Fidonet Questions
Mojo
Hi Lord Time,
I have my fidonet node number and now need to sign up for a feed and get
the hub number. I have some questions about the configuration
Here are some questions about your helpfile located here...
1/
http://time.synchro.net:81/fidonet.ssjs
---begin snippet from helpfile---
Now I just put these in my sbbs\exec directory, Pkzip and Pkunzip. In
order for your Sbbsecho to perform correctly. These files must be
included in your Environment variables in the PATH entry. This is so
Sbbsecho can uncompress and or compress messages.
---end snippet from helpfile---
In the above snippet taken from the help file, I am not sure how to get
these files included in my environment path. I thought the PATH
environment only held directories?
In windows, if I right click on my computer and go to the environment
tab its split into two 1) system envion variables and 2) user environ
variables. The path variable is in the system part currently and I have:
SBBSCTRL=C:\SBBS\CRTL
SBBSNODE=C:\SBBS\NODE21
How should this pkzip, pkunzip now be set up in the environment
2/
In the section where we are setting up the fidonet nodes (ssbsecho
configuration) such as
1:xxx/xxx
1:ALL
2:ALL
etc...
I did not understand this part.
I know the first node will be my HUB, but what other nodes (1:ALL, etc)
should I have in there.
3/ This question is about the radius setup near the end of the tutorial.
how will these guys connect to me binkp or telnet. What the coordinator
has told me is this:
---begin snippet from coordinator---
Being that you said you will be installing Radius, I am listing your
connection type as binkp, the standard port for binkp is 24554, no
need to change that as it wont interfere with your BBS. Since your BBS
is independently listening on telnet port 8000, I did not list telnet
on your listing as the BBS would not deal with Fido mailer
connections, Radius will be handling your direct interface with
Fidonet.. Radius does offer telnet and ifcico connection abilities,
ITN port 60177 for telnet and IFC port 60179 for ifcico, I have
included those in your listing as well, but 99.9% of your connection
abilities will be utilized via binkp.
---end snippet from coordinator---
Will I have to open 24554, and 60177 in my router and forward to bbs
machine?
4/ I've been assigned a fidonet node number and have to sign up here for
a feed and hub number (http://www.cassell.us/formxp/index.php?fid=29)
and need some explanations to some of the fields.
a) Will I be using something called the Binkp protocol?
b) How do I want to deal with mail and file delivery (crash or poll)?
c)if crash, will the binkd be running on a nonstandard port? I have to
state it.
d)will I want to route netmail for other fidonet nodes besides myself?
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Jas Hud
> I have my fidonet node number and now need to sign up for a feed and get
> the hub number. I have some questions about the configuration
> SBBSCTRL=C:\SBBS\CRTL SBBSNODE=C:\SBBS\NODE21
CTRL not crtl
> 3/ This question is about the radius setup near the end of the tutorial.
> how will these guys connect to me binkp or telnet. What the coordinator
> has told me is this: ---begin snippet from coordinator--- Being that
> you said you will be installing Radius, I am listing your connection
> type as binkp, the standard port for binkp is 24554, no need to
> change that as it wont interfere with your BBS. Since your BBS is
> independently listening on telnet port 8000, I did not list telnet on
> your listing as the BBS would not deal with Fido mailer connections,
> Radius will be handling your direct interface with Fidonet..
> Radius does offer telnet and ifcico connection abilities, ITN port
> 60177 for telnet and IFC port 60179 for ifcico, I have included
> those in your listing as well, but 99.9% of your connection
> abilities will be utilized via binkp. ---end snippet from
> coordinator---
> Will I have to open 24554, and 60177 in my router and forward to bbs
> machine?
why not ask your feed these questions, i'm sure they'll be more than happy to
help you.
i'm pretty sure lord time's helpfile isnt enough to get you up and running at
your experience level.
i do recall runemaster had a great fidonet synchronet tutorial, you should
look into that.
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Mojo
> To: Mojo
> > Will I have to open 24554, and 60177 in my router and forward to bbs
> > machine?
> why not ask your feed these questions, i'm sure they'll be more than happy t
I did after posting this msg, so that part was cleard up for me.
> i'm pretty sure lord time's helpfile isnt enough to get you up and running a
> your experience level.
It's pretty straight forward and easy to follow except for the questions I
had about the pkzip part. What I think he meant there thought was to add
c:\sbbs\exec (the path where his pkzip, pkunzip are) the the ENVVIORNMENT
PATH variable. I am sure of it.
The fidonet nodes in sbbsecho config part still has me in the dark.
> i do recall runemaster had a great fidonet synchronet tutorial, you should
> look into that.
Is this a BBS? Website page? link?
Thanks.
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Jason H.@@@nospam@@@
> > look into that.
