Who makes Toyota Oil filter?
Greg
oil filter to replace the Toyota branded one.
The Toyota filter looks and feels to be better built than my name brand one.
Who makes the Toyota oil filter?
What's the best filter to buy for a Tercel?
Why the heck is it cranked on soooooooooooo tight?!?
Careful, check out http://members.nbci.com/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html
first. You maybe surprised at the results.
Greg
Kaysue555
>The Toyota filter looks and feels to be better built than my name brand one.
I recall a Consumer Reports test a few years ago that rated the Toyota filter
as very poor in its ability to remove particles. Since all the other big-name
filters tested better, I presume the Toyota filter was not one of theirs.
Edward J. Neth
"Greg" <gr...@ica.net> wrote in message
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--Philip--
>The Toyota filter looks and feels to be better built than my name brand one.
WHAT? Do you have extrasensory tactility or sumthin? What H.E.double
toothpicks can you tell about an oil filter simply by holding the unopened
assembly in you hand? Good grief.
-Philip-
"Anything that offends common sense
will be embraced by an intellectual"
Greg
"--Philip--" <chip...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >The Toyota filter looks and feels to be better built than my name brand
one.
>
--Philip--
>> toothpicks can you tell about an oil filter simply by holding the unopened
>> assembly in you hand?
>Wide gasket, clean holes and threads and lots of holes.
>
AS IF ... that meant anything significant. The filter media quality, the
bypass valve, and backflow valve quality cannot be gauged without disassembly.
Hank
indicator of what is on the inside.
I agree ND could be the manufacturer or maybe Vesrah?
When replying, keep in mind that ----
KAM is the Canadian version of the popular american 'meat'
get it?
Douglas Riggs
for some 22 years and he always pushed me to buy genuine Toyota parts for certain
items for my previous Tercel 4WD wagon and now Corolla All-Trac wagon, and oil
filters were among those. Now this may have been a total fluke, but the one
occasion where I failed to use a Toyota oil filter, the darn thing stripped off the
post and feel out onto the road while I was driving to work. I've used genuine
Toyota for many and most things since then. There is a parts guy at the local
dealership who gives 15% and 20% discounts regularly. Last time I was there, they
were having a sale on oil filters and Danny (the parts guy) convinced me to buy a
couple of extra ones. $2.50 a piece. They've been reliable and with the right
place of purchase, they've been relatively inexpensive.
Sorry for being so long winded.
Douglas
Curtis Newton wrote:
> On 12 Nov 2000 11:14:50 GMT, kays...@aol.comnojunk (Kaysue555)
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >>The Toyota filter looks and feels to be better built than my name brand one.
> >
> >I recall a Consumer Reports test a few years ago that rated the Toyota filter
> >as very poor in its ability to remove particles. Since all the other big-name
> >filters tested better, I presume the Toyota filter was not one of theirs.
>
> I remember that report also, back in 1993, I think??? However, from
> my observations, since that report, one of their top rated filters is
> now in the market to build them in large quantity and cheaply.
> http://members.nbci.com/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html
> Make sure to read the letter from the Fram employee. Kind of
> enlightening.
>
> I get the OEM filter from the dealership for around $4 a filter. So,
> even though the orange box at Wal-Mart may be $2.50-$3.00, I don't
> mind spending a bit more and getting the OEM filter.
>
> I am sure we all have our high mileage stories, probably some with
> Fram, but at 253,000 miles on our 88 Camry, I am going to stay with
> Pennzoil 10W30 and an OEM filter every 3,000-4,000 miles.
>
> I don't have any intention of creating a filter war, as YMMV.
>
> -
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>
> Unless the suppliers have changed, it is Nippondenso.
>
> "Greg" <gr...@ica.net> wrote in message
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It will say "ND" if its made in Japan, but some of the trucks use a USA
made one, which I beleive is made by purolater.
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made one, which I beleive is made by purolater<<
I just changed the oil in my 99 Corolla for the third time with a purolater
filter. I don't see a problem with using Toyota's filter other than that I
can buy the purolater at 2.50 per and all the Consumer Reports I've read
rate it equally or better than Toyota's. Given how easy it is to change oil
on a Toyota and the consequences of doing the job incorrectly I don't
understand why more people don't change their own oil. I'm sure that "most"
dealerships do a good job on an oil change but it just takes ONE bad change
to screw you. I know people who've reported stripped threads on their drain
pan screw at the cost of $200+ to fix. Other problems have been overfilled
resevoir and the wrong grade oil. When you do it yourself you don't have to
worry about these problems. I changed my oil today and it only took me 15
minutes from start to finish for a total cost of $6.50 including filter and
four quarts of oil. Compare that against $22 or more at a dealership plus a
30 minute or more wait plus the time it takes to drive to and from the
dealership plus the uncertaintly of whether the job was done correctly and
you'll see the value in doing it yourself.
