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Steve Reinis

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Nov 25, 2003, 5:58:04 PM11/25/03
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I want to buy a used car from a private party that is located in another
state. The owner has the title and old registration, but the car will not
have plates on it or be registered when I drive it back to my home state.

Can I legally drive the car home if I have a bill of sale and title transfer
slip signed over to me? I really don't want to register the car in
Virginia, then reregister it in Texas due to cost and time involved.

I've google and found that I *should* be okay barring any accidents, which
could make things tricky. If I get pulled over, explain to the officer the
situation and show him the bill of sale, etc.

Anyone know for sure? It's really a great deal and I hate to pass it up
because I don't have the ability to tow or trailer the vehicle home.

Thanks,
-Steve


jim

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Nov 25, 2003, 6:45:39 PM11/25/03
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there is no law that allows you to drive a car without plates or without
being registered... matter of fact you have a few days to register the
car when you get home, but that does not let you drive it at all.....
and taking a chance... well you can go out and steal a car and when the
officer stops you and you have a story it might work or not??/ but that
is taking a chance.. there are auto transport companies that will put
your car on a trailer and move it from one place to another.. call them
up in the yellow pages.... just remember that the pieces of paper with
the "Title or License Applied for" in the rear window is not worth the
paper they are printed on... if the police feels sorry for you and gives
you a break then you are OK, if not then you will have to pay the
fine... use a transfer company for your car and save the grief... or
take a chance and either make it or pay the fines.. its that simple....

Derrick 'dman' Hudson

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Nov 25, 2003, 8:02:43 PM11/25/03
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:58:04 -0600, Steve Reinis wrote:
> I want to buy a used car from a private party that is located in another
> state. The owner has the title and old registration, but the car will not
> have plates on it or be registered when I drive it back to my home state.
>
> Can I legally drive the car home if I have a bill of sale and title transfer
> slip signed over to me? I really don't want to register the car in
> Virginia, then reregister it in Texas due to cost and time involved.
>
> I've google and found that I *should* be okay barring any accidents, which
> could make things tricky. If I get pulled over, explain to the officer the
> situation and show him the bill of sale, etc.
>
> Anyone know for sure?

Not in New York, at least. New York's web site says that you can get
a 30-day temporary "transit" registration in order to move a vehicle
that isn't registered. However, they also say that Massachusets, for
one, doesn't recognize that in-transit registration.

Check with your (Texas) DMV and the DMVs of all the states in-between.
Texas may have a similar provision for you, and maybe you can plan a
route that only involves states that will recognize the temp.
registration.

I certainly understand your reluctance to waste money (and time) on
excess registration.

Hmm, another option -may- be to just keep the Virginia registration
until it expires and then register in Texas (again, check with
relevant DMVs for regulations on this) and at least then you wouldn't
be paying two registration fees one right after the other on it.

-D

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Mike...@mailcity.com

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Nov 25, 2003, 8:21:23 PM11/25/03
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No you can not. For situations like yours, you need to purchase
a transit tag, every state offers them. You will need to show
proof of insurance in most states..

mike hunt

Steve Reinis

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Nov 25, 2003, 9:22:21 PM11/25/03
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A temporary "Transit tag" is the ticket! Keying that into Google got
results. Thanks!


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Steve Reinis

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Nov 25, 2003, 9:22:49 PM11/25/03
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Okay, I have insurance and checked with them...They said I'm covered in any
vehicle I drive.

A temporary "Transit tag" is the ticket! Keying that into Google got
results. Thanks!


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Raymond Sirois

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Nov 25, 2003, 11:09:44 PM11/25/03
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:58:04 -0600, "Steve Reinis" <noe...@all.com>
wrote:

>I want to buy a used car from a private party that is located in another
>state. The owner has the title and old registration, but the car will not
>have plates on it or be registered when I drive it back to my home state.
>
>Can I legally drive the car home if I have a bill of sale and title transfer
>slip signed over to me? I really don't want to register the car in
>Virginia, then reregister it in Texas due to cost and time involved.