>
> Is this a BBS? Website page? link?
>
> Thanks.
>
i'm not sure whats going on with that guy, but he's been up and down
and disappeared and came back quite frequently over the last couple of
years.
used to be at http://net229.darktech.org/fidosetup/index.html
pretty sure the archive.org has it cached.
i saved a copy of his web on my website, and i posted a link, this was
probably a few months ago. you can logon to your system or dovenet and
do a text search.
Jason H.@@@nospam@@@
>
> > i do recall runemaster had a great fidonet synchronet tutorial, you should
> > look into that.
>
> Is this a BBS? Website page? link?
>
> Thanks.
here ya go
httxp://XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXeob-bbs.com/web.archive/bbs/net229.darktech.org/fidosetup/synchronet.html
remove the x's
Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 01:34 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > I have my fidonet node number and now need to sign up for a feed and
JH> get > the hub number. I have some questions about the configuration
JH> > SBBSCTRL=C:\SBBS\CRTL SBBSNODE=C:\SBBS\NODE21
JH> CTRL not crtl
I saw this (before I even started my replys)
JH> > 3/ This question is about the radius setup near the end of the tutorial.
JH> > how will these guys connect to me binkp or telnet. What the coordinator
JH> > has told me is this: ---begin snippet from coordinator--- Being that
JH> > you said you will be installing Radius, I am listing your connection
JH> > type as binkp, the standard port for binkp is 24554, no need to
JH> > change that as it wont interfere with your BBS. Since your BBS is
JH> > independently listening on telnet port 8000, I did not list telnet on
JH> > your listing as the BBS would not deal with Fido mailer connections,
JH> > Radius will be handling your direct interface with Fidonet..
JH> > Radius does offer telnet and ifcico connection abilities, ITN port
JH> > 60177 for telnet and IFC port 60179 for ifcico, I have included
JH> > those in your listing as well, but 99.9% of your connection
JH> > abilities will be utilized via binkp. ---end snippet from
JH> > coordinator---
JH> > Will I have to open 24554, and 60177 in my router and forward to bbs
JH> > machine?
JH> why not ask your feed these questions, i'm sure they'll be more than happy
JH> to help you.
JH> i'm pretty sure lord time's helpfile isnt enough to get you up and running
JH> at your experience level.
it does a good
JH> i do recall runemaster had a great fidonet synchronet tutorial, you should
JH> look into that.
from my http://lordtime.bbsindex.com:81/fidonet.ssjs web page :
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Updated by Lord Time of Time Warp of the Future BBS 12/15/08 (on the links and e-
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Lord Time
In a reply from Mojo on 18:26 about Fidonet Questions
M> I have my fidonet node number and now need to sign up for a feed and get
M> the hub number.
ok
M> I have some questions about the configuration
ok
M> Here are some questions about your helpfile located here...
M> 1/
M> http://time.synchro.net:81/fidonet.ssjs
and did you look at http://lordtime.bbsindex.com:81/sbbs.ssjs
M> ---begin snippet from helpfile---
M> Now I just put these in my sbbs\exec directory, Pkzip and Pkunzip. In
M> order for your Sbbsecho to perform correctly. These files must be
M> included in your Environment variables in the PATH entry. This is so
M> Sbbsecho can uncompress and or compress messages.
M> ---end snippet from helpfile---
M> In the above snippet taken from the help file, I am not sure how to get
M> these files included in my environment path. I thought the PATH
M> environment only held directories?
M> In windows, if I right click on my computer and go to the environment
M> tab its split into two 1) system envion variables and 2) user environ
M> variables. The path variable is in the system part currently and I have:
M> SBBSCTRL=C:\SBBS\CRTL
M> SBBSNODE=C:\SBBS\NODE21
3. Initializing the SBBSCTRL Environment Variable
-------------------------------------------------
For Windows NT-based operating systems, goto the Windows Control Panel->
System->Advanced->Environment Variables->System Variables->New...
Variable: SBBSCTRL
Variable Value: c:\sbbs\ctrl
(replace c:\sbbs\ctrl with the full path to your ctrl directory)
M> How should this pkzip, pkunzip now be set up in the environment
you don't
for xp : put a copy of pkzip.exe & pkunzip.exe in your
\windows\system & \windows\system32 dir.
for 2000 : put a copy of pkzip.exe & pkunzip.exe in your
\winnt\system & \winnt\system32 dir.
M> 2/
M> In the section where we are setting up the fidonet nodes (ssbsecho
M> configuration) such as
M> 1:xxx/xxx
M> 1:ALL
M> 2:ALL
M> etc...
M> I did not understand this part.
