Something I wonder about Battle Star Galactica?
The Bitterly Succinct Mr. Hole
Their little strolls on Caprica(sp) while showing off beautiful
Vancouver B.C. don't seem very productive, yes?
If this issue with BSG has been brought up in the past few weeks I
apologize you see I am much too busy taking naps waiting for Captain
Infinity to show up in said naps for me to actually read all the post
made about the show.
.
Mr. Hole
The favor of your reply is requested.
Incontinence 2005: Its not just for Grandma any more!
"You would make a destructive god, Mr. Hole, but as a human, you remain
pathetic and ineffectual." -- Heck
John Shocked
set, a top notch Runway Model. The producers want to show off her best
qualities. She seems to be holding up her end in the acting department too,
although this is a rather one dimensional role.
Politics
"The Bitterly Succinct Mr. Hole" <holef...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Ken from Chicago
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She's actually better when she's covered up. The scenes when Six is not
suppose to be oozing sex appeal have all been better, whether she's staring
in awe at a newborn baby, just before snapping its neck, to spare it the
upcoming holocaust; as Sheila Godfrey trying to frame Baltar, or on Caprica
noting how ... alive ... humans are even if it costs them-er, us, so much
when we experience major loss.
-- Ken from Chicago (who only took a few years to recover from the demise of
the Amiga computer, and CBM's betrayal of it, scumbags!)
Ridge
(news:8L-dnWHTCbf...@comcast.com) :
I was thinking the same thing, there's a great scene that she goes
totally Fatal Attraction on poor Guias and strangles him, that was a good
scene.
--
YKhan
> The tall blond woman Cylon, I believe she is "6", is in reality off
the BSG
> set, a top notch Runway Model. The producers want to show off her
best
> qualities. She seems to be holding up her end in the acting
department too,
> although this is a rather one dimensional role.
I think Mr Bitterly Succinct is referring to C-Boomer and Helo, since
he's referring to Fembot and What's-His-Face strolling together through
Vancouver. It's quite obvious. :-)
Yousuf Khan
Anthony Buckland
downloaded ammo and maybe some other stuff at the
beginning of the series. And promptly had to endure days of
fending off attacks every 33 minutes. Unless somewhere in
the ragtag fleet is a magic manufactory which works like a
giant Star Trek replicator on any handy space debris they
run across, we have to have an episode where they run into
a friendly civilization or six that hand over shiploads of
consumables, fuel, etc.
So many things they have to run out of: somebody breaks
a crystal drinking glass, it's never going to be replaced, for
a small example.
Water, problem was solved. Vitamins, surgical instruments,
I don't think so.
Michael S. Schiffer
news:TqSdnRVR7uq...@look.ca:
> The problem for me with BG is supplies. Yes, they hurriedly
> downloaded ammo and maybe some other stuff at the
> beginning of the series. And promptly had to endure days of
> fending off attacks every 33 minutes. Unless somewhere in
> the ragtag fleet is a magic manufactory which works like a
> giant Star Trek replicator on any handy space debris they
> run across, we have to have an episode where they run into
> a friendly civilization or six that hand over shiploads of
> consumables, fuel, etc.
> So many things they have to run out of: somebody breaks
> a crystal drinking glass, it's never going to be replaced, for
> a small example.
Given energy and labor, they can probably recycle a lot of the
materials. But there are going to be inevitable losses, and they're
short on labor.
> Water, problem was solved. Vitamins, surgical instruments,
> I don't think so.
They could handwave some of that by including some loaded container
ship-equivalents in the fleet along with the passenger ships.
(Current models can carry something like 20,000 shipping containers,
which is a fair amount of stuff for a 50,000-person fleet trying to
get jump-started-- though inevitably they'd turn out to have ten
containers worth of action figures and none of surgical gauze.)
Without port facilities, though, getting to a given supply container
might be something of a challenge.
One way or another, one may hope that the issue of supples is at
least nodded to. If they're going to be in space for years, they
need food production and industry one way or another-- and their
experience with getting water and fuel suggests that they're not up
to just stripping raw materials off passing asteroids. It's a
difficult logistical problem, certainly, especially once they get
too far from Cylon outposts to do any repeats of last week's
refueling stop.
Mike
--
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS
msch...@condor.depaul.edu
Ken from Chicago
"Ryan" <rpa...@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>
>
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago (who only took a few years to recover from the demise
>> of the Amiga computer, and CBM's betrayal of it, scumbags!)
>
> after Mehdi Ali!
The truth will out.
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. "He went after mah father. I said he went after mah FATHER! I can't
roll with that."--'Black Bush', Dave Chappelle, CHAPPELLE'S SHOW.
Nopporn Wongrassamee
<buck...@direct.ca> wrote:
>The problem for me with BG is supplies. Yes, they hurriedly
>downloaded ammo and maybe some other stuff at the
>beginning of the series. And promptly had to endure days of
>fending off attacks every 33 minutes. Unless somewhere in
>the ragtag fleet is a magic manufactory which works like a
>giant Star Trek replicator on any handy space debris they
>run across, we have to have an episode where they run into
>a friendly civilization or six that hand over shiploads of
>consumables, fuel, etc.
*cough* Pegasus *cough*
Mac Roni
I thought Homeland Security had rounded up all of you dangerous Arab boys.
No doubt you are watching BSG to get ideas on infiltrating American military
installations.
Ken from Chicago
"Anthony Buckland" <buck...@direct.ca> wrote in message
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The big G is built like an air carrier for space. It's designed to be
self-sufficient and has limited manufacturing ability. Also they have mining
ships so there would be some limited processing ability of raw resources.
-- Ken from Chicago
Earl Grieda
Right. I have been thinking along the same line, but I do not let it get in
the way of the story. There are a million things than need to be done for
society to continue and there is only one hour a week to show that.
John Shocked
nuclear reactors or whatever type of fuel they use has to be able to run
water purification machines to create drinkable water out of soiled water.
Also, I thought some of the fleet contained agricultural acres which were
being used to grow food.
Politics
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j porter
better: Support military ships. Im sorry, but the cylons had Base ships and
fighters. It stands to reason that the Colonials would design smaller
capital ships to protect the Battlestars from these threats. I enjoy the
show, but many folks were pretty brutal when it came to insulting the old
show, and many of them now use the " just enjoy the show" arguments. That
argument doesnt cut it with this, mainly because the smaller ships would
have a pretty high chance of still being around, they would have FTL
engines, and they would probably not have been upgraded as they were not the
main ships. BTW this was a major beef I had with the old show as well.
Carriers never go alone. I'll save my pilot VS marine in cqb situation s for
later.
Keith W
"j porter" <mpor...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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This carrier was on its way to become a museum ship. How many escorts
do you thing the USS Intrepid had on her voyage to New York ?
Keith
Nopporn Wongrassamee
Add to that, if the FIGHTERS were loaded with the same navigation
program that the carriers had, why leave the support ships out?
Ken from Chicago
"j porter" <mpor...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
The support war ships were destroyed in the Cylon massacre.
-- Ken from Chicago
Mark Nobles
> "j porter" <mpor...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3HV_d.142346$nC5.1...@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> >
> It's important to remember the basic facts that form the foundation of the
> story because a lot of thought went into creating a believable scenario for
> the destruction of the Colonies.
>
> The premise is that the Colonials used a standard navigation program for ALL
> military ships, from Battlestars to Vipers. The Cylons identified that
> practice as the weak link in Colonial defenses and exploited it. They used
> a human replica Cylon, unknown to the Colonials, to infiltrate the defense
> establishment and plant a virus into the next program update. They waited
> until that update had been distributed and installed throughout the fleet
> then attacked. The virus corrupted and shut down all systems on the
> affected ship rendering them defenseless.
>
> This meant that the Cylons did not need overwhelming force to defeat the
> Colonial fleet. If you remember the series premier the Cylons only sent two
> raiders to destroy the entire Galactica air wing. The virus was activated
> and then the two raiders took out a vastly superior number of vipers with a
> single missile attack. They also sent a small number of raiders to attack
> the Galactica assuming it would be defenseless as well.
