Door games.
Dark Blue Tory
EG: BRE/LORD/LORDII etc etc?
I mean, you can go and download Limewire for Free, Adaware for free, Christ,
128 MEGS of video ram in an online game called Anarchy Online and they still
want you to pay $15.00 to register an old DOS doorgame.
Is this right? WHy?
Have the INTER-BBS leagues dominated the BBS world to the point that we have
to pay for an old colourful TEXT DOS game?
Just a thought...and a question..
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Al
Dark Blue Tory wrote to All:
DBT> Can someone explain to me why door games even need to be registered
DBT> anymore?? EG: BRE/LORD/LORDII etc etc?
DBT>
DBT> Is this right? WHy?
Well, ten years ago there was a lot of shareware around. Most BBS packages
and door games had to be registered, it's just the way it was at the
time.
Even though nowadays I use open source software whenever I can (and I
don't think I have a need to use anything else) in the past I have
registered RA, FD, FastEcho, Bre/Fe and a whole slew of BBS doors.
Those BBS doors have their roots in a whole different time & place.
DBT> Have the INTER-BBS leagues dominated the BBS world to the point that we
DBT> have to pay for an old colourful TEXT DOS game?
There are quite a few BBS doors that don't need to be registered anymore,
the M & S doors a freely registerable now, The Clans and I'm sure there
are many more.. :)
Ttyl :-),
Al
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Al
Dark Blue Tory wrote to All:
DBT> Have the INTER-BBS leagues dominated the BBS world to the point that we
DBT> have to pay for an old colourful TEXT DOS game?
I should have mentioned last time, Vagabond has done quite a few doors
that are free, and adopted quite a few that are free now or freely
registerable. Check out his site at vbsoft.org.
Duece also has quite a few doors at doors.bbsdev.net and I think most
of them are free.
So go download.. :)
Ttyl :-),
Al
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Death
> registered RA, FD, FastEcho, Bre/Fe and a whole slew of BBS doors.
The problem I have with registering BRE is rather simple.. The game
has not been updated in 7 years now. I know it works, but there are
some bugs that need to be looked into.
John Daily doesn't seem to want to do anything new to it at all, but
still wants 15 bucks to register it. I understand the game was
originally written by Patel. Hell I don't know John Daily, he may not
be able to program his way out of a wet paper bag. =o)
But I probably will end up getting it registered soon to add IBBS
leagues to my BBS...
Death
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Deuce
Re: Door games.
By: Dark Blue Tory to All on Fri May 26 2006 10:42 pm
> Can someone explain to me why door games even need to be registered
> anymore??
Because they're not free.
> I mean, you can go and download Limewire for Free, Adaware for free,
> Christ, 128 MEGS of video ram in an online game called Anarchy Online and
> they still want you to pay $15.00 to register an old DOS doorgame.
They also want you to pay for a copy of Windows 3.0 if you want to install and
run it.
> Is this right? WHy?
Yes. It's theirs and if you want it, you can pay for it.
> Have the INTER-BBS leagues dominated the BBS world to the point that we
> have to pay for an old colourful TEXT DOS game?
Even before INTER-BBS leagues, you still had to pay for old colourfull text dos
games.
OTOH, if the entity is no longer around to take your money, I have no
compunctions against stealing my copy.
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Re: Re: Door games.
By: Al to Dark Blue Tory on Sat May 27 2006 12:43 am
Thanks, I was just asking because it seemed kind of ridiculous. I understand
the nostalgia and the reasoning behind the registering of BBS doors, but to
need to do it in 2006 stumped me.
Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
> Dark Blue Tory wrote to All:
>
> DBT> Can someone explain to me why door games even need to be registered
> DBT> anymore?? EG: BRE/LORD/LORDII etc etc?
> DBT>
> DBT> Is this right? WHy?
>
> Well, ten years ago there was a lot of shareware around. Most BBS packages
> and door games had to be registered, it's just the way it was at the
> time.
>
> Even though nowadays I use open source software whenever I can (and I
> don't think I have a need to use anything else) in the past I have
> registered RA, FD, FastEcho, Bre/Fe and a whole slew of BBS doors.
>
> Those BBS doors have their roots in a whole different time & place.
>
> DBT> Have the INTER-BBS leagues dominated the BBS world to the point that we
> DBT> have to pay for an old colourful TEXT DOS game?
>
> There are quite a few BBS doors that don't need to be registered anymore,
> the M & S doors a freely registerable now, The Clans and I'm sure there
> are many more.. :)
>
> Ttyl :-),
> Al
>
> ... Crime doesn't pay... does that mean my job is a crime?
>
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Door games.
By: Deuce to Dark Blue Tory on Sat May 27 2006 01:40 am
Your answer was blunt and to the point. I understand they need to be
registered because they're not free.
My question was more to invoke a discussion than ignorance on my part.
Simply rhetorical.
But are you serious on the copy of Windows 3.0? Hehehe...that's hilarious..
> Re: Door games.
> By: Dark Blue Tory to All on Fri May 26 2006 10:42 pm
>
> > Can someone explain to me why door games even need to be registered
> > anymore??
>
> Because they're not free.
>
> > I mean, you can go and download Limewire for Free, Adaware for free,
> > Christ, 128 MEGS of video ram in an online game called Anarchy Online and
> > they still want you to pay $15.00 to register an old DOS doorgame.
>
> They also want you to pay for a copy of Windows 3.0 if you want to install a
> run it.
>
> > Is this right? WHy?
>
> Yes. It's theirs and if you want it, you can pay for it.
>
> > Have the INTER-BBS leagues dominated the BBS world to the point that we
> > have to pay for an old colourful TEXT DOS game?
>
> Even before INTER-BBS leagues, you still had to pay for old colourfull text
> games.
>
> OTOH, if the entity is no longer around to take your money, I have no
> compunctions against stealing my copy.
>
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Re: Door games.
Thanks again...I'm going to go and check it out.
> Dark Blue Tory wrote to All:
>
> DBT> Have the INTER-BBS leagues dominated the BBS world to the point that we
> DBT> have to pay for an old colourful TEXT DOS game?
>
> I should have mentioned last time, Vagabond has done quite a few doors
> that are free, and adopted quite a few that are free now or freely
> registerable. Check out his site at vbsoft.org.
>
> Duece also has quite a few doors at doors.bbsdev.net and I think most
> of them are free.
>
> So go download.. :)
>
> Ttyl :-),
> Al
>
> ... My computer has a nut loose on the keyboard.
>
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Al
Death wrote to Al:
D> The problem I have with registering BRE is rather simple.. The game
D> has not been updated in 7 years now. I know it works, but there are
D> some bugs that need to be looked into.
That could be, but I know that John Daily pulled those doors out of
a Y2K death after he bought or was given (however that worked I dunno)
the code from Mehuel Patel. The thing with software is that it can be
worked on forever, but he did bring it to "a good place".
D> John Daily doesn't seem to want to do anything new to it at all, but
D> still wants 15 bucks to register it. I understand the game was
D> originally written by Patel. Hell I don't know John Daily, he may not
D> be able to program his way out of a wet paper bag. =o)
IIRC (and I may not, it's been a while) it was stipulated that current
registrations continue to work and the price wouldn't change, and
that's the way it still is today.
JD is quite a good programmer I would say, Dungeon Master is his own
work. I registered that one too back in the day.. :)
D> But I probably will end up getting it registered soon to add IBBS
D> leagues to my BBS...
ISA is quite a bit like BRE and it's free. It's not the same though
but that's an option..
Ttyl :-),
Al
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Al
Dark Blue Tory wrote to Al:
DBT> Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
The M&S doors by Mike Jordan are also freely registerable. These are
all puzzle doors, no blood/guts or gooie kablooie's.. :) You can get
these files here..
http://trmb.ca/files/filegate/dgn/dgn_dist/
There are are 10 of Mike's files in that directory and they are all
freely registerable and (with the exception of Peg-Jump) InterBBS
palyable. You can get the registration info from the M&S_INFO.DIZ from
any of those files, just email him the rego form.. The files are more
than five years old but he still responds to email AFAIK.