M> I know the first node will be my HUB, but what other nodes (1:ALL, etc)
M> should I have in there.
here mine :
Address 1:ALL
Archive Type ZIP
Packet Type 2+
Packet Password ***********
Areafix Password
Areafix Flags
Status Crash
Direct Yes
Passive No
Send Notify List No
Route To 1:14/5
* = password
M> 3/ This question is about the radius setup near the end of the tutorial.
M> how will these guys connect to me binkp or telnet. What the coordinator
M> has told me is this:
M> ---begin snippet from coordinator---
M> Being that you said you will be installing Radius, I am listing your
M> connection type as binkp, the standard port for binkp is 24554, no
M> need to change that as it wont interfere with your BBS. Since your BBS
M> is independently listening on telnet port 8000, I did not list telnet
M> on your listing as the BBS would not deal with Fido mailer
M> connections, Radius will be handling your direct interface with
M> Fidonet.. Radius does offer telnet and ifcico connection abilities,
M> ITN port 60177 for telnet and IFC port 60179 for ifcico, I have
M> included those in your listing as well, but 99.9% of your connection
M> abilities will be utilized via binkp.
M> ---end snippet from coordinator---
ok
M> Will I have to open 24554, and 60177 in my router and forward to bbs
M> machine?
yep
M> 4/ I've been assigned a fidonet node number and have to sign up here for
M> a feed and hub number (http://www.cassell.us/formxp/index.php?fid=29)
M> and need some explanations to some of the fields.
ok
M> a) Will I be using something called the Binkp protocol?
M> b) How do I want to deal with mail and file delivery (crash or poll)?
I do both (being once while I can't connect to my fido-net hub)
M> c)if crash, will the binkd be running on a nonstandard port? I have to
M> state it.
normal ports
M> d)will I want to route netmail for other fidonet nodes besides myself?
hmm, how to answer this, I try to go direct on most (if I have ftn connection
with them on a another net) and some routed
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Digital Man
Re: Fidonet Questions
By: Mojo to Jas Hud on Tue Feb 10 2009 08:21 am
>
> > To: Mojo
> > > Will I have to open 24554, and 60177 in my router and forward to bbs
> > > machine?
> > why not ask your feed these questions, i'm sure they'll be more than
> > happy t help you.
>
> I did after posting this msg, so that part was cleard up for me.
>
> > i'm pretty sure lord time's helpfile isnt enough to get you up and
> > running a your experience level.
>
> It's pretty straight forward and easy to follow except for the questions I
> had about the pkzip part. What I think he meant there thought was to add
> c:\sbbs\exec (the path where his pkzip, pkunzip are) the the ENVVIORNMENT
> PATH variable. I am sure of it.
Yes. And even that is old information as the newest default SBBS and SBBSECHO
configurations use Info-Zip (zip.exe and unzip.exe) instead of pkzip.
> The fidonet nodes in sbbsecho config part still has me in the dark.
If you're just doing echomail and zone 1 netmail, you only need 2 entries, one
for your uplink and one for everyone else (e.g. 1:ALL).
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Mojo
I now find that these two help files have information that conflict each
other such as when it comes to defining paths for their setup.
I'll query the NC assigned to me and see if he can come in via ssh or
something and sort this out.
Deuce
Re: Fidonet Questions
> I now find that these two help files have information that conflict each
> other such as when it comes to defining paths for their setup.
Which two help files?
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Jas Hud
> M> How should this pkzip, pkunzip now be set up in the environment
> you don't
> for xp : put a copy of pkzip.exe & pkunzip.exe in your
> \windows\system & \windows\system32 dir.
> for 2000 : put a copy of pkzip.exe & pkunzip.exe in your
> \winnt\system & \winnt\system32 dir.
OR.. put the dir where the programs are into your PATH statement
Jas Hud
> JH> i do recall runemaster had a great fidonet synchronet tutorial, you shou
> from my http://lordtime.bbsindex.com:81/fidonet.ssjs web page :
> By Dantin Hart of Rat's Nest BBS 9/22/05 Updated by Lord Time of Time
> Warp of the Future BBS 12/15/08 (on the links a mail)
oookay. i was mentioning runemaster's one, but i went to that link
and couldnt connect.
Netsurge
Re: Fidonet Questions
By: Mojo to Jas Hud on Tue Feb 10 2009 10:25 pm
>
> I now find that these two help files have information that conflict each
> other such as when it comes to defining paths for their setup.
>
> I'll query the NC assigned to me and see if he can come in via ssh or
> something and sort this out.
Send me an email or login to bbs.diskshop.ca and i'll be more than glad to get
you going.
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Mojo
> OR.. put the dir where the programs are into your PATH statement
That was my preferred method. I didnt want to have c:\sbbs\exec in the path,
so i droped them in a dir off of c:\sbbs\exec and put that dir in the path.
