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Gator Golf
Nov 26, 2022, 9:53:14 PM11/26/22
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Every day roughly 1.9 million trees — enough to cover about 45 Sydney
Opera Houses — are cut down to make traditional toilet paper out of virgin
wood pulp, according to a new report which looked into how consumer
choices can impact the environment.
More than 60 per cent of people recently surveyed across Australia, the
United Kingdom and United States were unaware of how their choice in
toilet paper contributes to global deforestation, the Toilet Paper
Environmental Sustainability Report found.
It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, adding up to 42
million tonnes worldwide. And that's leading to the loss of 700 million
trees annually, the data found.
<https://www.9news.com.au/world/earth-day-2022-toilet-paper-found-to-
contribute-to-mass-deforestation-data-reveals/a6b0763b-54a6-4f66-8a21-
8b3fbad064b2>
Opera Houses — are cut down to make traditional toilet paper out of virgin
wood pulp, according to a new report which looked into how consumer
choices can impact the environment.
More than 60 per cent of people recently surveyed across Australia, the
United Kingdom and United States were unaware of how their choice in
toilet paper contributes to global deforestation, the Toilet Paper
Environmental Sustainability Report found.
It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, adding up to 42
million tonnes worldwide. And that's leading to the loss of 700 million
trees annually, the data found.
<https://www.9news.com.au/world/earth-day-2022-toilet-paper-found-to-
contribute-to-mass-deforestation-data-reveals/a6b0763b-54a6-4f66-8a21-
8b3fbad064b2>
David Hartung
Nov 27, 2022, 5:23:30 AM11/27/22
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[...]
3. U.S. made paper comes mostly from private working forests that
support 2.4 million jobs and $99 billion in payroll.
A second NAFO report on “The Economic Impact of Privately-Owned Forests
in the United States” reports that public and private timberlands are
responsible for employing 2.8 million people, who received payroll in
the amount of $102 billion. Private timberland makes up 73% of the
timberland base in 32 states, but it is responsible for more than 85% of
the economic contribution.
[...]
Tell me again about how paper causes deforestation.
chrisv
Nov 27, 2022, 7:41:25 AM11/27/22
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toilet paper is, compared to "regular" toilet paper.
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
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BeamMeUpScotty
Nov 27, 2022, 8:21:00 AM11/27/22
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and replanted woodlands... it keeps the land from being cut down and
turned into GOLF COURSES and TRACT HOMES And smaller land owners also
plant trees for paper to get a tax break on the use of the land since
planting those trees for paper gets you a lower property tax than just
simply leaving the land empty and/or barren which would mean you pay a
higher land tax to hold empty land.
The toilet paper "tax break" is a GREEN and SUSTAINABLE way to use the
land to decrease CO2 and increase clean Oxygen at the same time. And
with 8 Billion people, getting rid of CO2 is only half the equation, we
really need to turn it all into Oxygen by having trees that make toilet
paper and through PHOTOSYNTHESIS exchanges that CO2 in the atmosphere
into Oxygen in the atmosphere, so more CO2 is likely imperative for the
process to expand with HUMAN population expansion, we need more CO2 so
we can grow more trees and plants and produce more oxygen to keep more
humans and other Biological Life alive without suffering brain damage
from low oxygen levels.
Stopping CO2 is the wrong imperative, the real need is to convert the
CO2 into plant/tree growth to get the respiration of the Oxygen we need.
CO2 scrubbing/sequestering doesn't create more oxygen.
Grow more plants, don't wipe your ass and blow your nose less...
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BeamMeUpScotty
Nov 27, 2022, 8:39:45 AM11/27/22
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On 11/27/22 5:23 AM, David Hartung wrote:
They plant and replant those trees in huge forests of corporation owned
and replanted woodlands... it keeps the land from being cut down and
turned into GOLF COURSES and TRACT HOMES And smaller land owners also
plant trees for paper to get a tax break on the use of the land since
planting those trees for paper gets you a lower property tax than just
simply leaving the land empty and/or barren which would mean you pay a
higher land tax to hold empty land.
The toilet paper "tax break" is a GREEN and SUSTAINABLE way to use the
land to decrease CO2 and increase clean Oxygen at the same time. And
with 8 Billion people, getting rid of CO2 is only half the equation, we
really need to turn it all into Oxygen by having trees that make toilet
paper and through PHOTOSYNTHESIS exchanges that CO2 in the atmosphere
into Oxygen in the atmosphere, so more CO2 is likely imperative for the
process to expand with HUMAN population expansion, we need more CO2 so
we can grow more trees and plants and produce more oxygen to keep more
humans and other Biological Life alive without suffering brain damage
from low oxygen levels.
