Door Registration

[Geoffrey Sammons]

Before I register any door myself, I am at least trying to track the author to register the door(s). Anyone else interested, this is my finding:

Ambrosia: Made contact, but no response> (There is a Sr and a JR. Sr may be deceased and Jr may not want to mess with it<--My assumption)

Yankee Trader: No Response

Melee: Contact made, and got a response. Author stated that he doubts he has the code or key generator anymore for the door. Use hex editor and remove unregistered. Far as he recalls, game is not handicapped.

BRE,FE,FH and so forth... Active registrations: http://www.johndaileysoftware.com/

TradeWars: I'm confused.. is this a door game anymore or just a TW2k Server? Server is actively taking registrations: http://www.eisonline.com/

Legend of The Red Dragon: lord legacy stated he has ability to register. LEGAL DISCLAIMER: If he wants to be safe, all he has to do is accept the fee through Paypal as his paper trail. If the 'vendor' ever comes after him, he just prints off the invoice and sends a check (minus Paypal fees). Fact is, the amount involved per registration Vs time to fill registration orders for a 'company' that abandoned its software and customers, he could easily argue compensation for time involved taking care of THEIR customers.

Yakees & Rednecks aka Rude Dog: MIA..

Exitilus: My findings leads me to believe he is deceased (I could be wrong).


Feel free to add/correct any entry. I strongly feel if the authors can be found, we have an obligation to make an effort to register.

Thanks

[MRO]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Door Registration
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Apr 11 2018 10:53 am

> Ambrosia: Made contact, but no response> (There is a Sr and a JR. Sr may be
> deceased and Jr may not want to mess with it<--My assumption)

he's still alive. i talked to him like 5 years ago. he is just MIA and kinda
flighty.

> TradeWars: I'm confused.. is this a door game anymore or just a TW2k
> Server? Server is actively taking registrations: http://www.eisonline.com/

it's a server now. i'm not sure if he gives registrations for the bbs game
still.

> Legend of The Red Dragon: lord legacy stated he has ability to register.

lordlegacy is the former developer and he doesnt handle registrations.
you need to talk to gameport where they will probably ignore you.

> LEGAL DISCLAIMER: If he wants to be safe, all he has to do is accept the
> fee through Paypal as his paper trail. If the 'vendor' ever comes after
> him, he just prints off the invoice and sends a check (minus Paypal fees).
> Fact is, the amount involved per registration Vs time to fill registration
> orders for a 'company' that abandoned its software and customers, he could
> easily argue compensation for time involved taking care of THEIR customers.

he signed a legal contract and shouldnt even fuck around with that.
he is done working with gameport.

> Exitilus: My findings leads me to believe he is deceased (I could be wrong).
> Feel free to add/correct any entry. I strongly feel if the authors can be
> found, we have an obligation to make an effort to register.
> Thanks

exitilus went through many flighty developers. they just moved on from bbsing.
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[Mojo]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Door Registration
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Apr 11 2018 10:53 am

You can get registrations for some games at bbsfiles.com. I have registered
some there. Plus some of them there are free. You should check that out.


Mojo

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[Android8675]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Door Registration
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Apr 11 2018 10:53 am

GS> Before I register any door myself, I am at least trying to track the
GS> author to register the door(s). Anyone else interested, this is my

I find it easier to just rlogin link my doors to someone else who has the game
registered like DoorParty, CoA or BBSLinks. Personally I find these old DOS
Doors boring as sin, but with a few exceptions. The more interesting games I
find are the ones that have been converted to .js for synchronet.

I'd give anything for someone to pick up and start expanding on Solomora's War
or TW2.js
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[Marisag]

To: Mojo
Re: Door Registration
By: Mojo to Geoffrey Sammons on Thu Apr 12 2018 09:14:11

> You can get registrations for some games at bbsfiles.com. I have registered
> some there. Plus some of them there are free. You should check that out.

I also have a lot of doors that work under synchronet at
https://synchronetbbs.org...

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: MRO
-=> MRO wrote to Geoffrey Sammons on 04-11-18 19:55 <=-

> TradeWars: I'm confused.. is this a door game anymore or just a TW2k
> Server? Server is actively taking registrations: http://www.eisonline.com/

MR> it's a server now. i'm not sure if he gives registrations for the bbs
MR> game still.

> Legend of The Red Dragon: lord legacy stated he has ability to register.

MR> lordlegacy is the former developer and he doesnt handle registrations.
MR> you need to talk to gameport where they will probably ignore you.

If you contact Laura Waldon <llwaldon at mseaudio.com> she should be able to
help you. She was extremely prompt at fulfilling my request for a registration
key.


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[MRO]

To: Mojo
Re: Door Registration

By: Mojo to Geoffrey Sammons on Thu Apr 12 2018 09:14 am

> Re: Door Registration
> By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Apr 11 2018 10:53 am

> You can get registrations for some games at bbsfiles.com. I have registered
> some there. Plus some of them there are free. You should check that out.

he got cracks/code gens from people in the bbs community and sells 'vanity
registrations' so please dont give him any money

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[MRO]

To: Android8675
Re: Door Registration
By: Android8675 to Geoffrey Sammons on Thu Apr 12 2018 08:10 am

> DOS Doors boring as sin, but with a few exceptions. The more interesting
> games I find are the ones that have been converted to .js for synchronet.

i tried to play those .js games but i just find them horrible.

scrabble is a fun game to play if you can get some people to play along with
you.

lord was fun back in the day with a lot of real people playing.
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[MRO]

To: Bill McGarrity
Re: Door Registration
By: Bill McGarrity to MRO on Thu Apr 12 2018 11:55 am

> MR> lordlegacy is the former developer and he doesnt handle registrations.
> MR> you need to talk to gameport where they will probably ignore you.

> If you contact Laura Waldon <llwaldon at mseaudio.com> she should be able to
> help you. She was extremely prompt at fulfilling my request for a
> registration key.

that's a new one.

is this another side project of the multiserv guy who owns gameport and all
those odd websites?

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: MRO
Re: Door Registration
By: MRO to Bill McGarrity on Thu Apr 12 2018 17:00:35

MR> Re: Door Registration By: Bill McGarrity to MRO on Thu Apr 12 2018
MR> 11:55 am
MR> > If you contact Laura Waldon <llwaldon at mseaudio.com> she should be
able
MR> > to help you. She was extremely prompt at fulfilling my request for a
MR> > registration key.


MR> that's a new one.

MR> is this another side project of the multiserv guy who owns gameport
MR> and all those odd websites?

I tracked down Gameport's # and called them directly. It wasn't easy.
Finally spoke to her and poof, next day I had the key in my email.

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[Mojo]

To: MRO
Re: Door Registration

By: MRO to Mojo on Thu Apr 12 2018 04:56 pm

MR> he got cracks/code gens from people in the bbs community and sells 'vanity
MR> registrations' so please dont give him any money


Well how is someone to get registrations if they do not get them from him?