But it looks like it was not needed in any event as the latest versions use
zip and unzip instead.
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Mojo
> Yes. And even that is old information as the newest default SBBS and SBBSECH
Bummer. I've alreay switched it to pkzip, and pkunzip. Can you give me back
what valuse you have for ZIP, so I can re-enter them back as they were?
> If you're just doing echomail and zone 1 netmail, you only need 2 entries, o
> for your uplink and one for everyone else (e.g. 1:ALL).
Ok, that is much clearer. One question though. If I only have those two
entires. Would I be still able to send netmail to someone in another zone
say Zone 3? Will it go to my hub and somehow be routed into zone 3, even
though I don't specify a 3:ALL?
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Mojo
> Re: Fidonet Questions
> By: Mojo to Jas Hud on Tue Feb 10 2009 10:25 pm
> > I now find that these two help files have information that conflict each
> > other such as when it comes to defining paths for their setup.
> Which two help files?
1) httxxxp:// time.synchro.net:81/fidonet.ssjs
2)
httxxxp://eob-bbs.com/web.archive/bbs/net229.darktech.org/fidosetup/index.html
I am not sure why by remove the xxx's that I put in the http.
Now.
In helpfile (1) under scfg -> Fidonet echomail and netmail
Inbound File Directory = \blah\blah\in\
Echo Mail Direcotry = \blah\blah\echo\
Netmail Directory = \blah\blah\out\
... and these are stuck too when also configuring radius further down the
page.
I.E. he maintins in the radius gui setup outbound = \blah\blah\out
But in helpfile (2) under scfg -> Fidonet echomail and netmail
Inbound File Directory = \blah\blah\in\
Echo Mail Base Directory = \blah\blah\echo\
Netmail Directory = \blah\blah\netmail\
BUT further down where the guy is configuring argus/radius
Outbound = \blah\blah\out
Initally when I read the first helpfile because he used the netmail directory
and the radiuos outbound directory were set to the same, I thought they were
the same thing. Maybe not? But in helpfile 2, the other guy has a seperate
netmail directory from his argus/radius outbound.
Back to helpfile 1 In his radius setup under TCP/IP Daemon Configuration on
the general tab, he has BinkP = 24554 but later on down in the helpfile in
the same dialog box but this time under the nodes tab a 24555 port appears.
I am not sure if this is a typo or if his hub is using a non-standard binkp
port (one other than 24554), so they can speak to each other.
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Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 03:01 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > JH> i do recall runemaster had a great fidonet synchronet tutorial, you
JH> > JH> shou look into that.
JH> > from my http://lordtime.bbsindex.com:81/fidonet.ssjs web page :
JH> > By Dantin Hart of Rat's Nest BBS 9/22/05 Updated by Lord Time of Time
JH> > Warp of the Future BBS 12/15/08 (on the links a mail)
JH> oookay. i was mentioning runemaster's one, but i went to that link
JH> and couldnt connect.
hmm, you should be able to, did you copy the link or type it in?
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In a reply from Jas Hud on 03:00 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > M> How should this pkzip, pkunzip now be set up in the environment
JH> > you don't
JH> > for xp : put a copy of pkzip.exe & pkunzip.exe in your
JH> > \windows\system & \windows\system32 dir.
JH> > for 2000 : put a copy of pkzip.exe & pkunzip.exe in your
JH> > \winnt\system & \winnt\system32 dir.
JH> OR.. put the dir where the programs are into your PATH statement
think of it as if you installing a door game from dos and not useing winzip
(or something like that)
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Jas Hud
> That was my preferred method. I didnt want to have c:\sbbs\exec in the path
> But it looks like it was not needed in any event as the latest versions use
> zip and unzip instead.
pkzip/unzip, doesnt matter, whatever works. just get the
syntax right.
Mojo
I think I'll take you up on this offer as soon as I land back at home this
evening. I'll shoot that email off to you.
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Jas Hud
> hmm, you should be able to, did you copy the link or type it in?
how about you check to see if your web is up, cause i'm RD'd into datastream
and i am trying it on my ip and still get a no connect.
Jas Hud
> JH> > for xp : put a copy of pkzip.exe & pkunzip.exe in your
> JH> > \windows\system & \windows\system32 dir.
> think of it as if you installing a door game from dos and not useing winzip
> (or something like that)
huh??
i'm just saying edit the path statement instead of adding more clutter to
system32\ dir by copying programs there.
Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 17:37 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > hmm, you should be able to, did you copy the link or type it in?
