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Al DeRosa
Nov 22, 2021, 7:36:17 AM11/22/21
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I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just doesn't take keyboard input from either the user or the console side.. Anyone run into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in advance..
AL
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AL
... Tech support is just a busy signal away
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Denn
Nov 22, 2021, 12:12:42 PM11/22/21
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To: Al DeRosa
Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to All on Mon Nov 22 2021 07:35 am
AD> I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone
AD> tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just doesn't
AD> take keyboard input from either the user or the console side.. Anyone run
AD> into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in advance..
I installed it a few years ago and it works fine on my BBS.
... People will buy anything that's one to a customer.
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Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to All on Mon Nov 22 2021 07:35 am
AD> I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone
AD> tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just doesn't
AD> take keyboard input from either the user or the console side.. Anyone run
AD> into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in advance..
I installed it a few years ago and it works fine on my BBS.
... People will buy anything that's one to a customer.
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Al DeRosa
Nov 22, 2021, 2:29:21 PM11/22/21
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To: Denn
On 22 Nov 2021, Denn said the following...
De>
De> I installed it a few years ago and it works fine on my BBS.
De>
De> ... People will buy anything that's one to a customer.
Don't know what it happening with it, I will check everything again. 2002 runs fine, as does 2001, just this one has some issues with accepting key strokes...
AL
... If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?
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On 22 Nov 2021, Denn said the following...
De>
De> I installed it a few years ago and it works fine on my BBS.
De>
De> ... People will buy anything that's one to a customer.
Don't know what it happening with it, I will check everything again. 2002 runs fine, as does 2001, just this one has some issues with accepting key strokes...
AL
... If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?
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Al DeRosa
Nov 22, 2021, 2:42:36 PM11/22/21
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Not sure if I mentioned it or not, but this is not the .json file, it is the original DOS version...
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... WOMAN.ZIP - Great program but no documentation
Digital Man
Nov 22, 2021, 2:43:49 PM11/22/21
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To: Al DeRosa
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to All on Mon Nov 22 2021 02:41 pm
> Not sure if I mentioned it or not, but this is not the .json file, it is the
> original DOS version...
Pasting your SCFG (and any other) configuration settings here could be helpful.
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digital man
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to All on Mon Nov 22 2021 02:41 pm
> Not sure if I mentioned it or not, but this is not the .json file, it is the
> original DOS version...
--
digital man
Sling Blade quote #21:
Karl: Coffee makes me nervous when I drink it. Mmm.
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Daryl Stout
Nov 22, 2021, 3:56:29 PM11/22/21
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To: Al DeRosa
AD> I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone
AD> tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just
AD> doesn't take keyboard input from either the user or the console side..
AD> Anyone run into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in
AD> advance..
You have to enable Console mode, as version 2 doesn't have fossil driver
support. At times, it can run slow, like Complete New World, but its
playable.
Daryl
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AD> I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone
AD> tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just
AD> doesn't take keyboard input from either the user or the console side..
AD> Anyone run into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in
AD> advance..
You have to enable Console mode, as version 2 doesn't have fossil driver
support. At times, it can run slow, like Complete New World, but its
playable.
Daryl
... I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.
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MRO
Nov 22, 2021, 6:02:56 PM11/22/21
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To: Al DeRosa
Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to All on Mon Nov 22 2021 07:35 am
> I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone
> tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just doesn't
> take keyboard input from either the user or the console side.. Anyone run
> into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in advance..
>
> AL
>
> ... Tech support is just a busy signal away
post your configuration settings.
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Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to All on Mon Nov 22 2021 07:35 am
> I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone
> tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just doesn't
> take keyboard input from either the user or the console side.. Anyone run
> into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in advance..
>
> AL
>
> ... Tech support is just a busy signal away
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Al DeRosa
Nov 22, 2021, 8:30:36 PM11/22/21
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To: Daryl Stout
On 22 Nov 2021, Daryl Stout said the following...
DS>
DS> You have to enable Console mode, as version 2 doesn't have fossil
DS> driver support. At times, it can run slow, like Complete New World, but
DS> its playable.
DS>
DS> Daryl
I will give it a shot, I will respond back with my findings..
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On 22 Nov 2021, Daryl Stout said the following...
DS>
DS> You have to enable Console mode, as version 2 doesn't have fossil
DS> driver support. At times, it can run slow, like Complete New World, but
DS> its playable.
DS>
DS> Daryl
I will give it a shot, I will respond back with my findings..
... Press SPACEBAR once to abort, or twice to save changes
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Al DeRosa
Nov 22, 2021, 8:30:37 PM11/22/21
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To: MRO
On 22 Nov 2021, MRO said the following...
MR>
MR> post your configuration settings.
Posted them in a response to DM...
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On 22 Nov 2021, MRO said the following...
MR>
MR> post your configuration settings.
Posted them in a response to DM...
