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Tim Whitson
Feb 20, 2022, 1:18:17 AM2/20/22
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I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the door games.
I have noticed it is not running under the timed events. If I execute it
manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine. If I tell it to run
under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It returns with a 255 code. Any
ideas?
Tim
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I have noticed it is not running under the timed events. If I execute it
manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine. If I tell it to run
under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It returns with a 255 code. Any
ideas?
Tim
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Digital Man
Feb 20, 2022, 2:47:07 PM2/20/22
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To: Tim Whitson
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
By: Tim Whitson to All on Sat Feb 19 2022 09:31 pm
> I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the door
> games. I have noticed it is not running under the timed events. If I
> execute it manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine. If I tell
> it to run under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It returns with a 255
> code. Any ideas?
Past your configuration for it (from SCFG) here and we'll have a look-see.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
By: Tim Whitson to All on Sat Feb 19 2022 09:31 pm
> I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the door
> games. I have noticed it is not running under the timed events. If I
> execute it manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine. If I tell
> it to run under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It returns with a 255
> code. Any ideas?
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digital man (rob)
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Tim Whitson
Feb 20, 2022, 4:40:40 PM2/20/22
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To: Digital Man
> Past your configuration for it (from SCFG) here and we'll have a look-see.
Internal Code NIGHTLY
Start-up Directory c:\sbbs\xtrn
Command Line night.bat
Enabled Yes
Execution Node Any
Execution Months Any
Execution Days of Month Any
Execution Days of Week All
Execution Time 00:00
Requires Exclusive Execution No
Force Users Off-line for Event No
Native Executable/Script No
Use Shell or New Context Yes
Background Execution No
Always run After Init/Re-init No
Error Log Level Informational
The batch file does work. I just need it to run sometime early after midnight.
Thank you,
Tim
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
By: Digital Man to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 11:47 am
> Past your configuration for it (from SCFG) here and we'll have a look-see.
Start-up Directory c:\sbbs\xtrn
Command Line night.bat
Enabled Yes
Execution Node Any
Execution Months Any
Execution Days of Month Any
Execution Days of Week All
Execution Time 00:00
Requires Exclusive Execution No
Force Users Off-line for Event No
Native Executable/Script No
Use Shell or New Context Yes
Background Execution No
Always run After Init/Re-init No
Error Log Level Informational
The batch file does work. I just need it to run sometime early after midnight.
Thank you,
Tim
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Digital Man
Feb 20, 2022, 6:09:26 PM2/20/22
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To: Tim Whitson
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
> By: Digital Man to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 11:47 am
>
> > Past your configuration for it (from SCFG) here and we'll have a
> > look-see.
>
> Internal Code NIGHTLY
> Start-up Directory c:\sbbs\xtrn
> Command Line night.bat
> Enabled Yes
> Execution Node Any
> Execution Months Any
> Execution Days of Month Any
> Execution Days of Week All
> Execution Time 00:00
> Requires Exclusive Execution No
> Force Users Off-line for Event No
> Native Executable/Script No
Try setting this ^^^ To "Yes"
> Use Shell or New Context Yes
> Background Execution No
> Always run After Init/Re-init No
> Error Log Level Informational
>
> The batch file does work. I just need it to run sometime early after
> midnight.
And the batch file is in fact in your "xtrn" directory?
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
By: Tim Whitson to Digital Man on Sun Feb 20 2022 01:39 pm
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
> By: Digital Man to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 11:47 am
>
> > Past your configuration for it (from SCFG) here and we'll have a
> > look-see.
>
> Internal Code NIGHTLY
> Start-up Directory c:\sbbs\xtrn
> Command Line night.bat
> Enabled Yes
> Execution Node Any
> Execution Months Any
> Execution Days of Month Any
> Execution Days of Week All
> Execution Time 00:00
> Requires Exclusive Execution No
> Force Users Off-line for Event No
> Native Executable/Script No
> Use Shell or New Context Yes
> Background Execution No
> Always run After Init/Re-init No
> Error Log Level Informational
>
> The batch file does work. I just need it to run sometime early after
> midnight.
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digital man (rob)
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Tim Whitson
Feb 20, 2022, 8:19:22 PM2/20/22
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To: Digital Man
> > Native Executable/Script No
> Try setting this ^^^ To "Yes"
>
That worked, I am sure I tried it once in desperation. I looked back on my old
versions, I keep regular backups, and the only thing I noted was I assigned a
execution Node (1) in the early versions. I did that along with changing the
above setting to "yes". The batch file runs now when forced. I'll see what it
does at midnight.
Thank you again!
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
By: Digital Man to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 03:09 pm
> > Native Executable/Script No
> Try setting this ^^^ To "Yes"
>
versions, I keep regular backups, and the only thing I noted was I assigned a
execution Node (1) in the early versions. I did that along with changing the
above setting to "yes". The batch file runs now when forced. I'll see what it
does at midnight.
Thank you again!
Digital Man
Feb 20, 2022, 8:47:42 PM2/20/22
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To: Tim Whitson
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
> By: Digital Man to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 03:09 pm
>
> > > Native Executable/Script No
> > Try setting this ^^^ To "Yes"
>
>
> That worked, I am sure I tried it once in desperation. I looked back on my
> old versions, I keep regular backups, and the only thing I noted was I
> assigned a execution Node (1) in the early versions. I did that along with
> changing the above setting to "yes". The batch file runs now when forced.
> I'll see what it does at midnight.
>
> Thank you again!
No problem.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
By: Tim Whitson to Digital Man on Sun Feb 20 2022 05:16 pm
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Event
> By: Digital Man to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 03:09 pm
>
> > > Native Executable/Script No
> > Try setting this ^^^ To "Yes"
>
>
> That worked, I am sure I tried it once in desperation. I looked back on my
> old versions, I keep regular backups, and the only thing I noted was I
> assigned a execution Node (1) in the early versions. I did that along with
> changing the above setting to "yes". The batch file runs now when forced.