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[Mojo]

To: Bill McGarrity
Re: Door Registration
By: Bill McGarrity to MRO on Thu Apr 12 2018 06:30 pm

BM> I tracked down Gameport's # and called them directly. It wasn't easy.
BM> Finally spoke to her and poof, next day I had the key in my email.


I calnce and asked about getting a registration key from them and they told me
to print out the form and send a check to them. I did not like the way they
acted when I talked to them plus they made it sound like it was a bother to
even have to answer the phone and talk to me.


I have heard form some that have sent money and never got a code in return and
was out the money.


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[Vk3jed]

To: MRO
-=> MRO wrote to Mojo <=-

MR> he got cracks/code gens from people in the bbs community and sells
MR> 'vanity registrations' so please dont give him any money

I'm wary of dealing with anyone other than the original author or current
copyright holder of the software.


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[Geoffrey Sammons]

I am the same on that point. I will not give a cent for a fake registration. If an author is MIA, then I will register it myself and if author is later found, I will register the door properly. Don't think I have a halo over my head.. back in the day (more years I want to admit to), I always did the 'free' registrations. Older/wiser, I appreciate the work, time, and offering the fruit of their labor to the community.

Gameport, I sent them emails to every department they have with no reply. I have no confidence in them honoring their registration process. We are in the year 2018 and they are still in the method of mail in payment? It is a shame for Ambroshia, I would register that game in a second. My son loves that game. If the author ever updates his site and makes it known that he is active again, I will legally register Ambroshia.

Thanks for responses,

teckkev

[KK4QBN]

To: Mojo
Re: Door Registration

By: Mojo to MRO on Thu Apr 12 2018 20:14:21

MR>> he got cracks/code gens from people in the bbs community and sells

MR>> 'vanity registrations' so please dont give him any money


Mo> Well how is someone to get registrations if they do not get them from him?

Think I would crack, or use a code generator on one myself then to pay someone
who does'nt own the rights or is'nt the author.

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: Mojo
-=> Mojo wrote to Bill McGarrity on 04-12-18 20:18 <=-

Mo> Re: Door Registration
Mo> By: Bill McGarrity to MRO on Thu Apr 12 2018 06:30 pm

BM> I tracked down Gameport's # and called them directly. It wasn't easy.
BM> Finally spoke to her and poof, next day I had the key in my email.

Mo> I calnce and asked about getting a registration key from them and they
Mo> told me to print out the form and send a check to them. I did not like
Mo> the way they acted when I talked to them plus they made it sound like
Mo> it was a bother to even have to answer the phone and talk to me.

Gameport isn't their main business so they're a little twisted over a $15
registration fee. If it was $1,500, I'm sure they would have presented a
different attitude.


Mo> I have heard form some that have sent money and never got a code in
Mo> return and was out the money.

Send them the check, make it attn: to the woman and write a note inside
explaining the situation. I'm sure if she gets it things will run smoothly.
Remeber to fill the form out EXACTLY as you want it on the key. They screwed
mine up the first time.

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[Mojo]

To: KK4QBN
Re: Door Registration
By: KK4QBN to Mojo on Fri Apr 13 2018 09:17 am

Mo>> Well how is someone to get registrations if they do not get them

Mo>> from him?

KK> Think I would crack, or use a code generator on one myself then to pay
KK> someone who does'nt own the rights or is'nt the author.

Well that is fine but what about games that there is no crack or code generator
available. I haver a bunch of games in my unregistered area that as far as I
know there is no way to get them registered anymore. It would be really nice if
there was still a way to be able to get all games registered.


Mojo

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[Geoffrey Sammons]

Mines of Gorr, Boxcars and others: FREEWARE!
https://jibbensoftware.com/bbs-door-games.cfm

[Lockery]

> I'd give anything for someone to pick up and start expanding on Solomora's War
> or TW2.js

Solomora's War is not a door game I can find. Where is a link to it?

[echicken]

To: Lockery
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Lockery to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Apr 13 2018 10:43:58

Lo> Solomora's War is not a door game I can find. Where is a link to it?

Deuce ported Solomoriah's War to javascript. That version can be found in the
Synchronet CVS repository:

http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xtrn/war/

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: echicken
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: echicken to Lockery on Fri Apr 13 2018 13:54:28

Hiya echicken...

ec> Deuce ported Solomoriah's War to javascript. That version can be
ec> found in the Synchronet CVS repository:

ec> http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xtrn/war/

Had an issue with running the game... got the following:

Error Loading Map (Open Error)

I downloaded the tarbull and installed in the /xtrn/war folder.

I am assuming there is an issue in the warcommon.js file where it's not
creating a /map.

Oh Deuce... :)

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[Daryl Stout]

To: MOJO
M>I have heard form some that have sent money and never got a code in return an
M>was out the money.

Been there, done that, got the wardrobe (never mind the T-shirt).

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[KK4QBN]

To: Mojo
Re: Door Registration

By: Mojo to KK4QBN on Fri Apr 13 2018 10:30:19

KK>> Think I would crack, or use a code generator on one myself then to

KK>> pay someone who does'nt own the rights or is'nt the author.

Mo> Well that is fine but what about games that there is no crack or code
Mo> generator available. I haver a bunch of games in my unregistered area that
Mo> as far as I know there is no way to get them registered anymore. It would
Mo> be really nice if there was still a way to be able to get all games
Mo> registered.

I'm in the same boat. it sucks, but whattya do unless you have the talent for
that kinda thing. I know I don't :)

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[echicken]

To: Bill McGarrity
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Bill McGarrity to echicken on Fri Apr 13 2018 18:24:38

ec>> http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xtrn/war/

BM> Had an issue with running the game... got the following:

BM> Error Loading Map (Open Error)

Ah, I thought he'd left it in a working state. Maybe there's some
(undocumented?) initial setup step that's required. I don't think I've tried
running it here.

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[Geoffrey Sammons]

I found over dozen generators on 1 filelist for doors and igm's.. it takes time and google :)

[Mojo]

To: KK4QBN
Re: Door Registration

By: KK4QBN to Mojo on Fri Apr 13 2018 08:12 pm

KK> I'm in the same boat. it sucks, but whattya do unless you have the talent
KK> for that kinda thing. I know I don't :)

I hear ya as I am not able to do any of that myself as there is no talent here
for that either.


So I guess it comes down to the fact that we are SOL...

Mojo

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: echicken
-=> echicken wrote to Bill McGarrity on 04-13-18 20:33 <=-

ec> Re: Re: Door Registration
ec> By: Bill McGarrity to echicken on Fri Apr 13 2018 18:24:38

ec>> http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xtrn/war/

BM> Had an issue with running the game... got the following:

BM> Error Loading Map (Open Error)

ec> Ah, I thought he'd left it in a working state. Maybe there's some
ec> (undocumented?) initial setup step that's required. I don't think I've
ec> tried running it here.

