breaking Bad quote #14:
First name of Emlio - that's at least half a beaner, let you off for $10 - Hank
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Leviathan
Aug 2, 2021, 12:47:16 PM8/2/21
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To: Digital Man
Update on resolution: I found that my ISP blocks port 80. So the work around
is to port forward on the router.
Basically point external port 8080 to your Server's IP Address Internal IP
Address 80.
So when you give our your IP Address to your server it will look like the
following:
Sample External IP Address = 59.75.125.242 (not my External IP address BTW).
So to connect to this web server you'd enter: http://59.75.125.242:8080
It works great!
Of course I could get a static IP address for about $20/month but I am cheap
skate and the alternative fix works very well for my needs.
Appreciate all the help and advice.
Thank you!
Update on resolution: I found that my ISP blocks port 80. So the work around
is to port forward on the router.
Basically point external port 8080 to your Server's IP Address Internal IP
Address 80.
So when you give our your IP Address to your server it will look like the
following:
Sample External IP Address = 59.75.125.242 (not my External IP address BTW).
So to connect to this web server you'd enter: http://59.75.125.242:8080
It works great!
Of course I could get a static IP address for about $20/month but I am cheap
skate and the alternative fix works very well for my needs.
Appreciate all the help and advice.
Thank you!
Leviathan
Aug 2, 2021, 12:49:42 PM8/2/21
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To: Digital Man
Sorry I meant:
Point (External Port) 8080 to the server's IP Address and forward it to
(Internal Port) 80.
Sorry I meant:
Point (External Port) 8080 to the server's IP Address and forward it to
(Internal Port) 80.
Leviathan
Aug 3, 2021, 1:26:17 PM8/3/21
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To: Digital Man
My ISP is relentless, they blocked port 8080 on me making it impossible to run
a web server without a static IP address.
I was able to check out both websites though. Really cool man! Very
impressive!
My ISP is relentless, they blocked port 8080 on me making it impossible to run
a web server without a static IP address.
I was able to check out both websites though. Really cool man! Very
impressive!
poindexter FORTRAN
Aug 5, 2021, 5:40:36 PM8/5/21
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To: Leviathan
Subject: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
@MSGID: <610C0595.613...@realitycheckbbs.org>
@REPLY: <61097C33....@vert.synchro.net>
@TZ: c1e0
-=> Leviathan wrote to Digital Man <=-
Le> My ISP is relentless, they blocked port 8080 on me making it impossible
Le> to run a web server without a static IP address.
I've read some interesting things about using Cloudflare or a VPS to act as
a front end to a firewalled home system. Seems like a lot of work, but could
be done.
Sounds like it's time for a new ISP, though.
I have a ton of bandwidth, but some ports blocked. I'm nostalgic for an old
DSL ISP I used back in the 2000s who treated everyone on his network like
their own sysadmin.
... The tape is now the music
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
ş Synchronet ş .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.
Subject: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
@MSGID: <610C0595.613...@realitycheckbbs.org>
@REPLY: <61097C33....@vert.synchro.net>
@TZ: c1e0
-=> Leviathan wrote to Digital Man <=-
Le> My ISP is relentless, they blocked port 8080 on me making it impossible
Le> to run a web server without a static IP address.
I've read some interesting things about using Cloudflare or a VPS to act as
a front end to a firewalled home system. Seems like a lot of work, but could
be done.
Sounds like it's time for a new ISP, though.
I have a ton of bandwidth, but some ports blocked. I'm nostalgic for an old
DSL ISP I used back in the 2000s who treated everyone on his network like
their own sysadmin.
... The tape is now the music
--- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
ş Synchronet ş .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :.
Digital Man
Aug 5, 2021, 8:33:15 PM8/5/21
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To: poindexter FORTRAN
Re: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Leviathan on Wed Aug 04 2021 07:24 am
> Subject: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
> @MSGID: <610C0595.613...@realitycheckbbs.org>
> @REPLY: <61097C33....@vert.synchro.net>
> @TZ: c1e0
Your messages are including QWK kludges again in the message body. You change something?