> I'll see what it does at midnight.
>
> Thank you again!
--
digital man (rob)
Synchronet "Real Fact" #29:
Rob Swindell first called BBSes (at 300bps) with an Apple II computer in 1982
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Daryl Stout
Feb 21, 2022, 1:14:12 AM2/21/22
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To: Tim Whitson
Tim,
TW> I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the
TW> door games. I have noticed it is not running under the timed events.
TW> If I execute it manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine.
TW> If I tell it to run under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It
TW> returns with a 255 code. Any ideas?
I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
maintenance to run.
Daryl
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Tim,
TW> I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the
TW> door games. I have noticed it is not running under the timed events.
TW> If I execute it manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine.
TW> If I tell it to run under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It
TW> returns with a 255 code. Any ideas?
I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
maintenance to run.
Daryl
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MRO
Feb 21, 2022, 3:15:53 AM2/21/22
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To: Daryl Stout
> Tim,
>
> TW> I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the
> TW> door games. I have noticed it is not running under the timed events.
> TW> If I execute it manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine.
> TW> If I tell it to run under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It
> TW> returns with a 255 code. Any ideas?
>
> I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> maintenance to run.
>
> Daryl
why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
> Tim,
>
> TW> I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the
> TW> door games. I have noticed it is not running under the timed events.
> TW> If I execute it manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine.
> TW> If I tell it to run under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It
> TW> returns with a 255 code. Any ideas?
>
> I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> maintenance to run.
>
> Daryl
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Tim Whitson
Feb 21, 2022, 10:47:37 AM2/21/22
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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
> I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> maintenance to run.
I think the Node1 was the key. Thanks for the help.
> users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> maintenance to run.
Ragnarok
Feb 21, 2022, 12:28:45 PM2/21/22
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To: MRO
El 21/2/22 a las 04:57, MRO escribió:
to run, then restart it.
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> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
>
> > Tim,
> >
> > TW> I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the
> > TW> door games. I have noticed it is not running under the timed events.
> > TW> If I execute it manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine.
> > TW> If I tell it to run under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It
> > TW> returns with a 255 code. Any ideas?
> >
> > I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> > users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> > take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> > maintenance to run.
> >
> > Daryl
>
> why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
> ---
Its remember me to the major bbs "cleanup" event, its take down thebbs
> By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
>
> > Tim,
> >
> > TW> I have a NIGHT.BAT file that runs all the maintenance files for the
> > TW> door games. I have noticed it is not running under the timed events.
> > TW> If I execute it manually but double clicking on it, it runs just fine.
> > TW> If I tell it to run under a Forced Time Event, it does not run. It
> > TW> returns with a 255 code. Any ideas?
> >
> > I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> > users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> > take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> > maintenance to run.
> >
> > Daryl
>
> why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
> ---
to run, then restart it.
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Digital Man
Feb 21, 2022, 7:08:56 PM2/21/22
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To: Tim Whitson
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
>
> > I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> > users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> > take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> > maintenance to run.
>
> I think the Node1 was the key. Thanks for the help.
I think "Native" was the key. A "Node" value of "Any" works fine.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 21 2022 07:41 am
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
>
> > I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> > users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> > take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> > maintenance to run.
>
> I think the Node1 was the key. Thanks for the help.
--
digital man (rob)
Rush quote #20:
Learning that we're only immortal, for a limited time
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MRO
Feb 21, 2022, 7:44:08 PM2/21/22
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To: Tim Whitson
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 21 2022 07:41 am
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
>
> > I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> > users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> > take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> > maintenance to run.
>
> I think the Node1 was the key. Thanks for the help.
>
> Tim
no, you two guys just set it up wrong.
> By: Daryl Stout to Tim Whitson on Sun Feb 20 2022 08:14 pm
>
> > I had a similar issue. If you run it as an exclusive event to force
> > users offline, for the nodes, instead of ANY, set it to 1. It will
> > take node 1 down, and "busy out" the other nodes" for the nightly
> > maintenance to run.
>
> I think the Node1 was the key. Thanks for the help.
>
> Tim
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MRO
Feb 21, 2022, 7:44:08 PM2/21/22
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To: Ragnarok
Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Ragnarok to MRO on Mon Feb 21 2022 01:54 pm
> > why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
> > ---
> Its remember me to the major bbs "cleanup" event, its take down thebbs
> to run, then restart it.
clean up what? there's nothing to clean up
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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Ragnarok to MRO on Mon Feb 21 2022 01:54 pm
> > why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
> > ---
> Its remember me to the major bbs "cleanup" event, its take down thebbs
> to run, then restart it.
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Nightfox
Feb 21, 2022, 10:20:52 PM2/21/22
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To: MRO
MR> why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
I don't think you'd want a user to happen to run a door game while that door's maintenance program is running, for instance. Things like that might cause some issues.
Nightfox
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 21 2022 01:57 am
MR> why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
I don't think you'd want a user to happen to run a door game while that door's maintenance program is running, for instance. Things like that might cause some issues.
Nightfox
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MRO
Feb 22, 2022, 2:14:05 AM2/22/22
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To: Nightfox
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 21 2022 01:57 am
>
> MR> why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
>
> I don't think you'd want a user to happen to run a door game while that
> door's maintenance program is running, for instance. Things like that might
> cause some issues.
when would that happen.
we dont have users anymore.
and most doors will run the maint and then let the user in.
also you can easily create a flag file, have it check, run the maint and let
the user in.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:59 pm
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 21 2022 01:57 am
>
> MR> why would you ever want to take a user offline to run stupid maint?