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Al DeRosa
Nov 22, 2021, 8:30:37 PM11/22/21
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To: Digital Man
On 22 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
DM>
DM> Pasting your SCFG (and any other) configuration settings here could be
DM> helpful. --
DM> digital man
DM>
The config files for the game look to be compiled after filling out the info. As for SCFG, I have the startup directory as the TW21 Directory, the startup command as tw2.exe /D /P:C:\SBBS\XTRN\TW21\door.sys
Drop File GAP door.sys and the Drop file in the startup directory.
Other then that, it is pretty straight forward.. Thanks for any info you might be able to shed..
Al
... My tagline could eat your tagline for breakfast
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On 22 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
DM>
DM> Pasting your SCFG (and any other) configuration settings here could be
DM> helpful. --
DM> digital man
DM>
The config files for the game look to be compiled after filling out the info. As for SCFG, I have the startup directory as the TW21 Directory, the startup command as tw2.exe /D /P:C:\SBBS\XTRN\TW21\door.sys
Drop File GAP door.sys and the Drop file in the startup directory.
Other then that, it is pretty straight forward.. Thanks for any info you might be able to shed..
Al
... My tagline could eat your tagline for breakfast
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Digital Man
Nov 22, 2021, 8:41:35 PM11/22/21
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To: Al DeRosa
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 08:27 pm
> On 22 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
>
>
> DM> Pasting your SCFG (and any other) configuration settings here could be
> DM> helpful. --
> DM> digital man
>
>
Also, see here:
http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:door:index
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digital man
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 08:27 pm
> On 22 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
>
>
> DM> Pasting your SCFG (and any other) configuration settings here could be
> DM> helpful. --
> DM> digital man
>
>
> The config files for the game look to be compiled after filling out the
> info. As for SCFG, I have the startup directory as the TW21 Directory, the
> startup command as tw2.exe /D /P:C:\SBBS\XTRN\TW21\door.sys
> Drop File GAP door.sys and the Drop file in the startup directory.
>
> Other then that, it is pretty straight forward.. Thanks for any info you
> might be able to shed..
There are a few other settings in SCFG for door games that are important to getting a door game to work. Copy and *pasting* (like I said), the actual settings from SCFG into a post here could be helpful.
> info. As for SCFG, I have the startup directory as the TW21 Directory, the
> startup command as tw2.exe /D /P:C:\SBBS\XTRN\TW21\door.sys
> Drop File GAP door.sys and the Drop file in the startup directory.
>
> Other then that, it is pretty straight forward.. Thanks for any info you
> might be able to shed..
Also, see here:
http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:door:index
--
digital man
Rush quote #19:
Rebel without a conscience, martyr without a cause
Norco, CA WX: 72.5øF, 18.0% humidity, 1 mph SSE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
Digital Man
Nov 22, 2021, 9:00:08 PM11/22/21
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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Al DeRosa on Mon Nov 22 2021 01:33 pm
> AD> I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone
> AD> tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just
> AD> doesn't take keyboard input from either the user or the console side..
> AD> Anyone run into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in
> AD> advance..
>
> You have to enable Console mode, as version 2 doesn't have fossil driver
> support.
From the tw2.doc files I located (v11.14 and v11.20), both say "Support for FOSSIL communication drivers."
What release of TradeWars 2 are you referring to?
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digital man
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Al DeRosa on Mon Nov 22 2021 01:33 pm
> AD> I know this isn't technically a Synchro question, but it is. Has anyone
> AD> tried to install Tradewars2 in Synchro? I got it working, it just
> AD> doesn't take keyboard input from either the user or the console side..
> AD> Anyone run into something like this with any doors?? Thanks in
> AD> advance..
>
> You have to enable Console mode, as version 2 doesn't have fossil driver
> support.
What release of TradeWars 2 are you referring to?
--
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #7:
Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?
Norco, CA WX: 71.5øF, 17.0% humidity, 0 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
Al Derosa
Nov 22, 2021, 9:22:39 PM11/22/21
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To: Digital Man
DM> Re: Re: Tradewars 2
DM> By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 08:27 pm
DM> There are a few other settings in SCFG for door games that are important
DM> to getting a door game to work. Copy and *pasting* (like I said), the
DM> actual settings from SCFG into a post here could be helpful.
DM> Also, see here:
Ok I give... Where in the heck is my scfg?? I have looked in every directory for a scfg.ini or anything like that, all I can find is the scfg.exe..Sorry for seeming so stupid.. Just kind of lost here..
AL
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DM> Re: Re: Tradewars 2
DM> By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 08:27 pm
DM> There are a few other settings in SCFG for door games that are important
DM> to getting a door game to work. Copy and *pasting* (like I said), the
DM> actual settings from SCFG into a post here could be helpful.
DM> Also, see here:
Ok I give... Where in the heck is my scfg?? I have looked in every directory for a scfg.ini or anything like that, all I can find is the scfg.exe..Sorry for seeming so stupid.. Just kind of lost here..