JH> how about you check to see if your web is up, cause i'm RD'd into datastream
JH> and i am trying it on my ip and still get a no connect.
hmmmmm, try http://75.100.189.170:81/fidonet.ssjs
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In a reply from Lord Time on 11:28 about Fidonet Questions
LT> In a reply from Jas Hud on 03:01 about Fidonet Questions
LT> JH> > JH> i do recall runemaster had a great fidonet synchronet tutorial,
LT> JH> > JH> you shou look into that.
LT> JH> > from my http://lordtime.bbsindex.com:81/fidonet.ssjs web page :
LT> JH> > By Dantin Hart of Rat's Nest BBS 9/22/05 Updated by Lord Time of Time
LT> JH> > Warp of the Future BBS 12/15/08 (on the links a mail)
LT> JH> oookay. i was mentioning runemaster's one, but i went to that link
LT> JH> and couldnt connect.
LT> hmm, you should be able to, did you copy the link or type it in?
forgot, I was only down for 30 mins to 1 hr. was putting in xp updates and
re-booting a few times and then put the bbs back online
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In a reply from Frank Reid on 04:56 about Re: Fidonet Questions
FR> > hmmmmm, try http://75.100.189.170:81/fidonet.ssjs
FR> It's most likely the non-standard HTTP port assignment on port 81.
I would have like it on the standard http port but the *.synchro.net didn't
like the dsl \ rounter on that port
FR> Proxies usually have a specific list of "safe ports" that can be used
FR> for web traffic. Someone behind a proxy (either on a corporate network
FR> at the office or even some transparent proxies on ISPs) will have an
FR> issue connecting, unless they can somewhere remove the proxy from their
FR> path.
FR>
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Jas Hud
> forgot, I was only down for 30 mins to 1 hr. was putting in xp updates and
> re-booting a few times and then put the bbs back online
ah, think it was longer than that :D
tried one day and then tried the next and got no connection. :D
Jas Hud
> I would have like it on the standard http port but the *.synchro.net didn't
> like the dsl \ rounter on that port
you mean your isp blocks port 80 or perhaps your router wasnt forwarded to
that port? perhaps your router login was on port 80?
Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 21:56 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > forgot, I was only down for 30 mins to 1 hr. was putting in xp updates
JH> > and re-booting a few times and then put the bbs back online
JH> ah, think it was longer than that :D
nope
JH> tried one day and then tried the next and got no connection. :D
hmmmmm
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Lord Time SysOp of Time Warp of the Future BBS
telnet://time.synchro.net:24
ICQ # 11868133 Yahoo : lordtime2000
AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
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Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 21:57 about Re: Fidonet Questions
JH> > I would have like it on the standard http port but the *.synchro.net
JH> didn't > like the dsl \ rounter on that port
JH> you mean your isp blocks port 80 or perhaps your router wasnt forwarded to
JH> that port?
nope
JH> perhaps your router login was on port 80?
nope, of the three ip address I have, only the *.synchro.net address didn't
like port 80 (it's the one, I try to have everything set to that address (being
it will stay updated faster, then my other two, that I have to logon to change
the ip address)
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Rob Starr
Lord Time SysOp of Time Warp of the Future BBS
telnet://time.synchro.net:24
ICQ # 11868133 Yahoo : lordtime2000
AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
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Jas Hud
> JH> > forgot, I was only down for 30 mins to 1 hr. was putting in xp update
> JH> ah, think it was longer than that :D
> nope
okay, if you are down for one day, then down for another day, that is around
24 hours and not 30 mins to 1 hour, am i right?
Jas Hud
> nope, of the three ip address I have, only the *.synchro.net address didn't
> like port 80 (it's the one, I try to have everything set to that address (be
okay, i cant understand why one would point to you, yet not work for
only one port. it just doenst make sense really. maybe rob swindell would
know, but most certainly it is something you should look into.
running your bbs and servers on non standard ports is really undesireable.
IB JOE
-> Do you mean you have three IP "static" addresses assigned by your ISP,
-> and that your BBS box uses that address natively and not a non-routable
-> address in the 192.168 range?
Nope....
Rob offers a free service to synchronet sysops that will route your bbs
trafic to your system. You'll have to map your ports in your router to
send the trafic to the right computer.
If you have are having challanges with this I can call U and walk you
through it...
Joe Schweier
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Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 06:05 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > JH> > forgot, I was only down for 30 mins to 1 hr. was putting in xp
JH> update > JH> > and re-booting a few times and then put the bbs back online
JH> > JH> ah, think it was longer than that :D
JH> > nope
JH> okay, if you are down for one day, then down for another day, that is around
JH> 24 hours and not 30 mins to 1 hour, am i right?
I have a page on my bbs web side that I update when I am down for more then
about 15 mins (didn't update it this week)
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Lord Time SysOp of Time Warp of the Future BBS
telnet://time.synchro.net:24
ICQ # 11868133 Yahoo : lordtime2000
AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
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Lord Time
In a reply from Frank Reid on 15:28 about Re: Fidonet Questions
FR> > You'll have to map your ports in your router to send the trafic to
FR> > the right computer.