>
> It is not unreasonable to believe that as soon as a battle group encountered
> the Cylons every ship in that group was disabled and destroyed. This left
> no time for other Colonial ships to analyze what was happening and develop
> countermeasures and no survivors to provide intel for such an analysis. The
> two main reasons Galactica survived are; the first because she was being
> decommissioned and the corrupted update had not been installed although it
> had been installed on the newer Vipers because they were being transferred
> to other ships. The second reason is that old Mark II Vipers in the landing
> bay museum could be put back in service to defend Galactica from the small
> number of raiders sent to destroy her. So its not hard to believe that
> there were no escort ships that survived.
>
> The complexity of how Galactica escaped is what I appreciated most about the
> story. It does not require the Cylons to do something stupid for the
> Galactica to escape. Neither does it use some trick that violates the
> situation effecting the rest of the fleet. It uses a number of seemingly
> unrelated events that the Cylons could not have known about or controlled.
>
> Good writing is hard to find, and even harder to maintain.
An excellent summary, except there was no virus. It was a back-door
left in the software that allowed the cylons to send a shutdown command
to the ships.
j porter
"Mark Nobles" <cmn-n...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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are trainers. So, yes, I do find it improbable that all the support or
simply smaller military craft were destroyed. Do you really find it so
impossible to beleive that no other Cylon War I ship was turned into a
museum? We are talking about a civilization roughly 12 times our planet, and
I know that other countries than the US have older model ships. I dont mean
to agitate anyone, but I just thought that the new show producers were so
gung-ho to update the show that a subordinate destroyer or cruiser would be
in the offing. BTW why doesnt the Marine detachment have a sniper? or why
doesnt BG have an Intelligence Officer. Starbuck is an ace pilot, so she
shouldnt be used as either of those roles, as both roles require a very
different mindset than she posseses.
Ken from Chicago
Sure, other ships probably did survive--but just never caught up to big G.
They survived the Cylon massacre on far sides of Colonial space. It's as if
the Cylons massacred Earth and ships survived out near Pluto and out near
the Sun.
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. I favor an image of STARLINER GALAXIA with the long-range, high speed,
self-sufficient, bleeding edge tech--including redundant and independent
navigational systems, and a crack team of IT specialists who found detected
the source of the jamming and switched over, while later walling up that
backdoor--and its own private security fighters that are just as high tech
as big G is low tech. It leads its own ragtag fleet.
P.P.S. To say nothing of the BATTLESTAR PEGASUS being out there somewhere.
Mark Nobles
> Do you really find it so
> impossible to beleive that no other Cylon War I ship was turned into a
> museum? We are talking about a civilization roughly 12 times our planet, and
> I know that other countries than the US have older model ships.
The ships that had already been turned into museums don't matter. They
would have been demilitarized - their guns either removed or disabled
since very few cities would want a ship with live cannons moored nearby
- and their crews reassigned. Their engines would not be maintained in
operational condition, their fuel tanks drained and filled with
something non-flammable, their basic supplies replaced with musuem
needs. The only expendables on a musuem ship are toilet paper and
paint.
Even ships that are mothballed, preserved to be reactivated, take
months of refurbishment to be ready to go into action.
The only reason Galactica was able to go back into action was that it
was *on* *the* *way* to retirement, not actually retired.
Outrider
>
> "Mark Nobles" <cmn-n...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> Outrider <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "j porter" <mpor...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3HV_d.142346$nC5.1...@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> > >
Ok a back door not a virus.
As it relates to the point of my post its a distinction without a
difference.
> the US Navy has many ships of various ages still in the fleet. Many of
> these
> are trainers. So, yes, I do find it improbable that all the support or
> simply smaller military craft were destroyed.
It goes back to the premise of the attack. The question is not if the
events make sense or are consistent with what happens in the US Navy or on
earth, its are the events consistent with and make sense in the universe
created by the writers.
In that universe ALL colonial military ships used the corrupted navigation
software. Age was not relevant. The reason Galactica did not have the
software was not it's age, it was that it was being decommissioned. Why put
the time and effort into a major software upgrade so you can go sit in orbit
around some planet. Same with the Mark II Vipers. It was not that they
were old, it was that they were museum pieces and no longer active so no one
had loaded the new navigation program.
>Do you really find it so
> impossible to beleive that no other Cylon War I ship was turned into a
> museum? We are talking about a civilization roughly 12 times our planet,
> and
> I know that other countries than the US have older model ships. I dont
> mean
> to agitate anyone, but I just thought that the new show producers were so
> gung-ho to update the show that a subordinate destroyer or cruiser would
> be
> in the offing.
There may be other "museum" ships. But they would no longer have an active
crew on board or be in any working condition. Galactica was in a unique
situation. Ready to be decommissioned, but not yet decommissioned. A
portion of her viper wing was still on board, all systems were still active.
Weapons had not been removed, but ammunition had. That's a condition any
other ship was not likely to be in. It would be like trying to reactivate
the Lexington from her mooring at Corpus Christy Texas to escape an attack,
as compared to reactivating the Missouri while she was being sailed to Pearl
Harbor to become a museum. BIG difference in what has to take place to make
the ships work.
>BTW why doesnt the Marine detachment have a sniper? or why
>doesnt BG have an Intelligence Officer. Starbuck is an ace pilot, so she
>shouldnt be used as either of those roles, as both roles require a very
>different mindset than she posseses.
Again, it goes to what was happening at the time of the attack. Half the
air wing had already been reassigned and the starboard landing bay converted
to a museum. Most of the crew had probably been transferred already. The
remaining pilots and Vipers were there for the Fly-by as part of the
decommissioning ceremony. The marines were there to participate in the
ceremony and provide basic security until the ship was decommissioned and
handed over to the museum authority. All the other combat personnel like
Intelligence Officers, Marine Snipers, Special forces and the like had been
reassigned because they were not needed for the decommissioning. There were
lots of other ships available to handle any problems. The only reason
Starbuck was still there is because she's Adama's pet.
Outrider
Ryan
> simply smaller military craft were destroyed. Do you really find it so
> impossible to beleive that no other Cylon War I ship was turned into a
> museum? We are talking about a civilization roughly 12 times our planet, and
> I know that other countries than the US have older model ships. I dont mean
If Moore decides to go the route of TOS, this concept could be the
basis for exaplaining how the Pegasus survived.
> to agitate anyone, but I just thought that the new show producers were so
> gung-ho to update the show that a subordinate destroyer or cruiser would be
> in the offing. BTW why doesnt the Marine detachment have a sniper? or why
> doesnt BG have an Intelligence Officer. Starbuck is an ace pilot, so she
> shouldnt be used as either of those roles, as both roles require a very
> different mindset than she posseses.
It was to be the last day of Galactica's "active" service. I don't
find it hard to believe that she wan't carrying a full crew compliment.
After all, everyone was telling the Commander goodbye, and what an
honor it was, blah blah... I'm guessing many higher-ranking officers
would have begun transferringto other assignments by that point.
I mean, really... Galactica hadn't even done an FTL jump in what...
three years? I hardly think she was in prim readiness for anything.
D
actually edited down the previous posts. Hey, guys, don't you realize that
preserving a thousand lines of previous text means that fewer people will
scroll down to read your reply?]
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In article <190320051949103491%cmn-n...@houston.rr.com>, Mark Nobles
<cmn-n...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> The ships that had already been turned into museums don't matter. They
> would have been demilitarized - their guns either removed or disabled
> since very few cities would want a ship with live cannons moored nearby
In fact, one of the deleted scenes on the DVD shows Galactica dumping all of
its ordnance, which then explodes in the distance. This was part of its
demilitarization.
Another thing to consider is that any ships that were museums had no weapons
at all and were probably without main power, key parts, etc. The Cylons
could have shot a hole through the engines of a museum ship and rendered it
completely useless.