AL
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Digital Man
Nov 22, 2021, 9:50:45 PM11/22/21
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To: Al Derosa
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al Derosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 09:22 pm
> DM> Re: Re: Tradewars 2
> DM> By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 08:27 pm
>
> DM> There are a few other settings in SCFG for door games that are
> DM> important to getting a door game to work. Copy and *pasting* (like I
> DM> said), the actual settings from SCFG into a post here could be helpful.
Name tw2test
Internal Code TW2TEST
Start-up Directory ../xtrn/tw2_1120
Command Line tw2 /P:%f
Clean-up Command Line
Execution Cost None
Access Requirements
Execution Requirements
Multiple Concurrent Users Yes
Intercept I/O No
Native Executable/Script No
Use Shell or New Context No
Modify User Data No
Execute on Event No
Pause After Execution No
BBS Drop File Type GAP DOOR.SYS
Place Drop File In Node Directory
I tried tw2 release 11.20 and I could reproduce the issue you described (output from the door, but it would not recognize keyboard input). I tried using the tw2 /C option to force the program to use the COM/UART output (hoping for different results), but it always seemed to detect and use the FOSSIL driver automatically (and it apparently isn't happy with the Synchronet FOSSIL driver).
I also tried using it's /D (DOSIO) I/O mode, but while keyboard input worked in that case, there was not display output.
I'm exerimenting to see if I can just disable the FOSSIL driver for a specific external program in SBBS/SCFG and seeing if that'll force TW2 to then use the COM/UART (which is also virtualized in the same FOSSIL driver, but it's a different interface to the program) and see if I get different results. I'm gusesing it's just a bug in the tw2 FOSSIL support, but don't know for sure yet. I'll get back to ya.
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digital man
Rush quote #48:
The point of the journey is not to arrive. Anything can happen.
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al Derosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 09:22 pm
> DM> Re: Re: Tradewars 2
> DM> By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 08:27 pm
>
> DM> There are a few other settings in SCFG for door games that are
> DM> said), the actual settings from SCFG into a post here could be helpful.
>
> DM> Also, see here:
> Ok I give... Where in the heck is my scfg?? I have looked in every directory
> for a scfg.ini or anything like that, all I can find is the scfg.exe..Sorry
> for seeming so stupid.. Just kind of lost here..
SCFG is the Synchronet configuration program. You can copy and paste settings from it here, like this:
> DM> Also, see here:
> Ok I give... Where in the heck is my scfg?? I have looked in every directory
> for a scfg.ini or anything like that, all I can find is the scfg.exe..Sorry
> for seeming so stupid.. Just kind of lost here..
Name tw2test
Internal Code TW2TEST
Start-up Directory ../xtrn/tw2_1120
Command Line tw2 /P:%f
Clean-up Command Line
Execution Cost None
Access Requirements
Execution Requirements
Multiple Concurrent Users Yes
Intercept I/O No
Native Executable/Script No
Use Shell or New Context No
Modify User Data No
Execute on Event No
Pause After Execution No
BBS Drop File Type GAP DOOR.SYS
Place Drop File In Node Directory
I tried tw2 release 11.20 and I could reproduce the issue you described (output from the door, but it would not recognize keyboard input). I tried using the tw2 /C option to force the program to use the COM/UART output (hoping for different results), but it always seemed to detect and use the FOSSIL driver automatically (and it apparently isn't happy with the Synchronet FOSSIL driver).
I also tried using it's /D (DOSIO) I/O mode, but while keyboard input worked in that case, there was not display output.
I'm exerimenting to see if I can just disable the FOSSIL driver for a specific external program in SBBS/SCFG and seeing if that'll force TW2 to then use the COM/UART (which is also virtualized in the same FOSSIL driver, but it's a different interface to the program) and see if I get different results. I'm gusesing it's just a bug in the tw2 FOSSIL support, but don't know for sure yet. I'll get back to ya.
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digital man
Rush quote #48:
The point of the journey is not to arrive. Anything can happen.
Norco, CA WX: 69.9øF, 18.0% humidity, 0 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
MRO
Nov 22, 2021, 10:02:58 PM11/22/21
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To: Al DeRosa
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
it wont accept input. not even from the local window.
so it's a stinker. dont use it.
use the javascript version. it's comparable.
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 08:27 pm
>
>
>
>
> The config files for the game look to be compiled after filling out the
> info. As for SCFG, I have the startup directory as the TW21 Directory, the
> startup command as tw2.exe /D /P:C:\SBBS\XTRN\TW21\door.sys
> Drop File GAP door.sys and the Drop file in the startup directory.
>
> Other then that, it is pretty straight forward.. Thanks for any info you
> might be able to shed..
>
> Al
so i had this setup a while ago and i deleted it from my bbs.
> info. As for SCFG, I have the startup directory as the TW21 Directory, the
> startup command as tw2.exe /D /P:C:\SBBS\XTRN\TW21\door.sys
> Drop File GAP door.sys and the Drop file in the startup directory.
>
> Other then that, it is pretty straight forward.. Thanks for any info you
> might be able to shed..
>
> Al
it wont accept input. not even from the local window.
so it's a stinker. dont use it.
use the javascript version. it's comparable.
