Is Andy Bryant's method a scam?
RO...@aol.com
Just wondering what you guys think of his method. The whole Maxim
article and everything. Is this dude just another guy trying to screw
us? $79 a month to join his "club"! And you will get a free inverter!<g>
Someone other than Andy respond.
Thanx.
John Ertel
I posted earlier today on this subject... i've done basically the same
things in the past the articles state and experienced even further hair
loss. Read my earlier message for more.
RO...@aol.com wrote in article <339B0F...@aol.com>...
fma...@earthlink.net
> Just wondering what you guys think of his method. The whole Maxim
> article and everything. Is this dude just another guy trying to screw
> us? $79 a month to join his "club"! And you will get a free inverter!<g>
> Someone other than Andy respond.
> Thanx.
Here's my advice
Become a Hair Today Member Cost: $2.46 per month ($29.95 per year)
Get Proscar (1.25mg day) Cost: $13.95 per month (members discount for 4
months supply 30 tabs
Get 5% Minoxidl Cost: $34.95 per month from Dr Lee
Drink lots of water Cost: Free
Don't drink caffeine Cost: Free
Relax/meditate Cost: Free
Read alt.baldspot Cost: Free
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Monthly Total $51.36
In this way you get 2 drugs that are scientifically proven to grow hair and you
can try Andy's approach. Sure stress and bad diet are causes for many health
problems and may help your hair growth, but you don't have to spend money to
find this out also, if you believe that gravity inversion helps you can find
some invertor at a garage sale.
The concept of a "membrane" restricting blood flow to the scalp is an old and
unproven theory, there is more than enough blood supply to the scalp.
"Since the article Andy has found that by using these methods combined with a
natural DHT inhibitor he has dramatically increased the number of clients who
demonstrate really positive results,tending to suggest that DHT has a bigger
role than was evident when the article was written..."
The other thing is that Andy's "natural DHT inhibitor" has not been tested
scientifically in my opinion.
I'm getting good results with Proscar/minox and predict that if it continues I
will have better results than James Oldham.
Maybe I should head off to England next year :)
Farrel
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John,
I do not accept that you have tried everything in this article.
You have never approached me for the BANCA test or the nutritional
side of the programme.
I am beginning to think that you work for a drug company and are
employed to discredit anything that is not a drug - Can you confirm
this for me.
Andy B
www.enterprise.net / wildchild
"John Ertel" <regr...@regrowth.com> wrote:
>I posted earlier today on this subject... i've done basically the same
>things in the past the articles state and experienced even further hair
>loss. Read my earlier message for more.
>RO...@aol.com wrote in article <339B0F...@aol.com>...
IamtheBull
Andrew,
I get it, it's a profit deal. But I'm still not clear on one thing. Does
your $79 dollars per month include the fabulous Natural Hairs product? If
not, then disregard the rest of this post. If it does, then please tell me
if they still market that piece of shit product with the wonderful claim
that: """"Balding/thinning people have a full head of hair growing just under
their scalp. The reason they lose their hair is due to clogged
follicles."""" The literature I received when I tried the product actually
said that once the pores are unclogged using their product, that hairs as
long as 3 inches would just pop through the scalp like a fuckin'
Jack-In-the-Box. Obviously no one seems to know of any scientific or even
unscientific data to back up this claim. I used it with absolutely no
results. A guy I work with has used it for the past 14 months. He has
actually lost about 50% of the hair he had when he started. He's still
hoping for a turn -round but his chances are looking thin(some pun intended).
The only thing I can say is that at the time I used it they would refund the
last 4 months price when you returned the product. That part of their
literature was true.
I think Farrell pointed out in an earlier post, if anyone is going to
compliment your regimen with a DHT blocker. Why not use the very best thing
avaiable: Proscar.
IamtheBull
HauntedX
its really too new for us to tell if its a scam or not, athough in my
opinion it does sound a bit fishy--and is still very costly. If anyone
does decide to try it please keep us posted. Hey you do get an inverter
out of it-at least a rented one -you can be the envy of all your freinds:
)
John Ertel
Andrew Bryant <a...@enterprise.net> wrote in article
<5nhdo3$k71$1...@news.enterprise.net>...
>
> John,
>
> I do not accept that you have tried everything in this article.
> You have never approached me for the BANCA test or the nutritional
> side of the programme.
