Ree.: THE BEATLES CAUSED THE DISINTEGRATION OF MANKIND
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The Influence of the Beatles on Charles Manson
One of the two great influences on the thinking of Charles Manson,
along with the Book of Revelation, was the musical group the Beatles.
According to Family members, Manson would most often quote "the
Beatles and the Bible." The two influences were linked, in that Manson
saw the four Beatles members as being the "four angels" referred to in
Revelation 9. Revelation 9 also tells of "locusts"--the Beatles, of
course--coming out upon the earth. It describes prophets as having
"faces as the faces of men" but with "the hair of women"--an assumed
reference too the long hair of the all-male English group. In
Revelation 9, the four angels with "breastplates of fire"--electric
guitars--"issued fire and brimstone"--song lyrics.
Manson believed that the Beatles spoke to him through their lyrics,
especially those included in the White Album, released in December
1968. Several songs from the White Album crystalized Manson's
thinking about a coming revolt by blacks against the white
Establishment. He interpreted many of the songs idiosyncratically,
believing, for example, that "Rocky Raccoon" meant black people and
"Happiness is a Warm Gun" was a song about getting firearms to carry
on the revolution rather than--more obviously--a song about sex.
The White Album played a key role in forging Manson's warped
ideology. According to Family member Paul Watkins, "Before Helter
Skelter came along, all Charlie cared about was orgies."
Beatles Song
Lyrics
Manson Interpretation**
Comment
Revolution 1
(White Album)
You say you want a revolution/ Well you know/ We all want to change
the world/ You tell me that it's evolution/ Well you know/ We all want
to change the world/ But when you talk about destruction/ Don't you
know that you can count me out (in).
Don't you know it's gonna be all right/ All right, all right/ You say
you got a real solution/ Well you know/ We'd all love to see the plan.
Beatles favor a revolution.
Manson should now reveal his plan to escape the coming chaos.
Although the album jacket insert says "you know that you can count me
out," on the record itself the word "in" can be heard immediately
after the word "out."
Blackbird
(White Album)
Blackbird singing in the dead of night/ Take these broken wings and
learn to fly/ All your life/ You were only waiting for this moment to
arise. Beatles were urging black people to arise and revolt against
the white establishment. Manson was fond of the word "rise"--often
telling his followers that black people would "rise up."
Piggies
(White Album)
Have you seen the little piggies/ Crawling in the dirt/ And for all
those little piggies/ Life is getting worse/ Always having dirt to
play around in.
Have you seen the bigger piggies/ In their starched white shirts/ You
will find the bigger piggies/ Stirring up the dirt/ Always have clean
shirts to play around in.
In their styes with all their backing/ They don't care what goes on
around/ In their eyes there's something lacking/ What they need's a
damn good whacking.
Everywhere there's lots of piggies/ Living piggy lives/ You can see
them out for dinner/ With their piggy wives/ Clutching forks and
knives to eat their bacon.
Manson interpreted "piggies" to mean members of the Establishment. He
saw the song as telling him that the Establishment needed "a damn good
whacking." Manson frequently quoted the line referring to the need
for a "whacking." The song refers to forks and knives. Rosemary
LaBianca received 41 knive wounds, Leno LaBianca received 12 knive
wounds and 7 fork wounds. On a wall in the LaBianca home, in Leno's
blood, was written the phrase "Death to Pigs."
Helter Skelter
(White Album)
When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide/ Where I
stop and I turn and I go for a ride/ Till I get to the bottom and I
see you again.
Do you, don't you want me to love you/ I'm coming down fast but I'm
miles above you/ Tell me tell me tell me come on tell me the answer/
You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer./ Helter skelter helter
skelter/ Helter skelter.
Will you, won't you want me to make you/ I'm coming down fast but
don't let me break you/ Tell me tell me tell me the answer/ You may be
a lover but you ain't no dancer./ Look out helter skelter helter
skelter/ Helter skelter.
Look out, cause here she comes./ When I get to the bottom I go back to
the top of the slide/ And I stop and I turn and I go for a ride/ And I
get to the bottom and I see you again./ Well do you, don't you want me
to make you/ I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you/ Tell me
tell me tell me the
answer/ You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer./ Look out helter
skelter helter skelter/ Helter skelter/ Look out helter skelter/ She's
coming down fast/ Yes she is/ Yes she is.
