A THICKENED GALEA IS THE CAUSE OF BALDNESS!!!!!!!!!!
Jbh4159
galea membrane is the cause of baldness. It cuts off the blood circulation
slowly as it thickens. This makes total sense since hair loss starts at the
furthest point from the supplying artery and slowly recedes back to the
supplying artery. Studies have shown that a bald scalp has significantly
reduced blood flow than a non bald scalp. Also, just try and pinch a bald
scalp; it's next to impossible! because of the thickened membrane compressing
the fatty tissue which contains the hair follicals. A swedish surgeon years
ago successfully treated MPB by removing some of the galea tissue. For some
unknown reason this didn't catch on. But it is believed to be totally correct.
This theory is consistant with current treatments. Minoxidil works by
dialating the blood vessels and causing better blood circulation. And propecia
is believed to reduce to thickness of the galea(just as it reduces the size of
the prostate) also causing better blood circulation in the scalp and thus
growing hair. It seems a simple procedure of cutting away 50% or so of the
thickness of the galea would cure baldness . (The typical " pattern" in
male pattern baldness is exactly the area,size and shape of the galea) If
anyone knows of any doctors/surgeons involved with this type of treatment
,please reply.
Farrel
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Kevin
It *IS* true that men *DO* seem to get meaty heads as they get older!
Look how chunky and meaty Telly Savalis's head is! (Sorry for the
wonderful spelling)
Kevin
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jbh...@aol.com (Jbh4159) wrote:
> When are the plastic surgeons going to WAKE UP and realize that a
thickened
> galea membrane is the cause of baldness.
Hair problem is a multi-factor problem.
> It cuts off the blood
>circulation
Precise blood supply is necessary for hair follicle. Hunag-Di-Nei-Jing,
the bible of Chinese medicine mentioned that hair unit is a product of
blood supply, several thousands of years ago.
natural herbs have been used to promote blood circulations to promote
natural healthy hair for men and women.
> slowly as it thickens. This makes total sense since hair loss starts
at the
> furthest point from the supplying artery and slowly recedes back to
the
> supplying artery.
If we say, the network of microcapillaries is more accurate. some
natural herbs have been used to promote blood circulations.
A Ph.D
@ http;//www.springhair.com
> Studies have shown that a bald scalp has
significantly
> reduced blood flow than a non bald scalp.
Would you please quote those studies? very interesting point.
fine haired one
works. I'm not an expert though. But why do Propecia, Saw Palmetto and
other drugs work? Propecia was engineered to stop the conversion of
testosterone to DHT right? And I'm sure DHT levels are lowered from
Propecia. So DHT must be a factor since Propecia and similar anti-DHT drugs
work. But what exactly does DHT do? What's the exact mechanism of hair loss
from DHT? Supposedly DHT causes an immune response making the body attack
the hair follicles resulting in minituarization. But I've heard that hair
follicles are protected from the immune system. One thing I think everyone
agrees on is that there is a decreased blood supply to the pappillae of the
hair follicles.
"Jbh4159" <jbh...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000512004757...@ng-ba1.aol.com...
> When are the plastic surgeons going to WAKE UP and realize that a
thickened
> galea membrane is the cause of baldness. It cuts off the blood
circulation
> slowly as it thickens. This makes total sense since hair loss starts at
the
> furthest point from the supplying artery and slowly recedes back to the
> supplying artery. Studies have shown that a bald scalp has significantly
> reduced blood flow than a non bald scalp. Also, just try and pinch a
fine haired one
mechanism. DHT might thicken the galea, which cuts of the blood flow. The
key is "blood flow". Stress and anxiety induce hair loss by increasing
muscle tension in the scalp(which hampers blood flow) and redirecting blood
to
"fight or flight" muscles. Hmm... has anyone ever done any studies using an
electromyograph(I think this is what it's called, it measures muscle
tension) on the scalps of people with hair loss? or measured blood flow in
the body and compared it between people with hair loss and people without
hair loss.