Edward J. Neth
"Rick Jones" <ssau...@switchboard.net> wrote in message
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|
| It will say "ND" if its made in Japan, but some of the trucks use a USA
Most of the replacement filters with the Toyota name sold in the U.S. are
labeled as made in the U.S.
As I recall, Purolator and Denso are tied together somehow and
have a manufacturing plant somewhere in the Japanese-plant belt
(i.e., Kentucky-Tennessee-Indiana - area).
Rick Jones
ANother note, you can get the ND filter from "Japan" with the "Crystal
Element", but it may have to be special ordered, some stores will stock
it also.
--Philip--
>indicator of what is on the inside.
I salute you with a Bronx cheer.
Jon & Jeri
joint venture of Purolator and Denso in Tennessee. Look at the filter
under "YZZA2" and you will see the prefix PD to confirm this. It has the
"Crystal" type element, and paper endcaps, but does NOT have a silicone
anti-drainback valve like its Japanese made twin.
All other Toyota filters I examined while the training and tech assistance
director for a chain of quick-lubes, were at the time made by Purolator to
Toyota specs in Salt Lake, or Fayetteville N.C. If I can be of further
help, please email me directly.
Jon.
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Wayne
Wayne
"Greg" <gr...@ica.net> wrote in message
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Rick Jones
>
> The small, American made Toyota Filter, 90915-YZZA2 is made by Purodenso, a
> joint venture of Purolator and Denso in Tennessee. Look at the filter
> under "YZZA2" and you will see the prefix PD to confirm this. It has the
> "Crystal" type element, and paper endcaps, but does NOT have a silicone
> anti-drainback valve like its Japanese made twin.
>
> All other Toyota filters I examined while the training and tech assistance
> director for a chain of quick-lubes, were at the time made by Purolator to
> Toyota specs in Salt Lake, or Fayetteville N.C. If I can be of further
> help, please email me directly.
>
> Jon.
>
I have never seen any Toyota filter without the "drain back valve", its
just a rubber flap visible from the small outer holes. The Purolater
ones will always have "letters" (YZZA) in the part number while the ND
units will be numbers "90915-02005" etc.
--Philip--
>under "YZZA2" and you will see the prefix PD to confirm this. It has the
>"Crystal" type element, and paper endcaps, but does NOT have a silicone
>anti-drainback valve like its Japanese made twin.
Let me ask the OBVIOUS question: Why in the world would a company make a
filter without an 'anti-drainback valve" when all of it's engines mount the
filter horizontally?
I will reserve judgement pending your reply.
Jon & Jeri
Nitrile/Neoprene rubber, instead of the orange/red colored silicone of its
Japanese twin. I did not mean to imply that it doesn't have one. I'll leave
that truism to folks who install PH-8A's/FL-1's to "gain capacity", at the
expense of very dry starts. It is interesting to note how stiff the YZZA2
anti-drainback valve becomes after 3-4k miles, yet the silicone "flap" stays
very pliable. If you can afford the extra $, I would go with the Japanese
made filter.
Also as far as I know, The only U.S. made Toyota filter that has the Crystal
Element, is the YZZA2. Every other U.S. Made Toyota filter I disassembled
and inspected, had a conventional, pleated design.
Jon
Rick Jones <ssau...@switchboard.net> wrote in message
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> Jon & Jeri wrote:
> >
> > The small, American made Toyota Filter, 90915-YZZA2 is made by
Purodenso, a
> > joint venture of Purolator and Denso in Tennessee. Look at the filter
> > under "YZZA2" and you will see the prefix PD to confirm this. It has
the
> > "Crystal" type element, and paper endcaps, but does NOT have a silicone
> > anti-drainback valve like its Japanese made twin.
> >
fescomputer
most relaible vcr on the market..........., being an electronics technician
for over 17 years on all major brands tv-vcr-camcorder I beg to differ. In
fact the Emerson vcr is one of the worst in relaibility requiring more
repairs and service than ANY other brand including even the symphonic brand,
in conclusion their opinion doesn't mean squat and anyone who gives any
weight at all to their opinion when contemplating a new purchase of anything
should have their nuts scalded with boiling 10w30 motor oil and be relegated
to the category of moron and gullable.
Just my informed two cents
mark
"Douglas Riggs" <ha...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> > >>The Toyota filter looks and feels to be better built than my name
brand one.
> > >
Jon & Jeri
charlatan w/o the credentials or experience I profess? The YZZA2 sure does
have an OBVIOUS anti-drainback valve, only it is not made of silicone, it's
Nitrile.