>
> I don't think you'd want a user to happen to run a door game while that
> door's maintenance program is running, for instance. Things like that might
> cause some issues.
we dont have users anymore.
and most doors will run the maint and then let the user in.
also you can easily create a flag file, have it check, run the maint and let
the user in.
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Tim Whitson
Feb 22, 2022, 1:19:07 PM2/22/22
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To: MRO
> no, you two guys just set it up wrong.
I'll bite, what is the correct set up?
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:18 pm
> no, you two guys just set it up wrong.
MRO
Feb 22, 2022, 4:16:26 PM2/22/22
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To: Tim Whitson
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:18 pm
>
> > no, you two guys just set it up wrong.
>
> I'll bite, what is the correct set up?
aren't you reading the message thread?
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Tue Feb 22 2022 07:19 am
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:18 pm
>
> > no, you two guys just set it up wrong.
>
> I'll bite, what is the correct set up?
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Tim Whitson
Feb 22, 2022, 5:05:08 PM2/22/22
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To: MRO
> aren't you reading the message thread?
I don't agree with some points and no real workable solutions came from the
thread, (after Rob's suggestion). I do have people that log on and play games.
Some games do not run a maintenance file when the first player of the day logs
on. I would think it's best that no one was playing the game when nightly
maintenance is ran. I have several dozen games that require maintenance, so I
run the nightly maintenance batch file after midnight. I've been using the same
basic format since my RemoteAccess BBS in the 90's. It works (now) but after
your comments I figured you'd have an enlightened way to do it.
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Tue Feb 22 2022 03:00 pm
> aren't you reading the message thread?
thread, (after Rob's suggestion). I do have people that log on and play games.
Some games do not run a maintenance file when the first player of the day logs
on. I would think it's best that no one was playing the game when nightly
maintenance is ran. I have several dozen games that require maintenance, so I
run the nightly maintenance batch file after midnight. I've been using the same
basic format since my RemoteAccess BBS in the 90's. It works (now) but after
your comments I figured you'd have an enlightened way to do it.
Nightfox
Feb 22, 2022, 5:50:57 PM2/22/22
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To: Tim Whitson
TW> the thread, (after Rob's suggestion). I do have people that log on and
TW> play games. Some games do not run a maintenance file when the first player
TW> of the day logs on. I would think it's best that no one was playing the
TW> game when nightly maintenance is ran. I have several dozen games that
TW> require maintenance, so I run the nightly maintenance batch file after
TW> midnight. I've been using the same basic format since my RemoteAccess BBS
TW> in the 90's.
I've been doing the same thing. I think actually few doors run their maintenance when the first player of the day runs the door. Most door games I've had experience with have a daily maintenance program that needs to be run once a day, which I have as part of a batch file that I have my BBS run around midnight.
I also ran RemoteAccess in the 90s, and I had it exit with an errorlevel to run maintenance every night at midnight.
Nightfox
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Tue Feb 22 2022 02:03 pm
TW> the thread, (after Rob's suggestion). I do have people that log on and
TW> play games. Some games do not run a maintenance file when the first player
TW> of the day logs on. I would think it's best that no one was playing the
TW> game when nightly maintenance is ran. I have several dozen games that
TW> require maintenance, so I run the nightly maintenance batch file after
TW> midnight. I've been using the same basic format since my RemoteAccess BBS
TW> in the 90's.
I've been doing the same thing. I think actually few doors run their maintenance when the first player of the day runs the door. Most door games I've had experience with have a daily maintenance program that needs to be run once a day, which I have as part of a batch file that I have my BBS run around midnight.
I also ran RemoteAccess in the 90s, and I had it exit with an errorlevel to run maintenance every night at midnight.
Nightfox
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MRO
Feb 22, 2022, 6:14:06 PM2/22/22
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To: Tim Whitson
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Tue Feb 22 2022 03:00 pm
>
> > aren't you reading the message thread?
>
> I don't agree with some points and no real workable solutions came from the
> thread, (after Rob's suggestion). I do have people that log on and play
> games. Some games do not run a maintenance file when the first player of the
> day logs on. I would think it's best that no one was playing the game when
> nightly maintenance is ran. I have several dozen games that require
> maintenance, so I run the nightly maintenance batch file after midnight.
> I've been using the same basic format since my RemoteAccess BBS in the 90's.
> It works (now) but after your comments I figured you'd have an enlightened
> way to do it.
rob told you both how to run the maint in scfg. if you follow those instructions, it will launch correctly.
that is your real workable solution.
regarding you thought i'd have an elightened way to do it, i mentioned that you can create a file flag for it and run the maint if needed.
you can have the date in the flag file filename, have it search for it and if it doesn't exist, run the maint and then enter the doorgame.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Tue Feb 22 2022 02:03 pm
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Tue Feb 22 2022 03:00 pm
>
> > aren't you reading the message thread?
>
> I don't agree with some points and no real workable solutions came from the
> thread, (after Rob's suggestion). I do have people that log on and play
> games. Some games do not run a maintenance file when the first player of the
> day logs on. I would think it's best that no one was playing the game when
> nightly maintenance is ran. I have several dozen games that require
> maintenance, so I run the nightly maintenance batch file after midnight.
> I've been using the same basic format since my RemoteAccess BBS in the 90's.
> It works (now) but after your comments I figured you'd have an enlightened
> way to do it.
that is your real workable solution.
regarding you thought i'd have an elightened way to do it, i mentioned that you can create a file flag for it and run the maint if needed.
you can have the date in the flag file filename, have it search for it and if it doesn't exist, run the maint and then enter the doorgame.
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Tim Whitson
Feb 23, 2022, 12:43:19 AM2/23/22
to
To: MRO
> rob told you both how to run the maint in scfg. if you follow those
> instructions, it will launch correctly.
I do run it from scfg. If you'd read the thread you'd see that. It use to run
just fine but then it stopped. I could not figure out why. After trying a lot
of settings I put the word out. Isn't that what this is supposed to be, a
community that helps each other after all? Rob helped and now it works as it
use to under a timed event at midnight.