FR> Was just able to reach Lord Time's system using hping... the results
FR> indicate that both port 80 and port 81 are reaching him (and using the
FR> identical path), so the problem he's seeing has nothing to do with the
FR> hostname. (The last hop, 69.128.252.62, seems to be an ISP router one
FR> hop upstream from his equipment, so he must be suppressing response on a
FR> cable/DSL gateway router or using security software.) There is
FR> considerable packet loss on the path (a saturated residential pipe, a
FR> ruthless packet-dropping bandwidth cap an oversubscribed local
FR> backbone). Regardless, port 80 is definitely arriving at his equipment.
FR> Therefore, it's something happening there that is problematic.
FR> # hping -I re0 -z -t 6 -S 75.100.189.170 -p 80
FR> HPING 75.100.189.170 (re0 75.100.189.170): S set, 40 headers + 0 data
FR> bytes
FR> TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.79.231.13
FR> name=xe-11-2-0.edge1.Washington1.Level3.net
FR> 7: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.68.17.254
FR> name=vlan99.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net
FR> 8: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.69.134.185
FR> name=ae-84-84.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net
FR> 9: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.69.132.90
FR> name=ae-3-3.ebr3.NewYork1.Level3.net
FR> 10: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.69.134.74
FR> name=ae-81-81.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net
FR> 11: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.68.16.133
FR> name=ae-33-89.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net
FR> 12: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.71.172.154
FR> name=TDS-TELECOM.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net
FR> 13: TTL 0 during transit from ip=64.50.239.45
FR> name=nycmnycor01-gi4-0-0.network.tds.net
FR> 14: TTL 0 during transit from ip=64.50.239.41
FR> name=chcgildtcor02-gi5-0-0.network.tds.net
FR> 15: TTL 0 during transit from ip=64.50.236.72
FR> name=chcgildthed02-gi1-0.network.tds.net
FR> 16: TTL 0 during transit from ip=69.128.252.62
FR> name=lactwahed51-p2-0.network.tds.net
FR> --- 75.100.189.170 hping statistic ---
FR> 40 packets tramitted, 15 packets received, 63% packet loss
FR> # hping -I re0 -z -t 6 -S 75.100.189.170 -p 81
FR> HPING 75.100.189.170 (re0 75.100.189.170): S set, 40 headers + 0 data
FR> bytes
FR> 7: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.68.17.126
FR> name=vlan79.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net
FR> 8: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.69.134.145
FR> name=ae-62-62.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net
FR> 9: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.69.132.90
FR> name=ae-3-3.ebr3.NewYork1.Level3.net
FR> 10: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.69.134.110
FR> name=ae-93-93.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net
FR> 11: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.69.134.98
FR> name=ae-63-63.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net
FR> 12: TTL 0 during transit from ip=4.71.172.154
FR> name=TDS-TELECOM.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net
FR> 13: TTL 0 during transit from ip=64.50.239.45
FR> name=nycmnycor01-gi4-0-0.network.tds.net
FR> 14: TTL 0 during transit from ip=64.50.239.41
FR> name=chcgildtcor02-gi5-0-0.network.tds.net
FR> 15: TTL 0 during transit from ip=64.50.236.72
FR> name=chcgildthed02-gi1-0.network.tds.net
FR> 16: TTL 0 during transit from ip=64.50.236.72
FR> name=chcgildthed02-gi1-0.network.tds.net
FR> --- 75.100.189.170 hping statistic ---
FR> 17 packets tramitted, 14 packets received, 18% packet loss
I wish I know when you where going to do this
FR> > Regardless, port 80 is definitely arriving at his equipment.
FR> Wait! I misread the last hops on the two traces. Note the trace on
FR> port 80 shows a device where port traffic is being re-routed to
FR> lactwahed51-p2-0.network.tds.net. That does not resolve to the same
FR> address as his home IP. Thus, his ISP is definitely inserting
FR> themselves in HTTP inbound traffic (possibly suppressing residential
FR> customers from running web servers). However, my earlier points remain
FR> the same... this trace indicates no port 80 traffic is being allowed to
FR> hit his equipment, and not anything to do with the destination hostname.
I would have change to port 80 and then back to port 81
it not the isp, before I had dsl, I did have my bbs web pages on port 80 (same
isp)
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Lord Time SysOp of Time Warp of the Future BBS
telnet://time.synchro.net:24
ICQ # 11868133 Yahoo : lordtime2000
AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
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Jas Hud
> LT> JH> > from my http://lordtime.bbsindex.com:81/fidonet.ssjs web page :
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this url is still not working.
think you need to run your update client.
