{BS} Hey, it's just part of the "Arab Spring" celebration!!!
Hachiroku ハチロク
thousands of Palestinians and their supporters amassed on its borders to
protest its creation 63 years ago – an event they refer to as the
"nakba," or catastrophe. Ten people were killed and hundreds injured as
some protesters attempted to breach Israel's borders and clashes broke out
with Israeli security forces.
The unprecedented protests, fueled by both a spirit of uprising and a
moribund peace process, have reignited Arab-Israeli tensions over Israel's
sovereignty even as Palestinians are pressing for international
recognition of their own sovereignty at the UN this fall.
Arabs – and perhaps their leaders, eager to deflect criticism of their
own regimes – are rallying to the Palestinian cause with the same fervor
that has toppled two presidents and caused several regimes to teeter.
JoeSpareBedroom
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> Israel got its first real taste of the Arab spring Sunday as tens of
> thousands of Palestinians and their supporters amassed on its borders to
> "nakba," or catastrophe. Ten people were killed and hundreds injured as
> some protesters attempted to breach Israel's borders and clashes broke out
> with Israeli security forces.
>
> The unprecedented protests, fueled by both a spirit of uprising and a
> moribund peace process, have reignited Arab-Israeli tensions over Israel's
> sovereignty even as Palestinians are pressing for international
> recognition of their own sovereignty at the UN this fall.
>
> own regimes - are rallying to the Palestinian cause with the same fervor
> that has toppled two presidents and caused several regimes to teeter.
>
You're a cut & paste expert. At least you're good at SOMETHING.
Hachiroku ハチロク
At least I have opinions on things. Something you seem to lack.
JoeSpareBedroom
You never ask for my opinions on things.
Hachiroku ハチロク
You have plenty of opportunities.
Here, try this: why does Obama hate Israel?
JoeSpareBedroom
I don't think he hates Israel, so I can't answer that one. I *do* think he
expects Israel to break the stalemate that's been in place for almost half a
century, and that's not unreasonable. No other entity in the region has the
stones to compromise, apparently.
Steampunk
From what I read from Obama, the only way Israel can "break the stalemate"
is to give back Palestine.
JoeSpareBedroom
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Sounds interesting. Can we see what you read? Do you have a link?
Steampunk
No, I mean read his CHARACTER!
Sorry, no link for reading character.
JoeSpareBedroom
Oh...OK. I thought you meant that maybe you had some insights from someone
with enough information to be worth believing.
Steampunk
Are you a twit, or a brick?
You can't get the gist of a person from what he actually says?
And what makes you think I don't have enough insight?
You appear to be either a troll, or an idiot. Perhaps both.
JoeSpareBedroom
I've heard nothing from Obama which backs up your "perception" that he
thinks Israel should "give back Palestine". Maybe you can explain where you
got that from. Saying "from Obama" is not a valid answer. We need more
details than that.
Hachiroku ハチロク
BWAHAHAHA! Here he goes again! Old JoeBS again demonstrating his uncanny
ability to think for himself. For all the reading you supposedly do, you
sure don't gain anything from it.
JoeSpareBedroom
I already thought for myself, just before teaching Steampunk that Obama has
said or done nothing which backs up his claim.
Maybe you and he should be roommates. You both "hear things". You could save
money by carpooling to your psychiatrists. Share your meds, too.
Steampunk
Are you really that thick? Do you listen to what the man says, or watch
what he does? Everything about him pertaining to Israel reeks of
Antisemitism. He snubbed them when he became President, and then went on a
tour of the Arab world. Have you heard the term "Arab Spring"? I'd suggest
you do some reading and find out about it, because or President is behind
it 100%.
And if anyone needs teaching, it's you, since you seem incapable of
actually understanding what people say and do. Obama says volumes about
what he thinks about Israel in his handling of the country.
I ask again: is this man a twit, a troll, or just a brick?
Charles Grozny
And the correct answer is D. All of the above.
Charles Grozny
Hachiroku ハチロク
> I already thought for myself, <SLAP!>
When did THAT ever happen, Dougie?!?!
I have yet to see you think for yourself, without having the NYT of
Rolling Stone tell you what to think.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hachiroku ハチロク
Our resident idiot still thinking he's 'teaching' others. What a jamoke.
JoeSpareBedroom
That was a carefully calculated move to inform the Israelis of the fact that
they're a country, not a religion, and that it's time for them to consider
new ideas. Someone told you to think anti-semitism was involved. You should
stop listening to that "someone".
> Have you heard the term "Arab Spring"? I'd suggest
> you do some reading and find out about it, because or President is behind
> it 100%.
That's a good thing. Explain why you have a problem with the concept of an
"arab spring".