As to why there are no other "minor" military ships left? Who says there
aren't? A few small patrol ships or escorts could have avoided the initial
computer attack, only to be wiped out by the Cylons after a few days.
D
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
wrote:
>[First, a big hearty THANK YOU to the first person in this thread who
>actually edited down the previous posts
Now there's two of us.
Actually I have been trimming Usenet posts before you were a dirty
look in your father's eye.
--
Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html
"What is the State? The State is people - people who believe
they have a right to rule others. These people are the thieving,
murdering brutes responsible for war, conscription, taxation,
massacres, slave camps, gas chambers, killing fields, nuclear
missles, and endless death stretching back ten thousand years.
Luckily for all, the State is only people. And, generally, the
least competent of people. They are the ones who cannot innovate,
only steal. They cannot reason, only kill. They are brutes who
see the greatest efforts of mankind as loot to seize and control.
Yet when they seize the creations of greater minds, the works
crumble in their hands, for they cannot control what they are
incapable of understanding."
-- Victor Koman, "Kings of the High Frontier"
Quiet Desperation
<curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote:
> As it relates to the point of my post its a distinction without a
> difference.
Well... there's a little difference. A virus tends to be an autonomous
bit of code that the creator has little control of once it is released
into the wild. It could have been detected early by chance. A backdoor
sits there unnoticable until you really need to use it.
Ken from Chicago
"Quiet Desperation" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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And a virus infects others.
-- Ken from Chicago
YKhan
Ha-ha, you're a clever one, Cletus. You're absolutely right, we A-rabs
are watching BSG to figure out how to infiltrate American military
installations, afterall what's the difference between outer space and
America anyways? Where's a Cylon 50 Megaton nuke when you need one? :-)
Yousuf Khan
Outrider
"Quiet Desperation" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I concede that a virus and a program back door are different things and
behave differently. That fact has no impact on the point of my post, which
was that the Cylons disabled the fleet through the navigation program used
by ALL active military ships in the Colonial Fleet. This being the case it
is not unreasonable that the Cylons would be able to wipe out every ship in
the fleet leaving no smaller escort ships as survivors and the exact
mechanism used in the navigation program, virus or back-door, is irrelevant.
I guess they no longer teach people how to parse text to identify the
relevant content in public schools. God I feel old.
--
Outrider
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
Zombie Elvis
and cats lived together. One voice cried out in the wilderness: "j
porter" <mpor...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in
<aw1%d.84107$vK5....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>:
> the US Navy has many ships of various ages still in the fleet. Many of these
> are trainers. So, yes, I do find it improbable that all the support or
> simply smaller military craft were destroyed. Do you really find it so
> impossible to beleive that no other Cylon War I ship was turned into a
> museum? We are talking about a civilization roughly 12 times our planet, and
> I know that other countries than the US have older model ships. I dont mean
Yes but how many of the scattered fleet museums had an actual military
crew at the time of the attacks? The only reason Galactica did was
because it was being retired at the exact moment that the Cylons
attacked. Adama was going to retire. One of the landing bays had
already been converted into a gift shop and AFAWK is still useless.
There are probably more than a few ships which survived the Cylon
attack because they were old fleet trainers and museum pieces. These
would have been promptly captured by the Cylons without a crew to
defend them or cut and run.
Also, keep in mind that Ron Moore has talked about redoing "The Living
Legend." For those of you who never saw the original BSG, "The Living
Legend" guest-starred Lloyd Bridges as a highly decorated commander
whose battlestar -- the Pegasus -- also escaped destruction at the
hands of the Cylons. He had a full complement of fighters and had been
harassing the Cylons with hit and run attacks. Eventually, he bit off
more than he could chew attacking a pair of Cylon Basestars but not
before off-loading all his fighters and surplus personnel on
Galactica. As a result, Galactica was much better armed after
Commander Kane and the Pegasus disappeared again. Similarly, there
could be another battlestar out there with a full complement of
fighters and support craft. You'll just have to keep watching....
> to agitate anyone, but I just thought that the new show producers were so
> gung-ho to update the show that a subordinate destroyer or cruiser would be
> in the offing. BTW why doesnt the Marine detachment have a sniper? or why
They only had a skeleton crew. If their support craft and most of
their pilots had already been reassigned to other battlestars, perhaps
most of their Marines had already been reassigned as well....
> doesnt BG have an Intelligence Officer. Starbuck is an ace pilot, so she
> shouldnt be used as either of those roles, as both roles require a very
> different mindset than she posseses.
True but we're not looking at a fully crewed ship here. Galactica was
never intended to fly again so there is no reason to assume that they
would have filled every single vacancy which had cropped up over the
past few weeks or months.
--
Roberto Castillo
roberto...@ameritech.net
http://www.freewebs.com/robertocastillo/
NewsNovice
"Outrider" <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> I guess they no longer teach people how to parse text to identify the
> relevant content in public schools. God I feel old.
>
Heh. Reminds me of a quote by Josh Billings, regarding the "Particular
Person"; to whom it is not as important for something to be "just right," as
it is for it to be "just /so/." I've liked that saying for years.
Ken from Chicago
"Outrider" <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
Unless it's a VIRUS that CREATES a BACK DOOR.
-- Ken from Chicago
Mark Nobles
> "Quiet Desperation" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:200320051426158607%nos...@nospam.com...
> > In article <oi5%d.6011$ot....@tornado.texas.rr.com>, Outrider
> > <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As it relates to the point of my post its a distinction without a
> >> difference.
> >
> > Well... there's a little difference. A virus tends to be an autonomous
> > bit of code that the creator has little control of once it is released
> > into the wild. It could have been detected early by chance. A backdoor
> > sits there unnoticable until you really need to use it.
>
> I concede that a virus and a program back door are different things and
> behave differently. That fact has no impact on the point of my post, which
> was that the Cylons disabled the fleet through the navigation program used
> by ALL active military ships in the Colonial Fleet. This being the case it
> is not unreasonable that the Cylons would be able to wipe out every ship in
> the fleet leaving no smaller escort ships as survivors and the exact
> mechanism used in the navigation program, virus or back-door, is irrelevant.
It actually is (very slightly) relevant. Because it was a back door
installed in a version of the software, it only affected the ships and
craft in which that software was installed, and did not spread itself
to others. This is why the Galactica and her old Vipers were not
affected. Had it been a virus, which is defined as a program that
replicates itself, it would have affected random ships and fighters,
rather than everybody; there would be other warships that escaped. With
the backdoor intentionally installed everywhere, only the Galactica
with her obsolescent software was spared.
>
> I guess they no longer teach people how to parse text to identify the
> relevant content in public schools. God I feel old.
It has nothing to do with being able to find relevance in text. I took
my SATs in 1970. But my brain has not ossified to where I can't follow
thread drift.
Mark Nobles
You forgot to mention how all a ya'll have a single goal programmed
into you, and totally lack any ability for individual thought about
your values and aspirations.
Outrider
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>
> "Outrider" <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:XNt%d.24865$Ux....@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>> I concede that a virus and a program back door are different things and
>> behave differently. That fact has no impact on the point of my post,
>> which was that the Cylons disabled the fleet through the navigation
>> program used by ALL active military ships in the Colonial Fleet. This
>> being the case it is not unreasonable that the Cylons would be able to
>> wipe out every ship in the fleet leaving no smaller escort ships as
>> survivors and the exact mechanism used in the navigation program, virus
>> or back-door, is irrelevant.
>>
>> I guess they no longer teach people how to parse text to identify the
>> relevant content in public schools. God I feel old.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Outrider
>>
>> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
>> Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
>> -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Unless it's a VIRUS that CREATES a BACK DOOR.
>
Outrider
By the way, what part of Chicago?
Ken from Chicago
Better than being dumb.
> Outrider
>
> By the way, what part of Chicago?
Oak Park.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
There was also an indication that some kind of device, like the one Baltar
found, was installed in the Galactica and maybe other older capital ships to
disable them, maybe fry the circuits or release nerve gas or simply explode.