"fine haired one" <rba...@home.com> wrote in message
news:8fgih5$rj8$1...@news.news-service.com...
doct...@my-deja.com
"fine haired one" <rba...@home.com> wrote:
> also, I've read somewhere that DHT thickens the galea, so maybe that's
the
> mechanism. DHT might thicken the galea, which cuts of the blood flow.
>The
> key is "blood flow".
Very good point. Hair unit is a product of precise blood supply through
the network of microcapillaries.
> Stress and anxiety induce hair loss by
increasing
> muscle tension in the scalp(which hampers blood flow) and redirecting
blood
> to
> "fight or flight" muscles.
By proton imaging technology, Research teams of Harvard and University
of Texas do find Stress and anxiety can change the blood circulation
condition on head.
>
Hmm... has anyone ever done any studies
using an
> electromyograph(I think this is what it's called, it measures muscle
> tension) on the scalps of people with hair loss?
It is a very interesting proposal.
>or measured blood
flow in
> the body and compared it between people with hair loss and people
without
> hair loss.
It is very difficult, because the size of microcapillaries are very
small, but using best technology, such as function study by high
resolution microimaging technology of MRI, it may work in the future.
A Ph.D
>
amitab...@hotmail.com
what's the difference in springhair and something else like ginkgo
extract which is also supposed to increase blood flow to the brain.
You can buy ginkgo at any drug store for a fairly cheap price.
Also, I thought ginseng was for memory, not necessarily increasing
blood flow to the brain--although Im very unsure about this.
But I do know ginko extract is supposed to do this, at least that's
what it says on the bottles at the store.
Also, aerobic exercise could help increase blood flow to the scalp and
lower free testosterone also. Not to mention it's just an overall
healthy thing to do.
Amit
In article <8fh1fq$t18$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
GrateRate
doct...@my-deja.com
amitab...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Doctorsp,
> what's the difference in springhair and something else like
>ginkgo
> extract
Sorry, no idea about ginkgo.
Mike Leake
>From: "fine haired one" <rba...@home.com>
>Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:22:44 -0500
>
>Yes, I've read about these "galea removing" procedures and supposedly it
>works. I'm not an expert though. But why do Propecia, Saw Palmetto and
>other drugs work? Propecia was engineered to stop the conversion of
>testosterone to DHT right? And I'm sure DHT levels are lowered from
>Propecia. So DHT must be a factor since Propecia and similar anti-DHT drugs
>work.
If it helps, it may do so in part because of a hormonal alteration
that takes place. There's an interesting study entitled, "Transcutaneous
PO2 of the Scalp in Male Pattern Baldness: A New Piece to the Puzzle"
by three doctors: Goldman, Fisher and Ringler. According to them,
a low oxygen condition in the scalp hinders the production of estradiol
and therefore skews the DHT/Estradiol ratio. They also found that
those subjects without MPB had much better oxygen delivery (via
better microcirculation) in the traditional balding areas than those
with MPB. They mention that the galea may possibly be involved
in producing this difference.
It is interesting that the classic MPB area directly overlies the galea,
which kind of makes you wonder whether the galea is actually
influencing things in that area or if it's just coincidence. It's true
that scalp tautness often varies quite significantly between
the top and the sides and back, and this could hinder
microcirculation.
Does lower microcirculation from scalp compression in the area of the
galea lead to tissue hypoxia, which in turn leads to an unfavorable
hormonal environment for hair? I don't know, but that's one possible
explanation that has been put forth.
Mike
mike
>So if this is true then why do some men go bald and other dont??????????
Exactly,and then why again can you transplant balding dermal papilla
to say your hand(no galea there) and they still continue to bald
at the same rate as scalp hair?
Farrel
Mike Leake <mal...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000512144702...@nso-cr.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: A THICKENED GALEA IS THE CAUSE OF BALDNESS!!!!!!!!!!