Thanks for all your input.
Tim
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Tue Feb 22 2022 04:50 pm
> rob told you both how to run the maint in scfg. if you follow those
> instructions, it will launch correctly.
just fine but then it stopped. I could not figure out why. After trying a lot
of settings I put the word out. Isn't that what this is supposed to be, a
community that helps each other after all? Rob helped and now it works as it
use to under a timed event at midnight.
Thanks for all your input.
Tim
MRO
Feb 23, 2022, 12:44:41 AM2/23/22
to
To: Nightfox
> I've been doing the same thing. I think actually few doors run their
> maintenance when the first player of the day runs the door. Most door games
> I've had experience with have a daily maintenance program that needs to be
> run once a day, which I have as part of a batch file that I have my BBS run
> around midnight.
>
> I also ran RemoteAccess in the 90s, and I had it exit with an errorlevel to
> run maintenance every night at midnight.
>
the good ones run maint if it hasn't been ran.
like i said, you can just do a batchfile to check a flag and run the maint.
regarding daryl and this guy, they just setup their event wrong and don't understand that after DM told them.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Nightfox to Tim Whitson on Tue Feb 22 2022 02:46 pm
> I've been doing the same thing. I think actually few doors run their
> maintenance when the first player of the day runs the door. Most door games
> I've had experience with have a daily maintenance program that needs to be
> run once a day, which I have as part of a batch file that I have my BBS run
> around midnight.
>
> I also ran RemoteAccess in the 90s, and I had it exit with an errorlevel to
> run maintenance every night at midnight.
>
like i said, you can just do a batchfile to check a flag and run the maint.
regarding daryl and this guy, they just setup their event wrong and don't understand that after DM told them.
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Daryl Stout
Feb 23, 2022, 1:13:18 AM2/23/22
to
To: Tim Whitson
Tim,
TW> I think the Node1 was the key. Thanks for the help.
I had the same problem...glad it was a simple fix.
Daryl
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Tim,
TW> I think the Node1 was the key. Thanks for the help.
I had the same problem...glad it was a simple fix.
Daryl
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MRO
Feb 23, 2022, 1:14:38 AM2/23/22
to
To: Tim Whitson
>
> > rob told you both how to run the maint in scfg. if you follow those
> > instructions, it will launch correctly.
>
> I do run it from scfg.
JFC
>If you'd read the thread you'd see that. It use to
> I do run it from scfg. If you'd read the thread you'd see that. It use to
> run just fine but then it stopped. I could not figure out why. After
> trying a lot of settings I put the word out. Isn't that what this is
> supposed to be, a community that helps each other after all? Rob helped and
> now it works as it use to under a timed event at midnight.
like i said you set it up wrong and that's why it didn't work.
you dont seem to understand that with your replies to me
you also asked how to do it another way and i told you how.
> Thanks for all your input.
i dont think you understand anything.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Tue Feb 22 2022 09:38 pm
>
> > rob told you both how to run the maint in scfg. if you follow those
> > instructions, it will launch correctly.
>
> I do run it from scfg.
>If you'd read the thread you'd see that. It use to
> I do run it from scfg. If you'd read the thread you'd see that. It use to
> run just fine but then it stopped. I could not figure out why. After
> trying a lot of settings I put the word out. Isn't that what this is
> supposed to be, a community that helps each other after all? Rob helped and
> now it works as it use to under a timed event at midnight.
you dont seem to understand that with your replies to me
you also asked how to do it another way and i told you how.
> Thanks for all your input.
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Digital Man
Feb 23, 2022, 1:18:05 AM2/23/22
to
To: MRO
> > Thanks for all your input.
>
> i dont think you understand anything.
I think he now understands that you're an asshole. <shrug>
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Tue Feb 22 2022 11:53 pm
> > Thanks for all your input.
>
> i dont think you understand anything.
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MRO
Feb 23, 2022, 4:44:14 AM2/23/22
to
To: Digital Man
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Tue Feb 22 2022 11:53 pm
>
> > > Thanks for all your input.
>
> > i dont think you understand anything.
>
> I think he now understands that you're an asshole. <shrug>
> --
> digital man (rob)
well maybe his reading comprehension has improved due to me being an asshole.
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Feb 22 2022 10:18 pm
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Tue Feb 22 2022 11:53 pm
>
> > > Thanks for all your input.
>
> > i dont think you understand anything.
>
> I think he now understands that you're an asshole. <shrug>
> --
> digital man (rob)
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Andre
Feb 23, 2022, 8:33:04 AM2/23/22
to
To: MRO
MR> well maybe his reading comprehension has improved due to me being an
MR> asshole. ---
The guy has a working solution. Whether or not it is elegant doesn't seem to concern him, probably because this is a hobby for people, at best.
So really you're just screaming into a void.
- Andre
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Feb 23 2022 03:20 am
MR> well maybe his reading comprehension has improved due to me being an
MR> asshole. ---
The guy has a working solution. Whether or not it is elegant doesn't seem to concern him, probably because this is a hobby for people, at best.
So really you're just screaming into a void.
- Andre
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Tim Whitson
Feb 24, 2022, 1:52:15 AM2/24/22
to
To: MRO
you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's first
suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an external
maintenance program that needs to be ran everyday. Having some check system as
you suggested would be extremely burdensome. Pausing calls and running the
maintenance program is the best option, just like the old days. Asshole
comments never really help anyone. I have extra TP if you need it.
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Feb 23 2022 03:20 am
> well maybe his reading comprehension has improved due to me being an asshole
I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't think
you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's first
suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an external
maintenance program that needs to be ran everyday. Having some check system as
you suggested would be extremely burdensome. Pausing calls and running the
maintenance program is the best option, just like the old days. Asshole
comments never really help anyone. I have extra TP if you need it.