-- Ken from Chicago
Barbarossa
"Outrider" <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote:
> You can't get a decent pizza, hot dog, gyros, or Italian beef
> to save your sole.
I wouldn't eat the halibut, either.
--
________B___a___r___b___a___r___o___s___s___a________
Wayne B. Hewitt Encinitas, CA whe...@ucsd.edu
Outrider
>
> "Mark Nobles" <cmn-n...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:210320050905509968%cmn-n...@houston.rr.com...
>> Outrider <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>
> There was also an indication that some kind of device, like the one Baltar
> found, was installed in the Galactica and maybe other older capital ships
> to disable them, maybe fry the circuits or release nerve gas or simply
> explode.
>
None of the above. After extensive analysis Dr. Baltar has proved
conclusively that it was an advance form of Glade Plug-in room deodorizer.
;-)
Outrider
Outrider
>
> "Outrider" <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6JF%d.8789$ot....@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unless it's a VIRUS that CREATES a BACK DOOR.
>>>
>> <SLAP> Smart Ass :-)
>
> Better than being dumb.
>
>> Outrider
>>
>> By the way, what part of Chicago?
>
> Oak Park.
>
Lombard. Don't move to Texas, especial south Texas. You can't get a decent
pizza, hot dog, gyros, or Italian beef to save your sole. If it doesn't
have Jalapeños on it down here they don't know your supposed to eat it.
They do have nice smoked beef brisket though, but its not quite the same :-)
Outrider
(who would kill for a trip to Uno's downtown.)
Ken from Chicago
"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:U7S%d.262$Mt5.235@fed1read01...> news:8L-dnWHTCbf...@comcast.com...
>>> "The Bitterly Succinct Mr. Hole" <holef...@webtv.net> wrote in
>>> message news:25282-423...@storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net...
>>>> Hey, how come Fembot, and What's-his-face don't get a Cylon car?
>>>> Their little strolls on Caprica(sp) while showing off beautiful
>>>> Vancouver B.C. don't seem very productive, yes?
>>>> If this issue with BSG has been brought up in the past few weeks I
>>>> apologize you see I am much too busy taking naps waiting for Captain
>>>> Infinity to show up in said naps for me to actually read all the post
>>>> made about the show.
>>>> Mr. Hole
>>>> The favor of your reply is requested.
>>>> http://icasualties.org/oif/
>>>> Incontinence 2005: Its not just for Grandma any more!
>>>> "You would make a destructive god, Mr. Hole, but as a human, you remain
>>>> pathetic and ineffectual." -- Heck
> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:rRr_d.6286$uk7.212@fed1read01...
>>> The tall blond woman Cylon, I believe she is "6", is in reality off the
>>> BSG set, a top notch Runway Model. The producers want to show off her
>>> best qualities. She seems to be holding up her end in the acting
>>> department too, although this is a rather one dimensional role.
>>> Politics
>> She's actually better when she's covered up. The scenes when Six is not
>> suppose to be oozing sex appeal have all been better, whether she's
>> staring in awe at a newborn baby, just before snapping its neck, to spare
>> it the upcoming holocaust; as Sheila Godfrey trying to frame Baltar, or
>> on Caprica noting how ... alive ... humans are even if it costs them-er,
>> us, so much when we experience major loss.
>> -- Ken from Chicago (who only took a few years to recover from the demise
>> of the Amiga computer, and CBM's betrayal of it, scumbags!)
>
> Was Sheila Godfrey actually a Cylon when tested by Baltar or not ?
>
> Politics
>
>
>
>
She wasn't tested. The test wasn't ready then.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
My Dad's from Fortworth, altho it's now Dallas-Fortworth, slowly becoming
Dallas. You can get a Tex-Mex, chilli, burger and steak. My Mom's from a
small town in Louisiana two hours east of New Orleans (mmm, great gumbo).
I'm born and raised Chicagoan. It's way too hot in the South during the
summer.
-- Ken from Chicago
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<cmn-n...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>If all else fails there is Katz's, a 24-hour deli in Houston that
>brings a piece of the Snow Belt to the civilized world. It's run by a
>couple of guys from that big city back east that's has a state named
>after it.
Jason's Deli is every bit as good as Katz's and they have several
locations throughout Houston.
John Shocked
news:220320051843092054%sky....@moonbase.alpha...
> In article <424066ac...@news-server.houston.rr.com>, Sweet Ol'
> Bob (SOB) <s...@sob.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:14:01 -0800, "John Shocked"
>> <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >A supermodel making it in the acting business.
>> What cave have you been living in for the past several years.
>> Ever hear of supermodel Jolene Blalock?
>> Geez, are you one dumbass sombitch.
> Bzzt. Sorry, wrong answer. Blalock was a model, but never a supermodel.
> That is a category reserved for the most successful models who become
> household names, like Cheryl Tiegs, Carol Alt, Elle McPherson, Cindy
> Crawford, Christie Brinkley, Jill Goodacre and Tyra Banks. Outside of
> the Enterprise crowd, I think you'd find that Blalock was never in high
> demand as a model. Before Enterprise, basically nobody in the general
> public had ever heard of her.
I take it you are not referring to the Starship Enterprise...
Politics
GM
yjk...@gmail.com says...
else. just be sure to purchase this year's colors or everyone will know
what you're up to. btw the blue light doesn't really mean there's a
pricing special, it means the timer has started on one of the nukes.
ANIM8Rfsk
sky....@moonbase.alpha wrote on 3/22/05 4:43 PM:
> In article <424066ac...@news-server.houston.rr.com>, Sweet Ol'
> Bob (SOB) <s...@sob.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:14:01 -0800, "John Shocked"
>> <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A supermodel making it in the acting business.
>>
>> What cave have you been living in for the past several years.
>>
>> Ever hear of supermodel Jolene Blalock?
>>
>> Geez, are you one dumbass sombitch.
>
> Bzzt. Sorry, wrong answer. Blalock was a model, but never a supermodel.
> That is a category reserved for the most successful models who become
> household names, like Cheryl Tiegs, Carol Alt, Elle McPherson, Cindy
> Crawford, Christie Brinkley, Jill Goodacre and Tyra Banks. Outside of
> the Enterprise crowd, I think you'd find that Blalock was never in high
> demand as a model. Before Enterprise, basically nobody in the general
> public had ever heard of her.
And quite likely after Enterprise as well.
IIRC, Carol Alt was the original 'supermodel' -- the one the term was coined
for.
Good list, btw.
Ken from Chicago
I stand corrected.
-- Ken from Chicago
John Shocked
news:424066ac...@news-server.houston.rr.com...
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:14:01 -0800, "John Shocked"
> <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>A supermodel making it in the acting business.
> What cave have you been living in for the past several years.
> Ever hear of supermodel Jolene Blalock?
> Geez, are you one dumbass sombitch.
Never heard of her. Who is that ? Supermodel, southern style ?
Politics
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>It's way too hot in the South during the summer.
That's what air conditioning is for.
At least you don't have to shovel snow.
Anyway, I was in Chicago one summer and it was hotter that Hell in
August.
John Shocked
GM
says...
decades; many urban US secondary schools are just content to insure that
their students can read and understand "STOP", "YEILD", & "55 MPH".
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>A supermodel making it in the acting business.
What cave have you been living in for the past several years.
Ever hear of supermodel Jolene Blalock?
Geez, are you one dumbass sombitch.
Chad Irby
"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:8L-dnWHTCbf...@comcast.com...>
> > She's actually better when she's covered up. The scenes when Six is not
> > suppose to be oozing sex appeal have all been better, whether she's
> > staring in awe at a newborn baby, just before snapping its neck, to spare
> > it the upcoming holocaust; as Sheila Godfrey trying to frame Baltar, or on
> > Caprica noting how ... alive ... humans are even if it costs them-er, us,
> > so much when we experience major loss.