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MRO
Nov 22, 2021, 10:32:59 PM11/22/21
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To: Digital Man
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Digital Man to Al Derosa on Mon Nov 22 2021 06:49 pm
DM> I'm exerimenting to see if I can just disable the FOSSIL driver for a
DM> specific external program in SBBS/SCFG and seeing if that'll force TW2 to
DM> then use the COM/UART (which is also virtualized in the same FOSSIL
DM> driver, but it's a different interface to the program) and see if I get
DM> different results. I'm gusesing it's just a bug in the tw2 FOSSIL support,
DM> but don't know for sure yet. I'll get back to ya.
DM> --
i think he can get it working with netfoss, but i dont think the game is worth it.
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Digital Man to Al Derosa on Mon Nov 22 2021 06:49 pm
DM> I'm exerimenting to see if I can just disable the FOSSIL driver for a
DM> specific external program in SBBS/SCFG and seeing if that'll force TW2 to
DM> then use the COM/UART (which is also virtualized in the same FOSSIL
DM> driver, but it's a different interface to the program) and see if I get
DM> different results. I'm gusesing it's just a bug in the tw2 FOSSIL support,
DM> but don't know for sure yet. I'll get back to ya.
DM> --
i think he can get it working with netfoss, but i dont think the game is worth it.
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Digital Man
Nov 22, 2021, 10:48:51 PM11/22/21
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To: MRO
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 09:06 pm
> Re: Re: Tradewars 2
> By: Digital Man to Al Derosa on Mon Nov 22 2021 06:49 pm
>
>
> DM> I'm exerimenting to see if I can just disable the FOSSIL driver for a
> DM> specific external program in SBBS/SCFG and seeing if that'll force TW2
> DM> to then use the COM/UART (which is also virtualized in the same FOSSIL
I tried disabling the FOSSIL support in a special build of SBBS and a couple of lines of text would come out of tw2 (release 11.20) before it would crash the ntvdm. Other doors seem to work fine however.
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digital man
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 09:06 pm
> Re: Re: Tradewars 2
> By: Digital Man to Al Derosa on Mon Nov 22 2021 06:49 pm
>
>
> DM> I'm exerimenting to see if I can just disable the FOSSIL driver for a
> DM> specific external program in SBBS/SCFG and seeing if that'll force TW2
> DM> driver, but it's a different interface to the program) and see if I get
> DM> different results. I'm gusesing it's just a bug in the tw2 FOSSIL
> DM> support, but don't know for sure yet. I'll get back to ya.
> DM> different results. I'm gusesing it's just a bug in the tw2 FOSSIL
> DM> --
>
>
> i think he can get it working with netfoss, but i dont think the game is
> worth it.
I would like to know if it works with netfoss - that could be indicator of some missing feature or bug in the Synchronet FOSSIL.
>
>
> i think he can get it working with netfoss, but i dont think the game is
> worth it.
I tried disabling the FOSSIL support in a special build of SBBS and a couple of lines of text would come out of tw2 (release 11.20) before it would crash the ntvdm. Other doors seem to work fine however.
--
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #37:
David St. Hubbins: We are Spinal Tap from the UK - you must be the USA!
Norco, CA WX: 70.0øF, 17.0% humidity, 3 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
Daryl Stout
Nov 23, 2021, 12:57:33 AM11/23/21
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To: Digital Man
Rob,
DM> From the tw2.doc files I located (v11.14 and v11.20), both say "Support
DM> for FOSSIL communication drivers."
DM> What release of TradeWars 2 are you referring to?
I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it didn't
show anything with fossil driver support.
Daryl
... I don't drink and drive, but I swig at stoplights.
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Rob,
DM> From the tw2.doc files I located (v11.14 and v11.20), both say "Support
DM> for FOSSIL communication drivers."
DM> What release of TradeWars 2 are you referring to?
I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it didn't
show anything with fossil driver support.
Daryl
... I don't drink and drive, but I swig at stoplights.
--- MultiMail/Win v0.52
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Denn
Nov 23, 2021, 3:12:35 AM11/23/21
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To: Al DeRosa
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to All on Mon Nov 22 2021 02:41 pm
AD> Not sure if I mentioned it or not, but this is not the .json file, it is
AD> the original DOS version...
OK that makes a huge difference, I use the json version.
... Those who live by the sword... kill those who don't.
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to All on Mon Nov 22 2021 02:41 pm
AD> Not sure if I mentioned it or not, but this is not the .json file, it is
AD> the original DOS version...
OK that makes a huge difference, I use the json version.
... Those who live by the sword... kill those who don't.