--
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #68:
SEXPOTS = Synchronet External Plain Old Telephone System (POTS) service
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Re: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Leviathan on Wed Aug 04 2021 07:24 am
> Subject: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
> @MSGID: <610C0595.613...@realitycheckbbs.org>
> @REPLY: <61097C33....@vert.synchro.net>
> @TZ: c1e0
--
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #68:
SEXPOTS = Synchronet External Plain Old Telephone System (POTS) service
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poindexter FORTRAN
Aug 8, 2021, 1:55:09 PM8/8/21
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To: Digital Man
@REPLY: <610C8347....@vert.synchro.net>
@TZ: c1e0
-=> Digital Man wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
DM> Your messages are including QWK kludges again in the message body. You
DM> change something? --
Not since changing settings a couple of weeks ago to show my origin line.
... Abandon desire
Subject: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
@MSGID: <610FEE68.613...@realitycheckbbs.org>
@REPLY: <610C8347....@vert.synchro.net>
@TZ: c1e0
-=> Digital Man wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
DM> Your messages are including QWK kludges again in the message body. You
DM> change something? --
Not since changing settings a couple of weeks ago to show my origin line.
... Abandon desire
Digital Man
Aug 8, 2021, 2:26:14 PM8/8/21
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To: poindexter FORTRAN
Re: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Fri Aug 06 2021 08:57 am
> Subject: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
> @MSGID: <610FEE68.613...@realitycheckbbs.org>
> @REPLY: <610C8347....@vert.synchro.net>
> @TZ: c1e0
> -=> Digital Man wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
>
> DM> Your messages are including QWK kludges again in the message body. You
> DM> change something? --
>
> Not since changing settings a couple of weeks ago to show my origin line.
Do you mind going to SCFG->Networks->QWK->Hubs->VERT and make sure you have it set the way shown on this page:
https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dove-net ?
--
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #3:
Synchronet version 2 was written in C and 8086 assembly programming languages.
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Re: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Fri Aug 06 2021 08:57 am
> Subject: Re: Trouble with Web Server configuration
> @MSGID: <610FEE68.613...@realitycheckbbs.org>
> @REPLY: <610C8347....@vert.synchro.net>
> @TZ: c1e0
> -=> Digital Man wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
>
> DM> Your messages are including QWK kludges again in the message body. You
> DM> change something? --
>
> Not since changing settings a couple of weeks ago to show my origin line.
https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dove-net ?
--
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #3:
Synchronet version 2 was written in C and 8086 assembly programming languages.
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Tracker1
Sep 5, 2021, 7:08:11 PM9/5/21
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To: Leviathan
like Linode or DigitalOcean. There's also a free tier with AWS EC2, but
would suggest a server with at least 2 vCPU and 2GB ram. There are
other options out there as well. For email, I would suggest an outbound
relay like
I've been running via Docker myself, which has worked well, but can
install directly very easily
Also worth mentioning is that you can use the Remote-SSH extension in VS
Code, and edit on the remote server pretty transparently. It would be
Linux, which means a slightly harder path to local dos doors, but likely
still worth it.
My first steps on the VPS (or any linux server) are:
- move native SSH port (reboot)
- upload my public key login (automatic if you add one via DigitalOcean)
- disable password login
- setup UFW (firewall), enable new SSH port and enable firewall
With this working, will then start to setup Services etc.
--
Michael J. Ryan - trac...@roughneckbbs.com
---
￭ Synchronet ￭ Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.com
On 8/3/2021 10:26 AM, Leviathan wrote:
> My ISP is relentless, they blocked port 8080 on me making it impossible to run
> a web server without a static IP address.
>
> I was able to check out both websites though. Really cool man! Very
> impressive!
I know this is old... but may be worth investing in a ~$10/month VPS
> My ISP is relentless, they blocked port 8080 on me making it impossible to run
> a web server without a static IP address.
>
> I was able to check out both websites though. Really cool man! Very
> impressive!
like Linode or DigitalOcean. There's also a free tier with AWS EC2, but
would suggest a server with at least 2 vCPU and 2GB ram. There are
other options out there as well. For email, I would suggest an outbound
relay like
I've been running via Docker myself, which has worked well, but can
install directly very easily
Also worth mentioning is that you can use the Remote-SSH extension in VS
Code, and edit on the remote server pretty transparently. It would be
Linux, which means a slightly harder path to local dos doors, but likely
still worth it.
My first steps on the VPS (or any linux server) are:
- move native SSH port (reboot)
- upload my public key login (automatic if you add one via DigitalOcean)
- disable password login
- setup UFW (firewall), enable new SSH port and enable firewall
With this working, will then start to setup Services etc.
--
Michael J. Ryan - trac...@roughneckbbs.com
---
￭ Synchronet ￭ Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.com
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