MRO
Feb 24, 2022, 7:44:17 AM2/24/22
to
To: Tim Whitson
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Feb 23 2022 03:20 am
>
> > well maybe his reading comprehension has improved due to me being an
> > asshole
>
> I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't
> think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's
> first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an
you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix it even though digitalman told you.
you still claimed it was because of node 1.
and now i will waste my time by showing you what you wrote.
https://i.imgur.com/SIS0C8e.png
https://i.imgur.com/sDP2xdX.png
here is the blind leading the blind
https://i.imgur.com/LAPKWu3.png
here is rob telling you native was the key and node doesn't matter
https://i.imgur.com/ACXtyFq.png
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Wed Feb 23 2022 10:06 pm
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Feb 23 2022 03:20 am
>
> > well maybe his reading comprehension has improved due to me being an
> > asshole
>
> I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't
> think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's
> first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an
you still claimed it was because of node 1.
and now i will waste my time by showing you what you wrote.
https://i.imgur.com/SIS0C8e.png
https://i.imgur.com/sDP2xdX.png
here is the blind leading the blind
https://i.imgur.com/LAPKWu3.png
here is rob telling you native was the key and node doesn't matter
https://i.imgur.com/ACXtyFq.png
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Tristan Greaves
Feb 24, 2022, 8:39:09 AM2/24/22
to
To: MRO
>> I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't
>> think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's
>> first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an
MR> you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix it even though digitalman told you.
You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent contributions are non-helpful.
I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to others here.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Tim Whitson on Thu Feb 24 2022 06:25 am
>> I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't
>> think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's
>> first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an
You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent contributions are non-helpful.
I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to others here.
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MRO
Feb 24, 2022, 9:14:13 AM2/24/22
to
To: Tristan Greaves
> You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent
> contributions are non-helpful.
i actually provided helpful information that he asked for.
he ignored it.
He even said the developer was not helpful and was still looking for a solution.
then he did what the developer said [or maybe he didn't even do that] and thought that running it on node one worked.
and then he asked me if there was another way and i told him about using a flag file method to launch maint.
you apparently can't read either.
> I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's
> important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to
> others here.
i couldn't care less about your feelings.
i don't suffer fools.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tristan Greaves to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 01:37 pm
> You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent
> contributions are non-helpful.
he ignored it.
He even said the developer was not helpful and was still looking for a solution.
then he did what the developer said [or maybe he didn't even do that] and thought that running it on node one worked.
and then he asked me if there was another way and i told him about using a flag file method to launch maint.
you apparently can't read either.
> I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's
> important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to
> others here.
i don't suffer fools.
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Andre
Feb 24, 2022, 10:33:58 AM2/24/22
to
To: Tristan Greaves
TG> I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's
TG> important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to
TG> others here.
I don't really know MRO, but when people (to some extent including myself) talk about him when he's not present, the general consensus is that:
- he's a dick
- he's knows he's a dick
- there's no point engaging with him because you'll never change him
<shrug>
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tristan Greaves to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 01:37 pm
TG> I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's
TG> important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to
TG> others here.
I don't really know MRO, but when people (to some extent including myself) talk about him when he's not present, the general consensus is that:
- he's a dick
- he's knows he's a dick
- there's no point engaging with him because you'll never change him
<shrug>
DesotoFireflite
Feb 24, 2022, 12:15:52 PM2/24/22
to
To: Andre
An> I don't really know MRO, but when people (to some extent including myself)
An> talk about him when he's not present, the general consensus is that:
An> - he's a dick
An> - he's knows he's a dick
An> - there's no point engaging with him because you'll never change him
Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years, as I am more knowledgable about this software, I do thank him for all of his help, as a lot of the baja code I use, he taught me to explore and enhance, and never settle. Yes, he has made me stop and think at times with his comments, I still value his thoughts, however harsh they are at times. The key is to know when to reply or ignore...
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Andre to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:04 am
An> I don't really know MRO, but when people (to some extent including myself)
An> talk about him when he's not present, the general consensus is that:
An> - he's a dick
An> - he's knows he's a dick
An> - there's no point engaging with him because you'll never change him
Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years, as I am more knowledgable about this software, I do thank him for all of his help, as a lot of the baja code I use, he taught me to explore and enhance, and never settle. Yes, he has made me stop and think at times with his comments, I still value his thoughts, however harsh they are at times. The key is to know when to reply or ignore...
SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com
Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
Valhalla III! - (RemoteAccess) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:5023
Valhalla IIII! - (Dungeons & Dragons BBS) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:26
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Gamgee
Feb 24, 2022, 12:21:24 PM2/24/22
to
To: Tristan Greaves
-=> Tristan Greaves wrote to MRO <=-
>> I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't
>> think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's
>> first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an
MR> you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix it
eve
TG> n though digitalman told you.
TG> You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your
TG> recent contributions are non-helpful.
I hate to say it, and trust me, I'm no "MRO fan".... but in this case,
he's right. Read the whole thread carefully and you can see that.
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-=> Tristan Greaves wrote to MRO <=-
>> I was done with the thread, I thought Rob summed it up greatly. I don't
>> think you understand the thread and the fact my issue was fixed after Rob's
>> first suggestion. I have around 30 or so games that have to have an
MR> you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix it
eve
TG> You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your
TG> recent contributions are non-helpful.
I hate to say it, and trust me, I'm no "MRO fan".... but in this case,
he's right. Read the whole thread carefully and you can see that.
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Nightfox
Feb 24, 2022, 12:28:53 PM2/24/22
to
To: Tristan Greaves
MR>> you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix
MR>> it even though digitalman told you.
TG> You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent
TG> contributions are non-helpful.
TG> I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's
TG> important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to
TG> others here.
MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tristan Greaves to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 01:37 pm
MR>> you and daryl couldn't catch on to what the issue was and how to fix
TG> You are coming across as really toxic on this thread and your recent
TG> contributions are non-helpful.
TG> I realise my post is not contributing to the knowledge either, but it's
TG> important for you to hear from a third party how you are coming across to
TG> others here.
MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/
Andre
Feb 24, 2022, 2:33:56 PM2/24/22
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To: DesotoFireflite
De> Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over
De> the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years,
There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no assholes" rule for hiring. All the help in the world isn't very useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in general.
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: DesotoFireflite to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 11:29 am
De> Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over
De> the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years,
There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no assholes" rule for hiring. All the help in the world isn't very useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in general.
Gamgee
Feb 24, 2022, 8:21:57 PM2/24/22
to
To: Andre
-=> Andre wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-
An> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
An> By: DesotoFireflite to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 11:29 am
De> Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over
De> the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years,
An> There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no
An> assholes" rule for hiring.
Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20 minute
interview where the person would naturally be on their best behavior in order
to
get the job? I think that's a stretch.
An> All the help in the world isn't very
An> useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message
An> boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in
An> general.
While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and
doesn't really apply to the case at hand. While I would agree that MRO is
generally an asshole, he was actually right in this thread.
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-=> Andre wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-
An> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
An> By: DesotoFireflite to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 11:29 am
De> Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me over
De> the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few years,
An> assholes" rule for hiring.
Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20 minute
interview where the person would naturally be on their best behavior in order
to
get the job? I think that's a stretch.
An> All the help in the world isn't very
An> useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message
An> boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in
An> general.
While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and
doesn't really apply to the case at hand. While I would agree that MRO is
generally an asshole, he was actually right in this thread.
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Digital Man
Feb 24, 2022, 9:41:41 PM2/24/22
to
To: Gamgee
Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Gamgee to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 07:02 pm
> -=> Andre wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-
>
> An> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> An> By: DesotoFireflite to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 11:29 am
>
> De> Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me
> De> over the years with synchronet. I haven't used his help in the last few
> De> years,
> An> All the help in the world isn't very
> An> useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message
> An> boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in
> An> general.
>
> While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and
> doesn't really apply to the case at hand. While I would agree that MRO is
> generally an asshole, he was actually right in this thread.
Actually, I don't think MRO added any technical value to the discussion whatsoever. <shrug>
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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Gamgee to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 07:02 pm
> -=> Andre wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-
>
> An> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> An> By: DesotoFireflite to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 11:29 am
>
> De> Allthough MRO may have his faults, he has been a tremdious help to me
> De> years,
>
> An> There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no
> An> assholes" rule for hiring.
>
> Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20
> minute interview where the person would naturally be on their best behavior
> in order to
> get the job? I think that's a stretch.
I interview a lot of people at work - you'd be surprised what you can glean from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person would be on their *best* behavior.
> An> There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no
> An> assholes" rule for hiring.
>
> Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20
> minute interview where the person would naturally be on their best behavior
> in order to
> get the job? I think that's a stretch.
> An> All the help in the world isn't very
> An> useful if they run everyone off and make people avoid the message
> An> boards, or in the worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in
> An> general.
>
> While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and
> doesn't really apply to the case at hand. While I would agree that MRO is
> generally an asshole, he was actually right in this thread.
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MRO
Feb 24, 2022, 10:14:17 PM2/24/22
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To: Nightfox
> TG> to others here.
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Nightfox to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:05 am
> TG> to others here.
>
> MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/
>
i wasnt even that bad.
> MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/
>
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Tim Whitson
Feb 25, 2022, 12:52:18 AM2/25/22
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To: MRO
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: Nightfox to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:05 am
>
> > TG> to others here.
>
> > MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/
>
>
> i wasnt even that bad.
I think I now have PTSD, I'll never run another batch file again...
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:08 pm
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: Nightfox to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:05 am
>
> > TG> to others here.
>
> > MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/
>
>
> i wasnt even that bad.
MRO
Feb 25, 2022, 3:14:26 AM2/25/22
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To: Tim Whitson
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:08 pm
>
> > Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> > By: Nightfox to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:05 am
>
> > > TG> to others here.
>
> > > MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/
>
>
> > i wasnt even that bad.
>
> I think I now have PTSD, I'll never run another batch file again...
the ironic thing is you got the problem wrong again.
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Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:49 pm
> Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:08 pm
>
> > Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> > By: Nightfox to Tristan Greaves on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:05 am
>
> > > TG> to others here.
>
> > > MRO tends to be toxic sometimes. :/
>
>
> > i wasnt even that bad.
>
> I think I now have PTSD, I'll never run another batch file again...
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Andre
Feb 25, 2022, 3:34:03 AM2/25/22
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To: Gamgee
Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Gamgee to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 07:02 pm
Ga> Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20
Ga> minute interview where the person would naturally be on their best
Ga> behavior in order to get the job? I think that's a stretch.
I've hired a lot of people and interviewed so many people I've lost count. The only odd personality that we missed was a weeb. And it's not necessarily that you're screening out the assholes directly. They get tossed out without anyone else who's arrogant about their ability.
And it's not just hiring. Those people get fired. Those people get lower bonuses and raises. I know, because I do those things.
Ga> While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and
Ga> doesn't really apply to the case at hand.
If you lead enough teams of people, either at work or in other parts of life, you learn quickly how fast people leave because of a toxic person. I've lost great employees because of it. And I've struggled to increase membership at clubs because of it... new people don't last more than a few meetings because of a bunch of morons that can't stop working politics into every discussion.
So no, I don't have hard data about BBS networks. I have a ton of personal experience that says it's probably been a problem here for years.
Ga> While I would agree that MRO is generally an asshole, he was actually
Ga> right in this thread.