> > -- Ken from Chicago (who only took a few years to recover from the demise
> > of the Amiga computer, and CBM's betrayal of it, scumbags!)
>
> A supermodel making it in the acting business. This might be a first. I
> think Schiffer had a few movies but I have not seen much. Tyra Banks had
> some success briefly. Of course, it could be that she is just like "6" all
> the time and is not acting at all.
Rebecca Romijn isn't doing too bad, either.
Outrider
>
>>> My Dad's from Fortworth, altho it's now Dallas-Fortworth, slowly
>>> becoming
>>> Dallas. You can get a Tex-Mex, chilli, burger and steak. My Mom's from a
>>> small town in Louisiana two hours east of New Orleans (mmm, great
>>> gumbo).
>>> I'm born and raised Chicagoan. It's way too hot in the South during the
>>> summer.
>>>
>> On the other hand, hardly anybody ever dies shoveling
>> two feet of "too hot" off their driveway so they can get the car out.
>
> More likely to die heat stroke / exhaustion.
>
> Dirty lil secret, Chicago hasn't had two feet of snow since the 1970s.
>
> Chicago has the MOST MODERATE weather in the country.
>
> We don't get the several FEET of snow like Wisconsin, Michigan, Montana,
> or upstate New York. At worst we get half a foot, maybe eight or nine
> inches of snow. Snow *drift* can be a few feet, but that's far, far
> different from several feet of FALLING snow.
>
> We don't get the hurricanes that they get in the East.
>
> We don't get the floods, months of triple-digit heat AND the humidity of
> the South. At worst we get a HANDFUL of days that crack the 100-degree
> barrier, but mostly we've been getting only a few weeks of
> 90something-degree days.
>
> We certainly don't get triple-digit heat of the West, even if it's a "dry
> heat", that can still melt dashboard in the summer Sun, nor the
> earthquakes, mudslides, forest fires, avalanches or the El Nino or La Nina
> summer winds.
>
> And in the city and collar suburbs, we don't get the tornadoes that
> afflict the open plains of the Midwest.
I used to work in the economic development department and we found that
Chicago has fewer lost work days due to weather than most sun belt cities
like Dallas. If Chicago gets snow its prepared for it. If Dallas gets ice
or snow they just shut down the city.
>
>> There are dozens of different kinds of chiles besides jalapeños, that
>> make the variety of Mexican cooking. Broaden your horizon beyond the
>> number 1 special plate, and there are amazing things to be found.
>> The variety of tamales or moles alone is enough to keep you entertained
>> for years.
There is a joke about a guy asking about the menue in the mexican
restaurant.
What's a taco, flour tortilla with meat cheese and vegetables;
what's a burrito, a flour tortilla with meat cheese and vegetables;
what's a tostada, a flour tortilla with meat cheese and vegetables.
Forget it, there are too many choices. ;-)
ANIM8Rfsk
cmn-n...@houston.rr.com wrote on 3/22/05 6:21 AM:
> On the other hand, hardly anybody ever dies shoveling
> two feet of "too hot" off their driveway so they can get the car out.
They would if they tried to though!
John Shocked
> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:rRr_d.6286$uk7.212@fed1read01...
>> The tall blond woman Cylon, I believe she is "6", is in reality off the
>> BSG set, a top notch Runway Model. The producers want to show off her
>> best qualities. She seems to be holding up her end in the acting
>> department too, although this is a rather one dimensional role.
>> Politics
>> "The Bitterly Succinct Mr. Hole" <holef...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> news:25282-423...@storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net...
>>> Hey, how come Fembot, and What's-his-face don't get a Cylon car?
>>> Their little strolls on Caprica(sp) while showing off beautiful
>>> Vancouver B.C. don't seem very productive, yes?
>>> If this issue with BSG has been brought up in the past few weeks I
>>> apologize you see I am much too busy taking naps waiting for Captain
>>> Infinity to show up in said naps for me to actually read all the post
>>> made about the show.
>>> Mr. Hole
>>> The favor of your reply is requested.
>>> http://icasualties.org/oif/
>>> Incontinence 2005: Its not just for Grandma any more!
>>> "You would make a destructive god, Mr. Hole, but as a human, you remain
>>> pathetic and ineffectual." -- Heck
>
> suppose to be oozing sex appeal have all been better, whether she's
> staring in awe at a newborn baby, just before snapping its neck, to spare
> it the upcoming holocaust; as Sheila Godfrey trying to frame Baltar, or on
> Caprica noting how ... alive ... humans are even if it costs them-er, us,
> so much when we experience major loss.
> -- Ken from Chicago (who only took a few years to recover from the demise
> of the Amiga computer, and CBM's betrayal of it, scumbags!)
A supermodel making it in the acting business. This might be a first. I
think Schiffer had a few movies but I have not seen much. Tyra Banks had
some success briefly. Of course, it could be that she is just like "6" all
the time and is not acting at all.
Politics
John Shocked
news:cirby-51ED7C....@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com...
Sounds like Supermodels are catching on. Eye candy to attract guys that the
Hollywood Homosexuals can then target for sale of Sodomy advertising.
However, since I have not seen the X-Men movies I cannot say at this moment
exactly what the sodomy content of that movie was.
Politics
Mark Nobles
> "Outrider" <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote
> >> "Outrider" <curtm...@donotspamsatx.rr.com> wrote
> >>>
> > SNIP
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless it's a VIRUS that CREATES a BACK DOOR.
> >>>>
> >>> <SLAP> Smart Ass :-)
> >>
> >> Better than being dumb.
> >>
> >>> Outrider
> >>>
> >>> By the way, what part of Chicago?
> >>
> >> Oak Park.
> >>
> > Ah. Before I moved to Texas home was a little further west of you in
> > Lombard. Don't move to Texas, especial south Texas. You can't get a
> > decent pizza, hot dog, gyros, or Italian beef to save your sole. If it
> > doesn't have Jalapeños on it down here they don't know your supposed to
> > eat it. They do have nice smoked beef brisket though, but its not quite
> > the same :-)
> >
> > Outrider
> > (who would kill for a trip to Uno's downtown.)
>
> My Dad's from Fortworth, altho it's now Dallas-Fortworth, slowly becoming
> Dallas. You can get a Tex-Mex, chilli, burger and steak. My Mom's from a
> small town in Louisiana two hours east of New Orleans (mmm, great gumbo).
> I'm born and raised Chicagoan. It's way too hot in the South during the
> summer.
>
On the other hand, hardly anybody ever dies shoveling
two feet of "too hot" off their driveway so they can get the car out.
There are dozens of different kinds of chiles besides jalapeños, that
make the variety of Mexican cooking. Broaden your horizon beyond the
number 1 special plate, and there are amazing things to be found.
The variety of tamales or moles alone is enough to keep you entertained
for years.
If all else fails there is Katz's, a 24-hour deli in Houston that
brings a piece of the Snow Belt to the civilized world. It's run by a
couple of guys from that big city back east that's has a state named
after it.
--
No, I'm not looking at you, Florida City.
John Shocked
> In article <cirby-51ED7C....@news-server2.tampabay.rr.com>,
> few roles in movies. Getting a regular role in a successful series is
> much more difficult than the occasional movie or guest star role.
> Romijn barely gets any lines in the X-Men movies. She's there basically
> as a near-nude body, not an actor. She doesn't even do fight scenes,
> having a Mystique stunt double for that. Arguably, Iman preceded her as
> a supermodel/actor and had more lines in Star Trek VI than Romijn did
> in either X-movie.
Was Grace Jones a Supermodel ? She had some elaborate roles.
Politics
Ken from Chicago
More likely to die heat stroke / exhaustion.
Dirty lil secret, Chicago hasn't had two feet of snow since the 1970s.
Chicago has the MOST MODERATE weather in the country.
We don't get the several FEET of snow like Wisconsin, Michigan, Montana, or
upstate New York. At worst we get half a foot, maybe eight or nine inches of
snow. Snow *drift* can be a few feet, but that's far, far different from
several feet of FALLING snow.
