which spark plugs?
Michael
be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's-
really-long) as approved replacement plugs.
Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really
convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last
year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each.
Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two
possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser-
etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for
about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum.
Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so.
Toyota part 90919-01194.
Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones?
C. E. White
PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs.
The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20.
The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess
is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug
P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use.
If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at:
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder/car_truck_suv/default.asp?mode=nml
They list the following plugs for your car:
Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553
V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990
G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092
Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the
OE Service Part
Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764
I checked a few on line stores for prices:
Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each
Advance Auto carries the following plugs:
*Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49
*Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99
*NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89
*NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99
*NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59
If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253)
plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11
(Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice.
I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite,
Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right
for your application.
Ed
"Michael" <mrda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:162a3c2f-692f-42ed...@l12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Michael
wrote:
> I'd suggest looking at the Denso on-line application guide. See:
>
>
> PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs.
> The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20.
> The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess
> is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug
> P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use.
>
> If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at:
>
>
> They list the following plugs for your car:
>
> Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553
> V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990
> G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092
> Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the
> OE Service Part
> Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764
>
> I checked a few on line stores for prices:
>
> Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each
> Advance Auto carries the following plugs:
> *Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49
> *Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59
>
> If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253)
> plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11
> (Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice.
>
> I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite,
> Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right
> for your application.
>
> Ed
>
>
> news:162a3c2f-692f-42ed...@l12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would
> > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's-
> > really-long) as approved replacement plugs.
>
> > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really
> > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last
> > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each.
>
> > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two
> > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser-
> > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for
> > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum.
>
> > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so.
> > Toyota part 90919-01194.
>
> > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones?
Wow thanks for the research and the sites!
Just wondering, what are the drawbacks going for the $3 plugs? Would
I get superior mileage going for the more expensive plugs? Or is
there the risk that the metal electrode will fall off?
Michael
>
>
> PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs.
> The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20.
> The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess
> is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug
> P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use.
>
> If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at:
>
>
> They list the following plugs for your car:
>
> Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553
> V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990
> G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092
> Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the
> OE Service Part
> Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764
>
> I checked a few on line stores for prices:
>
> Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each
> Advance Auto carries the following plugs:
> *Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49
> *Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59
>
> If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253)
> plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11
> (Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice.
>
> I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite,
> Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right
> for your application.
>
> Ed
>
>
> news:162a3c2f-692f-42ed...@l12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would
> > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's-
> > really-long) as approved replacement plugs.
>
> > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really
> > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last
> > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each.
>
> > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two
> > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser-
> > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for
> > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum.
>
> > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so.
> > Toyota part 90919-01194.
>
> > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones?
Yep the NGK BKR6EKPB-11 is the one the manual spec'd, along with the
Denso PK20TR11.
I'll see what Autozone has in stock. It's also on the way home from
work.
Thanks again,
Michael
Michael
>
>
> PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs.
> The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20.
> The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess
> is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug
> P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use.
>
> If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at:
>
>
> They list the following plugs for your car:
>
> Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553
> V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990
> G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092
> Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the
> OE Service Part
> Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764
>
> I checked a few on line stores for prices:
>
> Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each
> Advance Auto carries the following plugs:
> *Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49
> *Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99
> *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59
>
> If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253)
> plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11
> (Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice.
>
> I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite,
> Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right
> for your application.
>
> Ed
>
>
> news:162a3c2f-692f-42ed...@l12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would
> > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's-
> > really-long) as approved replacement plugs.
>
> > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really
> > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last
> > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each.
>
> > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two
> > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser-
> > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for
> > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum.
>
> > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so.
> > Toyota part 90919-01194.
>
> > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones?
I just discovered, I have three NGK BKR6EIX-11 iridium spark plugs on
my shelf (long story). Would these work? I'd only have to buy one
more to fit in the car, if these will work ok.