Will you let him know or shall I contact him?

Thanks..

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[echicken]

To: Bill McGarrity
Re: Door Registration

By: Bill McGarrity to echicken on Sat Apr 14 2018 00:47:00

BM> Will you let him know or shall I contact him?

I'll bug him about it next time we chat.

I have a suspicion that if you copy the contents of one of the 'worlds/'
subdirectories into the game's main directory, it may start working (or
progress to a new error). Eg. copy 'xtrn/war/worlds/solomoriah/*' into
the 'xtrn/war/' directory.

(I have no idea how he wanted to manage loading these different worlds/maps, so
I won't monkey around with it.)

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: echicken
Re: Door Registration
By: echicken to Bill McGarrity on Sat Apr 14 2018 01:25:11

Hiya echicken...

ec> I'll bug him about it next time we chat.

ec> I have a suspicion that if you copy the contents of one of the
ec> 'worlds/' subdirectories into the game's main directory, it may start
ec> working (or progress to a new error). Eg. copy
ec> 'xtrn/war/worlds/solomoriah/*' into the 'xtrn/war/' directory.

ec> (I have no idea how he wanted to manage loading these different
ec> worlds/maps, so I won't monkey around with it.)

Sounds good. I'll sit back ans wait.

Appreciate it...

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[Tony Langdon]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
-=> Geoffrey Sammons wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-

GS> I am the same on that point. I will not give a cent for a fake
GS> registration. If an author is MIA, then I will register it myself and
GS> if author is later found, I will register the door properly. Don't

Yes, that's reasonable.

GS> think I have a halo over my head.. back in the day (more years I want
GS> to admit to), I always did the 'free' registrations. Older/wiser, I
GS> appreciate the work, time, and offering the fruit of their labor to the

I think mny of us are in the same boat. Been there, done that, and prefer to
play by the rules these days, where possible. But I won't be propping up
someone else's scam.

GS> community. Gameport, I sent them emails to every department they have
GS> with no reply. I have no confidence in them honoring their
GS> registration process. We are in the year 2018 and they are still in
GS> the method of mail in payment? It is a shame for Ambroshia, I would
GS> register that game in a second. My son loves that game.
GS> If the author ever updates his site and makes it known that he is
GS> active again, I will legally register Ambroshia.

That's very poor customer service. These days, it's dead easy to setup a
business Paypal and use them to handle online payments. I have one myself, and
could easily accept payments if I was actually selling online.


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[Tony Langdon]

To: KK4QBN
-=> KK4QBN wrote to Mojo <=-

KK> Think I would crack, or use a code generator on one myself then to pay
KK> someone who does'nt own the rights or is'nt the author.

At least you're not scamming someone else that way (or getting scammed).
Obviously, registering with the author is the best option, but not always
possible.


... Chuck Norris can divide by zero.

[Tony Langdon]

To: KK4QBN
-=> KK4QBN wrote to Mojo <=-

KK> I'm in the same boat. it sucks, but whattya do unless you have the

KK> talent for that kinda thing. I know I don't :)

There was a time when I was able to step through DOS executables in DEBUG and
manually patch out registration and validation routines, but those days are
long gone now.


... Please no deja vu; I don't want to go through that again.

[KK4QBN]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Apr 13 2018 17:46:10

GS> I found over dozen generators on 1 filelist for doors and igm's.. it takes
GS> time and google :)

Oh, I have tons also, as I'm sure many other people do, but some of the omes
you really want just areant there.

[Marisag]

To: KK4QBN
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: KK4QBN to Geoffrey Sammons on Sat Apr 14 2018 07:56:23

> GS> I found over dozen generators on 1 filelist for doors and igm's.. it

> GS> takes time and google :)

> Oh, I have tons also, as I'm sure many other people do, but some of the omes
> you really want just areant there.

Anyway i can get those? Would like to add them to my download area at
https://synchronetbbs.org...

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[Tony Langdon]

To: Mojo
-=> Mojo wrote to KK4QBN <=-

Mo> So I guess it comes down to the fact that we are SOL...

Sadly, that's often what happens with abandonware. :(


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[Dumas Walker]

To: ECHICKEN

> I have a suspicion that if you copy the contents of one of the 'worlds/'
> subdirectories into the game's main directory, it may start working (or
> progress to a new error). Eg. copy 'xtrn/war/worlds/solomoriah/*' into
> the 'xtrn/war/' directory.

Rats, if you all had asked this question about a month ago, I could have
told you what I did for certain. As is, I am pretty sure that is what I
did to get mine to work. :)

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[Dumas Walker]

To: TONY LANGDON

>There was a time when I was able to step through DOS executables in DEBUG and
>manually patch out registration and validation routines, but those days are
>long gone now.

I used to know how to do a few minor things in DEBUG. Wish I knew how to
do this. I have a program that actually is registered but, for some
reason, in ~ 2015 the registered features quit working. It still reports
the copy as "registered," it just no longer allows any of the features.

Would be nice to get it working fully again. I always joke to myself that
it was not Y2K compliant but took 15 years for the bug to show up. :)

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To: Dumas Walker
-=> Dumas Walker wrote to ECHICKEN on 04-14-18 14:09 <=-

> I have a suspicion that if you copy the contents of one of the 'worlds/'
> subdirectories into the game's main directory, it may start working (or
> progress to a new error). Eg. copy 'xtrn/war/worlds/solomoriah/*' into
> the 'xtrn/war/' directory.

DW> Rats, if you all had asked this question about a month ago, I could
DW> have told you what I did for certain. As is, I am pretty sure that is
DW> what I did to get mine to work. :)

I already did... have to copy the contents of the actual 'worlds' into the main
directory. Although there are 5 different worlds, I only copied one which
consisted of three files. I blame myself for not fully reading the docs. Oh
well... live and learn.

Would be nice though of the code could be changed slightly to give you the
option of playing what world you'd like... :)

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: echicken
-=> echicken wrote to Bill McGarrity on 04-14-18 01:25 <=-

ec> Re: Door Registration
ec> By: Bill McGarrity to echicken on Sat Apr 14 2018 00:47:00

BM> Will you let him know or shall I contact him?

ec> I'll bug him about it next time we chat.

ec> I have a suspicion that if you copy the contents of one of the
ec> 'worlds/' subdirectories into the game's main directory, it may start
ec> working (or progress to a new error). Eg. copy
ec> 'xtrn/war/worlds/solomoriah/*' into the 'xtrn/war/' directory.

ec> (I have no idea how he wanted to manage loading these different
ec> worlds/maps, so I won't monkey around with it.)

Nevermind....