We don't get the hurricanes that they get in the East.
We don't get the floods, months of triple-digit heat AND the humidity of the
South. At worst we get a HANDFUL of days that crack the 100-degree barrier,
but mostly we've been getting only a few weeks of 90something-degree days.
We certainly don't get triple-digit heat of the West, even if it's a "dry
heat", that can still melt dashboard in the summer Sun, nor the earthquakes,
mudslides, forest fires, avalanches or the El Nino or La Nina summer winds.
And in the city and collar suburbs, we don't get the tornadoes that afflict
the open plains of the Midwest.
> There are dozens of different kinds of chiles besides jalapeños, that
> make the variety of Mexican cooking. Broaden your horizon beyond the
> number 1 special plate, and there are amazing things to be found.
> The variety of tamales or moles alone is enough to keep you entertained
> for years.
>
> If all else fails there is Katz's, a 24-hour deli in Houston that
> brings a piece of the Snow Belt to the civilized world. It's run by a
> couple of guys from that big city back east that's has a state named
> after it.
You'd think they'd could be more creative in coming up with a DIFFERENT
names for city and state. Well, at least they have a nice statue with a keen
night-light built in. >=^> And keeping the Trumpster out of the hair of the
rest of the country for most of the year.
> --
> No, I'm not looking at you, Florida City.
Florida City? Is that in Cuba North or Disney State?
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
Ever since Mayor Bilandic got booted out for his lax response to the
blizzard of '79, every mayor since has had a fleet of snow plows at the
first flake of snow.
Altho to be fair, a few years back, we got a summer with a rash of upper
90-degree days, and several hundred people died of heat exhaustion.
But what's with Texas and Florida STEALING weather from the North??
>>> There are dozens of different kinds of chiles besides jalapeños, that
>>> make the variety of Mexican cooking. Broaden your horizon beyond the
>>> number 1 special plate, and there are amazing things to be found.
>>> The variety of tamales or moles alone is enough to keep you entertained
>>> for years.
>
> There is a joke about a guy asking about the menue in the mexican
> restaurant.
> What's a taco, flour tortilla with meat cheese and vegetables;
> what's a burrito, a flour tortilla with meat cheese and vegetables;
> what's a tostada, a flour tortilla with meat cheese and vegetables.
> Forget it, there are too many choices. ;-)
There's a stand-up comedian who noted Italian cuisine is basically pasta and
meat with the various "varieties" made to fool the Americans--and that the
Italians told Mexicans about it.
-- Ken from Chicago
Lady Chatterly
Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Ever since Mayor Bilandic got booted out for his lax response to the
>blizzard of '79, every mayor since has had a fleet of snow plows at the
>first flake of snow.
It seems he would rather spend his time wasting ours.
>Altho to be fair, a few years back, we got a summer with a rash of upper
>90-degree days, and several hundred people died of heat exhaustion.
Parsing your gibberish is like taking a crash course in Steganography.
Although I suppose it can be a fun exercise in futility for some ...
>But what's with Texas and Florida STEALING weather from the North??
This is a good thing, and I Will not be a hassle?
>There's a stand-up comedian who noted Italian cuisine is basically pasta and
>meat with the various "varieties" made to fool the Americans--and that the
>Italians told Mexicans about it.
End of the internet.
>-- Ken from Chicago
She's been brain dead for awhile. You're just witnessing her imitate
the proverbial chicken dance.
--
Lady Chatterly
"Getting your ass kicked again I see. Lady C is quickly becomeing my
hero." -- Yomamma bin Crawdaddin
ANIM8Rfsk
sky....@moonbase.alpha wrote on 3/22/05 9:06 PM:
> In article <BE660B62.29261%ANIM...@cox.net>, ANIM8Rfsk
> <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> IIRC, Carol Alt was the original 'supermodel' -- the one the term was coined
>> for.
>
> I always thought it was coined for Cheryl Tiegs, ever since that
> amazing pink bikini poster in the 70s. If it was created for Carol, I
> wouldn't mind. They were two of the most stunning women I've ever laid
> eyes on.
Agreed. I think Cheryl's claim to fame was more her longevity; it was
shocking at the time that she was still working at the advanced age of 30!
William December Starr
Straker <sky....@moonbase.alpha> said:
>> Was Grace Jones a Supermodel ? She had some elaborate roles.
>
> Some modeling experience, but not a major success. Too "butch" for
> the American market.
Or possibly just too flat-out weird.
--
William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>We don't get the hurricanes that they get in the East.
East? Uh, most hurricanes occur along the Gulf Coast.
>And in the city and collar suburbs, we don't get the tornadoes that afflict
>the open plains of the Midwest.
Yeah, but the people in Chicago are as obnoxious as New Yawkers.
And you can't own guns for personal protection.
And the entire place is controlled by the Mob.
You can have it. Houston is the best place to live.
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
>reading for content has become a forgotten goal during the last few
>decades; many urban US secondary schools are just content to insure that
>their students can read and understand "STOP", "YEILD", & "55 MPH".
And they make sure students learn to spell too.
Ken from Chicago
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:17:29 -0500, GM <m...@here.com> wrote:
>
>>reading for content has become a forgotten goal during the last few
>>decades; many urban US secondary schools are just content to insure that
>>their students can read and understand "STOP", "YEILD", & "55 MPH".
>
> And they make sure students learn to spell too.
Ah, butt they donut all ways make sure that stew dents kin spell write.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Lady Chatterly" <not...@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message
news:f85d544....@dev.null...
> In article <t_qdnRCMaOs...@comcast.com>
> Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Ever since Mayor Bilandic got booted out for his lax response to the
>>blizzard of '79, every mayor since has had a fleet of snow plows at the
>>first flake of snow.
>
> It seems he would rather spend his time wasting ours.
>
>>Altho to be fair, a few years back, we got a summer with a rash of upper
>>90-degree days, and several hundred people died of heat exhaustion.
>
> Parsing your gibberish is like taking a crash course in Steganography.
> Although I suppose it can be a fun exercise in futility for some ...
Although to be fair, a few years back we had a summer when for several weeks
the outside temperature reached the upper 90s Farenheit. Several hundred
people died of heat exhaustion or "heat-related" causes.
>>But what's with Texas and Florida STEALING weather from the North??
>
> This is a good thing, and I Will not be a hassle?
>
>>There's a stand-up comedian who noted Italian cuisine is basically pasta
>>and
>>meat with the various "varieties" made to fool the Americans--and that the
>>Italians told Mexicans about it.
>
> End of the internet.
The advent of the internet means more humor can be more easily spread more
widely.
>>-- Ken from Chicago
>
> She's been brain dead for awhile. You're just witnessing her imitate
> the proverbial chicken dance.
>
> --
> Lady Chatterly
>
> "Getting your ass kicked again I see. Lady C is quickly becomeing my
> hero." -- Yomamma bin Crawdaddin
>
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:59:30 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
> <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>We don't get the hurricanes that they get in the East.
>
> East? Uh, most hurricanes occur along the Gulf Coast.
Hurricanes, or their baby siblings, tropical storms batter up and down the
East coast. When hurricanes miss Florida, true, they often go further west
and hit southern states such as Alabama, Mississippi or Louisiana. However
sometimes hurricanes head north and hit Georgia, the Carolinas even New York
(altho often they've lost steam and are "only" tropical storms).
>>And in the city and collar suburbs, we don't get the tornadoes that
>>afflict
>>the open plains of the Midwest.
>
> Yeah, but the people in Chicago are as obnoxious as New Yawkers.
NO ONE is as obnoxious as New Yawkers (altho reportedly citizens of Beverly
Hills and Paris might do so). But it's not there fault, it's so rough and
tumble, they wear their obxiousness as body armor. It's the only way they
can "make it there".
> And you can't own guns for personal protection.
As Mr. Mackey says, "Guns are baaaad." If you want guns, you go downstate.
> And the entire place is controlled by the Mob.