> >From: "fine haired one" <rba...@home.com>
> >Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:22:44 -0500
> >
> >Yes, I've read about these "galea removing" procedures and supposedly it
> >works. I'm not an expert though. But why do Propecia, Saw Palmetto and
> >other drugs work? Propecia was engineered to stop the conversion of
> >testosterone to DHT right? And I'm sure DHT levels are lowered from
> >Propecia. So DHT must be a factor since Propecia and similar anti-DHT
drugs
> >work.
> <snip...>
>
> If it helps, it may do so in part because of a hormonal alteration
> that takes place. There's an interesting study entitled, "Transcutaneous
> PO2 of the Scalp in Male Pattern Baldness: A New Piece to the Puzzle"
> by three doctors: Goldman, Fisher and Ringler. According to them,
> a low oxygen condition in the scalp hinders the production of estradiol
> and therefore skews the DHT/Estradiol ratio. They also found that
> those subjects without MPB had much better oxygen delivery (via
> better microcirculation) in the traditional balding areas than those
> with MPB. They mention that the galea may possibly be involved
> in producing this difference.
>
Mike posted a study showing that follicles in anagen actually caused
angiogenesis. So it would seem reasonable to me that any reduction of blood
flow would be the *result* of the hair loss rather than the cause.
I highly doubt the Galea theory myself since if it was that effective it
would be something that would be routinely performed. Hair transplantation
it probably more intense and traumatic a surgery, so if there was an easier
better technique to surgically improve MPB I'm sure it would be in use
today.
BTW I do think that the ratio of DHT to Estradiol may in fact have some
relevance.
Farrel
Kev
Maybe its a case where removing the galea prevents hairloss but doesnt
stimulate regrowth. So, they tried it on people and they didnt grow any hair
back, and concluded that it was ineffective. But maybe they stopped losing hair
and just didnt know it or care.
[[Kev]]
*See Kev's Hair Loss Treatments FAQ*
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doct...@my-deja.com
Mike,
very good point, do you have their publication. Please post the article
or abstract.
The important role of fuction of microcapillaries cannot be ignored.
A Ph.D
> It is interesting that the classic MPB area directly overlies the
galea,
> which kind of makes you wonder whether the galea is actually
> influencing things in that area or if it's just coincidence. It's true
> that scalp tautness often varies quite significantly between
> the top and the sides and back, and this could hinder
> microcirculation.
>
> Does lower microcirculation from scalp compression in the area of the
> galea lead to tissue hypoxia, which in turn leads to an unfavorable
> hormonal environment for hair? I don't know, but that's one possible
> explanation that has been put forth.
>
> Mike
>
>
familyjams
head looks bigger than with *MORE* hair.
I had a tiny head before hairloss and now at NW6
I look like something from SPACE 1999!!!
Mike Leake
>Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:33:37 GMT
I have a hardcopy of the full study, which appeared in Plastic and
Reconstructive Surgery, May 1996. Unfortunately my scanner
doesn't work with Windows 2000 right now, but I can send you
a copy if you send me your snail mail address.
Mike
Mike Leake
>Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 19:13:42 GMT
>> >From: "fine haired one" <rba...@home.com>
>> >Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:22:44 -0500
>> >
>> >Yes, I've read about these "galea removing" procedures and supposedly it
>> >works. I'm not an expert though. But why do Propecia, Saw Palmetto and
>> >other drugs work? Propecia was engineered to stop the conversion of
>> >testosterone to DHT right? And I'm sure DHT levels are lowered from
>> >Propecia. So DHT must be a factor since Propecia and similar anti-DHT
>drugs
>> >work.
>> <snip...>
>>
>> If it helps, it may do so in part because of a hormonal alteration
>> that takes place. There's an interesting study entitled, "Transcutaneous
>> PO2 of the Scalp in Male Pattern Baldness: A New Piece to the Puzzle"
>> by three doctors: Goldman, Fisher and Ringler. According to them,
>> a low oxygen condition in the scalp hinders the production of estradiol
>> and therefore skews the DHT/Estradiol ratio. They also found that
>> those subjects without MPB had much better oxygen delivery (via
>> better microcirculation) in the traditional balding areas than those
>> with MPB. They mention that the galea may possibly be involved
>> in producing this difference.