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Al DeRosa
Nov 23, 2021, 8:46:58 AM11/23/21
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To: Digital Man
On 22 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
DM>
DM> SCFG is the Synchronet configuration program. You can copy and paste
DM> settings from it here, like this:
DM>
DM> Name tw2test
DM> Internal Code TW2TEST
DM> Start-up Directory ../xtrn/tw2_1120
DM> Command Line tw2 /P:%f
DM> Clean-up Command Line
DM> Execution Cost None
DM> Access Requirements
DM> Execution Requirements
DM> Multiple Concurrent Users Yes
DM> Intercept I/O No
DM> Native Executable/Script No
DM> Use Shell or New Context No
DM> Modify User Data No
Got it, no use continuing this, I am thinking it's just not worth it.. The JSON version is fine.. I was just looking to add another Tradewars dirivative to my Door Server... Thank you DM for all the help... As always you have outdone yourself...
AL
... The person who snores the loudest will fall asleep first
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On 22 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
DM>
DM> settings from it here, like this:
DM>
DM> Name tw2test
DM> Internal Code TW2TEST
DM> Start-up Directory ../xtrn/tw2_1120
DM> Command Line tw2 /P:%f
DM> Clean-up Command Line
DM> Execution Cost None
DM> Access Requirements
DM> Execution Requirements
DM> Multiple Concurrent Users Yes
DM> Intercept I/O No
DM> Native Executable/Script No
DM> Use Shell or New Context No
DM> Modify User Data No
Got it, no use continuing this, I am thinking it's just not worth it.. The JSON version is fine.. I was just looking to add another Tradewars dirivative to my Door Server... Thank you DM for all the help... As always you have outdone yourself...
AL
... The person who snores the loudest will fall asleep first
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/11/18 (Windows/32)
Al DeRosa
Nov 23, 2021, 8:46:59 AM11/23/21
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To: MRO
On 22 Nov 2021, MRO said the following...
MR>
MR> i think he can get it working with netfoss, but i dont think the game is
On 22 Nov 2021, MRO said the following...
MR>
MR> worth it.
MR> ---
MR> ş Synchronet ş ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
I am starting to agree with you.. Thanks for the help...
... Youth is glorious, but it isn't a career
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Digital Man
Nov 23, 2021, 1:12:54 PM11/23/21
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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 09:24 pm
> Rob,
>
> DM> From the tw2.doc files I located (v11.14 and v11.20), both say "Support
> DM> for FOSSIL communication drivers."
>
> DM> What release of TradeWars 2 are you referring to?
>
> I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it didn't
> show anything with fossil driver support.
What does your tw2.doc file say (for that version) about FOSSIL support?
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Mon Nov 22 2021 09:24 pm
> Rob,
>
> DM> From the tw2.doc files I located (v11.14 and v11.20), both say "Support
> DM> for FOSSIL communication drivers."
>
> DM> What release of TradeWars 2 are you referring to?
>
> I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it didn't
> show anything with fossil driver support.
--
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Digital Man
Nov 23, 2021, 1:14:43 PM11/23/21
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To: Al DeRosa
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Tue Nov 23 2021 08:45 am
> Got it, no use continuing this, I am thinking it's just not worth it.. The
> JSON version is fine..
It's JavaScript (not JSON), but yeah, glad to hear its working for you.
> I was just looking to add another Tradewars
> dirivative to my Door Server... Thank you DM for all the help... As always
> you have outdone yourself...
It gave me some ideas, so maybe I can get it working after all.
--
digital man
Breaking Bad quote #5:
Sometimes the forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest. - Hank
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Tue Nov 23 2021 08:45 am
> Got it, no use continuing this, I am thinking it's just not worth it.. The
> JSON version is fine..
> I was just looking to add another Tradewars
> dirivative to my Door Server... Thank you DM for all the help... As always
> you have outdone yourself...
--
digital man
Breaking Bad quote #5:
Sometimes the forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest. - Hank
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Daryl Stout
Nov 23, 2021, 6:56:38 PM11/23/21
to
To: Digital Man
Rob,
> I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it didn't
> show anything with fossil driver support.
DM> What does your tw2.doc file say (for that version) about FOSSIL
DM> support? --
I looked, and there was NOTHING in the documentation about fossil support.
Version 3 of the game DOES have Fossil Driver Support...as does the Trade
Wars Services utility. The latter allows ways to obtain credits faster, and
for managing their empire (moving planets, colonists, commodities, etc.) to
needed sectors.
If there is a wide beta 8 of Trade Wars 2002 version 2, I'd like to obtain
it.
I lost the version of Trade Wars Services for version 3 of Trade Wars in
a crash years ago, and I've never been able to find it on the internet...the
developers are long gone. One version that I found apparently had a glitch,
where players could see where Ferrengal and any other planets were, including
those not their own. To me, that put newer players at a disadvantage in the
game...as they didn't have a chance to build up their resources against other
players.
I did see a message on Facebook about a new version of Trade Wars 2002
Game Server by John Pritchett (I don't recall his exact name), and I think
it was in the Telnet BBS Guide group. I'll defer to admin Dave Perussel on
that.
Daryl
... A Tribble a day keeps the Klingons away.
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Rob,
> I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it didn't
> show anything with fossil driver support.
DM> support? --
I looked, and there was NOTHING in the documentation about fossil support.