That's just Cicero, Capone's hometown.
> You can have it. Houston is the best place to live.
Too hot. When it's cold, you can always put on more clothes. When it's too
hot you just suffer. And you can't be in air conditioning all the time.
Besides, we get to have all four, Spring, Summer, Fall (with the changing of
the leaves from green to oranges and reds) and Winter (with actual snow, as
EVIL as Commuter Snow is), not merely Death Valley heat to wind-breaker
days.
-- Ken from Chicago
John Shocked
> In article <P730e.375$Mt5.76@fed1read01>, John Shocked
> American market.
Could be that she took on that aura of Supermodel because she played one in
the Eddie Murphy movie, which I think was called Boomerang. She was mainly
a musician.
Politics
ANIM8Rfsk
wds...@panix.com wrote on 3/22/05 11:43 PM:
> In article <220320052309020257%sky....@moonbase.alpha>,
> Straker <sky....@moonbase.alpha> said:
>
>>> Was Grace Jones a Supermodel ? She had some elaborate roles.
>>
>> Some modeling experience, but not a major success. Too "butch" for
>> the American market.
>
> Or possibly just too flat-out weird.
And we kept seeing her naked, and just didn't want to.
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> End of the internet.
>The advent of the internet means more humor can be more easily spread more
>widely.
By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with
the ignorance of the community.
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hurricanes, or their baby siblings, tropical storms batter up and down the
>East coast. When hurricanes miss Florida, true, they often go further west
>and hit southern states such as Alabama, Mississippi or Louisiana.
I can tell you from direct personal experience that they also go even
farther (sic) west and hit Texas and even Mexico.
>However
>sometimes hurricanes head north and hit Georgia, the Carolinas even New York
>(altho often they've lost steam and are "only" tropical storms).
There is a good reason for that: El Nino. It keeps hurricanes out of
the extreme western Gulf. although you would not know that from the
hits on Louisiana a couple years ago.
>NO ONE is as obnoxious as New Yawkers (altho reportedly citizens of Beverly
>Hills and Paris might do so). But it's not there fault, it's so rough and
>tumble, they wear their obxiousness as body armor. It's the only way they
>can "make it there".
Self fulfilling condition.
>> And you can't own guns for personal protection.
>
>As Mr. Mackey says, "Guns are baaaad." If you want guns, you go downstate.
As the NRA says, "Guns Save Lives". I suppose that Mackey doesn't care
about people becoming unnecessary victims of violent crime. He must
not want his buddies to get hurt.
>Too hot. When it's cold, you can always put on more clothes. When it's too
>hot you just suffer. And you can't be in air conditioning all the time.
Wanna bet? You go from your air conditioned house to your air
conditioned car to your air conditioned office to air conditioned
restaurants to air conditioned stores back to your air conditioned
house.
Houston has the highest amount of air conditioning per capita than
anywhere else in the world.
>Besides, we get to have all four, Spring, Summer, Fall (with the changing of
>the leaves from green to oranges and reds) and Winter (with actual snow, as
>EVIL as Commuter Snow is), not merely Death Valley heat to wind-breaker
>days.
We have Four Seasons too: December, January, February and Summer.
BTW, I grew up in St. Louis, so I know all about Midwest weather.
Richard L Hamer
"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" wrote:
>
> You can have it. Houston is the best place to live.
>
Only if you can't get to Dallas.
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<rlh...@raytheon.com> wrote:
>> You can have it. Houston is the best place to live.
>Only if you can't get to Dallas.
Dallas is nice but it is hotter than Houston (we get the Gulf Breeze
which is cooler than stagnant air). It's also considerably cheaper to
live here. Plus, we aren't as close to Oklahoma.
Ken from Chicago
<snip>
>>Too hot. When it's cold, you can always put on more clothes. When it's too
>>hot you just suffer. And you can't be in air conditioning all the time.
>
> Wanna bet? You go from your air conditioned house to your air
> conditioned car to your air conditioned office to air conditioned
> restaurants to air conditioned stores back to your air conditioned
> house.
>
> Houston has the highest amount of air conditioning per capita than
> anywhere else in the world.
But a/c can break down and not everyone can afford it. I grew up without a/c
and just learned to sweat it out. Now that I can afford a/c, I'm not going
back, but not going where I need half the year. My mom went back down South
to 'Weezianna' and she's welcome to it. Too hot--and humid--for me.
>>Besides, we get to have all four, Spring, Summer, Fall (with the changing
>>of
>>the leaves from green to oranges and reds) and Winter (with actual snow,
>>as
>>EVIL as Commuter Snow is), not merely Death Valley heat to wind-breaker
>>days.
>
> We have Four Seasons too: December, January, February and Summer.
LOL!
> BTW, I grew up in St. Louis, so I know all about Midwest weather.
Ah, but St. Louis aint Chicago. Chicago is the third largest city in the
country. It generates a GINORMOUS amount of heat which creates a MAJOR
updraft. Pilots have to adjust their planes when flying over the city
proper. That updraft creates a massive air buffer that keeps up the
tornadoes which go to the areas of least resistance, thus we have protection
is THE major weather hazard of the Midwest. People THINK it's snow, but you
can dress for snow. You can't dress for a tornado.
And speaking of cold weather, Lake Michigan also moderates the effect of the
winter and summer by keeping the temperatures from getting too extreme
(altho it has limits). Out in the plains, the land can get real cold or real
hot and LOCK in that way, magnifying the temperature extremes while the lake
can much more quickly change temperature and propagate that temperature
change as wind blows in off the lake.
-- Meteorological Ken from Chicago
P.S. Moreover a lot of people talk about how bad Chicago winters are, but
many of them are thinking about winters of 20 years or more ago, from the
1980s earlier. The winters have been a lot milder in comparison in the past
decade or so.
Ken from Chicago
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:49:02 -0600, Richard L Hamer
> <rlh...@raytheon.com> wrote:
>
>>> You can have it. Houston is the best place to live.
>
>>Only if you can't get to Dallas.
>
> Dallas is nice but it is hotter than Houston (we get the Gulf Breeze
> which is cooler than stagnant air). It's also considerably cheaper to
> live here. Plus, we aren't as close to Oklahoma.
What's with that beltway around Dallas?! Sheesh, it's like frelling roller
coaster, with all the locals going by at 70-80 mph! Good grief! It's insane!
-- Ken from Chicago
Nightspirit
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get out of your car.
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kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
today!
Exhibitionist
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>-- Ken from Chicago (who only took a few years to recover from the demise of
>the Amiga computer, and CBM's betrayal of it, scumbags!)
>
Well... feeling a little bitter, are we? Why mourn a computer that
worked? Bill the Great has given us all an OS that mints money for
him, and that IS what's important, isn't it?
You really aren't taking the long view, you know. ;-)
Ryan
> Ah, but St. Louis aint Chicago. Chicago is the third largest city in the
> country. It generates a GINORMOUS amount of heat which creates a MAJOR
> updraft. Pilots have to adjust their planes when flying over the city
> proper. That updraft creates a massive air buffer that keeps up the
> tornadoes which go to the areas of least resistance, thus we have protection
> is THE major weather hazard of the Midwest. People THINK it's snow, but you
> can dress for snow. You can't dress for a tornado.
We had a tornado in Milwaukee a couple years ago. Freaked everyone
out, because we all thought we were immune in the city... And we
generally are, except for those unlucky enought o live near the GIANT
open space that is General William Mitchell International Airport...
>
> And speaking of cold weather, Lake Michigan also moderates the effect of the
> winter and summer by keeping the temperatures from getting too extreme
> (altho it has limits). Out in the plains, the land can get real cold or real
> hot and LOCK in that way, magnifying the temperature extremes while the lake
> can much more quickly change temperature and propagate that temperature
> change as wind blows in off the lake.
Ahh yes... being on the radio, I love giving the forecast and adding
"Cooler near the lake" in the summer.