>>
>
>angiogenesis. So it would seem reasonable to me that any reduction of blood
>flow would be the *result* of the hair loss rather than the cause.
Basically what they were talking about in the study I mentioned
wasn't necessarily a reduction in blood flow; i.e., it used to be good
and now it's not. Rather they were talking about a structural difference
between the balding and non-balding which allowed for better
microcirculation in the latter. According to them, there was a critical
threshold level of oxygen in the scalp below which the hormonal profile
was altered and MPB guys in their study fell into that range. They
mentioned that it *might* involve compression from the galea, but
they weren't actually studying the cause of the microvascular
insufficiency, just verifying its presence.
But I can see, at least theoretically, that with the advent
of puberty, one group of guys might keep a favorable scalp hormonal
environment while the other wouldn't because of structural
differences. I don't know that it's the case, but I remain open
to the idea.
>I highly doubt the Galea theory myself since if it was that effective it
>would be something that would be routinely performed. Hair transplantation
>it probably more intense and traumatic a surgery, so if there was an easier
>better technique to surgically improve MPB I'm sure it would be in use
>today.
I don't know what to make of it myself. I've long found it somewhat
intriguing because of the way the helmet-shaped galea precisely
underlies the classic MPB area--from the frontal hairline to the crown
and a little way above the ears on the sides. I wouldn't recommend
surgical removal of the galea myself. But as a theory indicating
a possible contributing factor, I cant' rule it out.
I'm fortunate to still have most of my hair. But when I attempt the
move the scalp around with the fingertips, there's no doubt that it's
much tighter throughout the top, where I'm battling some thinning--
successfully I might add :-) --than on the sides and back.
>BTW I do think that the ratio of DHT to Estradiol may in fact have some
>relevance.
>
>Farrel
That's the part that interests me. There may also be hindered NO
release if things are compressed enough.
Mike
Sean McCormick
<doct...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8fhhus$f91$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <8fh3mv$vb4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> amitab...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Doctorsp,
> > what's the difference in springhair and something else like
>
> >ginkgo
> > extract
>
> Sorry, no idea about ginkgo.
>
> A Ph.D
>
> @ http://www.springhair.com
>
>
> > > A Ph.D
> > >
> > > @ http://www.springhair.com
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "fine haired one" <rba...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:8fgih5$rj8$1...@news.news-service.com...
> > > > > Yes, I've read about these "galea removing" procedures and
> > > supposedly it
> > > > > works. I'm not an expert though. But why do Propecia, Saw
> > Palmetto
> > > and
> > > > > other drugs work? Propecia was engineered to stop the
> conversion
> > of
> > > > > testosterone to DHT right? And I'm sure DHT levels are lowered
> > from
> > > > > Propecia. So DHT must be a factor since Propecia and similar
> > > anti-DHT
> > > > drugs
> > > > > work. But what exactly does DHT do? What's the exact mechanism
> of
> > > hair
> > > > loss
> > > > > from DHT? Supposedly DHT causes an immune response making the
> > body
> > > attack
> > > > > the hair follicles resulting in minituarization. But I've heard
> > that
> > > hair
> > > > > follicles are protected from the immune system. One thing I
> think
> > > > everyone
> > > > > agrees on is that there is a decreased blood supply to the
> > pappillae
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > hair follicles.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jbh4159" <jbh...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:20000512004757...@ng-ba1.aol.com...
Albertwas
>It is funny though that when a person has *LESS* hair there
>head looks bigger than with *MORE* hair.
>I had a tiny head before hairloss and now at NW6
>I look like something from SPACE 1999!!!
Maybe you're just getting older
and putting on the pounds.
albertw
familyjams
my head looks bigger and like an alien
doct...@my-deja.com
mal...@aol.com (Mike Leake) wrote:
> >Subject: Re: A THICKENED GALEA IS THE CAUSE OF BALDNESS!!!!!!!!!!