If I would have read the docs properly I wouldn't have had an issue. All taken
care of.

Thanks for your help...

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[echicken]

To: Bill McGarrity
Re: Door Registration

By: Bill McGarrity to echicken on Sat Apr 14 2018 18:59:00

BM> If I would have read the docs properly I wouldn't have had an issue. All
BM> taken care of.

I only skimmed the docs and nothing jumped out at me, so that makes two of us.
I just made my guess after taking a quick peek at the scripts. Glad it's
working for you. I think it would be good if the 'world' were configurable (in
an ini file or something) and just got loaded from its own directory.

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[KenDB3]

To: Dumas Walker

> >There was a time when I was able to step through DOS executables in DEBUG
> and >manually patch out registration and validation routines, but those days
> are >long gone now.

> I used to know how to do a few minor things in DEBUG. Wish I knew how to
> do this. I have a program that actually is registered but, for some
> reason, in ~ 2015 the registered features quit working. It still reports
> the copy as "registered," it just no longer allows any of the features.

> Would be nice to get it working fully again. I always joke to myself that
> it was not Y2K compliant but took 15 years for the bug to show up. :)

Speaking of Door Registrations, I spent a crazy amount of time trying to find a
crack for one game from Sean Price's Rude Dog Software line, called Vampire
Knights; he also made Dragon's Claw. There was a crack for Dragon's Claw, but I
never came across one for Vampire Knights (last version I found was 2.9).

Does anyone happen to have a crack for Vampire Knights (or some other method of
getting it registered)? It's not a big deal, just one of those things where
once you invest a bunch of time it is kind of a bummer when you come up empty
handed.

~KenDB3

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[Paul Quinn]

To: Dumas Walker
Hi! Dumas,

On 14 Apr 18 14:11, you wrote to TONY LANGDON:

DW> I used to know how to do a few minor things in DEBUG. Wish I knew how
DW> to do this. I have a program that actually is registered but, for
DW> some reason, in ~ 2015 the registered features quit working. It still
DW> reports the copy as "registered," it just no longer allows any of the
DW> features.

Simple. Just run it in a virtual environment of some sort, where the date is
_always_ 2005, say.

Cheers,
Paul.

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[Mojo]

To: Tony Langdon
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Tony Langdon to Mojo on Sun Apr 15 2018 07:42 am

Mo>> So I guess it comes down to the fact that we are SOL...

TL> Sadly, that's often what happens with abandonware. :(


I have seen some cracks out there for somne games. But most of the ones I have
lloked at are for older versions of some of the games that are no longer
available and won't work with newer versions fo the game.

Mojo

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[Geoffrey Sammons]

It's late here.. I'll install Vamp tomorrow and see if the 'rude dog' registration app works on it. I know it works with Yankees & Rednecks. If it does, I'll see if I can find the source where I got it.

teckkev

[MRO]

To: Bill McGarrity
Re: Door Registration

By: Bill McGarrity to MRO on Thu Apr 12 2018 06:30 pm

> I tracked down Gameport's # and called them directly. It wasn't easy.
> Finally spoke to her and poof, next day I had the key in my email.


I knew a guy who called multiserv and tried to get his registration code.
first nobody knew what he was talking about and then they put him on hold and
he was put throught to some guy and then he got his code.

i think this website you mentioned is another of the gameport owner's side
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[MRO]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Apr 13 2018 04:34 am

> I am the same on that point. I will not give a cent for a fake

> registration. If an author is MIA, then I will register it myself and if
> author is later found, I will register the door properly. Don't think I
> have a halo over my head.. back in the day (more years I want to admit to),
> I always did the 'free' registrations. Older/wiser, I appreciate the work,
> time, and offering the fruit of their labor to the community.
> Gameport, I sent them emails to every department they have with no reply. I


with most doorgames you arent getting much if they ARE registered.

i would not support gameport because of how they have treated people and the
developer.

it's better for us to just create a lord clone.

> the year 2018 and they are still in the method of mail in payment? It is a
> shame for Ambroshia, I would register that game in a second. My son loves
> that game. If the author ever updates his site and makes it known that he
> is active again, I will legally register Ambroshia.
> Thanks for responses,


i consider ambroshia abandonware so i will give you the datastream registration
code if you want it.
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[MRO]

To: Mojo
Re: Door Registration

By: Mojo to MRO on Thu Apr 12 2018 08:14 pm

> Re: Door Registration
> By: MRO to Mojo on Thu Apr 12 2018 04:56 pm

> MR> he got cracks/code gens from people in the bbs community and sells
> MR> 'vanity registrations' so please dont give him any money


> Well how is someone to get registrations if they do not get them from him?


you can just download them from the bbsreg archives, probably.
do you think it's right for him to charge money for cracks and keygens he got
from the pcmicro guy and other people? they were going to pool their keygens
and then bbsfiles doug never reciprocated.
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[MRO]

To: Bill McGarrity
Re: Door Registration

By: Bill McGarrity to Mojo on Fri Apr 13 2018 08:18 am

> Send them the check, make it attn: to the woman and write a note inside
> explaining the situation. I'm sure if she gets it things will run smoothly.
> Remeber to fill the form out EXACTLY as you want it on the key. They screwed
> mine up the first time.



i wouldnt even send a check if i was this guy.
this woman you mentioned is someone i never heard of. i always dealt with
shannon.

i would just stay away from gameport and registering lord.
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[MRO]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Re: Door Registration

By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Apr 13 2018 09:02 am

> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

> Mines of Gorr, Boxcars and others: FREEWARE!
> https://jibbensoftware.com/bbs-door-games.cfm



thanks for this

[MRO]

To: KenDB3
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: KenDB3 to Dumas Walker on Sat Apr 14 2018 08:05 pm

> Vampire Knights; he also made Dragon's Claw. There was a crack for Dragon's
> Claw, but I never came across one for Vampire Knights (last version I found
> was 2.9).

> Does anyone happen to have a crack for Vampire Knights (or some other method
> of getting it registered)? It's not a big deal, just one of those things

did you check out bbs-reg? he has some registrations for vampire games

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: MRO
-=> MRO wrote to Bill McGarrity on 04-14-18 22:01 <=-

MR> Re: Door Registration
MR> By: Bill McGarrity to MRO on Thu Apr 12 2018 06:30 pm

> I tracked down Gameport's # and called them directly. It wasn't easy.
> Finally spoke to her and poof, next day I had the key in my email.

MR> I knew a guy who called multiserv and tried to get his registration
MR> code. first nobody knew what he was talking about and then they put him
MR> on hold and he was put throught to some guy and then he got his code.

MR> i think this website you mentioned is another of the gameport owner's
MR> side projects.

Yes, it was and the woman I named was the one I spoe to on the phone. She said
fill in the form, send it attn to her and she'd take care of it. As I said,
for $15 they're not going to go crazy.