Version 3 of the game DOES have Fossil Driver Support...as does the Trade
Wars Services utility. The latter allows ways to obtain credits faster, and
for managing their empire (moving planets, colonists, commodities, etc.) to
needed sectors.
If there is a wide beta 8 of Trade Wars 2002 version 2, I'd like to obtain
it.
I lost the version of Trade Wars Services for version 3 of Trade Wars in
a crash years ago, and I've never been able to find it on the internet...the
developers are long gone. One version that I found apparently had a glitch,
where players could see where Ferrengal and any other planets were, including
those not their own. To me, that put newer players at a disadvantage in the
game...as they didn't have a chance to build up their resources against other
players.
I did see a message on Facebook about a new version of Trade Wars 2002
Game Server by John Pritchett (I don't recall his exact name), and I think
it was in the Telnet BBS Guide group. I'll defer to admin Dave Perussel on
that.
Daryl
... A Tribble a day keeps the Klingons away.
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Digital Man
Nov 23, 2021, 7:05:40 PM11/23/21
to
To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Tue Nov 23 2021 05:28 pm
> Rob,
>
> > I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it didn't
> > show anything with fossil driver support.
>
> DM> What does your tw2.doc file say (for that version) about FOSSIL
> DM> support? --
>
> I looked, and there was NOTHING in the documentation about fossil support.
Weird. The tw2.doc files I have here (and I have 2 of them), both detail their fossil support, e.g.
VERSION 2
SysOp Reference for Release 11.20
o Support for FOSSIL communication drivers.
F[OSSIL] - This will force the program to use FOSSIL driver for input
and output. This command is superfluous because TW2 will
automatically search for a FOSSIL driver and use it if it
is found. Using /F will cause TW2 to skip the search, and
simply try to use the FOSSIL. If the program fails to find
the FOSSIL driver, it will switch to its own com port
routines.
What is a FOSSIL driver? A FOSSIL driver is a device driver
loaded into your computers memory when it boots up. Usually
in your CONFIG.SYS file. It is a standardized way for
programs to interface to your communications port.
Same for release 11.14 from 1992. Maybe you should update your copy of tw2?
--
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Tue Nov 23 2021 05:28 pm
> Rob,
>
> > I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it didn't
> > show anything with fossil driver support.
>
> DM> What does your tw2.doc file say (for that version) about FOSSIL
> DM> support? --
>
> I looked, and there was NOTHING in the documentation about fossil support.
VERSION 2
SysOp Reference for Release 11.20
o Support for FOSSIL communication drivers.
F[OSSIL] - This will force the program to use FOSSIL driver for input
and output. This command is superfluous because TW2 will
automatically search for a FOSSIL driver and use it if it
is found. Using /F will cause TW2 to skip the search, and
simply try to use the FOSSIL. If the program fails to find
the FOSSIL driver, it will switch to its own com port
routines.
What is a FOSSIL driver? A FOSSIL driver is a device driver
loaded into your computers memory when it boots up. Usually
in your CONFIG.SYS file. It is a standardized way for
programs to interface to your communications port.
Same for release 11.14 from 1992. Maybe you should update your copy of tw2?
--
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #64:
Synchronet PCMS (introduced w/v2.0) is Programmable Command and Menu Structure.
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Al DeRosa
Nov 23, 2021, 7:31:58 PM11/23/21
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To: Digital Man
On 23 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
DM>
DM>
DM> It's JavaScript (not JSON), but yeah, glad to hear its working for you.
DM>
I always mix them up.. Sorry...
DM> > I was just looking to add another Tradewars
DM>
DM> It gave me some ideas, so maybe I can get it working after all.
DM> --
DM> digital man
Well if anyone can, that would be you.. :)
... I have a really good memory, except it's short.
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On 23 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
DM>
DM>
DM> It's JavaScript (not JSON), but yeah, glad to hear its working for you.
DM>
I always mix them up.. Sorry...
DM> > I was just looking to add another Tradewars
DM>
DM> It gave me some ideas, so maybe I can get it working after all.
DM> --
DM> digital man
Well if anyone can, that would be you.. :)
... I have a really good memory, except it's short.
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MRO
Nov 23, 2021, 8:33:04 PM11/23/21
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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Tue Nov 23 2021 05:28 pm
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Tue Nov 23 2021 05:28 pm
>> I want to say Wide Beta 7. When I went to option O in TEDIT, it
>> didn't show anything with fossil driver support.
DM>> What does your tw2.doc file say (for that version) about FOSSIL
DM>> support? --
DS> I looked, and there was NOTHING in the documentation about fossil support.
>> didn't show anything with fossil driver support.
DM>> What does your tw2.doc file say (for that version) about FOSSIL
DM>> support? --
DS> Version 3 of the game DOES have Fossil Driver Support...as does the Trade
you are confused about what version we are talking about.
my copy of this tw2 game has twedit.exe
DS> If there is a wide beta 8 of Trade Wars 2002 version 2, I'd like to obtain
DS> it.
tradewards 2002 isnt the same version that we are talking about.