The poster has a working solution. So there are multiple right solutions, maybe one being better than the other. One of those right solutions the poster walked away happy and had a good experience with the community. The other right solution had the person walk away feeling like the community is painful to be around.
Beyond that MRO and some of the others are a wider problem. MRO can't go a single post without being offensive. People who wear being an asshole as a badge of honor don't like when everyone else talks out loud about what an asshole they are. But he's far from the only problem person... The guys cursing each other out in General about Trump/Biden aren't much better.
Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Gamgee to Andre on Thu Feb 24 2022 07:02 pm
Ga> Really? Do you think they'd know a person was an asshole based on a 20
Ga> minute interview where the person would naturally be on their best
Ga> behavior in order to get the job? I think that's a stretch.
I've hired a lot of people and interviewed so many people I've lost count. The only odd personality that we missed was a weeb. And it's not necessarily that you're screening out the assholes directly. They get tossed out without anyone else who's arrogant about their ability.
And it's not just hiring. Those people get fired. Those people get lower bonuses and raises. I know, because I do those things.
Ga> While that may be (sort of) true, it's mostly projection/speculation, and
Ga> doesn't really apply to the case at hand.
If you lead enough teams of people, either at work or in other parts of life, you learn quickly how fast people leave because of a toxic person. I've lost great employees because of it. And I've struggled to increase membership at clubs because of it... new people don't last more than a few meetings because of a bunch of morons that can't stop working politics into every discussion.
So no, I don't have hard data about BBS networks. I have a ton of personal experience that says it's probably been a problem here for years.
Ga> While I would agree that MRO is generally an asshole, he was actually
Ga> right in this thread.
The poster has a working solution. So there are multiple right solutions, maybe one being better than the other. One of those right solutions the poster walked away happy and had a good experience with the community. The other right solution had the person walk away feeling like the community is painful to be around.
Beyond that MRO and some of the others are a wider problem. MRO can't go a single post without being offensive. People who wear being an asshole as a badge of honor don't like when everyone else talks out loud about what an asshole they are. But he's far from the only problem person... The guys cursing each other out in General about Trump/Biden aren't much better.
Andre
Feb 25, 2022, 3:34:04 AM2/25/22
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To: Tim Whitson
MRO> i wasnt even that bad.
TW> I think I now have PTSD, I'll never run another batch file again...
It's not just about you versus MRO. It's about the rest of us, new people checking about BBSes, others less active people who sit on the sidelines.
This sort of thing and the behavior in other sub-boards turns people away. Even the discussion about Star Wars and LOTR has now turned into trans, black elves, and drag queen story time (by MRO referencing buttplugs, of course).
Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tim Whitson to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 09:49 pm
MRO> i wasnt even that bad.
TW> I think I now have PTSD, I'll never run another batch file again...
It's not just about you versus MRO. It's about the rest of us, new people checking about BBSes, others less active people who sit on the sidelines.
This sort of thing and the behavior in other sub-boards turns people away. Even the discussion about Star Wars and LOTR has now turned into trans, black elves, and drag queen story time (by MRO referencing buttplugs, of course).
Tristan Greaves
Feb 25, 2022, 4:43:58 AM2/25/22
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To: Digital Man
DM> I interview a lot of people at work - you'd be surprised what you can glean from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
DM> would be on their *best* behavior.
100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true character traits...
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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Thu Feb 24 2022 06:41 pm
DM> I interview a lot of people at work - you'd be surprised what you can glean from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
DM> would be on their *best* behavior.
100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true character traits...
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MRO
Feb 25, 2022, 11:14:19 AM2/25/22
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To: Tristan Greaves
> Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Thu Feb 24 2022 06:41 pm
>
> DM> I interview a lot of people at work - you'd be surprised what you
>
> DM> can
> DM> glean from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
and interviews are a two way street. some people don't realize this.
I interviewed at a place where nobody was a fit in their current job and they
couldn't keep people. They acted like everything was perfectly normal. if i
were to ask them why people don't stay they'd say they don't know. the answer
is the place was falling apart. They mentioned how there was a lot of
opportunity. yeah i bet! so many people leave you can fill in for them along
with your current job.
I couldn't wait to get out of there. It was a huge waste of my time and i
sacrificed my sleep and time to go to that sham of an interview.
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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: Tristan Greaves to Digital Man on Fri Feb 25 2022 09:42 am
> Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
> By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Thu Feb 24 2022 06:41 pm
>
> DM> I interview a lot of people at work - you'd be surprised what you
>
> DM> glean from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
> DM> would be on their *best* behavior.
>
> 100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
>
> It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves
> under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true
> character traits...
i've found that at interviews what they don't say can say much more.
>
> 100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
>
> It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves
> under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true
> character traits...
and interviews are a two way street. some people don't realize this.
I interviewed at a place where nobody was a fit in their current job and they
couldn't keep people. They acted like everything was perfectly normal. if i
were to ask them why people don't stay they'd say they don't know. the answer
is the place was falling apart. They mentioned how there was a lot of
opportunity. yeah i bet! so many people leave you can fill in for them along
with your current job.
I couldn't wait to get out of there. It was a huge waste of my time and i
sacrificed my sleep and time to go to that sham of an interview.
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poindexter FORTRAN
Feb 27, 2022, 10:15:09 AM2/27/22
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To: Andre
Subject: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
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An> rule for hiring. All the help in the world isn't very useful if they
An> run everyone off and make people avoid the message boards, or in the
An> worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in general.
I worked in one company, for a period of time, where IT management and HR
hired cool smart people that got along well. One of my friends, who was a
BBS caller of mine was leaving to go back to school, and urged me to apply
there.
I went through the interview process, and they ended up making a position
for me based on my skills, not looking much like the position I applied for.
We ran a production e-commerce site with 8 people supporting everything, and
it just *worked*.
We'd hired a systems architect, and I approved his hire based on the role.