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: echicken
-=> echicken wrote to Bill McGarrity on 04-14-18 20:08 <=-

ec> Re: Door Registration
ec> By: Bill McGarrity to echicken on Sat Apr 14 2018 18:59:00

BM> If I would have read the docs properly I wouldn't have had an issue. All
BM> taken care of.

ec> I only skimmed the docs and nothing jumped out at me, so that makes two
ec> of us. I just made my guess after taking a quick peek at the scripts.
ec> Glad it's working for you. I think it would be good if the 'world'
ec> were configurable (in an ini file or something) and just got loaded
ec> from its own directory.

Agreed... but one step further to let the player choose the world.. :)

I can see his point though. This way you can actually have 5 different games as
long as you setup your external programs correctly.

[Tony Langdon]

To: Dumas Walker
-=> Dumas Walker wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

>There was a time when I was able to step through DOS executables in DEBUG and
>manually patch out registration and validation routines, but those days are
>long gone now.

DW> I used to know how to do a few minor things in DEBUG. Wish I knew how
DW> to do this. I have a program that actually is registered but, for some
DW> reason, in ~ 2015 the registered features quit working. It still
DW> reports the copy as "registered," it just no longer allows any of the
DW> features.

That's a pain,looks like some really weird time or OS dependent bug. :/ The
process is time consuming, and needs a good understanding of 8086 assembly
language (if playing with 16 bit DOS executables). Also helpful is knowledge
of common DOS and BIOS interrupts (where many function calls are handled), such
as INT 13h (BIOS disk IIRC) and int 21h ((DOS function calls). I have no
knowledge of Windoes internals or 32/64 bit assembley language, so no chance of
doing the same for Windows binaries.

DW> Would be nice to get it working fully again. I always joke to myself
DW> that it was not Y2K compliant but took 15 years for the bug to show up.
DW> :)

That mightn't be as silly as it sounds, wonder what happens if you turn back
the system clock temporarily. ;)


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[Tony Langdon]

To: Mojo
-=> Mojo wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Mo> I have seen some cracks out there for somne games. But most of the ones
Mo> I have lloked at are for older versions of some of the games that are
Mo> no longer available and won't work with newer versions fo the game.

Bummer, but yes, cracks are normally version specific.


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[Daryl Stout]

To: BILL MCGARRITY
Bill,

BM>If I would have read the docs properly I wouldn't have had an issue. All ta
BM>care of.

Real Sysops read the docs -- or at least, skim them. <G>

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[Mojo]

To: MRO
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: MRO to KenDB3 on Sat Apr 14 2018 10:15 pm

MR> did you check out bbs-reg? he has some registrations for vampire games


What is the address to this place?


I have never heard of it but would like to check it out.

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[Mojo]

To: Tony Langdon
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Tony Langdon to Mojo on Sun Apr 15 2018 05:23 pm

TL> Bummer, but yes, cracks are normally version specific.


Yeah, I have found that. But trying to find the correct version to match the
crack is hard to do since so much of it is gone and no where to be found.

Mojo

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: Daryl Stout
-=> Daryl Stout wrote to BILL MCGARRITY on 04-15-18 07:47 <=-

BM>If I would have read the docs properly I wouldn't have had an issue. All

a
BM>care of.

DS> Real Sysops read the docs -- or at least, skim them. <G>

Skimming was the problem.... miss one sentence and poof... you're screwed!!!

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[Daryl Stout]

To: BILL MCGARRITY
Bill,

BM> DS> Real Sysops read the docs -- or at least, skim them. <G>

BM>Skimming was the problem.... miss one sentence and poof... you're screwed!!!

I've also learned that when you prepare a file, document, or even a
bulletin for the BBS, you need A SECOND SET OF EYES...because if you
miss something in the file, the program won't run, or it'll have
something in there you didn't want!!

You can look at it numerous times, and never see it...but the second
set of eyes can spot the error right off the bat!!

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[Dumas Walker]

To: BILL MCGARRITY

> Would be nice though of the code could be changed slightly to give you the
> option of playing what world you'd like... :)

I thought that also... maybe one could set it up as separate door entries
for each world? That'd take three separate insallations of the door code,
though.

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[Dumas Walker]

To: TONY LANGDON

> That mightn't be as silly as it sounds, wonder what happens if you turn back
> the system clock temporarily. ;)

I need to try that and see. :)

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[Dumas Walker]

To: PAUL QUINN

> Simple. Just run it in a virtual environment of some sort, where the date is
> _always_ 2005, say.

I thought about that but, as it is a BBS sysop message reader, it'd sure
make the messages look real old. :)

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[Tony Langdon]

To: Mojo
-=> Mojo wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

TL> Bummer, but yes, cracks are normally version specific.

Mo> Yeah, I have found that. But trying to find the correct version to
Mo> match the crack is hard to do since so much of it is gone and no where
Mo> to be found.

Yep, can be tough, but the specificity is because you're patching a binary,
which requires hex values to be changed in specific locations, which change
from build to build.


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[Bill McGarrity]

To: Dumas Walker
-=> Dumas Walker wrote to BILL MCGARRITY on 04-15-18 14:04 <=-

> Would be nice though of the code could be changed slightly to give you the
> option of playing what world you'd like... :)

DW> I thought that also... maybe one could set it up as separate door
DW> entries for each world? That'd take three separate insallations of the
DW> door code, though.

Actually five...as there are 5 different worlds... :/

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[Bill McGarrity]

To: Daryl Stout
-=> Daryl Stout wrote to BILL MCGARRITY on 04-15-18 13:26 <=-

DS> Bill,

BM> DS> Real Sysops read the docs -- or at least, skim them. <G>

BM>Skimming was the problem.... miss one sentence and poof... you're

crewed!!!

DS> I've also learned that when you prepare a file, document, or even a
DS> bulletin for the BBS, you need A SECOND SET OF EYES...because if you
DS> miss something in the file, the program won't run, or it'll have
DS> something in there you didn't want!!

DS> You can look at it numerous times, and never see it...but the second
DS> set of eyes can spot the error right off the bat!!

True.... that's why I read it first without my glasses then with them... ;)

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[Paul Quinn]

To: Dumas Walker
Hi! Dumas,

On 04/16/2018 04:05 AM, you wrote:

>> Simple. Just run it in a virtual environment of some sort,

DW> I thought about that but, as it is a BBS sysop message reader, it'd sure
DW> make the messages look real old. :)

Shite. I thought you were talking about something worth the hassle, like a
game. 8-)

I prefer this one, with configurations for four other BBSs besides the point.
My other sysop readers are GoldEd for either Linux or Windows, with my Windows
preference really being SemPoint. Best of all: none require registration.