DS> I did see a message on Facebook about a new version of Trade Wars 2002
DS> Game Server by John Pritchett (I don't recall his exact name), and I think
DS> it was in the Telnet BBS Guide group. I'll defer to admin Dave Perussel on
DS> that.
https://eisonline.classictw.com/
not all accurate info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_Wars
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MRO
Nov 23, 2021, 8:33:05 PM11/23/21
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To: Digital Man
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Digital Man to Daryl Stout on Tue Nov 23 2021 04:05 pm
DM> What is a FOSSIL driver? A FOSSIL driver is a device driver
DM> loaded into your computers memory when it boots up. Usually
DM> in your CONFIG.SYS file. It is a standardized way for
DM> programs to interface to your communications port.
DM> Same for release 11.14 from 1992. Maybe you should update your copy of
DM> tw2? --
he's confused about what game he's using.
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Digital Man to Daryl Stout on Tue Nov 23 2021 04:05 pm
DM> What is a FOSSIL driver? A FOSSIL driver is a device driver
DM> loaded into your computers memory when it boots up. Usually
DM> in your CONFIG.SYS file. It is a standardized way for
DM> programs to interface to your communications port.
DM> Same for release 11.14 from 1992. Maybe you should update your copy of
DM> tw2? --
he's confused about what game he's using.
---
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Digital Man
Nov 24, 2021, 12:25:01 AM11/24/21
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To: Al DeRosa
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Tue Nov 23 2021 07:30 pm
> DM> > I was just looking to add another Tradewars
>
> DM> It gave me some ideas, so maybe I can get it working after all.
You can get the updated dosxtrn.exe here:
ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/dosxtrn.exe
http://web.synchro.net/api/files.ssjs?call=download-file&dir=sbbs&file=dosxtrn.exe
The "fix" was to implement a dummy "Keyboard read" function in the Synchronet FOSSIL driver. Apparently TW2 is using this function to read the local keyboard (weird) and unless that FOSSIL function returns the special "no key available" value (0xFFFF in AX), then TW2 will never call the FOSSIL function to read a character from the COM port. Anyway, it's working now.
--
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #37:
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Tue Nov 23 2021 07:30 pm
> DM> > I was just looking to add another Tradewars
>
> DM> It gave me some ideas, so maybe I can get it working after all.
> Well if anyone can, that would be you.. :)
Ah, and so I did. :-)
You can get the updated dosxtrn.exe here:
ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/dosxtrn.exe
http://web.synchro.net/api/files.ssjs?call=download-file&dir=sbbs&file=dosxtrn.exe
The "fix" was to implement a dummy "Keyboard read" function in the Synchronet FOSSIL driver. Apparently TW2 is using this function to read the local keyboard (weird) and unless that FOSSIL function returns the special "no key available" value (0xFFFF in AX), then TW2 will never call the FOSSIL function to read a character from the COM port. Anyway, it's working now.
--
digital man
Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #37:
FTSC = FidoNet Technical Standards Committee
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Al DeRosa
Nov 24, 2021, 9:06:36 AM11/24/21
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To: Digital Man
On 23 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
DM>
DM> Ah, and so I did. :-)
On 23 Nov 2021, Digital Man said the following...
DM>
DM>
DM> You can get the updated dosxtrn.exe here:
DM> ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/dosxtrn.exe
DM> http://web.synchro.net/api/files.ssjs?call=download-file&dir=sbbs&file=dos
DM> xe
DM>
Unbelievable... Thanks!!
Al
... Unzip... expand... What kind of pervert came up with this?
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Al Derosa
Nov 24, 2021, 9:14:52 AM11/24/21
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To: Digital Man
DM> You can get the updated dosxtrn.exe here:
DM> ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/dosxtrn.exe
DM> http://web.synchro.net/api/files.
DM> ssjs?call=download-file&dir=sbbs&file=dosxtrn.exe
And as expected works like a charm!! Thank you again...
Al
DM> Re: Re: Tradewars 2
DM> Ah, and so I did. :-)
DM> You can get the updated dosxtrn.exe here:
DM> ftp://vert.synchro.net/Synchronet/dosxtrn.exe
DM> http://web.synchro.net/api/files.
And as expected works like a charm!! Thank you again...
Al
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Daryl Stout
Nov 24, 2021, 10:05:35 AM11/24/21
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To: Digital Man
Rob,
DM> Same for release 11.14 from 1992. Maybe you should update your copy of
DM> tw2? --
It looks that way. I hate to start a new game, though...but it'd be
easier with a fossil driver.
Daryl
... I am Porky of Borg. You will be as-s-s-sim, as-s-s-sim, oh, forget it.
Rob,
DM> Same for release 11.14 from 1992. Maybe you should update your copy of
DM> tw2? --
It looks that way. I hate to start a new game, though...but it'd be
easier with a fossil driver.
Daryl
... I am Porky of Borg. You will be as-s-s-sim, as-s-s-sim, oh, forget it.