Umm... technically speaking (I've read the Maxim article), it doesn't list
the BANCA test. That is in a whole separate article. No I haven't had a
BANCA test. Then again, nobody here has even spoken about one before...
all they said was drink lots of water, cut stress and caffeine and fatty
foods and you'll grow tons of hair.
Don't know if you've seen my web site, but I am getting comparable results
to the best on your program with medicinal treatments without completely
wreaking havoc on my life style and having to take a leak so many times a
day i might as well live in the bathroom :)
>
> I am beginning to think that you work for a drug company and are
> employed to discredit anything that is not a drug - Can you confirm
> this for me.
Hehehe... I've been on this newsgroup quite a while... people no me, and
character assissination won't work. I'm a programmer. Actually, I DO work
for a drug company though. A veterinary science company. We make
primarily vaccine products for farm animals. Is that what you were
thinking? hehehehe. The name of the company is Diamond Animal Health, and
I doubt you've ever heard of them since most of their products are sold
under other names and not their own (plus you'd probably have to own a farm
to need their products anyway, although we are coming out with new feline
and canine products). So no I don't work for a drug company... but from
what I've seen, YOU run a club where people pay you $80 a month so you can
tell them to drink water and cut stress. That sounds unbiased.
By the way, I run my web site (http://www.regrowth.com) for free to all
with as much information about hair loss and treatments as I can find, even
ones I have no doubt do not work. That's why I was offering to post the
article if someone sent it to me. My goal has always been to get
information out to as many people as possible, even if it's not the
information I think is right for most people, as long as it helps some I'm
happy for them.
For the record, I didn't say the maxim article stuff doesn't work... I just
said I doubt it works for most people, and the main part of it didn't work
for me. I also think the article was overblown as far as it's effect. Out
of 500 people, James Oldham's hair was the best, and his was no better than
a good Proscar/Minoxidil responder.
John Ertel
HauntedX <haun...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970609230...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
> its really too new for us to tell if its a scam or not, athough in my
> opinion it does sound a bit fishy--and is still very costly. If anyone
scam or not, the *best* person's results were no better than a good
Proscar/minox responder. Your chances of growing hair are more likely with
this combination, which costs much less than a membership in that hair
club.
John Ertel
fma...@earthlink.net wrote in article <N.060997.033910.64@fmanne>...
> > article and everything. Is this dude just another guy trying to screw
> > us? $79 a month to join his "club"! And you will get a free
inverter!<g>
> > Someone other than Andy respond.
> > Thanx.
>
>
> Become a Hair Today Member Cost: $2.46 per month ($29.95 per year)
> Get Proscar (1.25mg day) Cost: $13.95 per month (members discount for 4
> months supply 30 tabs
> Get 5% Minoxidl Cost: $34.95 per month from Dr Lee
Just an FYI to the peeps out there... you don't need to be a hairtoday
member to get that price for Dr. Lee's minoxidil... in fact you can get it
for around $32/mo if you buy it in 4 mo. quantities.
> Drink lots of water Cost: Free
> Don't drink caffeine Cost: Free
> Relax/meditate Cost: Free
> Read alt.baldspot Cost: Free
> ---------------------------------------
> Monthly Total $51.36
>
> In this way you get 2 drugs that are scientifically proven to grow hair
and you
> can try Andy's approach. Sure stress and bad diet are causes for many
health
> problems and may help your hair growth, but you don't have to spend money
to
> find this out also, if you believe that gravity inversion helps you can
find
> some invertor at a garage sale.
Agreed. :)
>
> The concept of a "membrane" restricting blood flow to the scalp is an old
and
> unproven theory, there is more than enough blood supply to the scalp.
Not just unproven, but DISPROVEN. As Dr. P said previously, there are many
situations in which thsi membrane for one reason or another has to be
removed. In these patients, they don't get hair regrowth and recent
studies prove that blood flow to the scalp is the SAME in balding and
non-balding men.
>
> "Since the article Andy has found that by using these methods combined
with a
> natural DHT inhibitor he has dramatically increased the number of clients
who
> demonstrate really positive results,tending to suggest that DHT has a
bigger
> role than was evident when the article was written..."
>
> The other thing is that Andy's "natural DHT inhibitor" has not been
tested
> scientifically in my opinion.
Also, this 'natural DHT inhibitor' is Saw Palmetto, which you can buy in
any grocery/health store without paying $80 a month to find out :)
>
> I'm getting good results with Proscar/minox and predict that if it
continues I
> will have better results than James Oldham.
Ditto. My hairline has moved more than 2 cm forward. It is not as thick
as regular hair yet, but it's getting closer every month.