No you cannot. A car that has been transferred to another owner is no
longer registered to the former owner (seller). Since the car is not
yet registered to you with any state DMV, it is therefore an
unregistered motor vehicle. Operation of unregistered motor vehicles
is prohibited in all states.

>
>I've google and found that I *should* be okay barring any accidents, which
>could make things tricky. If I get pulled over, explain to the officer the
>situation and show him the bill of sale, etc.

You will not be okay. Trust me.

Raymond Sirois
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C. E. White

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Nov 25, 2003, 11:26:59 PM11/25/03
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Why not call the Texas DMV and ask them the question?

http://www.dot.state.tx.us/mcd/onestop/frequent.htm#Temporary
Registration

See http://www.dot.state.tx.us/mcd/onestop/tvehreg.htm

Ed

Steve Reinis

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Nov 25, 2003, 11:35:22 PM11/25/03
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Searching for "Temporary tag" or the like didn't even come to mind until
later on. I've since found that one can purchase a temporary tag for a
small fee.

I called TDOT, but they were already closed for the evening.

But again, thanks to the newsgroup and Google, I did find what I needed to
know.

Thanks,
-Steve

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Im Right

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Nov 26, 2003, 10:43:50 AM11/26/03
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Trailer = 100% legal
Temporary Tags + 100% legal
No tags, could be sleeping in jail.


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: I want to buy a used car from a private party that is located in another

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BK24

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Nov 27, 2003, 10:07:35 PM11/27/03
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Insurance is a must as well.


C

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Nov 28, 2003, 8:38:01 AM11/28/03
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most sates honor what the state reauires where the vehicle was purchaed
in.

rent a U-Hal and a trailer....

C.


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junkm...@intertainiaremove.com

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Nov 28, 2003, 10:13:13 AM11/28/03
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:38:01 GMT, C <cpi...@uit.net> wrote:

>
>most sates honor what the state reauires where the vehicle was purchaed
>in.
>
>rent a U-Hal and a trailer....
>
>C.

He said he didn't have the ability to tow the vehicle, but this does
make the best sense. Since, how is he even getting to the car, in VA,
in the first place. Might as well rent a uHaul out there, and reserve
a car dolly at where he's picking the car up.

later,

tom

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Michael

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Nov 28, 2003, 11:03:59 AM11/28/03
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"Steve Reinis" <noe...@all.com> wrote in message
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> I want to buy a used car from a private party that is located in another
> state. The owner has the title and old registration, but the car will not
> have plates on it or be registered when I drive it back to my home state.
>
> Can I legally drive the car home if I have a bill of sale and title
transfer
> slip signed over to me? I really don't want to register the car in
> Virginia, then reregister it in Texas due to cost and time involved.
>
> Thanks,
> -Steve

This may not be helpful to you, but in Michigan you can buy a car from a
private party and drive it home unregistered (plateless) as long as you have
the title, signed by the seller, and proof of insurance. You can check the
law for any states you plan to drive through at their websites.

mike
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Steve Reinis

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Nov 28, 2003, 11:44:37 AM11/28/03
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I've already posted a followup to my original message.

I've since learned about temporary plates and have everything all squared
away, legally!

-Steve


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CyberWolf

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Nov 28, 2003, 7:49:48 PM11/28/03
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> > I want to buy a used car from a private party that is located in another
> > state. The owner has the title and old registration, but the car will
not
> > have plates on it or be registered when I drive it back to my home
state.
> >
> > Can I legally drive the car home if I have a bill of sale and title
> transfer
> > slip signed over to me? I really don't want to register the car in
> > Virginia, then reregister it in Texas due to cost and time involved.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Steve
>
> This may not be helpful to you, but in Michigan you can buy a car from a
> private party and drive it home unregistered (plateless) as long as you
have
> the title, signed by the seller, and proof of insurance. You can check the
> law for any states you plan to drive through at their websites.
>

In Vermont, it's illegal to drive an unregistered vehicle at anytime.
You cannot drive a vehicle without a tag or a license plate in Vermont at
anytime. If you plan on purchasing a vehicle from a private party from out
of state, it is best to check the laws with the DMV's in every states before
making a purchase. It's always best to get a temporary tag for your vehicle
if purchased out of state. Vermont recognizes temporary tags from out of
state. In Vermont, but those temporary tags MUST be attached to to where
license plates are screwed into the back of your vehicle. You must also have
the title, temporary registartion, bill of sale, and proof of insurance to
drive a purchased vehicle from out of state to your home state. If you are
to purchase a vehicle from a private party from out of state with no plate,
your best bet is to have your vehicle transported to your state by hiring a
transporting company.