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[MRO]

To: Mojo
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Mojo to MRO on Sun Apr 15 2018 11:06 am

> Re: Re: Door Registration
> By: MRO to KenDB3 on Sat Apr 14 2018 10:15 pm

> MR> did you check out bbs-reg? he has some registrations for vampire games


> What is the address to this place?


> I have never heard of it but would like to check it out.

> Mojo

it's the bbsreg packs that have been floating around for 20+ years.

dinks crack packs, bbsreg

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[Dan C]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 22:08:58 -0500, MRO wrote:

> To: Bill McGarrity
> Re: Door Registration By: Bill McGarrity to Mojo on Fri Apr 13 2018
> 08:18 am
>
> > Send them the check, make it attn: to the woman and write a note
> > inside explaining the situation. I'm sure if she gets it things will
> > run smoothly. Remeber to fill the form out EXACTLY as you want it on
> > the key. They screwed mine up the first time.
>
>
>
> i wouldnt even send a check if i was this guy.
> this woman you mentioned is someone i never heard of. i always dealt
> with shannon.
>
> i would just stay away from gameport and registering lord.

Unless, of course, one wanted a registered LORD game on their BBS.

How else can it be done?

An unregistered LORD door is pretty much useless.


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[Geoffrey Sammons]

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 9:04:28 PM UTC-4, KenDB3 wrote:
> To: Dumas Walker

> > >There was a time when I was able to step through DOS executables in DEBUG
> > and >manually patch out registration and validation routines, but those days
> > are >long gone now.
>

> > I used to know how to do a few minor things in DEBUG. Wish I knew how to

> > do this. I have a program that actually is registered but, for some

> > reason, in ~ 2015 the registered features quit working. It still reports
> > the copy as "registered," it just no longer allows any of the features.
>
> > Would be nice to get it working fully again. I always joke to myself that
> > it was not Y2K compliant but took 15 years for the bug to show up. :)
>
> Speaking of Door Registrations, I spent a crazy amount of time trying to find a

> crack for one game from Sean Price's Rude Dog Software line, called Vampire

> Knights; he also made Dragon's Claw. There was a crack for Dragon's Claw, but I
> never came across one for Vampire Knights (last version I found was 2.9).
>
> Does anyone happen to have a crack for Vampire Knights (or some other method of

> getting it registered)? It's not a big deal, just one of those things where
> once you invest a bunch of time it is kind of a bummer when you come up empty
> handed.
>
> ~KenDB3
>
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My Rude Dog Gen did not work. It creates 1 line serial and VampKnights takes 2 line. BTW, every time I run mine, it keeps giving no game.cfg found. I have BAT file telling it to run game1.cfg (depending on node).

[Daryl Stout]

To: BILL MCGARRITY
Bill,

BM>True.... that's why I read it first without my glasses then with them... ;)

I just have reading glasses, after cataract surgery. But, as the late
Red Skelton noted "I don't really need them. I've reached the age where
curiosity is greater than vanity". <G> Never mind it'd help if I cleaned
them every so often. :P

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[MRO]

To: Dan C
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on Mon Apr 16 2018 03:04 am

> > i wouldnt even send a check if i was this guy.
> > this woman you mentioned is someone i never heard of. i always dealt
> > with shannon.

> > i would just stay away from gameport and registering lord.

> Unless, of course, one wanted a registered LORD game on their BBS.

> How else can it be done?

> An unregistered LORD door is pretty much useless.

you can vote with your wallet. the online system broke and they didnt bother
fixing it. why? because people found it acceptable to send in a check and
maybe get their registration code. if people didnt find this type of behavior
acceptable there would probably be a change.

do they care about the 15 dollar registrations?

they have refused to make it freeware, they have refused to
sell the software for a somewhat large sum. i offered around 5k, people
offered different amounts.
they still cash the checks.

so they must care.

i would just develop a free open source lord clone and then nobody would have
to register lord ever again.

or just run an older version and use a serial.

also some dumbass forgot that his code was in a lord4.8 release that was
unofficial and fixed the screens and menus and it is out in the wild.

but go the open source route and if you cant program you can get together with
a few guys and come up with money and pay someone.
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[Tony Langdon]

To: Dumas Walker
-=> Dumas Walker wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

> That mightn't be as silly as it sounds, wonder what happens if you turn back
> the system clock temporarily. ;)

DW> I need to try that and see. :)

Would help see if it is a date related bug. :)


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[Geoffrey Sammons]

Rude Dog engine serial is universal for all its products. Vampire Knights, I have the Rude Dog engine registered. I am going to play with the game serial itself now. Game is the same as Dragon Claw. My screen the right side EOL (end of line) is off, but I am using a high resolution monitor :) I do see a partial consistency in the serial code for few rude dog games I have installed.


If anyone could help me.. I am looking for a GOOD Arm of The Dragon install that actually puts files in the correct folders/directories.

[Daryl Stout]

To: DAN C
Dan,

DC>An unregistered LORD door is pretty much useless.

Unfortunately, that's the case with most shareware.

Daryl

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[Android8675]

To: Lockery
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Lockery to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Apr 13 2018 10:43 am

>> I'd give anything for someone to pick up and start expanding on
>> Solomora's War or TW2.js

Lo> Solomora's War is not a door game I can find. Where is a link to it?

telnet://shodanscore.com

It's like civilization, but without a tech tree. take over cities, build units,
etc. It's a great game, if there are a lot of people actively playing. The game
goes in turns so once everyone logs their turn (or 24 hours passes) the game
will then advance to the next turn. It's pretty slick.

Game is a conversion to .js by someone, forget who, Possibly Digital Man or
Deuce.

my board is the only board running it at the moment. It's in the sci-fi area of
door games.

-A.

p.s.-ok, i'm fucking with you, the game is in SynchroNet CVS under xtrn/war
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[Android8675]

To: echicken
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: echicken to Bill McGarrity on Fri Apr 13 2018 08:33 pm

BM>> Error Loading Map (Open Error)

ec> Ah, I thought he'd left it in a working state. Maybe there's some
ec> (undocumented?) initial setup step that's required. I don't think I've
ec> tried running it here.

Works fine for me. Try the readme, or just connect and play on my board. :P
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[Android8675]

To: Dumas Walker
Re: Solomoriah's War
By: Dumas Walker to ECHICKEN on Sat Apr 14 2018 02:09 pm

DW> Rats, if you all had asked this question about a month ago, I could have
DW> told you what I did for certain. As is, I am pretty sure that is what I
DW> did to get mine to work. :)

Documentation worked for me. Honestly I'm a bit disheartened that the folks at
CoA, DoorParty, or BBSLinks haven't gotten this game setup. It's a good game,
but ONLY if a lot of people actively play.
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[Android8675]

To: Bill McGarrity
Re: Solomoriah's War
By: Bill McGarrity to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 15 2018 07:01 pm

DW>> I thought that also... maybe one could set it up as separate door
DW>> entries for each world? That'd take three separate insallations of

DW>> the door code, though.