Ttyl :-),
Al
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Cyron
> EG: BRE/LORD/LORDII etc etc?
Basically, because it's the law. The copyright owner is entitled to
set the terms and conditions for use of their software products. The
duration of a copyright varies, but the minimum time frame you are
looking at is the duration of the copyright owners life plus 70 years.
> I mean, you can go and download Limewire for Free, Adaware for free, Christ,
> 128 MEGS of video ram in an online game called Anarchy Online and they still
> want you to pay $15.00 to register an old DOS doorgame.
There are numerous quality software products available for free.
Synchronet, Linux, etc. The software authors have *chosen* to dedicate
their time and abilities to the general public. Others provide
products "freely" but still follow a marketing model which allows them
to obtain revenue through other paths. The main thing to keep in mind
is that any software program represents the work of at least one
programmer -- its up to them to decide what they do with their efforts.
Useful software typically finds competition resulting in lower
licensing prices. In the case of BBS software, it is a niche market
and therefore has limited competition, helping the software products
retain some of their value.
I am a software engineer and would love to design doors and oher bbs
tools, but as you have pointed out, many SysOps don't want to shell out
$15 for a program. I don't blame them -- after all they're typically
providing a free service to their users who would be the people playing
the games anyways. It's a tough market and I can't say I'd honestly
feel that great selling a simple door game when people like Digital Man
are providing an amazing piece of software for free.
I definitely believe its important to support those things that you
value -- register if you use it, donate even if something is free. It
makes all the difference to the people writing the code.
-Mike
MRoblivious1bmf
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Dark Blue Tory said it to All on Sat May 27 2006 03:29 am
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> Can someone explain to me why door games even need to be registered anymore?
> EG: BRE/LORD/LORDII etc etc?
because shareware authors are greedy bitches who just do it to get paid.
see:doormud :D
but, i guess that's their right, just as it's our right not to use their
crippled programs that arent worth more than 5 bucks max.
Frank Vest
PLEASE POST ON THE BOTTOM OF THE MESSAGE!
> Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
MRoblivious1bmf
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Frank Vest said it to alt.bbs.synchronet on Sat May 27 2006 09:42 pm
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> PLEASE POST ON THE BOTTOM OF THE MESSAGE!
> > Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
> http://www.bbsfiles.com/ftp/
i'm also preparing a website of "preregistered" abandonware doorgames.
btw, does anybody have anything decent for creating html file listings with
file_id.diz descriptions?
i have a files.bbs > html converter, but that's going to take a lot of
tweaking, and i'm trying to refrain from coding something myself, i dont
really have that much time... plus i need to get in a certain mindset for
programming.
MRoblivious1bmf
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> I am a software engineer and would love to design doors and oher bbs
> tools, but as you have pointed out, many SysOps don't want to shell out
> $15 for a program. I don't blame them -- after all they're typically
why not just write them for the love of making them?
why always charge start off with the mindset of charging for it/
> I definitely believe its important to support those things that you
> value -- register if you use it, donate even if something is free. It
> makes all the difference to the people writing the code.
well, i dont believe in supporting shareware. i think most of it is
worthless.
infact, i wont purchase anything unless i can get it in its
physical form, in an actual store.
i only buy reputable software.
now, that being said.. i, along with others did 'register' lord.
why? it was a good product, and it wasn't overpriced.
that's probably why seth robinson made more money than most of these
'authors'.. he developed a superior product, and he was a nice, reliable
person who you could easily contact.
i have heard countless stories of people who have tried to register to
today's bbs software authors only to get ripped off or ignored.
i think the bbs scene is a good example regarding the fact that..you can TRY
to charge money for it.. but no matter how small it is, you wont be getting
those 'registrations' unless you have a decent product.
and sadly, most of those people dont produce such a thing.
it sounds harsh, but if they believe they can charge money for their product,
they cant gave it both ways.. sure they are doing it as a hobby.. but they
cant use that excuse and expect to be treated seriously.
Digital Man
Re: Re: Door games.
By: MRoblivious1bmf to Frank Vest on Sat May 27 2006 11:07 pm
> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
>
> To: Frank Vest
> .,: This is something about Re: Door games.,
> Frank Vest said it to alt.bbs.synchronet on Sat May 27 2006 09:42 pm
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> > From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
>
>
> > PLEASE POST ON THE BOTTOM OF THE MESSAGE!
>
> > > Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
>
> > http://www.bbsfiles.com/ftp/
>
> i'm also preparing a website of "preregistered" abandonware doorgames.
>
> btw, does anybody have anything decent for creating html file listings with
> file_id.diz descriptions?
Yeah, it's called "Synchronet". :-)
See ftp://vert.synchro.net/main/bbs/00index.html for an example.
> i have a files.bbs > html converter, but that's going to take a lot of
> tweaking, and i'm trying to refrain from coding something myself, i dont
> really have that much time... plus i need to get in a certain mindset for
> programming.
And why not just use the Synchronet FTP server?
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Door games.
By: MRoblivious1bmf to Dark Blue Tory on Sat May 27 2006 01:03 pm
Hehehe.
Windows drove me nuts in those days, I always used DOS.
Now I can't live without my XP..
> To: Dark Blue Tory
> .,: This is something about Door games.,
> Dark Blue Tory said it to Deuce on Sat May 27 2006 11:02 am
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > But are you serious on the copy of Windows 3.0? Hehehe...that's hilariou
>
>
> please excuse deuce.. he is living in the dark ages.. his fastest computer i
> a c-64 :D j/k!
>
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Door games.
> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
>
> To: Dark Blue Tory
> .,: This is something about Door games.,
> Dark Blue Tory said it to All on Sat May 27 2006 03:29 am
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>
> > Can someone explain to me why door games even need to be registered anymo
> > EG: BRE/LORD/LORDII etc etc?
>
> because shareware authors are greedy bitches who just do it to get paid.
> see:doormud :D
>
> but, i guess that's their right, just as it's our right not to use their
> crippled programs that arent worth more than 5 bucks max.
>
Hahaha. Well, why does a dog lick his you-know-whats? 'Cause he CAN.
That's why they do it because people will still pay for it. $15.00 is still
a bit steep..;)
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Death
> ISA is quite a bit like BRE and it's free. It's not the same though
> but that's an option..
I have ISA on the BBS. It seems to be a pretty good game. Don't have
it setup IBBS yet though, just a local game..
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> > btw, does anybody have anything decent for creating html file listings wi
> Yeah, it's called "Synchronet". :-)
dude, dont try schooling me! :D i've ran synchronet for almost six years.
there is a limitation of how logon of a file path you can enter in scfg, AND,
i have a LARGE nested directory structure.
i'm not going to dump my bbs cds, and various structured file archives into a
few directories so synchronet can handle it.
aside from the fact that it would ruin the quality of my collection,
synchronet wouldnt be able to handle the number of files i would have in
these hypothetical directories.
> And why not just use the Synchronet FTP server?
'cause it doesnt have balls. i use filezilla. i prefer it. it's feature rich.
also, it allows me to put all the files i have online, create various
accounts, and limit bandwith of those accounts.
i truly WISH i should put all my files up via the synchronet webserver, and
have a html interface, but it's not good enough yet.
MRoblivious1bmf
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> That's why they do it because people will still pay for it. $15.00 is still
> a bit steep..;)
i say do it cause you like it. not because you want to make a buck off of
people.. cause you wont be around that long that way. look at doormud.
that guy made as many registrations that he could make, then took off.
Tharius
"Dark Blue Tory" <dark.blue.tory@VERT/CEIII> wrote in message
news:44786988....@cethree.synchro.net...