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Digital Man
Nov 24, 2021, 12:26:48 PM11/24/21
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To: Al Derosa
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al Derosa to Digital Man on Wed Nov 24 2021 09:14 am
> And as expected works like a charm!! Thank you again...
Ah, good to hear. Thanks for the report and response.
--
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Breaking Bad quote #18:
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Al Derosa to Digital Man on Wed Nov 24 2021 09:14 am
> And as expected works like a charm!! Thank you again...
--
digital man
Breaking Bad quote #18:
Already, Operation: TBD, thanks for nothing Gomey. - Hank
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Digital Man
Nov 24, 2021, 12:27:51 PM11/24/21
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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Wed Nov 24 2021 08:59 am
> Rob,
>
> DM> Same for release 11.14 from 1992. Maybe you should update your copy of
> DM> tw2? --
>
> It looks that way. I hate to start a new game, though...but it'd be
> easier with a fossil driver.
What year was the version of the game that *you're* playing, released?
--
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #89:
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Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Wed Nov 24 2021 08:59 am
> Rob,
>
> DM> Same for release 11.14 from 1992. Maybe you should update your copy of
> DM> tw2? --
>
> It looks that way. I hate to start a new game, though...but it'd be
> easier with a fossil driver.
--
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #89:
Rob played drums on the LP "Weedpuller" available for digital purchase/stream
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Daryl Stout
Nov 24, 2021, 10:05:40 PM11/24/21
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To: Digital Man
Rob,
DM> What year was the version of the game that *you're* playing, released?
The date on the main executable is Sept. 20, 1995. It's version 2, wide
beta 8. I could not find any version prior to version 3 at archives.thebbs.org
and apparently bbsfiles.com is down (the author has been battling cancer).
I have several addons (Q, Wandering Planets, Supply Ship, Bajorans, Borg,
Cardassians, Klingons, Romulans, and Vulcans), along with Trade Wars Services.
The date on the race add-ons is March 28, 1996, with the date on Q, The
Wandering Planets, and the Supply Ship as of May 25, 1995. Trade Wars
Services is dated March 1, 1996.
None of these that I noted can be registered anymore...I was lucky enough
to register them before they were abandoned.
Daryl
... Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool Running: Deleting The Windows OS.
Rob,
DM> What year was the version of the game that *you're* playing, released?
The date on the main executable is Sept. 20, 1995. It's version 2, wide
beta 8. I could not find any version prior to version 3 at archives.thebbs.org
and apparently bbsfiles.com is down (the author has been battling cancer).
I have several addons (Q, Wandering Planets, Supply Ship, Bajorans, Borg,
Cardassians, Klingons, Romulans, and Vulcans), along with Trade Wars Services.
The date on the race add-ons is March 28, 1996, with the date on Q, The
Wandering Planets, and the Supply Ship as of May 25, 1995. Trade Wars
Services is dated March 1, 1996.
None of these that I noted can be registered anymore...I was lucky enough
to register them before they were abandoned.
Daryl
... Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool Running: Deleting The Windows OS.
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Digital Man
Nov 28, 2021, 2:58:25 AM11/28/21
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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Wed Nov 24 2021 07:55 pm
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
> Rob,
>
> DM> What year was the version of the game that *you're* playing, released?
>
> The date on the main executable is Sept. 20, 1995. It's version 2, wide
> beta 8.
Does your door game or documentation say "2002"? If yes, that's not the game we're discussing.
--
digital man
Synchronet "Real Fact" #48:
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Daryl Stout
Nov 28, 2021, 12:07:38 PM11/28/21
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To: Digital Man
Rob,
DM> Does your door game or documentation say "2002"? If yes, that's not the
DM> game we're discussing. --
It's the original game from Martech Software.
Daryl
... "Oh, Bother!!" said Pooh, when he discovered that his desired tagline woul
Rob,
DM> Does your door game or documentation say "2002"? If yes, that's not the
DM> game we're discussing. --
It's the original game from Martech Software.
Daryl
... "Oh, Bother!!" said Pooh, when he discovered that his desired tagline woul
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Digital Man
Nov 28, 2021, 2:16:11 PM11/28/21
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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Sun Nov 28 2021 09:27 am
Re: Re: Tradewars 2
> Rob,
>
>
> DM> Does your door game or documentation say "2002"? If yes, that's not the
> DM> game we're discussing. --
>
> It's the original game from Martech Software.
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SysOp Reference for Release 11.20
From the Creator of the original TradeWars game: Chris Sherrick
Software & Documentation updates by John Morris
Copyright (c) 1989 - 1993 by John Morris
All Rights Reserved
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digital man
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Daryl Stout
Nov 28, 2021, 9:07:39 PM11/28/21
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To: Digital Man
Rob,
DM> The game we are discussing makes no mention of Martech Software:
OK, I had never heard of that game. Sorry for the confusion.
Daryl
... If you have a rotary phone, please press 1 now.
Rob,
DM> The game we are discussing makes no mention of Martech Software:
OK, I had never heard of that game. Sorry for the confusion.
Daryl
... If you have a rotary phone, please press 1 now.
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