The manager who built the IT department left to go work for the parent
company, and instead of hiring someone new they promoted the architect - who
no one had vetted as a people manager.
Within 3 months, he'd brought in a crony friend of his and his hires ended
up not blending in with the rest of the department. It had all changed by
the time I ended up following my old manager to the parent company.
... Always the first steps
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Subject: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
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-=> Andre wrote to DesotoFireflite <=-
An> There's a reason a lot of companies and leaders have a "no assholes"
An> rule for hiring. All the help in the world isn't very useful if they
An> run everyone off and make people avoid the message boards, or in the
An> worst case, not want to contribute to BBSing in general.
I worked in one company, for a period of time, where IT management and HR
hired cool smart people that got along well. One of my friends, who was a
BBS caller of mine was leaving to go back to school, and urged me to apply
there.
I went through the interview process, and they ended up making a position
for me based on my skills, not looking much like the position I applied for.
We ran a production e-commerce site with 8 people supporting everything, and
it just *worked*.
We'd hired a systems architect, and I approved his hire based on the role.
The manager who built the IT department left to go work for the parent
company, and instead of hiring someone new they promoted the architect - who
no one had vetted as a people manager.
Within 3 months, he'd brought in a crony friend of his and his hires ended
up not blending in with the rest of the department. It had all changed by
the time I ended up following my old manager to the parent company.
... Always the first steps
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poindexter FORTRAN
Feb 27, 2022, 10:15:09 AM2/27/22
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To: Andre
Subject: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
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-=> Andre wrote to Gamgee <=-
An> I've hired a lot of people and interviewed so many people I've lost
An> count. The only odd personality that we missed was a weeb.
Thank you for my new word of the week.
... Go to an extreme, move back to a more comfortable place
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Subject: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
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-=> Andre wrote to Gamgee <=-
An> I've hired a lot of people and interviewed so many people I've lost
An> count. The only odd personality that we missed was a weeb.
Thank you for my new word of the week.
... Go to an extreme, move back to a more comfortable place
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poindexter FORTRAN
Feb 27, 2022, 10:15:10 AM2/27/22
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To: Andre
Subject: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
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-=> Andre wrote to Tim Whitson <=-
An> This sort of thing and the behavior in other sub-boards turns people
An> away. Even the discussion about Star Wars and LOTR has now turned into
An> trans, black elves, and drag queen story time (by MRO referencing
An> buttplugs, of course).
I was thinking that it was time to take him out of my killfile. Maybe not.
Subject: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
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-=> Andre wrote to Tim Whitson <=-
An> This sort of thing and the behavior in other sub-boards turns people
An> away. Even the discussion about Star Wars and LOTR has now turned into
An> trans, black elves, and drag queen story time (by MRO referencing
An> buttplugs, of course).
I was thinking that it was time to take him out of my killfile. Maybe not.
poindexter FORTRAN
Feb 27, 2022, 10:15:11 AM2/27/22
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To: Tristan Greaves
Subject: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
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-=> Tristan Greaves wrote to Digital Man <=-
TG> from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
TG> It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves
TG> under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true
TG> character traits...
"I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"
or
"Where would you like to be in 5 years?"
"Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."
... Where are we now?
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Subject: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
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-=> Tristan Greaves wrote to Digital Man <=-
TG> from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
DM> would be on their *best* behavior.
TG> 100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
TG> It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves
TG> under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true
TG> character traits...
"I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"
or
"Where would you like to be in 5 years?"
"Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."
... Where are we now?
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MRO
Feb 27, 2022, 12:44:34 PM2/27/22
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To: poindexter FORTRAN
Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tristan Greaves on Fri Feb 25 2022 07:37 am
> -=> Tristan Greaves wrote to Digital Man <=-
>
> TG> from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
> DM> would be on their *best* behavior.
>
> TG> 100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
>
> TG> It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves
> TG> under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true
> TG> character traits...
>
>
> "I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"
>
> or
>
> "Where would you like to be in 5 years?"
celebrating the 5 year anniversary of you asking me this question
>
> "Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."
>
my biggest weakness is I care too much.
i hate stupid interview questions. just shows how stupid the interviewer is.
i can't respect someone with moronic interview questions.
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Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tristan Greaves on Fri Feb 25 2022 07:37 am
> -=> Tristan Greaves wrote to Digital Man <=-
>
> TG> from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
> DM> would be on their *best* behavior.
>
> TG> 100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
>
> TG> It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves
> TG> under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true
> TG> character traits...
>
>
> "I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"
>
> or
>
> "Where would you like to be in 5 years?"
>
> "Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."
>
i hate stupid interview questions. just shows how stupid the interviewer is.
i can't respect someone with moronic interview questions.
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MRO
Feb 27, 2022, 12:44:35 PM2/27/22
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To: poindexter FORTRAN
Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tristan Greaves on Fri Feb 25 2022 07:37 am
Re: Re: Batch Files as a Timed Ev
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tristan Greaves on Fri Feb 25 2022 07:37 am
> -=> Tristan Greaves wrote to Digital Man <=-
>
> TG> from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
> DM> would be on their *best* behavior.
>
> TG> 100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
>
> TG> It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves
> TG> under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true
> TG> character traits...
>
>
> "I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"
>
> or
>
> "Where would you like to be in 5 years?"
>
> "Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."
>
>
by the way, just pointing out this is not synchronet related...
>
> TG> from interviews where yes, you'd expect a person
> DM> would be on their *best* behavior.
>
> TG> 100% agree with this. I also heavily interview.
>
> TG> It's surprising, but it happens, but people really do 'throw themselves
> TG> under the bus' sometimes when giving answers which reveal their true
> TG> character traits...
>
>
> "I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!"
>
> or
>
> "Where would you like to be in 5 years?"
>
> "Well, I'd have to say listening was my biggest weakness..."
>
>
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