Jon
--Philip-- <chip...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Look at the filter
> >under "YZZA2" and you will see the prefix PD to confirm this. It has the
> >"Crystal" type element, and paper endcaps, but does NOT have a silicone
> >anti-drainback valve like its Japanese made twin.
>
Rick Jones
>
> The anti-drainback valve of the YZZA2 filter is made of black
> Nitrile/Neoprene rubber, instead of the orange/red colored silicone of its
> Japanese twin. I did not mean to imply that it doesn't have one. I'll leave
> that truism to folks who install PH-8A's/FL-1's to "gain capacity", at the
> expense of very dry starts. It is interesting to note how stiff the YZZA2
> anti-drainback valve becomes after 3-4k miles, yet the silicone "flap" stays
> very pliable. If you can afford the extra $, I would go with the Japanese
> made filter.
>
> Also as far as I know, The only U.S. made Toyota filter that has the Crystal
> Element, is the YZZA2. Every other U.S. Made Toyota filter I disassembled
> and inspected, had a conventional, pleated design.
>
> Jon
>
Great info John, another note on those "PH8A" capacity filters made for
Ford, though, they do screw on and the o-ring mate, they DO NOT have the
bypass valve as the Fords are in the block and not needed in the filter,
while Toyota uses the "bypass" in the filter itself, on a cold morning,
these Ford filters can pop with the cold oil which will generate real
high oil pressure in addition to having no drain back as you stated
leading to extended dry starts. I cringe whenever I see these PZ1, PH8A
etc on Toyotas.
Rick Jones
>
YEP, the filter itself will say "made in the US or Japan" ;-)
--
Jon & Jeri
Best one I remember was a PH8A I saw on an older Celica that looked like an
orange "mushroom". Case was really bulged, and it was a good thing The guy
was having it changed. Pressure had to be 2-300 PSI.
Shame with Fram is they have fantastic filter paper, but terrible/irregular
QC in manufacture. I saw a factory crushed filter element out of a PH4967.
One pleat was torn open, and factory cured adhesive was slathered in the
crushed endcaps. I
once had a bad batch of Wix filters where 2 out of a bulk pack of 12 had NO
THREADS!!! I found out, because one of the techs I was training, kept
saying the filter did not fit. Also I autopsied a Purolator made, QS3593A
that had the bypass valve stuck open. Can you say unfiltered oil ;0
I won't even go into the horrors I saw concerning oil quality, wrong
applications, and folklore/urban legend while working in training and as a
lubricants/filter sales rep.
Well maybe just one. Had a lube tech that said he was experienced. I asked
him to add oil to a 3.0 Ford Taurus. Shortly, I hear, "HEY JON!!!" sure
enough, he filled it till oil was coming out of the valve cover! I thought
I heard the shop compressor kick on a few times.... Guess I should write a
book. "horrors at the quick lube". I liken many quick lubes to hotdogs, if
you only knew what was in them, you wouldn't eat/ go to one....
Jon
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Jon & Jeri
an up to date #. Nippondenso isn't even called Nippondenso here in the U.S.
All of their sparkplugs are now Labeled "Denso", even the new set of
Iridiums I have coming in for my Camry, are so named. Maybe with all of the
corporate name changing, P/N's have changed as well.
Jon
Curtis Newton <cnewton....@akamail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:35:56 -0500, "Jon & Jeri"
> <fur...@hsonline.net> wrote:
>
> >The anti-drainback valve of the YZZA2 filter is made of black
> >Nitrile/Neoprene rubber, instead of the orange/red colored silicone of
its
> >Japanese twin. I did not mean to imply that it doesn't have one. I'll
leave
> >that truism to folks who install PH-8A's/FL-1's to "gain capacity", at
the
> >expense of very dry starts. It is interesting to note how stiff the
YZZA2
> >anti-drainback valve becomes after 3-4k miles, yet the silicone "flap"
stays
> >very pliable. If you can afford the extra $, I would go with the Japanese
> >made filter.
> >
>
> To summarize, do I have this correct???
>
> Nippendenso 90915-02005 = Japanese
> Purolator 90915-YZZA2 = American
Tom
automobiles there is. You want a useless review, read one of the car magazines,
they review every car like you are going to race it or drive it on the
Autobahn. Consumer reports does an good real world test of an
automobile, and factor in important data like safety, reliability, and
economy. Instead of G forces and Slalom times, they measure emergency
handling. If you are looking for a performance vehicle, and speed and
racetrack performance are important to you, then read what Car and Driver
and the other Car mags have to say, but for the average consumer, Consumer
reports car reviews are superior to other magazines.
Many times a car reviewer will really harp on something good or bad that
just doesn't matter to you.