> P.S. Moreover a lot of people talk about how bad Chicago winters are, but
> many of them are thinking about winters of 20 years or more ago, from the
> 1980s earlier. The winters have been a lot milder in comparison in the past
> decade or so.
I can actually tell my kids "When I was your age, we had to walk
through snow EVERY day, all winter long!" and its not just a story!
These days we get 2 or maybe 3 snow days a year here in Milwaukee.
Schools are closed mor eoften because boilers break on cold days than
anything else.
Ryan
> Well... feeling a little bitter, are we? Why mourn a computer that
> worked? Bill the Great has given us all an OS that mints money for
> him, and that IS what's important, isn't it?
> You really aren't taking the long view, you know. ;-)
Shhh... people will think you're one of those folks from
c.s.amiga.advocacy!
John Shocked
news:BE660B62.29261%ANIM...@cox.net...
> in article 220320051843092054%sky....@moonbase.alpha, Straker at
> sky....@moonbase.alpha wrote on 3/22/05 4:43 PM:
>> In article <424066ac...@news-server.houston.rr.com>, Sweet Ol'
>> Bob (SOB) <s...@sob.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:14:01 -0800, "John Shocked"
>>> <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> A supermodel making it in the acting business.
>>> What cave have you been living in for the past several years.
>>> Ever hear of supermodel Jolene Blalock?
>>> Geez, are you one dumbass sombitch.
>> Bzzt. Sorry, wrong answer. Blalock was a model, but never a supermodel.
>> That is a category reserved for the most successful models who become
>> household names, like Cheryl Tiegs, Carol Alt, Elle McPherson, Cindy
>> Crawford, Christie Brinkley, Jill Goodacre and Tyra Banks. Outside of
>> the Enterprise crowd, I think you'd find that Blalock was never in high
>> demand as a model. Before Enterprise, basically nobody in the general
>> public had ever heard of her.
> And quite likely after Enterprise as well.
> IIRC, Carol Alt was the original 'supermodel' -- the one the term was
> coined for.
I never heard of Jill Goodacre. Lauren Hutton was the Queen of Models for a
while I thought. They made a movie about a model named Gia Carangi, though
she had some homosexuality in her life which was portrayed in the HBO
(homosexual dominated US premium cable tv channel) movie, so it could be
Gia's significance was exaggerated by Hollywood Homosexuals.
[Right here is one of those big problems with Hollywood Homosexual dominance
over the media --
when you hear hype about something or someone, you first have to check if it
1) promotes homosexuality,
2) promotes anti-Arab hatred and thus murder of Arabs in the Middle East.
If it passes those two tests, then maybe you can take the hype seriously.]
I never thought Carol Alt was top model. I just remember hearing about her
when she was moving into movies.
Politics
Tony Calguire
>
>
> Ah, but St. Louis aint Chicago. Chicago is the third largest city in the
> country. It generates a GINORMOUS amount of heat which creates a MAJOR
> updraft. Pilots have to adjust their planes when flying over the city
> proper. That updraft creates a massive air buffer that keeps up the
> tornadoes which go to the areas of least resistance, thus we have protection
> is THE major weather hazard of the Midwest. People THINK it's snow, but you
> can dress for snow. You can't dress for a tornado.
>
The urban heat island, as a tornado shield, is a myth. Salt Lake City
and Nashville got theirs... it's only a matter of time until the loop
gets hit.
Ken from Chicago
"Tony Calguire" <calg...@tcfreenet.invalid> wrote in message
news:424263...@tcfreenet.invalid...
But they are a lot smaller. As of 2000, Salt Lake City had a population of
180,000 and Nashville had 550,000 while Chicago had 2,900,000.
The two larger cities, Los Angeles and New York City, are both on the coast,
so they are overwhelmed meteorology of the ocean.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Exhibitionist" <ja...@jj.com> wrote in message
news:ih9441t2k93nmpn4a...@4ax.com...
I'm sorry. You're right. I failed to see the IMPORTANT issue:
How does it affect GATES?
Thanks for setting me straight.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Ryan" <rpa...@delete.this.part.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:S6q0e.13226$gx3....@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
They're still around?!?!
-- Ken from Chicago
Ryan
>> Shhh... people will think you're one of those folks from
>>c.s.amiga.advocacy!
Oh yes... and its hiarious to read. You have 3 or 4 regular trolls
(some pro-Amiga, some anti) who pretty much spend their time baiting
each other into flame wars.
William December Starr
"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> said:
> I never heard of Jill Goodacre. Lauren Hutton was the Queen of
> Models for a while I thought. They made a movie about a model
> named Gia Carangi, though she had some homosexuality in her life
> which was portrayed in the HBO (homosexual dominated US premium
> cable tv channel) movie, so it could be Gia's significance was
> exaggerated by Hollywood Homosexuals.
(1) You're an idiot.
(2) Go away.
(3) *plonk*
Chastity Blackwell
>"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <s...@sob.com> wrote in message
>> <rlh...@raytheon.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You can have it. Houston is the best place to live.
>>
>>>Only if you can't get to Dallas.
>>
>> Dallas is nice but it is hotter than Houston (we get the Gulf Breeze
>> which is cooler than stagnant air). It's also considerably cheaper to
>> live here. Plus, we aren't as close to Oklahoma.
>What's with that beltway around Dallas?! Sheesh, it's like frelling roller
>coaster, with all the locals going by at 70-80 mph! Good grief! It's insane!
You know, every time I drive on the Dan Ryan, I end up either going about
75 or 5 mph. :) I don't think that is unique to Dallas. :)
--
Chas Blackwell <Black Isis> CITES Systems Management Group
<cblk...@uiuc.edu>
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for, so I don't speak for them.
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Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>What's with that beltway around Dallas?! Sheesh, it's like frelling roller
>coaster, with all the locals going by at 70-80 mph! Good grief! It's insane!
You call the Dan Ryan sane?
<Geez>
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Houston has the highest amount of air conditioning per capita than
>> anywhere else in the world.
>But a/c can break down
You get it fixed immediately or everything in your house will mildew.
> and not everyone can afford it.
They are used to the humidity.
I grew up in the 1940s and 1950s in the St. Louis area which was one
of the most miserable places to live in the entire US. The summers
were 100% RH with an ambient high of 110F in the shade. The winters
were -20F with 50 mph gales. I froze my fingers and feet every winter
I lived there. That place is living Hell.
>I grew up without a/c
>and just learned to sweat it out.
So did I. We didn't get a/c until 1958 and then only a single window
unit for an entire house.
>Now that I can afford a/c, I'm not going
>back, but not going where I need half the year.
Go to the Texas Panhandle, like Amarillo. The year round climate is
rather dry.
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
Starr) wrote:
>> I never heard of Jill Goodacre. Lauren Hutton was the Queen of
>> Models for a while I thought. They made a movie about a model
>> named Gia Carangi, though she had some homosexuality in her life
>> which was portrayed in the HBO (homosexual dominated US premium
>> cable tv channel) movie, so it could be Gia's significance was
>> exaggerated by Hollywood Homosexuals.
>(1) You're an idiot.
You are the idiot.
>(2) Go away.
You go away.
>(3) *plonk*
How juvenile.
Good riddance.
Now stay plonked so we don't have to listen to you anymore.
Fucking leftist queers.
Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)
(Chastity Blackwell) wrote:
>You know, every time I drive on the Dan Ryan, I end up either going about
>75 or 5 mph. :) I don't think that is unique to Dallas. :)
It's the same on the Katy Freeway in Houston.
Mark Nobles
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:45:44 +0000 (UTC), cblk...@tower.cso.uiuc.edu
> (Chastity Blackwell) wrote:
>
> >You know, every time I drive on the Dan Ryan, I end up either going about
> >75 or 5 mph. :) I don't think that is unique to Dallas. :)
>
> It's the same on the Katy Freeway in Houston.
Really? Cause I've never gotten over 40 until out past Highway 6. Then
they start flying. The cars are just stacked too deep from 45 to the
loop.