~CyberWolf


Oliver B. Lafferty

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Nov 29, 2003, 7:27:17 AM11/29/03
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Delaware has a temporary transportation tag that supposes will allow
the purchaser to drive the vehicle home but:
The start of the time is when you get the tag and the end is (as I
recall) five days. Police like to check out of state vehicles and my
son got as far as Arkansas on his way to Arizona when he was pulled
over, fined for no 'acceptable' tag and left to go on his lawbreaking
way. This was a town cop and court though, but just another example
of government extortion.

Majo...@mailcity.com

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Dec 1, 2003, 3:41:40 PM12/1/03
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The transit tag, issue by the state of Delaware, expires at 12:00
PM on the thirtieth day from date of issue. ALL states issue
transit tags for a period of at least thirty days, some are
issued for longer periods.


mike hunt

Phil Smith

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Dec 5, 2003, 1:58:46 AM12/5/03
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Majo...@mailcity.com wrote:

> The transit tag, issue by the state of Delaware, expires at 12:00
> PM on the thirtieth day from date of issue. ALL states issue
> transit tags for a period of at least thirty days, some are
> issued for longer periods.

Not quite all. Massachusetts requires 3 days to either get a new reg or
xfer an old one. No "paper plates" there.
-psmith
>
>
> mike hunt
[snip]

Mike...@mailcity.com

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Dec 5, 2003, 3:35:07 PM12/5/03
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You are referring to an in state registration, not a transit
tag. If you will take the time to do a little research you will
find Massachusetts does indeed issue a transit tag, good for
thirty days.


mike hunt

Phil Smith

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Dec 6, 2003, 3:27:35 AM12/6/03
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Mike...@mailcity.com wrote:

> You are referring to an in state registration, not a transit
> tag. If you will take the time to do a little research you will
> find Massachusetts does indeed issue a transit tag, good for
> thirty days.

Well, no they don't. See
http://www.state.ma.us/rmv/regs/reg2.htm
to discover that section 2 of Chapter 90 of the Massachusetts General
Laws does not allow the issuance of temporary registrations. Regardless
of whether the replacement vehicle was purchased in-state or
out-of-state, you get 7 days to transfer the existing registration to
the replacement vehicle. Same plate, different wheels. You even have to
see your insurance agent first to make sure the replacement vehicle is
insured before a registration document can be prepared. On a non-dealer
sale, the insurance agent actually prepares the registration
application. How it works is explained in more detail at
http://www.state.ma.us/rmv/forms/21426.pdf

> mike hunt
-psmith

Phrederick

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Dec 6, 2003, 11:00:39 PM12/6/03
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> > You are referring to an in state registration, not a transit
> > tag. If you will take the time to do a little research you will
> > find Massachusetts does indeed issue a transit tag, good for
> > thirty days.
> Well, no they don't. See
> http://www.state.ma.us/rmv/regs/reg2.htm
> to discover that section 2 of Chapter 90 of the Massachusetts General
> Laws does not allow the issuance of temporary registrations. Regardless
> of whether the replacement vehicle was purchased in-state or
> out-of-state, you get 7 days to transfer the existing registration to
> the replacement vehicle. Same plate, different wheels.

This is talking about the plates, not the car.

If I buy a car from you, YOU have seven days to tell the state that you no
longer own the car.

Has nothing to do with me or the car. I assume that I have seven days to
tell the state that I bought the car, but it doesn't say that above. Getting
a 30 day ticket would easily fulfil the requirement, if there is one.


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