> Thanks, I was just asking because it seemed kind of ridiculous. I
> understand
> the nostalgia and the reasoning behind the registering of BBS doors, but
> to
> need to do it in 2006 stumped me.
>
> Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
Heya DBT.
I've followed your thread and the answer is plainly, if the author decides
to ask for a couple bucks, you have to pay it.
Now, I've struggled back and forth with the issue myself, as a sysop who
uses door games, and also as someone who is attempting to resurrect doors
that I coded back in the 90's.
There seems to be some agreement.
1-If it's abandoned, crack it. This includes old versions of doors that the
author still floats around but doesn't support the software properly (and
this definately includes me. As of right now I hand out free Lore and Melee
keys legit because the software is not properly supported ... there is
another software that is used for IBBS games that ends in ?RE, ?E and ?obal
?ars previously by ?olar ?ealms that I think falls into this category, but
that's an opinion).
2-If the author is updating it and asking for some fee, pay it. A LOT of
the coders around now adays are full time programmers who program BBS utils
as a creative outlet and don't care if they make a buck or not. Some
authors are paying off the programming utils they bought at the bookstore
with the registrations. If the author is active, and supporting the
product, or if the product is stable ... pay them or don't run it.
3-If the author has made the util open source, still drop an email thanking
them, and/or share your code updates with them. I'm not sure if this is
required by the distribution licence, but it's still a decent thing to do.
That's my $0.02, you're welcome to it.
Keep the change :)
Steve
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Tharius
It's rare that I reply to your posts because I know how much you're
filtered, but this one was not only worthy of reply, but it was right on the
mark in some regards :)
"MRoblivious1xxx" <mroblivious1xxx@VERT> wrote in message
news:44789109....@eob.darktech.org...
> > I am a software engineer and would love to design doors and oher bbs
> > tools, but as you have pointed out, many SysOps don't want to shell out
> > $15 for a program. I don't blame them -- after all they're typically
>
> why not just write them for the love of making them?
> why always charge start off with the mindset of charging for it/
Sometimes the mindset is to break even. Again, what you can afford to pay
for a hobby, depends a lot on your age. At 30 I can afford to spend $100 at
the bookstore to buy some development software because I want to and will
derive enjoyment. At 20 I couldn't. *shrug* Sometimes it's just a hope of
break even.
However, that was 1992 or so. Now adays I think your point comes into play
much more heavily :
> > I definitely believe its important to support those things that you
> > value -- register if you use it, donate even if something is free. It
> > makes all the difference to the people writing the code.
[...]
> now, that being said.. i, along with others did 'register' lord.
> why? it was a good product, and it wasn't overpriced.
> that's probably why seth robinson made more money than most of these
> 'authors'.. he developed a superior product, and he was a nice, reliable
> person who you could easily contact.
[...]
> to charge money for it.. but no matter how small it is, you wont be
> getting
> those 'registrations' unless you have a decent product.
If someone puts out a decent products and asks $15 for it, I'll shell out.
This isn't the early 90's where someone can expect to make a living on this
any more. I think anyone here is either here because they really love
BBSing or they want to hone their skills or some similar reason. If you can
make a buck in this environment, then more power to you, but don't expect to
make a living.
Myself, my motivation is practice practice practice.
MRoblivious1bmf
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Tharius said it to Dark Blue Tory on Sun May 28 2006 03:15 am
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> this definately includes me. As of right now I hand out free Lore and Melee
> keys legit because the software is not properly supported ... there is
> another software that is used for IBBS games that ends in ?RE, ?E and ?obal
> ?ars previously by ?olar ?ealms that I think falls into this category, but
> that's an opinion).
yeah, speaking of JOHN DAILY... i've heard he likes to cash CHECKS right
away, but takes FOREVER to actually take the 2 seconds to email that
registration key.
how many people have had this problem, too?
MRoblivious1bmf
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> To: MRoblivious1bmf It's rare that I reply to your posts because
> I know how much you're filtered, but this one was not only worthy
> of reply, but it was right on the mark in some regards :)
i'm not as filtered as you think i am. thanks for the condencending remark.
Tracker1
Deuce wrote:
> OTOH, if the entity is no longer around to take your money, I have no
> compunctions against stealing my copy.
Pretty much feel the same.. if it's still able to be registered, then
I would do that.. otherwise, crack/key/steal away.
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like to see is someone who has the time take say 100 door games ..the most
common ones or the ones that people know they can either pay or get free reg
codes for (i assume the free reg codes ones you could just install as such)
anyway...the sysop with time puts these 100 said doors up on SBBS under the
default version and then even thou it is a large file...a SBBS sysop could
then do the following
1) install latest version of SBBS using default pathways etc (ie no changes
to make compatible off the get go)
2) do the tweaks for dynamic DNS the "yourname.synchro.net" setup
3) download this large file using a common download manager if the file is
large and then take said default door game(s) setup (much like the doors you
get but many more) and just put it under the proper dir..now i'm not a
programmer ...so even if some kinda special SBBS tweak would need to be done
to accomadate a standard large doorgame setup off the get go..i'd think it
might be worth it
viola...you can then either contribute to the door process and make it
bigger ...from my point of view i'd rather have it bigger and take doors out
i don't like then vice versa and put them in one at a time
anyway just a thought....would certainly add a lot to SBBS standard
and i think as far as graphics there is a kit for that around as well
anyway....i'd guess from the more or less common 100 doorgames out there i'd
only be strange enough to add 10 to 20 other then what ever someone else
would think to use....and it gets around this whole re-inventing the
wheel...
as a non-programmer bundling to me is best...and door setup is the most
frustrating thing from my point of view to do
as far as registration etc....demo versions are fine or keys provided for
freeware etc would be the indiv sysops to do but those locations could be in
the FAQ
(hey i'm dumb and lazy)
anyway my 2c worth
brad
former sysop lost gonzo bbs
lurking
Digital Man
Re: Re: Door games.
By: MRoblivious1bmf to Digital Man on Sun May 28 2006 02:18 am
> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
>
> To: Digital Man
> .,: This is something about Re: Door games.,
> Digital Man said it to MRoblivious1bmf on Sat May 27 2006 11:59 pm
> --ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД-ДДДД---ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД---ДДДДДДДДД--ДДДДДДДД
> > > btw, does anybody have anything decent for creating html file listings
> > > file_id.diz descriptions?
>
> > Yeah, it's called "Synchronet". :-)
>
> dude, dont try schooling me! :D i've ran synchronet for almost six years.
>
> there is a limitation of how logon of a file path you can enter in scfg,
63 chars ain't enough?
> AND i have a LARGE nested directory structure.
>
> i'm not going to dump my bbs cds, and various structured file archives into
> few directories so synchronet can handle it.
You could use 'subst' to create virtual drives to shorten those paths (without
moving any files or dirs).
> aside from the fact that it would ruin the quality of my collection,
> synchronet wouldnt be able to handle the number of files i would have in
> these hypothetical directories.
More than 10,000 file *per* directory?!?
> > And why not just use the Synchronet FTP server?
>
> 'cause it doesnt have balls.
I disagree. <shrug>
> i truly WISH i should put all my files up via the synchronet webserver, and
> have a html interface, but it's not good enough yet.
Um... you mean the FTP server?
digital man
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Al
Death wrote to Al:
D> > ISA is quite a bit like BRE and it's free. It's not the same though
D> > but that's an option..
D>
D> I have ISA on the BBS. It seems to be a pretty good game. Don't have
D> it setup IBBS yet though, just a local game..
I wonder if Lord Time runs ISA in League 10? I have run it in IBBS mode
before. It's not as easy to setup as BRE in IBBS mode. BRE leads the
pack when it comes to transfering IBBS files.