BM> Actually five...as there are 5 different worlds... :/

I setup 3 more, maps are easy to setup. Honestly I'd like a random map
generator so I could run one game and have it change maps on game reset.

-A.
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[Dan C]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:11:31 -0500, MRO wrote:

> To: Dan C
> Re: Re: Door Registration By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on Mon Apr
> 16 2018 03:04 am
>
> > > i wouldnt even send a check if i was this guy.
> > > this woman you mentioned is someone i never heard of. i always
> > > dealt with shannon.
>
> > > i would just stay away from gameport and registering lord.
>
> > Unless, of course, one wanted a registered LORD game on their BBS.
>
> > How else can it be done?
>
> > An unregistered LORD door is pretty much useless.
>
>
>
>
> you can vote with your wallet. the online system broke and they didnt
> bother fixing it. why? because people found it acceptable to send in a
> check and maybe get their registration code. if people didnt find this
> type of behavior acceptable there would probably be a change.

OK..... well I can't change what other people find acceptable. My
question remains: What if you want a registered LORD door? What
*realistic* options do you have?

>
> do they care about the 15 dollar registrations?

I don't know. Do you?

>
> they have refused to make it freeware, they have refused to sell the
> software for a somewhat large sum. i offered around 5k, people offered
> different amounts.

Well, that is certainly within their rights. Unfortunate though.

> they still cash the checks.

So it *CAN* be done, unless they cash the check and don't provide a
registration code.

>
> so they must care.
>
> i would just develop a free open source lord clone and then nobody would
> have to register lord ever again.

I don't have the programming ability to do that. Do you?

>
> or just run an older version and use a serial.

Yes, but maybe not as good an option as running a registered NEW version.

>
> also some dumbass forgot that his code was in a lord4.8 release that was
> unofficial and fixed the screens and menus and it is out in the wild.
>
> but go the open source route and if you cant program you can get
> together with a few guys and come up with money and pay someone.

Uh-huh. Not really too realistic, that.

Oh well. I have a legit registration, from 20+ years ago, when I ran a
BBS and registered it. It works fine on LORD versions up to when it
changed ownership, can't remember the exact version "cutoff". Maybe
4.06? Or was it 4.00?

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[KenDB3]

To: MRO
> Re: Re: Door Registration
> By: KenDB3 to Dumas Walker on Sat Apr 14 2018 08:05 pm

> > Vampire Knights; he also made Dragon's Claw. There was a crack for
> > Dragon's Claw, but I never came across one for Vampire Knights (last
> > version I found was 2.9).

> > Does anyone happen to have a crack for Vampire Knights (or some other
> > method of getting it registered)? It's not a big deal, just one of those
> > things

> did you check out bbs-reg? he has some registrations for vampire games

I did. I worked my way through a lot of old BBS-REG and REGIT files, but never
had any luck. I was wondering if anyone had an older version that was cracked,
or something else I may have never come across.

~KenDB3

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[KenDB3]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

> > ĹŁ Synchronet ĹŁ KD3net-Rhode Island's only BBS about nothing.

> > http://bbs.kd3.us
> > --- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
> > * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net
> My Rude Dog Gen did not work. It creates 1 line serial and VampKnights
> takes 2 line. BTW, every time I run mine, it keeps giving no game.cfg
> found. I have BAT file telling it to run game1.cfg (depending on node).

I managed to use the Dragon's Claw reg to register the Rude Dog 'system' which
runs the game modules, but no luck with the Vampire Knights module by itself. I
do have it running though, and the game is playable, just hindered because it
is not regged.

[Geoffrey Sammons]

>Hello, how would I go about registering TW2002 V3.09?
>

It's not officially supported any longer, but if you register TWGS for at least $15, I will provide the older TW registration codes that will activate TWv3.09 and Gold.

http://www.eisonline.com/

He is still honoring registrations for older versions. I would email him 1st to confirm what you want.

[Geoffrey Sammons]

http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/1151

Anyone know about these 2 door games?

[Kirkman]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Tue Apr 17 2018 06:44 am

GS> http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/1151
GS> Anyone know about these 2 door games?

I wrote that article, so yes! It only discusses one game: From Here to
Eternity, but Shooter wrote another a year or two later called Freedom Train.

Shooter approached FHTE sort of like Ready Player One: it's a mishmash of
different cultural properties. Freedom Train is more self-contained, with its
own story and universe.

Both have elements of interactive fiction or old Sierra Online games.

I played through Freedom Train and managed to beat it last year. I really
enjoyed it, though I found quite a few bugs along the way. Shooter has fixed
many of those since then.

If you want to play the games, you can call his bbs (bitsunrise.com). Other
BBSes (like mine, guardian.synchro.net) allow users to connect to his game
server to play his games.

I interviewed Shooter in 2015 about his games. You can read that interview
here:
http://breakintochat.com/blog/2015/09/18/shooter-jennings-creator-of-from-here-
to-eternity/

--Josh

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[Mojo]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Tue Apr 17 2018 06:44 am

GS> http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/1151

GS> Anyone know about these 2 door games?


I would check with Shooter Jennings to be sure but I thought these games were
for Wildcat BBS software only. But I may be wrong about that.

Mojo

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[Geoffrey Sammons]

I actually like to run those 2 doors on my bbs for my kids and their friends to play. Doing a search for them turned up nothing except for movies on the second title.

[Kirkman]

To: Mojo
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Mojo to Geoffrey Sammons on Tue Apr 17 2018 12:20 pm

GS>> http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/1151
GS>> Anyone know about these 2 door games?

Mo> I would check with Shooter Jennings to be sure but I thought these games
Mo> were for Wildcat BBS software only. But I may be wrong about that.

They are not downloadable. For now Shooter wants to limit them to his central
"BCR Game Server".

I have talked with him about releasing the code at some point down the road.
Don't want them to get lost to history if he ever pulls the plug or loses
interest.

--Josh

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[Kirkman]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Re: Door Registration

By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Tue Apr 17 2018 10:57 am

GS> I actually like to run those 2 doors on my bbs for my kids and their
GS> friends to play. Doing a search for them turned up nothing except for
GS> movies on the second title.

Yeah, besides my interviews, there's not a ton out there about them. I added
both games to my BBS game wiki a couple months ago, but unless you do a more
specific Google search (e.g. "from here to eternity" "bbs"), you probably won't
find them.

Here are links, in case you're interested:

https://breakintochat.com/wiki/From_Here_To_Eternity
https://breakintochat.com/wiki/Freedom_Train

[MRO]

To: Dan C
Re: Re: Door Registration

By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on Tue Apr 17 2018 03:09 am

> OK..... well I can't change what other people find acceptable. My
> question remains: What if you want a registered LORD door? What
> *realistic* options do you have

you should just do without or download a version that is out there with some
idiot's registration code already in it.

