3.0 or 2.5 engine in a Volvo 960 95/96?
Stefan Mann
My family and I have decided to buy a Volvo, and for some strange reason is
the 960-series totally underestimated here in Sweden. To our benefit!
But there seems to be a lot more of 2.5 litres engines out there than the
3.0 litre and I am not sure which one to choose. Is there anything wrong
with the 3.0, since I almost can find 10 2.5 on one 3.0 searching the
Internet (at least here in Sweden)?
Is there a big difference in accelaration, fuel-consumption or comfort?
Which one to choose for better reliabiltity, easier to work with etc?
Would be greatful for any help!
Best regards
Stefan
Mark A Sovereign
Basically they are the same car just the trim spec maybe different on the
models you are looking at. Of course the 3litre is more thirsty its a big
engine, but will be more smootheeeer to drive. A good comparison is on the
850 between the 2l and 2.5.
The engine are the same as the 850's except with an extra cylinder.
Unless you really need a 3l go for a low mileage 2.5 fully loaded one. Don't
forget unless you have deep pockets its going to cost you are lot more to
fill up. If you are always filling the boot/estate to the brim with
junk/items so its works for its living then go the 3l.
hope this helps.
mark in Leeds/uk.
uk 850glt 2l 20v 173k miles,k+n,Volvo strut-brace,t5r bumper
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Ashok Aiyar
Stefan Mann (stefa...@swipnet.se) wrote:
Hi Stefan,
The 960 is a finely appointed automobile, but is piss-poor as
far as fuel economy goes.
> But there seems to be a lot more of 2.5 litres engines out there than the
> 3.0 litre and I am not sure which one to choose. Is there anything wrong
> with the 3.0, since I almost can find 10 2.5 on one 3.0 searching the
> Internet (at least here in Sweden)?
Here in the US, it was only sold with a 3.0L engine. The
rated mileage was about 17 mpg city / 26 mpg hwy (US gallons).
I have driven a late model US 960 ('95 or '96). Lovely car
to drive. I think you'll enjoy it. Didn't buy it because I
couldn't afford it in '98.
> Is there a big difference in accelaration, fuel-consumption or comfort?
> Which one to choose for better reliabiltity, easier to work with etc?
I don't know enough about the engine. I presume it is
derived from the PRV B280 V6. If that is the case, older
versions of that engine have been unreliable, unless
meticulously maintained.
You should also consider the 940Turbo. Also a very
luxurious automobile, with the smaller more fuel efficient 4
cylinder B230. With the turbo, the acceleration is more
than acceptable.
Regards,
Ashok
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'90 764 Ti 174K
William Liao
"Ashok Aiyar" <ai...@ebv.mimnet.northwestern.edu> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 May 2002 22:52:27 +0200,
> Stefan Mann (stefa...@swipnet.se) wrote:
>
> I don't know enough about the engine. I presume it is
> derived from the PRV B280 V6. If that is the case, older
> versions of that engine have been unreliable, unless
> meticulously maintained.
>
B280 V6 carried over from the 760. From '92 the 960 was re-equipped with a
Volvo designed straight 6 engine B6304, basically same engine as the 850's
except with one extra cylinder (as stated by Mark). It was available
initially as a 3 litre, but a 2.5 litre version soon joined the line. I
believe this is the one the original poster is talking about.
The V6 equipped 960 wasn't available to the US market, they only introduced
960 in '92 when they received the new engine. However there is a version of
960 available in US in '91, it was equipped with a turbocharged straight 4
and rebadged "940 SE" (quite different to a 940 Turbo), which is confusing
because the turbocharged straight 4 version of 760 is still called 760. I
guess they probably changed it to stay with the Volvo naming system, where
the 2nd digit means how many cylinders it has.
Will
'90 744 GL
JDS
it is too. Only let down really can be the rear main oil seal that can let
go for no reason. 850's are prone too.
As far as fuel goes I don't think there is must between them, I get mid 20's
from both of mine in mixed driving dropping under only when towing nearly
two tons of caravan.
My choice would be a CD exec model or one with the lux pack fitted. Piped
leather etc.
John
2 960 3.0L CD EXEC estate's(yes greedy I know!)