Like all reviews you need to use it simply as information and weigh in what's
important to you,and in the end use your own judgment.
Curtis Newton wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:56:17 GMT, "fescomputer" <fesco...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> >in conclusion their opinion doesn't mean squat and anyone who gives any
> >weight at all to their opinion when contemplating a new purchase of anything
> >should have their nuts scalded with boiling 10w30 motor oil and be relegated
> >to the category of moron and gullable.
> >
>
> ouch!
Tony
thing with eectronics is the companies keep changing.....Good example
Samsung Tvs used to be one of better TVs for the money now they are
crap....Zenith is another....they get bought by other companies and
quality goes down....The Emerson vcr of today may be a better than the
tv of past.....my friend has a emerson vcr thats 18 years old :-).
Thanks Tony.
Tony
L1159 .....i believe....cause thats what my car requires :-)
Thanks Tony.
biasbros
"fescomputer" <fesco...@home.com> wrote in message
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> You have to remember that consumer reports listed the Emerson vcr as the
> most relaible vcr on the market..........., being an electronics
technician
> for over 17 years on all major brands tv-vcr-camcorder I beg to differ. In
> fact the Emerson vcr is one of the worst in relaibility requiring more
> repairs and service than ANY other brand including even the symphonic
brand,
> weight at all to their opinion when contemplating a new purchase of
anything
> should have their nuts scalded with boiling 10w30 motor oil and be
relegated
> to the category of moron and gullable.
>
> mark
What you are not considering is the fact that CR is only REPORTING reader
feedback in their reliability stats. Plus I am sure there are a billion
Emerson vcrs in use, you would have to have sales figures vs breakage to
make a fair assessment of the reliability. I am also an amp tech, I see a
lot of new Fender and Crate amps with broken solder, but I also know they
are selling like popcorn and are not necessary less reliable than others,
just more plentiful.
It amazes me that so many people read a magazine expressing an opinion, and
then are upset because the opinion expressed does not match their own and
the magazine is not an end-all, state of the art definitive document. I am
grateful for Consumer Reports, I can get all kinds of stats and info all in
one article, they are gathering an opinion of products all right next to
each other, all at the same time. How many of you have that same
opportunity? Their subjective analysis is just that, that person's opinion.
One tester thought the armrest in a Camry was "intrusive". Well, I LIKE the
armrest in the Camry, but that didn't put me on the path of writing off any
info they provide.
Roy
Jon & Jeri
Actually I think the direct cross of a Fram PH 3593A to Purolator is L14459.
The L14459 is a little more squat, but larger in diameter. I said QS3593A,
which is a Purolator L14459, painted green, and sold by Quaker State. (where
the QS prefix comes from) The same Purolator made filter sold by Mighty,
was named a 4459. Funny how these names come about
I did notice the new Castrol and Penske brand filters sold at K-mart are
made by WIX.
Jon
Tony <TW...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Dave S
----------
In article <QunQ5.101627$78.31...@news3.rdc1.on.home.com>, "Greg"
<gr...@ica.net> wrote:
> So, from experience which would you say it the best filter to buy for the
> Tercel. The "Toyota" one or one of the "Big" name brands?
>
> Model number appreciated.
>
> TIA
> Greg
>
>
Greg
Greg
Tony
Thanks Tony.
Jon & Jeri
Wix filters were always an enigma to me while in the quick lube business.
They are well engineered, have tough, heavy duty innards, but at the same
time, QC glitches shook my faith in them.
The filters used at our quick lubes were Phillips 66 Trop-Artics, made under
contract by WIX. We bought about 100k of them a year. Ironic, but
Phillip's Canadian made PO-4459, (direct cross to a Fram PH3593A) had very
faulty anti-drainback valves. I saw, as mentioned in a previous post,
Phillips PO-1's (PH-8A equivalent) that had no threads cut in the base
plate. On numerous occasions, I saw mis-formed roll seams, and even had some
filters with pin holes in the shell because the case/shell was stretched too
thin while drawing, thus causing a fissure.
The problem got to such a level, that I requested, and Phillips sent, a
high level manager to save the account that I wanted terminated. I know by
the sheer volume of filters I was around, problems are bound to happen, and
happen with any brand.
I do notice though, albeit with a critical eye, some Wix made filters in
various stores with crappy, raggedy threads that appear to have been hewn
with a dull file. Yes, roll formed threads are not as sharp as cut threads,
but the ones I saw were shallow and non-concentric. Other makers,
especially Purolator in my experience, roll fairly good threads.
I use Toyota filters for my Camry, but if I did not, I would probably use a
Purolator Pure-One.
Sorry for the length of my soapbox.
Jon
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