C:\Documents and Settings\-oblivious->ping lordtime.bbsindex.com
Pinging lordtime.bbsindex.com [192.168.0.5] with 32 bytes of data:
Control-C
^C
C:\Documents and Settings\-oblivious->ping time.synchro.net
Pinging time.synchro.net [75.100.189.170] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 75.100.189.170: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=113
Reply from 75.100.189.170: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=113
Reply from 75.100.189.170: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=113
Reply from 75.100.189.170: bytes=32 time=91ms TTL=113
looks like your updated your client with your internal ip there rob.
Jas Hud
> JH> okay, if you are down for one day, then down for another day, that is ar
> I have a page on my bbs web side that I update when I am down for more then
> about 15 mins (didn't update it this week)
so who updates it when you have no clue that you are down? the magical fairy
that flies out your butt? :D
Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 18:31 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > LT> JH> > from my http://lordtime.bbsindex.com:81/fidonet.ssjs web
JH> page :
JH> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
JH> this url is still not working.
JH> think you need to run your update client.
JH> C:\Documents and Settings\-oblivious->ping lordtime.bbsindex.com
JH> Pinging lordtime.bbsindex.com [192.168.0.5] with 32 bytes of data:
thats is my ip address only, NOT a public address
JH> Control-C
JH> ^C
JH> C:\Documents and Settings\-oblivious->ping time.synchro.net
JH> Pinging time.synchro.net [75.100.189.170] with 32 bytes of data:
JH> Reply from 75.100.189.170: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=113
JH> Reply from 75.100.189.170: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=113
JH> Reply from 75.100.189.170: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=113
JH> Reply from 75.100.189.170: bytes=32 time=91ms TTL=113
JH> looks like your updated your client with your internal ip there rob.
thats my public ip address
http://time.synchro.net:81/
http://time.darktech.org:81/
http://timewarpfuture.dyndns.org:81/
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Lord Time SysOp of Time Warp of the Future BBS
telnet://time.synchro.net:24
ICQ # 11868133 Yahoo : lordtime2000
AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
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Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 18:19 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > JH> okay, if you are down for one day, then down for another day, that
JH> is ar > JH> 24 hours and not 30 mins to 1 hour, am i right?
JH> > I have a page on my bbs web side that I update when I am down for more
JH> > then about 15 mins (didn't update it this week)
JH> so who updates it when you have no clue that you are down? the magical fairy
JH> that flies out your butt? :D
when I come back online
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Lord Time SysOp of Time Warp of the Future BBS
telnet://time.synchro.net:24
ICQ # 11868133 Yahoo : lordtime2000
AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
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Lord Time
In a reply from Frank Reid on 20:39 about Re: Fidonet Questions
FR> > I wish I know when you where going to do this
FR> No harm intended or done. The connection seemed no different to your
FR> system than a regular initial web connection.
FR> > it not the isp, before I had dsl, I did have my bbs web pages on port
FR> 80
FR> > (same isp)
FR> The proof is in the data. Traffic on destination port 80 is being
FR> redirected to another device other than your home. The hostname
FR> (lactwahed51-p2-0.network.tds.net) may indicate some perimeter device or
FR> inbound proxy, it would seem.
FR>
I just look it up, to the dsl \ rounter (Actiontec -
http://www.actiontec.com/products/product.php?pid=75 )
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Lord Time SysOp of Time Warp of the Future BBS
telnet://time.synchro.net:24
ICQ # 11868133 Yahoo : lordtime2000
AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
þ CMPQwk 1.42 16554 þ May the Farce be with you!
IB JOE
-> @VIA: BBSDOORS
-> @MSGID: <0A4BD1A549BD4A1581A80687B2746DE0@FCReidPC>
-> @REPLY: <49959189....@vert.synchro.net>
-> @TZ: fffffed4
-> > Rob offers a free service to synchronet sysops that will route
-> > your bbs trafic to your system. You'll have to map your ports
-> > in your router to send the trafic to the right computer.
-> >
-> > If you have are having challanges with this I can call U and
-> > walk you through it...
-> Believe we're talking apples and oranges, Joe. I'm familiar with Rob's
-> DDNS-like service for hosts under the SYNCHRO.NET domain in support of
-> systems within DOVE... a great service provided for everyone in the
-> community. However, Lord Time mentioned that this hostname under that
-> domain (TIME.SYNCHRO.NET) was the reason his system (router, computer,
-> proxy, something...still unsure) is unable to receive HTTP traffic on
-> standard HTTP port 80/TCP.
K...