Ttyl :-),
Al
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-=> With interpidation and the MAGIC of QWK Mail Dark Blue Tory wrote to Deuce
<=-
DBT> Re: Door games.
DBT> By: Deuce to Dark Blue Tory on Sat May 27 2006 01:40 am
DBT> Your answer was blunt and to the point. I understand they need to be
DBT> registered because they're not free.
DBT> My question was more to invoke a discussion than ignorance on my part.
DBT> Simply rhetorical.
DBT> But are you serious on the copy of Windows 3.0? Hehehe...that's
DBT> hilarious..
DOS is still *NOT FREE*
Maybe if MORE people had paid for games, they authors might still be
around, updating and writing NEW stuff...
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Re: Door games.
By: MRoblivious1bmf to Dark Blue Tory on Sun May 28 2006 03:18 am
> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
>
> To: Dark Blue Tory
> .,: This is something about Door games.,
> Dark Blue Tory said it to MRoblivious1bmf on Sun May 28 2006 12:56 am
> --ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД-ДДДД---ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД---ДДДДДДДДД--ДДДДДДДД
>
> > That's why they do it because people will still pay for it. $15.00 is st
> > a bit steep..;)
>
> i say do it cause you like it. not because you want to make a buck off of
> people.. cause you wont be around that long that way. look at doormud.
>
> that guy made as many registrations that he could make, then took off.
>
I'm not familiar with DOORMUD anyway, what was it?
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Tharius to Dark Blue Tory on Sat May 27 2006 11:53 pm
Heheh, well, it makes sense. It wasn't really that much of a complaint on my
end, I was just questioning the need for it and are there really that many
people requesting registrations.
That's all..;)
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Death
> yeah, speaking of JOHN DAILY... i've heard he likes to cash CHECKS right
> away, but takes FOREVER to actually take the 2 seconds to email that
> registration key.
> how many people have had this problem, too?
Well, I haven't sent him the money as of yet, so I don't know, but
will let everyone know when I do. But I do know this about J.D., I
emailed him with a question about registration over 3 months ago, and
still no response.. Makes me wonder if he even cares or not..
Death
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Deuce
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Al to Death on Sat May 27 2006 09:13 am
> D> John Daily doesn't seem to want to do anything new to it at all, but
> D> still wants 15 bucks to register it. I understand the game was
> D> originally written by Patel. Hell I don't know John Daily, he may not
> D> be able to program his way out of a wet paper bag. =o)
>
> IIRC (and I may not, it's been a while) it was stipulated that current
> registrations continue to work and the price wouldn't change, and
> that's the way it still is today.
I have virtual certainty that JD has not yet collected enough $15 registrations
to cover the cost of buying BRE.
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Re: Door games.
By: Dark Blue Tory to Deuce on Sat May 27 2006 11:02 am
> Your answer was blunt and to the point. I understand they need to be
> registered because they're not free.
But there has always been a problem with self-justifying people useing just
such statements to make themselves feel better about piracy of all sorts. In
general, they fall into three categories:
1) "It's not worth what they want" the idea being that it's worthless (which
makes one wonder why they want it in the first place)
2) "It's not hurting anyone" the idea being that the people who created the
thing have already been amply compensated by someone else, so additional
compensation is just leeching the public.
3) "If the only way for me to get it was to pay, I'd do without it, so (#2)"
I've never understood this one enough to reply to it. Closes I can get is a
combination of #1 and #2.
In the BBS world, there are very very few pieces of software which have ever,
in their entire lifespan (generally 10-20 years) earned enough money to have
even paid minimum wage to those who wrote them for the time taken to write
them. Someone expecting to make minimum wage for the time they spend working
on something isn't off-base to my mind (it's *silly* to expect that in the BBS
world, but in theory, they have every right to try to pull it off).
> My question was more to invoke a discussion than ignorance on my part.
> Simply rhetorical.
But all kinds of people are asking similar rhetorical questions about almost
everything that you can get onto digital media.
> But are you serious on the copy of Windows 3.0? Hehehe...that's
> hilarious..
Yep.
Frank Vest
> end, I was just questioning the need for it and are there really that many
> people requesting registrations.
>
> That's all..;)
In my opinion: We have very few programmers in the BBS world today.
Why?? Because there is no money in it. Most have moved on to other
places and jobs. When the BBS, and computer,, world was young,, a
programmer could make a living creating BBS doors and selling
registrations to them. Now,, everyone wants these doors to be freeware
and still get the support and tech help that used to be common. I can
see where it would be hard for DM to give away Synchronet and then pay
for phone lines and support techs to handle the questions that are asked
in the Synchronet support forum. Fortunately, there are a lot of Sysops
willing to help other Sysops and newbies with Synchronet. Most door game
authors aren't so lucky and few BBS software authors are that lucky.
Of course, the other side of that coin is that BBSs don't pay like they
used to either. That leaves Sysops with less money to pay registrations.
And that is why we have less Sysops. ;)
It's a "snowball effect".
Just my .02
Regards,
Frank
Sniper
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MR> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
MR> To: Tharius
MR> .,: This is something about Re: Door games.,
MR> Tharius said it to Dark Blue Tory on Sun May 28 2006 03:15 am
MR> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> this definately includes me. As of right now I hand out free Lore and Melee
> keys legit because the software is not properly supported ... there is
> another software that is used for IBBS games that ends in ?RE, ?E and ?obal
> ?ars previously by ?olar ?ealms that I think falls into this category, but
> that's an opinion).
MR> yeah, speaking of JOHN DAILY... i've heard he likes to cash CHECKS
MR> right away, but takes FOREVER to actually take the 2 seconds to email
MR> that registration key.
MR> how many people have had this problem, too?
Personally speaking, I have registered a number of doors through him and
he's always been timely. In one case, I registered that evening, and had
the registration the next morning. The rest, I recieved the codes that
next evening. I seriously haven't had any problems.
As for registering these door games for $15 dollars. If you can't afford
it, why are you even in the scene?
For your thought process, I might add, that he's a one man shop, and in
the cases you are speaking about, he may have been out of town or busy in
some other capacity. Have you even bothered to ask?
I think you just enjoy spewing your bullshit to try to create as much
dissention as possible. Just my opinion.
Sniper
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Sniper
-=> Digital Man wrote to MRoblivious1bmf <=-
> i truly WISH i should put all my files up via the synchronet webserver, and
> have a html interface, but it's not good enough yet.
DM> Um... you mean the FTP server?
For someone who's run SynchroNet for "6 years", I guess he never noticed
that the web interface calls/uses the FTP server to display the file
listing, along with providing the link for downloading.
Such a blatent contradiction. :)
Sniper
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Frank Vest
> I wonder if Lord Time runs ISA in League 10? I have run it in IBBS mode
Where can I get this ISA??
Lord Time
In a reply from MRoblivious1bmf on 05:30 about Re: Door games.
M> > this definately includes me. As of right now I hand out free Lore and
M> > Melee keys legit because the software is not properly supported ... there
M> > is another software that is used for IBBS games that ends in ?RE, ?E and
M> > ?obal ?ars previously by ?olar ?ealms that I think falls into this
M> > category, but that's an opinion).
M>yeah, speaking of JOHN DAILY... i've heard he likes to cash CHECKS right
M>away, but takes FOREVER to actually take the 2 seconds to email that
M>registration key.
M>how many people have had this problem, too?
I won't say I had this problem, the last door reg. I got (a user reg. a fe)
he was on vaction, lets say it took about 2 week, and a few e-mail, trying
to find out what was going on, he reply when he got home and the reg. code went
out asp
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Lord Time
In a reply from Al on 23:42 about Re: Door games.
A>D> > ISA is quite a bit like BRE and it's free. It's not the same though
A>D> > but that's an option..
A>D> I have ISA on the BBS. It seems to be a pretty good game. Don't have
A>D> it setup IBBS yet though, just a local game..