Tegger
news:dc5f5139-e00b-450d...@s36g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> I just discovered, I have three NGK BKR6EIX-11 iridium spark plugs on
> my shelf (long story). Would these work? I'd only have to buy one
> more to fit in the car, if these will work ok.
No. These plugs are not suitable for your engine because they only have a
single ground electrode. Your engine has a wasted-spark ignition system
that requires dual ground electrodes.
Toyota does not recommend non-platinum plugs for your car, so I would spend
the extra cash and get what Toyota specifies, which is:
Denso PK20TR11 (also sold as Toyota 90919-01194)
or
NGK BKR6EKPB11
I'm told that some aftermarket ND plugs come with screw-cap tops, even if
they are otherwise identical to OEM Toyota. So check for that if buying ND
plugs in the aftermarket. The screw-caps can come loose, and cause problems
with arcing and damage. OEM Toyota ND plugs have solid tops.
--
Tegger
JoeSpareBedroom
================
I can tell you that based on the recent experience of an acquaintance, you
do NOT want the electrode to fall off. It's interesting, sort of like having
your shirt catch fire. That sort of interesting.
MLD
How often do you change plugs? For you it's been 11 years since new--is it
worth going for the cheapies?
Michael
> "Michael" <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I got it used at 67k miles, and put Bosch plugs in then. It's now at
97k miles or so.
Michael
dsi1
Do not worry. My guess is that the laser spark plugs are a marketing
gimmick, much like Angus beef and new improved Tide. If your electrode
falls off, it's likely due to a manufacturing defect. I've never heard
of this happening. Worry instead of an asteroid crashing into the Earth
and ending all human life.
Hachiroku ハチロク
I think the ones for $13-14 are Iridium, really no need to use these in
your car.
Denso Platinum are ~$6 each, these will do just fine.
$3 plugs are standard copper, and usually not recommended by Toyota. You
could use an NGK V-power or U-Groove, but you'll be changing them again in
20,000-40,000 miles.
I'm lazy. $6 for 70-100,000 miles is good for me...
Michael
Where do you typically find the Denso? I'm thinking of going online
at rockauto.com since no one sells them for a reasonable price over
here in Sacramento.
Thanks,
Michael
Hachiroku ハチロク
I think I used NGKs from AutoZone. NGK, Denso, about the same.
Just don't use Champions if you want the car to actually START below 45
degrees...
Your car's easy. I did it on a Supra and had to remove the entire intake!
I certainly went with a high-mileage plug!
Michael
Those are $10 each over here!
> Just don't use Champions if you want the car to actually START below 45
> degrees...
Ok, thanks.
> Your car's easy. I did it on a Supra and had to remove the entire intake!
> I certainly went with a high-mileage plug!
Point well taken!
Michael
Michael
Finally found the PK20TR11 Densos at CarQuest here. $7.16 each.
Beats waiting for an internet order to arrive via mail.
Thanks all!
Michael Darrett
Hachiroku ハチロク
>> I think I used NGKs from AutoZone. NGK, Denso, about the same. Just
>> don't use Champions if you want the car to actually START below 45
>> degrees...
>>
>> Your car's easy. I did it on a Supra and had to remove the entire
>> intake! I certainly went with a high-mileage plug!
>
>
> Finally found the PK20TR11 Densos at CarQuest here. $7.16 each. Beats
> waiting for an internet order to arrive via mail.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Michael Darrett
Congrats, Mike.
I forget about CarQuest (even though I used to work at one) because they
closed the one I used to work at and the next closest are ~20 miles away.
Michael
I changed the plugs, and the old ones were in good condition, except
the first two (on the left, and second from the left) had some oil on
the top part of the threads. (The bottom part of the threads, near
the sparking end, were clean.)
Bad valve cover gasket?
Michael
Ray O
I forget what model year and engine you have, but if it is the type where
the spark plugs are at the bottom of a well in the valve cover, the o-ring
at the bottom of the well could be leaking.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)