> >Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:33:37 GMT
> >
> >In article <20000512144702...@nso-cr.aol.com>,
> > mal...@aol.com (Mike Leake) wrote:
> >> >From: "fine haired one" <rba...@home.com>
> >> >Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:22:44 -0500
> >> >
supposedly
> >it
> >> >works. I'm not an expert though. But why do Propecia, Saw
Palmetto
> >and
> >> >other drugs work? Propecia was engineered to stop the conversion
of
> >> >testosterone to DHT right? And I'm sure DHT levels are lowered
from
> >> >Propecia. So DHT must be a factor since Propecia and similar
> >anti-DHT drugs
> >> >work.
> >>
> >> If it helps, it may do so in part because of a hormonal alteration
> >> that takes place. There's an interesting study entitled,
> >"Transcutaneous
> >> PO2 of the Scalp in Male Pattern Baldness: A New Piece to the
Puzzle"
> >> by three doctors: Goldman, Fisher and Ringler. According to them,
> >> a low oxygen condition in the scalp hinders the production of
> >estradiol
> >> and therefore skews the DHT/Estradiol ratio. They also found that
> >> those subjects without MPB had much better oxygen delivery (via
> >> better microcirculation) in the traditional balding areas than
those
> >> with MPB. They mention that the galea may possibly be involved
> >> in producing this difference.
> >
> >very good point, do you have their publication. Please post the
article
> >or abstract.
> >The important role of fuction of microcapillaries cannot be ignored.
> >
> >A Ph.D
>
> I have a hardcopy of the full study, which appeared in Plastic and
> Reconstructive Surgery, May 1996. Unfortunately my scanner
> doesn't work with Windows 2000 right now, but I can send you
> a copy if you send me your snail mail address.
Please send me to:
Attention: Doctorsp
Spring Natural Corporation
P.O. Box 13981
Gainesville, FL 32604
Could you do me a fever, type the abstract here? I really like to see it
as soon as possible. If this is a good study, it is a great news to
everybody. Hope may be there for some people who are waiting for. we try
to locate the multi factor causes one by one. People deserve to know the
truth.
Thanks..
A Ph.D
@ http://www.springhair.com
>
> Mike
erniep...@my-deja.com
> galea membrane is the cause of baldness. It cuts off the blood circulation
> slowly as it thickens. This makes total sense since hair loss starts at the
> furthest point from the supplying artery and slowly recedes back to the
> supplying artery. Studies have shown that a bald scalp has significantly
> reduced blood flow than a non bald scalp. Also, just try and pinch a bald
> scalp; it's next to impossible! because of the thickened membrane compressing
> the fatty tissue which contains the hair follicals. A swedish surgeon years
> ago successfully treated MPB by removing some of the galea tissue. For some
> unknown reason this didn't catch on. But it is believed to be totally correct.
> This theory is consistant with current treatments. Minoxidil works by
> dialating the blood vessels and causing better blood circulation. And propecia
> is believed to reduce to thickness of the galea(just as it reduces the size of
> the prostate) also causing better blood circulation in the scalp and thus
> growing hair. It seems a simple procedure of cutting away 50% or so of the
> thickness of the galea would cure baldness . (The typical " pattern" in
> male pattern baldness is exactly the area,size and shape of the galea) If
> anyone knows of any doctors/surgeons involved with this type of treatment
> ,please reply.
I believe that this should be iooked into.i don't know what a galea or a
galea region is but I and others are re-growing our hair by removing the body
hair from the follicle,this gets the nutrients flowing to the scalp again.I
do believe that the base cause has to do with the circulation system.And yes
that is why minox. works in alimited way, it does dilate the blood
vessels.Ernie
erniep...@my-deja.com
"Farrel" <far...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> So if this is true then why do some men go bald and other dont??????????
>
erniep...@my-deja.com
mike <emka...@dodgenet.com> wrote:
> "Farrel" <far...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >So if this is true then why do some men go bald and other dont??????????
>
> to say your hand(no galea there) and they still continue to bald
> at the same rate as scalp hair?