A>I wonder if Lord Time runs ISA in League 10? I have run it in IBBS mode
A>before. It's not as easy to setup as BRE in IBBS mode. BRE leads the
A>pack when it comes to transfering IBBS files.
I just have to do the node list setup, just haven't got back to it (got
mad at it - didn't help that I had a IM chat going on the same time)
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Belly
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Finnigann to Dark Blue Tory on Mon May 29 2006 10:29 am
> DOS is still *NOT FREE*
http://esca.atomki.hu/paradise/dos/opendos-en.html
These are.
o
(O)
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Re: Re: Door games.
By: Finnigann to Dark Blue Tory on Mon May 29 2006 10:29 am
> -=> With interpidation and the MAGIC of QWK Mail Dark Blue Tory wrote to Deu
> <=-
>
> DBT> Re: Door games.
> DBT> By: Deuce to Dark Blue Tory on Sat May 27 2006 01:40 am
>
> DBT> Your answer was blunt and to the point. I understand they need to be
> DBT> registered because they're not free.
>
> DBT> My question was more to invoke a discussion than ignorance on my part.
> DBT> Simply rhetorical.
>
> DBT> But are you serious on the copy of Windows 3.0? Hehehe...that's
> DBT> hilarious..
>
>
> DOS is still *NOT FREE*
>
> Maybe if MORE people had paid for games, they authors might still be
> around, updating and writing NEW stuff...
>
>
>
>
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> ... Got my tie caught in the fax... Suddenly I was in L.A.
This is true, and I'd have to agree. A lot of people cheated and
cracked..but that's not what I heard about the DOORMUD guy..
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Door games.
By: Deuce to Dark Blue Tory on Sun May 28 2006 02:01 pm
> Re: Door games.
> By: Dark Blue Tory to Deuce on Sat May 27 2006 11:02 am
>
> > Your answer was blunt and to the point. I understand they need to be
> > registered because they're not free.
>
> But there has always been a problem with self-justifying people useing just
> such statements to make themselves feel better about piracy of all sorts. I
> general, they fall into three categories:
> 1) "It's not worth what they want" the idea being that it's worthless (which
> makes one wonder why they want it in the first place)
> 2) "It's not hurting anyone" the idea being that the people who created the
> thing have already been amply compensated by someone else, so additional
> compensation is just leeching the public.
> 3) "If the only way for me to get it was to pay, I'd do without it, so (#2)"
> I've never understood this one enough to reply to it. Closes I can get is a
> combination of #1 and #2.
>
> In the BBS world, there are very very few pieces of software which have ever
> in their entire lifespan (generally 10-20 years) earned enough money to have
> even paid minimum wage to those who wrote them for the time taken to write
> them. Someone expecting to make minimum wage for the time they spend workin
> on something isn't off-base to my mind (it's *silly* to expect that in the B
> world, but in theory, they have every right to try to pull it off).
>
> > My question was more to invoke a discussion than ignorance on my part.
> > Simply rhetorical.
>
> But all kinds of people are asking similar rhetorical questions about almost
> everything that you can get onto digital media.
>
> > But are you serious on the copy of Windows 3.0? Hehehe...that's
> > hilarious..
>
> Yep.
>
>
I hope you don't think I was suggesting piracy, nor am I an advocate of it.
I haven't been around for quite some time and thought it was a legitimate
question to be asked.
And now I believe I have my answer.
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Al
Lord Time wrote to Al:
LT> I just have to do the node list setup, just haven't got back to it (got
LT> mad at it - didn't help that I had a IM chat going on the same time)
I think it made me mad too last time, but in spite of that it might make
a good addition to the league.. :)
Ttyl :-),
Al
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Al
Deuce wrote to Al:
D> > IIRC (and I may not, it's been a while) it was stipulated that current
D> > registrations continue to work and the price wouldn't change, and
D> > that's the way it still is today.
D>
D> I have virtual certainty that JD has not yet collected enough $15
D> registrations to cover the cost of buying BRE.
That could very well be, and there is also the cost of running the
johndaileysoftware.com website.
The nice thing about opensource is that you just need to be concerned
about the code and not worry about the business side of things, although
if you have a busy opensource project (I imagine Synchronet falls into
this catagory) there is likely a cost for bandwidth that needs covering.
Ttyl :-),
Al
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Al
Frank Vest wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet:
FV> > I wonder if Lord Time runs ISA in League 10? I have run it in IBBS mode
FV>
FV> Where can I get this ISA??
Here..
http://trmb.ca/files/local/bbsdoors/isa0994a.zip
I know it is there because I put it there.. :)
Andy's web page is at www.taynik.com and you can find it there, but you'll
have to look around to find it (at least I did).
Ttyl :-),
Al
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Death
> I wonder if Lord Time runs ISA in League 10? I have run it in IBBS mode
> before. It's not as easy to setup as BRE in IBBS mode. BRE leads the
> pack when it comes to transfering IBBS files.
I agree with BRE being the best at that task. Although what actually
MOVES it is a mail tosser. As far as ISA goes, it seems to be a good
game, however I don't know of ANY leagues that carry it IBBS..
Death
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> I'm not familiar with DOORMUD anyway, what was it?
One of the worst, most worthless pieces of crap I have ever seen... It
and the author.. just my opinion though...
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Deuce
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Al to Deuce on Sun May 28 2006 07:33 pm
> D> I have virtual certainty that JD has not yet collected enough $15
> D> registrations to cover the cost of buying BRE.
>
> That could very well be, and there is also the cost of running the
> johndaileysoftware.com website.
>
> The nice thing about opensource is that you just need to be concerned
> about the code and not worry about the business side of things, although
> if you have a busy opensource project (I imagine Synchronet falls into
> this catagory) there is likely a cost for bandwidth that needs covering.
Bandwidth is minimal... the BIGGEST cost for open source is explaining to the
wife why it is you're spending an average of three hours a day "wasting your
time" doing "nothing usefull" except to "your geeky friends". Fights start
when you've broken Synchronet badly, you know it's broke badly, and it will
take a couple hours to fix, but the yard work isn't done and the dog needs to
go for a walk... and you're sitting on the computer killing youself for
nothing.
Other costs are not getting out as much, lacking a tan, etc.
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Lord Time
In a reply from Al on 01:45 about Re: Door games.
A>LT> I just have to do the node list setup, just haven't got back to it (got
A>LT> mad at it - didn't help that I had a IM chat going on the same time)
A>I think it made me mad too last time, but in spite of that it might make
A>a good addition to the league.. :)
yep, it would, I know of 2 bbs (in league 10) who want to get into it
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Lord Time
In a reply from Al on 19:39 about Re: Door games.
A>FV> > I wonder if Lord Time runs ISA in League 10? I have run it in IBBS mode
A>FV> Where can I get this ISA??
A>Here..
A>http://trmb.ca/files/local/bbsdoors/isa0994a.zip
A>I know it is there because I put it there.. :)
it now on his bbs, just that it beat the messages about it, didn't have
enought replys, to upload the rep file yet
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In a reply from Frank Vest on 20:38 about Re: Door games.
FV>@VIA: VERT
FV>@MSGID: <kTneg.41917$Lm5....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>
FV>@REPLY: <447939DF...@trmb.ca>
FV>From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
FV>> I wonder if Lord Time runs ISA in League 10? I have run it in IBBS mode
FV>Where can I get this ISA??
in a few mins it will be in your ftn outbound here, just as soon as I get done
reply here
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Digital Man
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Deuce to Al on Sun May 28 2006 11:24 pm
> Re: Re: Door games.
> By: Al to Deuce on Sun May 28 2006 07:33 pm
>
> > D> I have virtual certainty that JD has not yet collected enough $15
> > D> registrations to cover the cost of buying BRE.