Denley
850 engine, with a extra cylinder added on, giving a 204bhp straight 6 24v.
My father has one running on LPG conversion - It beats a lot of GTI's and
boy racers, unless they go round a corner!!!
The 2.5 is the same, but it has a slightly different autobox I believe, the
two are almost identical, but the 3litre is one second faster to 60mph and
uses 1mpg more fuel than the 2.5, but your still talking low-20'mpg
consupmtion realistically.
Unless you really are a power freak, I would go with the 2.5, both beat the
hell out of my B280 engined 760 with a measly 170Bhp (Few mods).
I'm not sure what the power output of the 2.5 straight 6 24v is, Anybody?
Andy
(89, V6 760 118k)
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Ton Franken
I own a '95 960 with straight 6 3.0L motor. In the 24 years that I have been
driving Volvo (not had another mark), it is by far the most comfortabel and
powerfull of them all (204 HP). Don't buy a 960 from before '95 while it has
the old V6 from the French works (also in the Renault safrane): that engine
is not so reliable.
Furthermore, in '95 the interior is remodelled and much more modern
(interior looks like 850, but is , of course, much wider).
The 2,5 motor is good, but not so powerfull (170 HP): buy it only when you
don't want high performance. The 3.0L straight 6 is (especially with
automatic gear) a very fast, quick and powerfull car: much more fun to drive
(many BMW's are surprised)!
There's another point: while the 3.0L is much more unique (in my
country -Holland- there are also few), it has more trading value when the
car is old: people who are looking for an old but very special VOLVO will
give more for a 960 3.0L.
Greetings from Holland
Ton Franken
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Lars Vermundsberget
> driving Volvo (not had another mark), it is by far the most comfortabel and
> powerfull of them all (204 HP). Don't buy a 960 from before '95 while it has
> the old V6 from the French works (also in the Renault safrane): that engine
> is not so reliable.
To my knowledge, NO 960 is supposed to have the "French" V6 engine. It
has been pointed out that the 960 was introduced to the US in about
1992. At the same time it is assumed that earlier 960s elsewhere (in
Europe?) had the old V6. Would anyone be able to confirm this? As far
as I know, this should not be the case at all. Here in Europe
(Scandinavia at least) the 960 was introduced for the 1991 model year
in the summer/fall of 90 - and the big news then was that it did have
the new I6 engine.
BTW, a 4 cyl 960 Turbo is known to exist in certain markets.
Peter Milnes
first year. William Lao in Australia will be able to confirm this as he has
posted the information before. The later V6 (B280) was a lot more reliable than
the earlier one (B28).
Cheers, Peter.
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: > I own a '95 960 with straight 6 3.0L motor. In the 24 years that I have been
William Liao
still had the old PRV V6 (B280), being a spare parts manager at a Volvo
dealer he knows his Volvo VERY well.
I also have '91 and '92 Volvo catalogues from Japan (bought off eBay). The
'91 catalogue also said the 960 has the PRV V6, and the '92 catalogue said
the 960 now has the "new" Volvo inline 6, basically what the spare parts guy
told me.
Will
'90 744 GL
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Ton Franken
The V6 motor was produced in the factory in Douvrin (Northern FRANCE!). This
plant was a joint venture of VOLVO, Renault and Peugeot. From about 1976
this plant existed and was producing for the 264's, 760's, ealier 960's +
Renault Safrane + Peugeot 605. Iám sorry but it's sadly true: it was in
France, but nowadays the 6motors are not anymore from that rotten factory!
Greetings from Holland
Ton Franken
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Denley
the B280 is not a rotton motor, it's good!!!
I like it and think it's great, it will give a 24v straight 6 a good run for
it's money, it would probably do better if it wasn't for the crappy auto box
+ Overdrive...
Andy
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Ashok Aiyar
Denley (an...@nospam.freeserve.co.uk) wrote:
> you forgot the renault 25!
And the DeLorean -- came with a PRV B28.
> I like it and think it's great, it will give a 24v straight 6 a good run for
> it's money, it would probably do better if it wasn't for the crappy auto box
> + Overdrive...
Seems to require more maintenance than Volvo's inline 6,
or 4-cyl engines.