>
> >
> >
erniep...@my-deja.com
> works. I'm not an expert though. But why do Propecia, Saw Palmetto and
> other drugs work? Propecia was engineered to stop the conversion of
> testosterone to DHT right? And I'm sure DHT levels are lowered from
> Propecia. So DHT must be a factor since Propecia and similar anti-DHT drugs
> the hair follicles resulting in minituarization. But I've heard that hair
> follicles are protected from the immune system. One thing I think everyone
> agrees on is that there is a decreased blood supply to the pappillae of the
> hair follicles.
>
I believe that Propecia and that family of drugs grow hair if at all at the
expense of hair in another area.I.E.If you are gaining hair at the crown you
are losing at the temples or all over your scalp.i guess that is what is
meant by diffuse balding.I use saw p.to remove hair.Ernie
erniep...@my-deja.com
> mechanism. DHT might thicken the galea, which cuts of the blood flow. The
> muscle tension in the scalp(which hampers blood flow) and redirecting blood
> to
> electromyograph(I think this is what it's called, it measures muscle
> the body and compared it between people with hair loss and people without
> hair loss.
>
> news:8fgih5$rj8$1...@news.news-service.com...
My findings have to do with the nutrients not getting to the follicles on
the scalp.I mention the blood vesels in the balding area as beeing too
consricted to allow the needed nutrients to flow.Ernie
erniep...@my-deja.com
grat...@aol.com (GrateRate) wrote:
> If the Galea is the problem why are transplanted hairs not affected?
Apparently transplanted hairs fall out as soon as the nutrients transplanted
with them dry up Ernie
erniep...@my-deja.com
You may be on the right track.Having been the subject in numerous trials in
the military,i know that if they do not get the desired results it is
shelved,no matter what else is learned.Apparenlly NASA is an exception.Ernie
erniep...@my-deja.com
erniep...@my-deja.com
Benco57
And you are here because?????
Sean McCormick
regrown my hair to a point that it is currently better than it was 10-12
years ago (and I'm only 36) using a combination of finasteride,
spirolactone, and loniten (sorry about the spelling-no time to look at the
packages and bottles) both in topical and oral dosages. I'm not even on the
Norwood chart any more. These days I am on maintenance levels and am
working on restoring (if possible) the hair the temple areas. I read this
newsgroup because I want to be informed of the latest most scientific
advances in hairloss treatment so that I can get even better results. There
is no place on this newsgroup for snake oil salesman who take advantage of
desperate people looking for treatments that work. With the inevitable
development of genetic treatment, hair cloning, and other dht inhibiting
agents I hope to bring my hair restoration to a point prior to puberty.
Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you start talking crap!!
<erniep...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Sean McCormick
<doct...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8fiimb$isd$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <20000512194533...@nso-fm.aol.com>,
> mal...@aol.com (Mike Leake) wrote:
> > >Subject: Re: A THICKENED GALEA IS THE CAUSE OF BALDNESS!!!!!!!!!!
> > >From: doct...@my-deja.com
> > >Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 21:33:37 GMT
> > >
> > >In article <20000512144702...@nso-cr.aol.com>,
> > > mal...@aol.com (Mike Leake) wrote:
> > >> >Subject: Re: A THICKENED GALEA IS THE CAUSE OF BALDNESS!!!!!!!!!!
> > >> >From: "fine haired one" <rba...@home.com>
> > >> >Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:22:44 -0500
> > >> >
> > >> >Yes, I've read about these "galea removing" procedures and
> supposedly
> > >it
> > >> >works. I'm not an expert though. But why do Propecia, Saw
> Palmetto
> > >and
> > >> >other drugs work? Propecia was engineered to stop the conversion
> of
> > >> >testosterone to DHT right? And I'm sure DHT levels are lowered
> from
> > >> >Propecia. So DHT must be a factor since Propecia and similar
> > >anti-DHT drugs
> > >> >work.
> A Ph.D
>
> @ http://www.springhair.com
> >
> > Mike
Albertwas
>Nope, exact same weight and shape for the last 10 years except
>my head looks bigger and like an alien
Maybe your mother was abducted
by aliens.