> >
> > That could very well be, and there is also the cost of running the
> > johndaileysoftware.com website.
> >
> > The nice thing about opensource is that you just need to be concerned
> > about the code and not worry about the business side of things, although
> > if you have a busy opensource project (I imagine Synchronet falls into
> > this catagory) there is likely a cost for bandwidth that needs covering.
>
> Bandwidth is minimal... the BIGGEST cost for open source is explaining to th
> wife why it is you're spending an average of three hours a day "wasting your
> time" doing "nothing usefull" except to "your geeky friends". Fights start
> when you've broken Synchronet badly, you know it's broke badly, and it will
> take a couple hours to fix, but the yard work isn't done and the dog needs t
> go for a walk... and you're sitting on the computer killing youself for
> nothing.
>
> Other costs are not getting out as much, lacking a tan, etc.
/me resembles those remarks.
digital man
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You will burn 7% more calories walking on hard dirt than pavement.
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Frank Vest
>
> in a few mins it will be in your ftn outbound here, just as soon as I get done
> reply here
Got it. Thanks!
Frank
MRoblivious1bmf
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> For someone who's run SynchroNet for "6 years", I guess he never noticed
> that the web interface calls/uses the FTP server to display the file
> listing, along with providing the link for downloading.
> Such a blatent contradiction. :)
yes, shit for brains, i made a mistake, i knew that. a lot of times i'm
typing 80 wpm, and doing 3 things at once.
oh, i find it funny how someone who runs a *synchronet support network*
doesnt even know how to code baja or javascript, and he had his ENTIRE bbs
modded by OTHER people.
INFACT, that is MY logon matrix on YOUR bbs, with someone else's name on it.
MRoblivious1bmf
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> will let everyone know when I do. But I do know this about J.D., I
> emailed him with a question about registration over 3 months ago, and
> still no response.. Makes me wonder if he even cares or not..
yeah, he seems like a nice guy, i talked to him on msg nets back in
the heyday of bbsing..
but something is up with that guy, maybe real life issues?
MRoblivious1bmf
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> DOS is still *NOT FREE*
yeah, but you cant buy it anywhere. it's RETIRED. that means
they dont give a shit [do not care if you use it unlicensed], and they do not
support it.
> Maybe if MORE people had paid for games, they authors might still be
> around, updating and writing NEW stuff...
yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my ass! :D
oh, and i'm sure you believe that the costs of software/music are so high
because of people pirating [a stupid word for it] it?
MRoblivious1bmf
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> You could use 'subst' to create virtual drives to shorten those paths (witho
> moving any files or dirs).
yeah, i was thinking of that. that may be my only option.
> > synchronet wouldnt be able to handle the number of files i would have in
> > these hypothetical directories.
> More than 10,000 file *per* directory?!?
YUP! :D
i gots me some files!
> > i truly WISH i should put all my files up via the synchronet webserver, a
> > have a html interface, but it's not good enough yet.
> Um... you mean the FTP server?
yeah, i meant the ftp server, then opening up the 00index file with
your web browser
Death
> yep, it would, I know of 2 bbs (in league 10) who want to get into it
I would be as well.. Don't have league 10 setup yet, but will if you
get ISA ready.. =o)
Death
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Death
> yes, shit for brains, i made a mistake, i knew that. a lot of times i'm
> typing 80 wpm, and doing 3 things at once.
> oh, i find it funny how someone who runs a *synchronet support network*
> doesnt even know how to code baja or javascript, and he had his ENTIRE bbs
> modded by OTHER people.
> INFACT, that is MY logon matrix on YOUR bbs, with someone else's name on it.
Here we go... (covering my nose so I don't have to smell the
shitstorm..)
Death
> yeah, he seems like a nice guy, i talked to him on msg nets back in
> the heyday of bbsing..
> but something is up with that guy, maybe real life issues?
Possibly.. Real life is much more important than the BBS world is..
well to most of us anyhow.. Some people I really wonder about.. =o)
MRoblivious1bmf
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Death said it to Dark Blue Tory on Mon May 29 2006 05:36 am
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> One of the worst, most worthless pieces of crap I have ever seen... It
> and the author.. just my opinion though...
yeah, i had my own issues with evan, obviously, but i remember looking on
the doormud website in the forums.. some people are crazy about it.
one guy had made several mods for it and wanted evan to take a look at them.
and evan was like "nope, sorry, dont have the time" then mentioned something
about not making money off of doormud and not working on it anymore.
if someone enjoys something you made, and wants to show you some gratitude
[besides MONEY, which is the only kind evan would ever recognize], i say
that's something great.
even though i'm not really a fan of doorgames, i found doomud very attractive
and not a true mud.
after looking through the code so much, i'm almost positive evan adapted some
freeware mud code into doormud, but that's just my opinion.
MRoblivious1bmf
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Sniper said it to MRoblivious1bmf on Sun May 28 2006 08:31 pm
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> Personally speaking, I have registered a number of doors through him and
> he's always been timely. In one case, I registered that evening, and had
> the registration the next morning. The rest, I recieved the codes that
> next evening. I seriously haven't had any problems.
well, i said this, because RECENTLY i have known of several people who
HAD that problem i just stated.
> As for registering these door games for $15 dollars. If you can't afford
> it, why are you even in the scene?
who said anything about not affording it?
> For your thought process, I might add, that he's a one man shop, and in
> the cases you are speaking about, he may have been out of town or busy in
> some other capacity. Have you even bothered to ask?
oh, that's the ticket.. he must be out of town 24/7.
and NO, i have not bothered to ASK, but those people i mentioned have, and
have not gotten replies.
> I think you just enjoy spewing your bullshit to try to create as much
> dissention as possible. Just my opinion.
well, i think you have shit for brains, just my opinion.
i was being totally serious.
why dont you call up your buddy john dailey and tell him to get up off his
ass, then?
MRoblivious1bmf
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> > by OTHER people. INFACT, that is MY logon matrix on YOUR bbs, with
> > someone else's name on
> Here we go... (covering my nose so I don't have to smell the
> shitstorm..)
nobody hands someone their ass like the jasman.
MRoblivious1bmf
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Death said it to MRoblivious1bmf on Mon May 29 2006 12:33 pm
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> well to most of us anyhow.. Some people I really wonder about.. =o)
i find bbsing a comfortable diversion from real life, the way it was for me
when i first discovered it. :D
Death
> nobody hands someone their ass like the jasman.
Heh.. I do have to admit, you have had me laughing like hell
sometimes... And sometimes I wonder if you were drinking when you sent
certain messages (like when I first came back on the scene last oct.,
and you started giving me hell) =o)
Death
> i find bbsing a comfortable diversion from real life, the way it was for me
> when i first discovered it. :D
I agree with you. But some people let it take presidence <sp?> over
there real life.. or should I say used to.. Don't know if anyone is
THAT heavy into it anymore.
Death
> yeah, i had my own issues with evan, obviously, but i remember looking on
> the doormud website in the forums.. some people are crazy about it.
> one guy had made several mods for it and wanted evan to take a look at them.
> and evan was like "nope, sorry, dont have the time" then mentioned something
> about not making money off of doormud and not working on it anymore.
> if someone enjoys something you made, and wants to show you some gratitude
> [besides MONEY, which is the only kind evan would ever recognize], i say
> that's something great.
> even though i'm not really a fan of doorgames, i found doomud very attractiv
> after looking through the code so much, i'm almost positive evan adapted som
I know you had your issues with Evan. =o) I just never liked the game
too much. Of all the games I have on my BBS DOORMUD is the LEAST used.
And you are correct, if someone actually wants to go through the
trouble to make mods and addons for a program you worked on, you
should at least look at them and consider them.
Money, the root of all evil... I just don't like asses like Evan who
just don't want to work on software.. And I am SURE he made money off
of it, as it was popular, at one point in time anyway.