Stopping CO2 is the wrong imperative, the real need is to convert the
CO2 into plant/tree growth to get the respiration of the Oxygen we need.
CO2 scrubbing/sequestering doesn't create more oxygen.
Grow more plants, don't wipe your ass and blow your nose less...
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't
and replanted woodlands... it keeps the land from being cut down and
turned into GOLF COURSES and TRACT HOMES And smaller land owners also
plant trees for paper to get a tax break on the use of the land since
planting those trees for paper gets you a lower property tax than just
simply leaving the land empty and/or barren which would mean you pay a
higher land tax to hold empty land.
The toilet paper "tax break" is a GREEN and SUSTAINABLE way to use the
land to decrease CO2 and increase clean Oxygen at the same time. And
with 8 Billion people, getting rid of CO2 is only half the equation, we
really need to turn it all into Oxygen by having trees that make toilet
paper and through PHOTOSYNTHESIS exchanges that CO2 in the atmosphere
into Oxygen in the atmosphere, so more CO2 is likely imperative for the
process to expand with HUMAN population expansion, we need more CO2 so
we can grow more trees and plants and produce more oxygen to keep more
humans and other Biological Life alive without suffering brain damage
from low oxygen levels.
Stopping CO2 is the wrong imperative, the real need is to convert the
CO2 into plant/tree growth to get the respiration of the Oxygen we need.
CO2 scrubbing/sequestering doesn't create more oxygen.
Grow more plants, don't wipe your ass and blow your nose less...
pick your friends nose.
--
-Reality Matters-
%
Nov 27, 2022, 1:28:26 PM11/27/22
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chrisv wrote:
> Gator Golf wrote:
>
>> Every day roughly 1.9 million trees — enough to cover about 45 Sydney
>> Opera Houses — are cut down to make traditional toilet paper out of virgin
>> wood pulp, according to a new report which looked into how consumer
>> choices can impact the environment.
>>
>> More than 60 per cent of people recently surveyed across Australia, the
>> United Kingdom and United States were unaware of how their choice in
>> toilet paper contributes to global deforestation, the Toilet Paper
>> Environmental Sustainability Report found.
>>
>> It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, adding up to 42
>> million tonnes worldwide. And that's leading to the loss of 700 million
>> trees annually, the data found.
>>
>> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/earth-day-2022-toilet-paper-found-to-contribute-to-mass-deforestation-data-reveals/a6b0763b-54a6-4f66-8a21-8b3fbad064b2>
>
> Link fixed. I can't believe they didn't mention how bad "ultra soft"
> toilet paper is, compared to "regular" toilet paper.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
>
yea and then they replant enough to cover the earth twice
> Gator Golf wrote:
>
>> Every day roughly 1.9 million trees — enough to cover about 45 Sydney
>> Opera Houses — are cut down to make traditional toilet paper out of virgin
>> wood pulp, according to a new report which looked into how consumer
>> choices can impact the environment.
>>
>> More than 60 per cent of people recently surveyed across Australia, the
>> United Kingdom and United States were unaware of how their choice in
>> toilet paper contributes to global deforestation, the Toilet Paper
>> Environmental Sustainability Report found.
>>
>> It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, adding up to 42
>> million tonnes worldwide. And that's leading to the loss of 700 million
>> trees annually, the data found.
>>
>> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/earth-day-2022-toilet-paper-found-to-contribute-to-mass-deforestation-data-reveals/a6b0763b-54a6-4f66-8a21-8b3fbad064b2>
>
> Link fixed. I can't believe they didn't mention how bad "ultra soft"
> toilet paper is, compared to "regular" toilet paper.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
>
governo...@gmail.com
Nov 27, 2022, 3:47:03 PM11/27/22
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Swill
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Don't take the bait.
governo...@gmail.com
Nov 27, 2022, 3:49:55 PM11/27/22
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 06:41:24 -0600, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
>Gator Golf wrote:
>
>>Every day roughly 1.9 million trees — enough to cover about 45 Sydney
>>Opera Houses — are cut down to make traditional toilet paper out of virgin
>>wood pulp, according to a new report which looked into how consumer
>>choices can impact the environment.
