WHY AREN'T AIRLINE COCKPITS SECURELY ISOLATED FROM PASSENGER CABIN?
Bill Mulcahy
<sandpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> If a secure, thick, steel door seperated the cockpit from the cabin
> wouldn't tradgedies like the WTC bombings be avoided?
The crew still has to open the cockpit door to use the bathroom.
If a handful of people with BOXCUTTERS can turn FOUR jumbo jets into bombs
and destroy the two World Trade Center buildings, should air traffic be
resumed at all until this safety problem is resolved?
--
Bill Mulcahy, editor of the Aviation Conspiracy Newsletter
http://pages.prodigy.net/rockaway/ACNewsmenu.htm
Limey Dave
"Bill Mulcahy" <rock...@hvi.net> wrote in message
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>
> <sandpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9mttpt4qnine3kc9i...@4ax.com...
> > If a secure, thick, steel door seperated the cockpit from the cabin
> > wouldn't tradgedies like the WTC bombings be avoided?
>
> The crew still has to open the cockpit door to use the bathroom.
>
> If a handful of people with BOXCUTTERS can turn FOUR jumbo jets into bombs
> and destroy the two World Trade Center buildings, should air traffic be
> resumed at all until this safety problem is resolved?
>
If someone can post such utter bullschlitz worldwide, should he be allowed
near a pc again?????
Limey Dave.
aabbcc (aka running with scissors)
"Limey Dave" <david...@NOworldCRAPnet.att.net> wrote in message
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or out in public unsupervised
ale
"Bill Mulcahy" <rock...@hvi.net> wrote:
> <sandpi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9mttpt4qnine3kc9i...@4ax.com...
> > If a secure, thick, steel door seperated the cockpit from the cabin
> > wouldn't tradgedies like the WTC bombings be avoided?
>
> The crew still has to open the cockpit door to use the bathroom.
>
> If a handful of people with BOXCUTTERS can turn FOUR jumbo jets into bombs
> and destroy the two World Trade Center buildings, should air traffic be
> resumed at all until this safety problem is resolved?
Good question. But the real question is, *CAN* the safety problem be
resolved. I would suggest that in really, in the end, there is no way
to solve the safety problem. There really isn't. No matter how many
"safety" system you set in place, there will always, ALWAYS be a way
around them.
So the answer is, we have to do the best we can, and the FAA is doing
just that. It simply will not be a full proof system to stop anyone
willing to die for their cause.
jer
something..and the pilot doesn't come..are you gonna sue the airlines?
Yup....
"Bill Mulcahy" <rock...@hvi.net> wrote in message
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Thumper
>If a commotion is going on outside the cockpit, and folks are being beaten
>something..and the pilot doesn't come..are you gonna sue the airlines?
>Yup....
Nonsense. The reason Airlines haven't secured the cockpits is because
they don't want to spend the money. Most airlines are on the verge of
bankruptcy already. One other reason is because until now there has
been very little chance of someone breaking into the cockpit.
If your scenario were true don't you think there is at least an equal
chance that they will be sued FOR COMING OUT OF THE COCKPIT?
Thumper
John S. Dyson
"Thumper" <jayl...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:08:46 GMT, "jer" <jer...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
> >If a commotion is going on outside the cockpit, and folks are being beaten
> >something..and the pilot doesn't come..are you gonna sue the airlines?
> >Yup....
> Nonsense. The reason Airlines haven't secured the cockpits is because
> they don't want to spend the money.
>
civil behavior. Perhaps our stewards and stewardess will now be 6'2",
250lbs, named Bubba.
John
richard droney
replacing "waitress" types with enforcement types may not be a bad move.
Same money...different role.
I mean...who says it's got to be meals and beverages??? Try tasers and
guaranteed safety. If an airline did this they would be in business big
time.
John S. Dyson <dy...@iquest.net> wrote in message
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Greg
>If a commotion is going on outside the cockpit, and folks are being beaten
>something..and the pilot doesn't come..are you gonna sue the airlines?
>Yup....
The pilots probably thought it would be like most other hijackings,
where they park on the runway for a while, and the bandits give
themselves up after negotiations. They had no idea that the
terrorists would actually be able to _fly_ their planes into
buildings. If they had, they'd have stayed in the cockpit.
Robin*
This won't happen again, even if terrorists *do* manage to sneak aboard a
jetliner.
The next time a plane gets hijacked, I have a feeling the passengers will
not allow a takeover to occure.
"Greg" <greg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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jer
No...everytime a commotion starts, one of the pilots come out. Standard
procedure and conformed on ABC news. They want the door more secure, and not
to come out. Airlines wants them to stop the problem. And its what I said,
they come out because they will be sued if someone gets hurt or killed and
there were no authority, which the pilot "is" in the air, to stop it. True,
part I agree with is it would cost more for the doors to be replaced, but it
isn't the "basic" reason why the pilots come out...and steel door or not, if
they cannot be protected from suits because a pilot doesn't arrive, they
will continue to come out.
First MI Last
>
> >If a commotion is going on outside the cockpit, and folks are being
beaten
> >something..and the pilot doesn't come..are you gonna sue the airlines?
> >Yup....
>
> The pilots probably thought it would be like most other hijackings,
> where they park on the runway for a while, and the bandits give
> themselves up after negotiations. They had no idea that the
> terrorists would actually be able to _fly_ their planes into
> buildings. If they had, they'd have stayed in the cockpit.
The pilot of an airliner, or any other plane, is much the same, or exactly
the same, as the captain of a ship. He has the same responsibility and
authority as the captain of the ship with one exception, he does not sit in
judgement of the people under his command. This in no way relieves him of
the responsibility for the condition (ie airworthiness) of the plane, nor
taking command of any situation that would in any way endanger the plane
and/or passengers. Not an agreement with the company, dude. Law.
Lennie