According to former Family member Brooks Poston, Manson told the
group on New Year's Eve 1968: "Are you hep to what the Beatles are
saying? Helter Skelter is coming down. The Beatles are telling it
like it is." 'Helter Skelter" was printed on the refrigerator at the
LaBianca home.
Revolution 9
(White Album)
[ Song consists of a collection of sound clips. The sounds include
shouts, classical music, exploding mortars, soccer yells, crowd
sounds, car horns, crying babies, hymns, oinking pigs, dialogue from
the BBC, phrases such as "Block that Nixon," and the repeated words
"Number 9, Number 9, Number 9." A man's voice appears to say "Rise."
The song ends with the sounds of machine gun fire and screams,
followed by the lullaby "Good Night."] Manson saw the song as
paralleling the message of the Bible's Revelation 9. He saw the song
as a prophecy of the upcoming black verseus white revolution. This
song, as well as "Blackbird," were seen by Prosecutor Bugliosi as
being the inspiration for the printing in blood of the word "rise" at
the LaBianca home.
I Will
(White Album)
Who knows how long I've loved you/ You know I love you still/ Will I
wait a lonely lifetime/ If you want me to--I will....
And when at last I find you/ Your song will fill the air/ Sing it loud
so I can hear you/ Make it easy to be near you/ For the things you do
endear you to me/ You know I will/ I will.
Manson interpreted the line "Your song will fill the air/ Sing it
loud so I can hear you" to mean that he should make an album so that
the peoples could find him (Manson), the returned Jesus Christ. After
the White Album came out in Deember 1968, Manson began writing songs
in earnest, hoping to answer the Beatle's imagined request that he
produce an album--but he never did. Each song was to be directed at a
specific target group.
Honey Pie
(White Album)
She was a working girl/ North of England way/ Now she's hit the big
time/ In the USA/ And if she could only hear me/ This is what I'd
say./ Honey pie you are making me crazy/ I'm in love but I'm lazy/ So
won't you please come home.
Oh honey pie my position is tragic/ Come and show me the magic/ of
your Hollywood song/...Oh honey pie you are driving me frantic/ Sail
across the Atlantic/ To be where you belong./ Will the wind that blew
her boat/ Across the sea/ Kindly send her sailing back to me./ Honey
pie you are making me crazy/ I'm in love but I'm lazy/ So won't you
please come home.
Manson interpreted the line "Sail across the Atlantic to where you
belong" to mean that the Beatles should come to the USA to join his
Family in Death Valley. Manson interpreted the line "I'm in love but
I'm lazy" to mean that Beatles loved Jesus Christ and believed him to
be in Southern California ("magic of your Hollywood song") but were
too lazy to search for him (now in the form of Charles Manson).
Hoping to persuade the beatles to join them, Manson and other Family
members sent several telegrams, wrote numerous letters, and attempted
at least three phone calls to the Beatles in England, all to no
avail.
**The interpretations on this page are generally those offered by
Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi, based on his interviews with several
Manson Family members. The interpretations are discussed in
Bugliosi's book Helter Skelter, pages 238-245.
Manson Trial
andrew curragh
were not. The virtual extermination of native american tribes was also
before the beatles. The only atomic bombs dropped on civilian populations
predate the beatles. The most devastating natural disasters are tsunamis
which are in essence big waves. Big waves are a Beach Boy thing .
"kcajMEAT" <jack....@charter.net> wrote in message
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Fun Tyme
> Charles Manson may have been influenced by the Beatles. Hitler and Stalin
> were not. The virtual extermination of native american tribes was also
> before the beatles. The only atomic bombs dropped on civilian populations
> predate the beatles. The most devastating natural disasters are tsunamis
> which are in essence big waves. Big waves are a Beach Boy thing .
> "kcajMEAT" <jack....@charter.net> wrote in message
Well, that's it then - the Beach Boys must be hunted down and sand
kicked in their eyes.
Wave goodbye to the Beach Boys.