>>
>>More than 60 per cent of people recently surveyed across Australia, the
>>United Kingdom and United States were unaware of how their choice in
>>toilet paper contributes to global deforestation, the Toilet Paper
>>Environmental Sustainability Report found.
>>
>>It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, adding up to 42
>>million tonnes worldwide. And that's leading to the loss of 700 million
>>trees annually, the data found.
>>
>><https://www.9news.com.au/world/earth-day-2022-toilet-paper-found-to-contribute-to-mass-deforestation-data-reveals/a6b0763b-54a6-4f66-8a21-8b3fbad064b2>
>
>Link fixed. I can't believe they didn't mention how bad "ultra soft"
>toilet paper is, compared to "regular" toilet paper.
>
>https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
"It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, "
Really? I use a roll a month. Otoh, a woman might use a few dozen a
year but 127??
Smells like BS to me.
wrote:
>Gator Golf wrote:
>
>>Every day roughly 1.9 million trees — enough to cover about 45 Sydney
>>Opera Houses — are cut down to make traditional toilet paper out of virgin
>>wood pulp, according to a new report which looked into how consumer
>>choices can impact the environment.
>>
>>More than 60 per cent of people recently surveyed across Australia, the
>>United Kingdom and United States were unaware of how their choice in
>>toilet paper contributes to global deforestation, the Toilet Paper
>>Environmental Sustainability Report found.
>>
>>It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, adding up to 42
>>million tonnes worldwide. And that's leading to the loss of 700 million
>>trees annually, the data found.
>>
>><https://www.9news.com.au/world/earth-day-2022-toilet-paper-found-to-contribute-to-mass-deforestation-data-reveals/a6b0763b-54a6-4f66-8a21-8b3fbad064b2>
>
>Link fixed. I can't believe they didn't mention how bad "ultra soft"
>toilet paper is, compared to "regular" toilet paper.
>
>https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
"It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, "
year but 127??
Smells like BS to me.
Klaus Schadenfreude
Nov 27, 2022, 4:06:35 PM11/27/22
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Actually, according to the report:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IOBDcixSgD5Lgz2gT3UmPb0i4EIvI4bs/view
Rolls Per year
Globally 127
Australia 88
United Kingdom 127
United States 141
141/12=11.75 rolls per month per person
0.39 rolls every day.
I also call bullshit on this "study."
Of course, I use less because I only use Quilted Northern Rustic Weave
Artisanal Toilet Paper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpXtAhiKHBE
Now the real question: Why don't Australians wipe their ass as much as
everyone else?
chrisv
Nov 27, 2022, 5:04:31 PM11/27/22
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governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
>
>"It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, "
>
>Really? I use a roll a month. Otoh, a woman might use a few dozen a
>year but 127??
>
>Smells like BS to me.
Do you count what you use at work? I suppose it depends on what we
>>https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
>
>"It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, "
>
>Really? I use a roll a month. Otoh, a woman might use a few dozen a
>year but 127??
>
>Smells like BS to me.
call a "roll", too. All we can buy today are "quad rolls". Kind of
goofy, but better than none at all.
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governo...@gmail.com
Nov 27, 2022, 9:01:00 PM11/27/22
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 16:04:30 -0600, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
>governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
>>
>>"It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, "
>>
>>Really? I use a roll a month. Otoh, a woman might use a few dozen a
>>year but 127??
>>
>>Smells like BS to me.
>
>Do you count what you use at work?
I'm retired.
>I suppose it depends on what we
>call a "roll", too. All we can buy today are "quad rolls". Kind of
>goofy, but better than none at all.
I get a four pack of Charmin Essentials every three or four months.
Cream Cheese Metallic Clearcoat of course.
wrote:
>governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/world/americas/26iht-paper.1.20453524.html
>>
>>"It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, "
>>
>>Really? I use a roll a month. Otoh, a woman might use a few dozen a
>>year but 127??
>>
>>Smells like BS to me.
>
>Do you count what you use at work?
>I suppose it depends on what we
>call a "roll", too. All we can buy today are "quad rolls". Kind of
>goofy, but better than none at all.
Cream Cheese Metallic Clearcoat of course.
chrisv
Nov 28, 2022, 8:09:29 AM11/28/22
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governo...@gmail.com wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
>>
>>I suppose it depends on what we
>>call a "roll", too. All we can buy today are "quad rolls". Kind of
>>goofy, but better than none at all.