I should have looked a little closer to that... :)
Joe Schweier
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Jas Hud
> JH> Pinging lordtime.bbsindex.com [192.168.0.5] with 32 bytes of data:
> thats my public ip address http://time.synchro.net:81/
> http://time.darktech.org:81/ http://timewarpfuture.dyndns.org:81/
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rob, do you understand that you posted that URL, and i said it didnt work.
you said it did work, and posted other URLS.
i pointed out that your ip is not updated correctly to THAT url.
it was your internal ip.
I GET THAT YOUR OTHER DOMAINS WORK!
i was simply pointing out that you made a mistake with the original url you
posted; it needs the ip address to be updated correctly.
Lord Time
In a reply from Jas Hud on 11:40 about Fidonet Questions
JH> > JH> Pinging lordtime.bbsindex.com [192.168.0.5] with 32 bytes of data:
JH> > thats my public ip address http://time.synchro.net:81/
JH> > http://time.darktech.org:81/ http://timewarpfuture.dyndns.org:81/
JH> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JH> !! !
JH> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JH> ! !
JH> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JH> ! !
JH> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JH> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JH> Rob, do you understand that you posted that URL, and i said it didnt work.
JH> you said it did work, and posted other URLS.
hmm, I thought I posted the sbbs one
JH> i pointed out that your ip is not updated correctly to THAT url.
JH> it was your internal ip.
that one is set to my local network ( lordtime.bbsindex.com )
JH> I GET THAT YOUR OTHER DOMAINS WORK!
JH> i was simply pointing out that you made a mistake with the original url you
JH> posted; it needs the ip address to be updated correctly.
the other ones are right
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Lord Time SysOp of Time Warp of the Future BBS
telnet://time.synchro.net:24
ICQ # 11868133 Yahoo : lordtime2000
AIM : LordTime20000 MSN : Lord Time
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Jas Hud
> JH> i pointed out that your ip is not updated correctly to THAT url. it
> JH> was your internal ip.
> that one is set to my local network ( lordtime.bbsindex.com )
yeah, localhost aint good enough for you?
> the other ones are right
YES! you keep talking about the other ones!
/sigh
you're weird.
Carol Shenkenberger
> > If you're just doing echomail and zone 1 netmail, you only need 2 entries
> > for your uplink and one for everyone else (e.g. 1:ALL).
>
Question, will the doing away with zonegates affect any internal issues there
with the statements? This is happening the next week or so and has in some
zones already.
xxcarol
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Digital Man
Re: Fidonet Questions
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Digital Man on Fri Mar 13 2009 01:40 pm
>
> > > If you're just doing echomail and zone 1 netmail, you only need 2
> > > entries for your uplink and one for everyone else (e.g. 1:ALL).
> >
>
> Question, will the doing away with zonegates affect any internal issues
> there with the statements? This is happening the next week or so and has
> in some zones already.
Nope.
digital man
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Carol Shenkenberger
> > Question, will the doing away with zonegates affect any internal issues
> > there with the statements? This is happening the next week or so and has
> > in some zones already.
>
> Nope.
Ok good! Just checking.
xxcarol
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Jame
Carol,
> Question, will the doing away with zonegates affect any internal issues
> there with the statements? This is happening the next week or so and has
> in some zones already.
Ah? Has that been discussed anywhere in particular? Hadn't heard about
it...
Jame
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Joe Delahaye
Re: Re: Fidonet Questions
By: Jame to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Mar 14 2009 15:39:00
> Ah? Has that been discussed anywhere in particular? Hadn't heard
> about it...
Indeed, In Region 1 *C echoes and of course the various hubs were asked about
it, including the Zonegates
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Carol Shenkenberger
> > Question, will the doing away with zonegates affect any internal issues
> > there with the statements? This is happening the next week or so and has
> > in some zones already.
>
> Ah? Has that been discussed anywhere in particular? Hadn't heard abo
Not sure where else. Sorry, but my info came from a restricted ZCC echo.
It's probably been mentioned elsewhere?
xxcarol
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Jame
>
> > > Question, will the doing away with zonegates affect any internal
> > > issues there with the statements? This is happening the next week or
> > > so and has in some zones already.
> >
> Ah? Has that been discussed anywhere in particular? Hadn't heard
abo it...
> Not sure where else. Sorry, but my info came from a restricted ZCC echo.
Certainly not one I have access to...<g>
> It's probably been mentioned elsewhere?
Haven't seen anything, but I should likley check the echos I'm
getting...
Jame
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Jame
> Re: Re: Fidonet Questions
By: Jame to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Mar 14 2009 15:39:00
> > Ah? Has that been discussed anywhere in particular? Hadn't heard
> > about it...
>
> Indeed, In Region 1 *C echoes and of course the various hubs were asked
> about it, including the Zonegates
Hmm... Looks like i need to check some echos...
Jame
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