I have loved a few door games through the years, but muds of any type
are not included in that. Exitilus (2.05, the old one by Tao Ge, who
was probably even worse than Evan as far as support went) LORD,
several of the BRE type games. But I have always been an avid gamer,
and not just doors. I would have to say BRE is without a doubt my
favorite, although it is very time consuming to actually play it most
effectively. And if you aren't a good stratigist, then you might as
well never play it.
I like games that make you think, and that have some real competition.
I loved LORD alot until I finally realized that I was winning almost
every game. There are not enough REAL good LORD players left, at least
if there are they won't come forward to challange me. And I mean in a
IGM free game, or one with IGMS you can't cheat in. Ahh well,
sometimes it sucks being the best. ;o)
Lord Time
In a reply from Death on 11:40 about Re: Door games.
D> To: Lord Time
D>
D> > yep, it would, I know of 2 bbs (in league 10) who want to get into it
D>I would be as well..
ok
D> Don't have league 10 setup yet,
ok, if you need the league 10 info pack it's at
ftp://time.synchro.net/League10.zip
D> but will if you get ISA ready.. =o)
ok
Rob Starr
Lord Time SysOp of
Time Warp of the Future BBS
ICQ # 11868133 or # 70398519
Yahoo : lordtime2000 AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
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Lord Time
In a reply from Frank Vest on 08:08 about Re: Door games.
FV>> FV>Where can I get this ISA??
FV>> in a few mins it will be in your ftn outbound here, just as soon as I get
FV>> done reply here
FV>Got it. Thanks!
your welcome
Rob Starr
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Time Warp of the Future BBS
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MRoblivious1bmf
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> I agree with you. But some people let it take presidence <sp?> over
> there real life.. or should I say used to.. Don't know if anyone is
> THAT heavy into it anymore.
i must say , i am totally into the bbs scene, full force.
i am wearing a big black trench coat right now, gloves with knuckle holes cut
out, and i have a program that makes random beeps and other sounds when i
type on my keyboard.
i also have hackers running 24/7 on a small tv that i can view while bbsing.
hold on.. my mom's calling me.
juuuuust kidding!
Death
> i must say , i am totally into the bbs scene, full force.
> i am wearing a big black trench coat right now, gloves with knuckle holes cu
> type on my keyboard.
> i also have hackers running 24/7 on a small tv that i can view while bbsing.
> hold on.. my mom's calling me.
> juuuuust kidding!
Heh.. I bet you also have random robot spasms as well, right? =o)
Have you seen that movie? Can't think of the name of it right now, but
that is pretty damn funny..
Death
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Angus McLeod
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Belly to Finnigann on Sun May 28 2006 17:33:00
> > DOS is still *NOT FREE*
>
> http://www.freedos.org/
>
> http://esca.atomki.hu/paradise/dos/opendos-en.html
>
> These are.
Yes, but technically, they are not DOS.
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Door games.
By: Death to Dark Blue Tory on Sun May 28 2006 08:55 pm
>
> > I'm not familiar with DOORMUD anyway, what was it?
>
> One of the worst, most worthless pieces of crap I have ever seen... It
> and the author.. just my opinion though...
>
> Death
>
>
>
> Home of DarkNet
>
>
Hahah! Don't hold back now, tell me how you really feel!
What was it anyway?
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Ralph Smole
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Death to MRoblivious1bmf on Mon May 29 2006 09:32 am
>
> > yes, shit for brains, i made a mistake, i knew that. a lot of times i'm
> > typing 80 wpm, and doing 3 things at once.
> > oh, i find it funny how someone who runs a *synchronet support network*
> > doesnt even know how to code baja or javascript, and he had his ENTIRE bb
> > modded by OTHER people.
> > INFACT, that is MY logon matrix on YOUR bbs, with someone else's name on
>
> Here we go... (covering my nose so I don't have to smell the
> shitstorm..)
>
> Death
>
>
>
> Home of DarkNet
>
>
FIGHT!! FIGHT!! FIGHT!!
Ralph M. Smole
www.freewebs.com/ralphsmole
www.hillsofbriaroaks.bravehost.com
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MRoblivious1bmf
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> Heh.. I bet you also have random robot spasms as well, right? =o)
> Have you seen that movie? Can't think of the name of it right now, but
> that is pretty damn funny..
who's in the movie?
i do however [being an electronics guy] make repeated references to the
flux capacitor at work :D
it's what makes timetravel possible, you know.
MRoblivious1bmf
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Dark Blue Tory said it to Death on Tue May 30 2006 02:15 am
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> > One of the worst, most worthless pieces of crap I have ever seen... It
> > and the author.. just my opinion though...
> What was it anyway?
it's a doorgame that was made to act like a mud. sorta
www.doormud.com, i believe.
Belly
Re: Re: Door games.
By: MRoblivious1bmf to Death on Tue May 30 2006 04:54 am
> i do however [being an electronics guy] make repeated references to the
> flux capacitor at work :D
My brother does the same thing, except he's a DeLorean guy.
Pretty annoying.
o
(O)
BeLLy
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Belly
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Angus McLeod to Belly on Mon May 29 2006 01:29 pm
> Yes, but technically, they are not DOS.
not Disk Operating Systems?
Whatever you say, man.
o
(O)
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Pbmountaincat
MR>i also have hackers running 24/7 on a small tv that i can view while bbsing.
...Hack the planet.... cute movie.
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Tharius
> Heheh, well, it makes sense. It wasn't really that much of a complaint on
> my
> end, I was just questioning the need for it and are there really that many
> people requesting registrations.
I think you've heard from a lot of folk already that BBS programming is a
very quiet occupation compared to what it used to be like. Is there still
call? Well I guess it depends on your end objective. A living? I can't
imagine anyone making a living at it. I logged into a BBS to check
something out that I spotted on google and he wants $25 a month for access
... I can't imagine he's busy enough to pay for the phone line (he had dial
up still), but ... If you're trying to make a couple bucks for (I think the
example I used) paying off the development software, or something like that,
you might be ok.
*aside* Before someone else notes it, there are stripped down MS Studio
components available for free download, or such products as Virtual (?)
Pascal, etc. I think Borland offers a free Delphi, definately a free c
compiler.
> ž Synchronet ž Counter Espionage 3 - telnet://cethree.synchro.net -
> Ontario, Canada
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Death
> who's in the movie?
> i do however [being an electronics guy] make repeated references to the
> flux capacitor at work :D
> it's what makes timetravel possible, you know.
Geez.. I don't know who is in it.. I know that in the movie the old
woman from Golden Girls plays his mother, gets hooked on a video game
he is creating, and smokes all his weed.. If you have seen it you will
know what I am talking about.
Death
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Death
> Hahah! Don't hold back now, tell me how you really feel!
> What was it anyway?
Dude, it comes with Synchronet.. look in your games...
Death
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Deuce
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Belly to Angus McLeod on Tue May 30 2006 12:42 am
> > Yes, but technically, they are not DOS.
>
> not Disk Operating Systems?
>
> Whatever you say, man.
Now you're just being silly. DOS is a trademark that Microsoft actively
protected.
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Brett Frymire
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Dark Blue Tory to Al on Sat May 27 2006 11:00 am
>
> Thanks, I was just asking because it seemed kind of ridiculous. I understan
> the nostalgia and the reasoning behind the registering of BBS doors, but to
> need to do it in 2006 stumped me.
>
> Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
>
You can get W&W games and keys from me.
telnet to etow.com
Now, all the W&W doors were written on a very old library, and hence will not
run on Win 2k and later, unless you use netfoss.
-- brett
--------------------------------------------------
Telnet to etow.com. Site for W&W doors and keys.
"If everthng seems under control, you are just not going fast enough." (Mario
Andretti.)
http://www.etow.com/wwcomm
http://www.etow.com/wwkeys
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Radagast
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Deuce to Belly on Tue May 30 2006 10:39:00
> > > Yes, but technically, they are not DOS.