PS - I have a better head of hair than James Oldham, too. Then again, I
started in better condition. However, Farrel started in worse condition
than James Oldham, and I think if his results continue as they should, he
will grow more hair than Oldham, too.
Maybe we'll both go to england next year. After all, the article said
regrown hair without surgery, not without drugs. As for this earth
shattering event, I never heard of it before and nobody other than anybody
who's read the maxim article has either.
DAVES DAD
Hi. I was the guy who originally posted info regarding the Maxim article.
I bought absolutely nothing beyond the copy of the magazine. Since late
January, I managed to grow back enough hair that I went from 45% density
to at least 75% using only a composite of the methods discussed in the
article. Trust me though when I say that it requires alot of self
discipline. I drank 3 cups of coffee everday for 21 years and then
stopped cold and that was just the beginning. Right now I'm so glad that
I went through the trouble. I feel healthier than I have in years, and I
get the biggest kick out of people who I haven't seen in a few months
asking me what the hell I've been doing to grow back so much hair. I
simply explain about the information in the article. I urge you to give it
a fair try.
DAVES DAD
Personally, as I mentioned over a week ago, I didn't think James Oldham
grew the most hair, but I think it's undeniable thatAnthony Leonard, the
60 year old security guard's results were extraordinary enough to convert
anyone. ..again I need to state, that I have absolutely no problem with
marinating my head in any chemical whatsoever; It's just that I have
never had ANYTHING work for me as well as and as fast as the methods
described in the article....and one more time, I DIDN'T BUY ANYTHING
BEYOND THE COPY OF THE MAGAZINE!
John Ertel
I believe you, but where is the rest of the article... you don't get to see
anthony leonard's results? It seems like a lot of the article is missing
and only the parts that promot NHP are posted.
DAVES DAD <dave...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970610024...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
Ed Seas
DAVES DAD wrote:
>
> Personally, as I mentioned over a week ago, I didn't think James Oldham
> grew the most hair, but I think it's undeniable thatAnthony Leonard, the
> 60 year old security guard's results were extraordinary enough to convert
> anyone. ..again I need to state, that I have absolutely no problem with
> marinating my head in any chemical whatsoever; It's just that I have
> never had ANYTHING work for me as well as and as fast as the methods
> described in the article....and one more time, I DIDN'T BUY ANYTHING
> BEYOND THE COPY OF THE MAGAZINE!
But James Oldham, NOT Anthony Leonard won the contest anyways! So unless
you are one of the judges....
Ed Seas
DAVES DAD wrote:
>
> Hi. I was the guy who originally posted info regarding the Maxim article.
> I bought absolutely nothing beyond the copy of the magazine. Since late
> January, I managed to grow back enough hair that I went from 45% density
> to at least 75% using only a composite of the methods discussed in the
> article.
Now WAIT JUST A SECOND! Didn't you just claim that you also use 2%
minoxidil 3 x per day? Certainly this drug was NOT mentioned as being
part of the Bryant program. You just can't have it both ways Dave's
Dad.
Ed Seas
Motomij wrote:
>
> o.k. so i stop drinking my french roast in the morning. start drinking a
> lot of water and reduce stress in my life. give up proscar and minox(that
> actually are producing results) AS IF! i am not sure that the finasteride
> does'nt have a synergistic effect with the coffee and all the
> stress.however i might try it if i go insane as well as bald. but probably
> not.
> alt.baldspot
I don't think it is anywhere near as easy to get proscar in England as
it is here. This might explain a lot.
Yana97
Ed, Dave's Dad did not say that he was only using Andy's program...not
once. He just read the article and tried some of the stuff listed. Yes,
he is using minoxidil and anyone who wanted to try something like this
juice and inversion thing should remember that before they throw out all
their meds, but I don't think it is fair to act as tho Dave's Dad here and
Andy are promoting the same thing.
Yana
Anonymous
Basically his main ideas are about 90% based on the contents of a
book called the 'Natural Cure To Baldness' which was being sold in
England about 4 years ago. In particular the stuff about
de-stressing and inversion. I don't know who had the idea first on
this, Andy Bryant or D. Tubb, the guy who wrote the other book. But
the Tubb book appeared first although AFAIK it didn't sell through
retailers but only mail order. But it was advertised widely in the
national press.
Plenty of men (say up to about 5-10%) don't gold bald at any
age...and they do it without hanging upside down. Genes rool OK.
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