> > do they care about the 15 dollar registrations?

> I don't know. Do you?

yes.

> > they still cash the checks.
> So it *CAN* be done, unless they cash the check and don't provide a
> registration code.

people had money taken but werent given codes. and that was back when they were
active.

> > i would just develop a free open source lord clone and then nobody would
> > have to register lord ever again.

> I don't have the programming ability to do that. Do you?

you could pay someone to do it.

> > or just run an older version and use a serial.

> Yes, but maybe not as good an option as running a registered NEW version.

i'm an expert on lord and i will tell you now that there is no real benefit
to running lord after the registration scheme fix. if you run it on dosemu,
yes, there is a benefit.

btw, it was a brown noser bbser who went to gameport and told them about how
there were keygens and gameport then told preslar to change the reg scheme.

> > but go the open source route and if you cant program you can get
> > together with a few guys and come up with money and pay someone.

> Uh-huh. Not really too realistic, that.

what do you mean 'uh-huh'? you cant get a few other people interested in this
and get them to fork over a little money?

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[MRO]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Tue Apr 17 2018 05:47 am

> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

there were some people complaining about their reg info being wiped due to
how windows 10 doesnt allow writes in some directories.
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[MRO]

To: Geoffrey Sammons
Re: Re: Door Registration

By: Geoffrey Sammons to alt.bbs.synchronet on Tue Apr 17 2018 06:44 am

> From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

> http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/1151

> Anyone know about these 2 door games?

i played them, but didnt get into them.
they are only avaliable on his bbs. it's a way for him to try to get callers.
i know he had a contest where he was giving out money but i dont think anybody
took him up on it.

i did see in the interview that he trashed lord, which is the most popular
doorgame ever created. i find that a bit ironic and short sighted.

[Dumas Walker]

To: PAUL QUINN
>I prefer this one, with configurations for four other BBSs besides the point.
>My other sysop readers are GoldEd for either Linux or Windows, with my Windows
>preference really being SemPoint. Best of all: none require registration.

You really cannot beat that. :)

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[Kirkman]

To: MRO
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: MRO to Geoffrey Sammons on Tue Apr 17 2018 09:24 pm

MR> i did see in the interview that he trashed lord, which is the most popular
MR> doorgame ever created. i find that a bit ironic and short sighted.

He didn't trash LORD. He was responding to my train of thought that the nature
of BBS games is foreign to younger people today who didn't grow up playing
them: having to wait 24 hours to play more turns, etc.

He said that the levelling up mechanic in LORD was "a pain in the ass," and
it's hard to argue with that.

Any BBS game that involves strategy can get tedious. There's a reason people
sometimes referred to them as "keyboard-mashing" games. Even back in the day
people were writing scripts and helper apps to automate the tedium of earning
credits in games. TradeWars by itself must have dozens: Swath, TWterm, Zoc,
TradeWars Helper, etc.

Shooter's games have this same problem to a degree. But he tries to make the
game more palatable to newbies by offering players instant respawn tokens, so
they don't lose all their progress the first few times they die.

Another difference is story. Freedom Train in particular is a VERY narrative
game. For me personally, that made the game much more appealing. I wanted to
keep discovering the next secret to see where the story was heading.

--Josh

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[MRO]

To: Kirkman
Re: Re: Door Registration
By: Kirkman to MRO on Wed Apr 18 2018 09:40 am

> He said that the levelling up mechanic in LORD was "a pain in the ass," and
> it's hard to argue with that.

how is it a pain in the ass? you go in the forest, go in igms, kill other
people and get experience. it's very simple and not a pain in the ass.
it's not even as much of a grind as current games.

not only all that, but it's fun when you have a bunch of people doing it.

ignorant people like to talk shit about lord because it's one of the most
popular doorgames out of a handful and they know the NAME, but haven't really
played it enough to understand how perfect a doorgame it is.

> Another difference is story. Freedom Train in particular is a VERY narrative
> game. For me personally, that made the game much more appealing. I wanted to
> keep discovering the next secret to see where the story was heading.

gamers dont want stories. they want to get to playing. they keyboard mash
through that shit.
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[Dan C]

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:22:07 -0500, MRO wrote:

> To: Dan C
> Re: Re: Door Registration By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on Tue Apr
> 17 2018 03:09 am
>
> > OK..... well I can't change what other people find acceptable. My
> > question remains: What if you want a registered LORD door? What
> > *realistic* options do you have
>
> you should just do without or download a version that is out there with
> some idiot's registration code already in it.

I should just do without? What kind of answer is that?

And I don't run cracked/stolen software/doors.

> > > they still cash the checks.
> > So it *CAN* be done, unless they cash the check and don't provide a
> > registration code.
>
>
> people had money taken but werent given codes. and that was back when
> they were active.

Well that sucks, for sure. But it brings me back to the ORIGINAL
question: If they are not active now, how can a person get LORD
registered?

> > > i would just develop a free open source lord clone and then nobody
> > > would have to register lord ever again.
>
> > I don't have the programming ability to do that. Do you?
>
> you could pay someone to do it.

I don't want to do that. Do you?

>
> > > or just run an older version and use a serial.
>
> > Yes, but maybe not as good an option as running a registered NEW
> > version.
>
> i'm an expert on lord and i will tell you now that there is no real
> benefit to running lord after the registration scheme fix. if you run
> it on dosemu, yes, there is a benefit.

Ummmm... OK. As I recall a player can't get past level 6 or something
like that, if the door isn't registered. Isn't that true? If so, I'd say
that's a "real benefit"...

>
> btw, it was a brown noser bbser who went to gameport and told them about
> how there were keygens and gameport then told preslar to change the reg
> scheme.

Well that sucks.

>
> > > but go the open source route and if you cant program you can get
> > > together with a few guys and come up with money and pay someone.
>
> > Uh-huh. Not really too realistic, that.
>
> what do you mean 'uh-huh'? you cant get a few other people interested in
> this and get them to fork over a little money?

No, I can't. I don't know anybody who can program something like that,
and don't know anybody else who would be interested enough in paying for
it. Do you?

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"Bother!" said Pooh, as he wondered why he bothered to answer.

[Geoffrey Sammons]

Dan, Install an older version and use key generator. If GamePort gets their act together, then register it at that time. My door games that I registered myself, I have every intention to legally register it if the author/license holder can be found. No offense, but your question was answered and it seems you don't want to accept what your options are. If you don't like the above option.. send them a check for registration and cross your fingers... that is the only other option than what was stated here :)

[Geoffrey Sammons]

Lunatix 4.2b

Can anyone cut/paste settings for node1 so I can see the com setting? When I run mine, it is super slow with ansi files showing partial until I hit a key then jumps to next screen.

Thanks :)