I've heard the ears keep growing your
entire life. My 95 year old grandmother
had huge ears.
Or maybe you've lost muscle over the
10 years. Muscle weighs more than
fat. So you could weigh the same,
but with less muscle and added fat
your head could look bigger.
Or, you could have swollen-brain syndrome.
albertw
Pook
the existing hair can't cover the growing head. Scientists are now
working on head reducing cremes the reduce the top of the head by as
much as 50%!!! Makes sense!!!!
erniep...@my-deja.com
They have been shrinking heads in S.America forever and yes the heads do
have a lot of hair.
Benco57
>the existing hair can't cover the growing head. Scientists are now
>working on head reducing cremes the reduce the top of the head by as
>much as 50%!!! Makes sense!!!!
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>On 13 May 2000 02:18:55 GMT, albe...@aol.com (Albertwas) wrote:
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>>>It is funny though that when a person has *LESS* hair there
>>>head looks bigger than with *MORE* hair.
>>>I had a tiny head before hairloss and now at NW6
>>>I look like something from SPACE 1999!!!
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>>Maybe you're just getting older
>>and putting on the pounds.
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Seems to have shrunk something beneath your scalp also
Toupmaster
with them dry up Ernie>>
Transplanted hairs hardly ever fall out Ernie
Where did you get THAT info?
ToupMaster of Seattle
erniep...@my-deja.com
I personally know 2 people that had the transplanted hair fallout,one used a
hairpiece to hide it.I read on this ng from someone who spent $35,000 on
transplants and still ended up bald.then of course there are the law
suits.The Pittsburg case beeing rthe most prominent.Ernie
Corey
Sean McCormick wrote in message <3keT4.1609$c4.4...@alfalfa.thegrid.net>...
>Ernie, you don't want to start a flame war with me!! I actually have
>regrown my hair to a point that it is currently better than it was 10-12
>years ago (and I'm only 36) using a combination of finasteride,
>spirolactone, and loniten (sorry about the spelling-no time to look at the
>packages and bottles) both in topical and oral dosages. I'm not even on
the
>Norwood chart any more. These days I am on maintenance levels and am
>working on restoring (if possible) the hair the temple areas.
Hey Sean,
Whats your treatment regime? How much Spiro and Finas do you take? Im on
50mg spiro twice daily, and 2.5mg finas once a day. Also minox 5% twice
daily too. Hair definately feels a *lot* thicker since I started on the
spiro.
Do you notice any side effects from this drug?
Thanks
Corey
Sean McCormick
My treatment regime is pretty straight forward. In the morning I run (any
exercise will do) to get my blood flowing and to hydrate my scalp and then I
apply my daily topical solution which consists of even proportions of 2%
Spiro from Dr. Lee, 5% Xandrox (Night Solution) from Dr. Lee, DMSO (to
further aide in penetration) from Hairtoday, and Folligen Therapy Spray from
Hairtoday. I leave this solution on for just one (1) hour while I work on
my computer and then take a shower utilizing a 50/50 blended shampoo
consisting of 2% Nizoral and St. Ives Hair Thickening Shampoo. My A.M. oral
intake consists of a B-150 multi-vitamin, 2.5 mg of Finast from Drugsrus.org
(1/2 of a tablet), 50 mg of Spiro from Drugsrus.org (1/2 of a tablet), and
320 mg of Saw Palmetto Extract. My P.M. oral intake consist of 50 mg of
Spiro (1/2 of a tablet) and 0.5 ml of 5% Minoxidil (to get the equivalent
of 25 mg of Loniten) suspended in 1 ounce of grapefruit juice to kill the
taste. The Spiro is definitely necessary to keep away the water retention
from the oral intake of Minoxidil (plus you can drink lots of beer without
retaining fluids). I'd be very interested in what others in the newsgroup
think of this regime. Useful suggestions (this means DoctorSpam need not
reply!!) are greatly appreciated. The only thing that I can say for sure it
that this regime works very well for me. I have stayed with this basic
setup for the last year or so and haven't seen or heard of any other
products that seem worth adding. I haven't experienced any side effects
from this regime which I feel is due to the balanced nature of the products
that I am using. Is this regime dangerous to my health? I don't know, but
since I haven't observed and side-effects or negative health effects I am
not greatly concerned. I am definitely willing to take the risk as MPB runs
very strongly in my family (for example my brother who is 4 years younger is
completely bald and has been so since he was 25). Like I stated previously
my hair is in better condition than it had been in 10 plus years and I am in
better physical and mental condition than I have been in many years. I hope
this information helps!