> >
> > not Disk Operating Systems?
> >
> > Whatever you say, man.
>
> Now you're just being silly. DOS is a trademark that Microsoft actively
> protected.
Actually... MS-DOS is. IBM had PC-DOS. I'm not sure DOS alone is.
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> > timetravel possible, you know.
> Geez.. I don't know who is in it.. I know that in the movie the old
> woman from Golden Girls plays his mother, gets hooked on a video game
> he is creating, and smokes all his weed.. If you have seen it you will
> know what I am talking about.
oh, please god, please let him be making this shit up!
:D
Ralph Smole
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Radagast to Deuce on Tue May 30 2006 05:11 pm
> Re: Re: Door games.
> By: Deuce to Belly on Tue May 30 2006 10:39:00
>
> > > > Yes, but technically, they are not DOS.
> > >
> > > not Disk Operating Systems?
> > >
> > > Whatever you say, man.
> >
> > Now you're just being silly. DOS is a trademark that Microsoft actively
> > protected.
>
> Actually... MS-DOS is. IBM had PC-DOS. I'm not sure DOS alone is.
>
True. DOS is not trademarked by MS.
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Door games.
By: Death to Dark Blue Tory on Tue May 30 2006 10:03 am
>
> > Hahah! Don't hold back now, tell me how you really feel!
> > What was it anyway?
>
> Dude, it comes with Synchronet.. look in your games...
>
> Death
>
>
>
> Home of DarkNet
>
>
Yes, I know, I saw it last night. Very blaaaaaaaaah and boring...personally,
I liked Big League Wrestling..;)
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Brett Frymire to Dark Blue Tory on Tue May 30 2006 11:55 am
> Re: Re: Door games.
> By: Dark Blue Tory to Al on Sat May 27 2006 11:00 am
>
> >
> > Thanks, I was just asking because it seemed kind of ridiculous. I unders
> > the nostalgia and the reasoning behind the registering of BBS doors, but
> > need to do it in 2006 stumped me.
> >
> > Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
> >
>
> You can get W&W games and keys from me.
>
> telnet to etow.com
>
> Now, all the W&W doors were written on a very old library, and hence will no
> run on Win 2k and later, unless you use netfoss.
>
> -- brett
> --------------------------------------------------
> Telnet to etow.com. Site for W&W doors and keys.
>
> "If everthng seems under control, you are just not going fast enough." (Mari
> Andretti.)
>
>
> http://www.etow.com/wwcomm
> http://www.etow.com/wwkeys
>
Thanks, I'll take a look. But I'm leery about Netfoss..had some bad
experiences..;)
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Dark Blue Tory
Re: Door games.
By: MRoblivious1bmf to Dark Blue Tory on Tue May 30 2006 04:54 am
> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet
Ahhhhhhhhh...
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Digital Man
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Brett Frymire to Dark Blue Tory on Tue May 30 2006 10:55 am
> Re: Re: Door games.
> By: Dark Blue Tory to Al on Sat May 27 2006 11:00 am
>
> >
> > Thanks, I was just asking because it seemed kind of ridiculous. I unders
> > the nostalgia and the reasoning behind the registering of BBS doors, but
> > need to do it in 2006 stumped me.
> >
> > Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
> >
>
> You can get W&W games and keys from me.
>
> telnet to etow.com
>
> Now, all the W&W doors were written on a very old library, and hence will no
> run on Win 2k and later, unless you use netfoss.
That should no longer be the case (the need for netfoss), if you use the latest
and greatest Synchronet VDD for NT (sbbsexec.zip).
digital man
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Digital Man
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Dark Blue Tory to Brett Frymire on Tue May 30 2006 08:14 pm
> Re: Re: Door games.
> By: Brett Frymire to Dark Blue Tory on Tue May 30 2006 11:55 am
>
> > Re: Re: Door games.
> > By: Dark Blue Tory to Al on Sat May 27 2006 11:00 am
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks, I was just asking because it seemed kind of ridiculous. I und
> > > the nostalgia and the reasoning behind the registering of BBS doors, b
> > > need to do it in 2006 stumped me.
> > >
> > > Where can we find this software that doesn't need to be registered?
> > >
> >
> > You can get W&W games and keys from me.
> >
> > telnet to etow.com
> >
> > Now, all the W&W doors were written on a very old library, and hence will
> > run on Win 2k and later, unless you use netfoss.
> >
> > -- brett
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > Telnet to etow.com. Site for W&W doors and keys.
> >
> > "If everthng seems under control, you are just not going fast enough." (M
> > Andretti.)
> >
> >
> > http://www.etow.com/wwcomm
> > http://www.etow.com/wwkeys
> >
>
> Thanks, I'll take a look. But I'm leery about Netfoss..had some bad
> experiences..;)
You shouldn't need netfoss any longer (with the lateste and greatest
sbbsexec.dll and dosxtrn.exe).
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Angus McLeod
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Belly to Angus McLeod on Tue May 30 2006 00:42:00
> > Yes, but technically, they are not DOS.
>
> not Disk Operating Systems?
>
> Whatever you say, man.
I didn't say not "*a* DOS". I said they are not "DOS". If you would like
the distinction explained to you, market a Disk Operating System and call
it "DOS".
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Ralph Smole
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Angus McLeod to Belly on Wed May 31 2006 01:25 pm
> Re: Re: Door games.
> By: Belly to Angus McLeod on Tue May 30 2006 00:42:00
>
> > > Yes, but technically, they are not DOS.
> >
> > not Disk Operating Systems?
> >
> > Whatever you say, man.
>
> I didn't say not "*a* DOS". I said they are not "DOS". If you would like
> the distinction explained to you, market a Disk Operating System and call
> it "DOS".
>
>
DOS is not trademarked..MSDOS is.
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Deuce
Re: Re: Door games.
By: Radagast to Deuce on Tue May 30 2006 04:11 pm
> > > > Yes, but technically, they are not DOS.
> > >
> > > not Disk Operating Systems?
> > >
> > > Whatever you say, man.
> >
> > Now you're just being silly. DOS is a trademark that Microsoft actively
> > protected.
>
> Actually... MS-DOS is. IBM had PC-DOS. I'm not sure DOS alone is.
I seem to recall MS suing DEC over it once.
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Tracker1
Death wrote:
>> I'm not familiar with DOORMUD anyway, what was it?
>
> and the author.. just my opinion though...
Dunno, the guy wanted to create something new, did that, didn't get much
support of it, and don't know from there... at least he's a door author
that created something new in the past 5 years.. can't say that of many
people...
Beyond that, I can only imagine how disenfranchising it must be to try
to create a door, and get something that resembles compensation for it in
this day and age....
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Deuce wrote:
> Bandwidth is minimal... the BIGGEST cost for open source is explaining to the
> wife why it is you're spending an average of three hours a day "wasting your
> time" doing "nothing usefull" except to "your geeky friends". Fights start
> when you've broken Synchronet badly, you know it's broke badly, and it will
> take a couple hours to fix, but the yard work isn't done and the dog needs to
> go for a walk... and you're sitting on the computer killing youself for
> nothing.
I can see that, don't know how you guys manage... bit of advice, if you can
get the wife hooked on Everquest, then there's less chance of her bugging
you for spending too much time on the computer.. ;)
> Other costs are not getting out as much, lacking a tan, etc.
Though, as you are up in Canada, the tan thing is probably of less
importance.. ;)
Death
> oh, please god, please let him be making this shit up!
Nope, not making it up... I don't know what I can't think of the name
of it, but it's pretty damn funny. The name of it is Grandma's Boy, my
wife just asked my brother.. It is a movie directed by Adam Sandler.
It is funny as hell, if you haven't seen it, for a funny movie it is
great.
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