>
>I get a four pack of Charmin Essentials every three or four months.
>Cream Cheese Metallic Clearcoat of course.
I usually go with 3M 100 grit. 200 if I'm feeling fancy.
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stating the obvious
> chrisv wrote:
>>
>>I suppose it depends on what we
>>call a "roll", too. All we can buy today are "quad rolls". Kind of
>>goofy, but better than none at all.
>
>I get a four pack of Charmin Essentials every three or four months.
>Cream Cheese Metallic Clearcoat of course.
--
"I'm consequently called a liar, a troll and a moron." - "Slimer",
stating the obvious
Phil Omdahl
Nov 28, 2022, 11:31:45 AM11/28/22
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On 11/27/2022 2:23 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 11/26/22 20:52, Gator Golf wrote:
>> Every day roughly 1.9 million trees — enough to cover about 45 Sydney
>> Opera Houses — are cut down to make traditional toilet paper out of virgin
>> wood pulp, according to a new report which looked into how consumer
>> choices can impact the environment.
>>
>> More than 60 per cent of people recently surveyed across Australia, the
>> United Kingdom and United States were unaware of how their choice in
>> toilet paper contributes to global deforestation, the Toilet Paper
>> Environmental Sustainability Report found.
>>
>> It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, adding up to 42
>> million tonnes worldwide. And that's leading to the loss of 700 million
>> trees annually, the data found.
>>
>> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/earth-day-2022-toilet-paper-found-to-
>> contribute-to-mass-deforestation-data-reveals/a6b0763b-54a6-4f66-8a21-
>> 8b3fbad064b2>
>
>
> https://twosidesna.org/US/Paper-and-Sustainable-Forests-some-great-facts-to-note/
Paper industry advertising page.
> On 11/26/22 20:52, Gator Golf wrote:
>> Every day roughly 1.9 million trees — enough to cover about 45 Sydney
>> Opera Houses — are cut down to make traditional toilet paper out of virgin
>> wood pulp, according to a new report which looked into how consumer
>> choices can impact the environment.
>>
>> More than 60 per cent of people recently surveyed across Australia, the
>> United Kingdom and United States were unaware of how their choice in
>> toilet paper contributes to global deforestation, the Toilet Paper
>> Environmental Sustainability Report found.
>>
>> It's estimated a person goes through 127 rolls a year, adding up to 42
>> million tonnes worldwide. And that's leading to the loss of 700 million
>> trees annually, the data found.
>>
>> <https://www.9news.com.au/world/earth-day-2022-toilet-paper-found-to-
>> contribute-to-mass-deforestation-data-reveals/a6b0763b-54a6-4f66-8a21-
>> 8b3fbad064b2>
>
>
> https://twosidesna.org/US/Paper-and-Sustainable-Forests-some-great-facts-to-note/
governo...@gmail.com
Nov 28, 2022, 3:34:09 PM11/28/22
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industries to get on board with conservation even without federal
environmental restrictions. Tree farming has been going on for
decades at least.
The two big ag crops where I live are cattle ranching and tree
farming.
Swill
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"Reality is an acquired taste." - Matthew Perry
governo...@gmail.com
Nov 28, 2022, 3:35:38 PM11/28/22
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 07:09:29 -0600, chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
>governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>I suppose it depends on what we
>>>call a "roll", too. All we can buy today are "quad rolls". Kind of
>>>goofy, but better than none at all.
>>
>>I get a four pack of Charmin Essentials every three or four months.
>>Cream Cheese Metallic Clearcoat of course.
>
>I usually go with 3M 100 grit. 200 if I'm feeling fancy.
You have to use a premium brand or the glue will melt off and your
cheeks will fuse together.
wrote:
>governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>I suppose it depends on what we
>>>call a "roll", too. All we can buy today are "quad rolls". Kind of
>>>goofy, but better than none at all.
>>
>>I get a four pack of Charmin Essentials every three or four months.
>>Cream Cheese Metallic Clearcoat of course.
>
>I usually go with 3M 100 grit. 200 if I'm feeling fancy.
cheeks will fuse together.
Just Wondering
Nov 28, 2022, 4:03:21 PM11/28/22
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our national forests, they run Christmas tree farms that are constantly
replenished. Some people just don't understand that you can grow trees
as a crop just like wheat, grapes, etc.
governo...@gmail.com
Nov 28, 2022, 9:07:25 PM11/28/22
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