Sean
"Corey" <smthn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sean McCormick wrote in message
<3keT4.1609$c4.4...@alfalfa.thegrid.net>...
> >Ernie, you don't want to start a flame war with me!! I actually have
> >regrown my hair to a point that it is currently better than it was 10-12
> >years ago (and I'm only 36) using a combination of finasteride,
> >spirolactone, and loniten (sorry about the spelling-no time to look at
the
> >packages and bottles) both in topical and oral dosages. I'm not even on
> the
> >Norwood chart any more. These days I am on maintenance levels and am
> >working on restoring (if possible) the hair the temple areas.
>
>
moonriv...@my-deja.com
> Please send me to:
> Attention: Doctorsp
> Spring Natural Corporation
> P.O. Box 13981
> Gainesville, FL 32604
mike,
don't forget to enclose some anthrax spores.
moonriver 2000
Part86
>Spiro (1/2 of a tablet) and 0.5 ml of 5% Minoxidil (to get the equivalent
>of 25 mg of Loniten)
25 mg of loniten?!!! how can u be taking that much oral minox and not have any
side effects. I have never heard of someone taking that much for hairloss.
>The Spiro is definitely necessary to keep away the water retention
>from the oral intake of Minoxidil
is it true that oral spiro is a diuretic?
>I have stayed with this basic
>setup for the last year or so
wut are ur results? You haven't experienced any sexual side effects?
Thanks
Sean McCormick
experimented on myself like a lab rat to find a dose that would not cause
water retention even when using Spiro and 0.5 ml of 5% minoxidil was the
highest level that I felt comfortable with. Perhaps my calculation of 25 mg
is incorrect. I decided to take Minoxidil orally because I figured if it
was reported to work topically than it should work even better systemically.
But then I could be wrong and I don't advise anyone to try something that
may cause long lasting health problems. Oral Spiro is definitely a very
potent diuretic and anti-hypertensive medication. I have gotten the
additional benefit of reducing my normally high blood pressure to a very
normal level. As I stated before I have restored my hair from probably a
Norwood 3 to 4 just 3 years ago to nothing more than receding temples and
some minor frontal diffuse thinning (which continues to get better each
day). No side effects so far and I don't expect any since I've been pretty
consistent on this regime. Thanks!
"Part86" <par...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Abbey Coach
> When are the plastic surgeons going to WAKE UP and realize that a thickened
> galea membrane is the cause of baldness. It cuts off the blood circulation
> slowly as it thickens. This makes total sense since hair loss starts at the
> furthest point from the supplying artery and slowly recedes back to the
> supplying artery. Studies have shown that a bald scalp has significantly
> reduced blood flow than a non bald scalp. Also, just try and pinch a bald
> scalp; it's next to impossible! because of the thickened membrane compressing
> the fatty tissue which contains the hair follicals. A swedish surgeon years
> ago successfully treated MPB by removing some of the galea tissue. For some
> unknown reason this didn't catch on. But it is believed to be totally correct.
> This theory is consistant with current treatments. Minoxidil works by
> dialating the blood vessels and causing better blood circulation. And propecia
> is believed to reduce to thickness of the galea(just as it reduces the size of
> the prostate) also causing better blood circulation in the scalp and thus
> growing hair. It seems a simple procedure of cutting away 50% or so of the
> thickness of the galea would cure baldness . (The typical " pattern" in
> male pattern baldness is exactly the area,size and shape of the galea) If
> anyone knows of any doctors/surgeons involved with this type of treatment
> ,please reply.
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