> And if anyone needs teaching, it's you, since you seem incapable of
> actually understanding what people say and do. Obama says volumes about
> what he thinks about Israel in his handling of the country.
The world does not revolve around Israel. It's just a country like any
other.
JoeSpareBedroom
And television is somehow better than the NYT? In what way?
Sorry to ask such a confusing question, but I had to. You'll never be able
to answer it.
Hachiroku ハチロク
In that you actually hear the person say the words for himself, rather
than get it third hand from a reporter who puts his spin and what he wants
you to believe in the mix.
>
> Sorry to ask such a confusing question, but I had to. You'll never be able
> to answer it.
Au contraire, mon ami. I *CAN* think for myself; I don't have to run to
the NYT or Rolling Stone to make up my mind for me.
game, set, match. Again.
Hachiroku ハチロク
ROTFLMAO!!! Gee Dougie, did you actually HEAR what the President HIMSELF
said? Or do you have to wait until after tomorrow morning to get your
response from some "reporter"?
>
>
>> Have you heard the term "Arab Spring"? I'd suggest
>> you do some reading and find out about it, because or President is behind
>> it 100%.
>
> That's a good thing. Explain why you have a problem with the concept of an
> "arab spring".
At the obliteration of Israel? Yeah.
>
>
>> And if anyone needs teaching, it's you, since you seem incapable of
>> actually understanding what people say and do. Obama says volumes about
>> what he thinks about Israel in his handling of the country.
>
> The world does not revolve around Israel. It's just a country like any
> other.
For the time being. Poor Dougie. What color is the sky in your world today?
Hachiroku ハチロク
> On 2011-05-19 17:17:45 -0700, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> said:
>
>> On Thu, 19 May 2011 14:25:33 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom puked:
>>> The world does not revolve around Israel. It's just a country like any
>>> other.
>>
>>
>> For the time being. Poor Dougie. What color is the sky in your world today?
>
> Just a country like any other?
>
> Insanity must be congenital in Rochester.
>
> I'd rather we have Israel on our southern border than, say, Iran. Or Mexico.
Beats being surrounded by Arabs being whipped into a frenzy by an American
Empty Suit.
JoeSpareBedroom
>> And television is somehow better than the NYT? In what way?
>
> In that you actually hear the person say the words for himself, rather
> than get it third hand from a reporter who puts his spin and what he wants
> you to believe in the mix.
So:
"third hand"?
In what way is newspaper information "third hand"?????
You'd better answer this question in detail or this thread will go on for
weeks.
Hachiroku ハチロク
No, it won't.
Hachiroku ハチロク
> I taught him long ago that his chaotic "thought" processes don't
> determine this.
>
> Just inform him that he's not in charge. Kids on the little bus never are.
I can't understand a "groan" man needing someone else to tell him what
someone said.
JoeSpareBedroom
Correct. It won't, because you made a mistake. Non-TV news is no more "third
hand" than what you watch on TV. In fact, what TV reporters read is MORE
likely to have been written and/or heavily edited by someone else.
Hachiroku ハチロク
> He thinks he doesn't. After teaching him of his error-laden beliefs,
> he still holds on.
>
> Insolence, pure and simple.
Did you see it's latest response? TV news is third hand, so newspapers are
better. The idea of actually hearing the words from the person uttering
them flew right over it's pointed little head! :)
JoeSpareBedroom
> On Fri, 20 May 2011 06:54:39 -0700, Conscience wrote:
>
>>
>>> On Fri, 20 May 2011 06:13:03 -0700, Conscience wrote:
>>>
How do you know that TV announcer wrote the story? If he/she did not, it's
third-hand information, as you put it.
JoeSpareBedroom
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> On 2011-05-20 13:47:28 -0700, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...@e86.GTS> said:
>
>> On Fri, 20 May 2011 06:54:39 -0700, Conscience wrote:
>>
> stories.
I never said every single newspaper writes their own stories. Find another
angle, and make it quick. The rapture bullshit happens tomorrow.
Hachiroku ハチロク
HOW MUCH OF AN IDIOT ARE YOU?!?!?!
I have been talking about getting the actual WORDS from the person
HIMSELF, NOT a "story"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like when Obama says something,
getting it right FROM Obama!
Jeebus! Thick as a Brick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JoeSpareBedroom
You just hate reading.
> Like when Obama says something,
> getting it right FROM Obama!
His last speech was almost 45 minutes long. You listened to sound bites
gathered for you by your "news source". Those excerpts totalled 11 seconds.
You think you got the whole story.
Hachiroku ハチロク
I'm sure all it took was 11 seconds to get the gist of what he had to say.
He repeats himself often.
Charles Grozny
"Hachiroku ????" <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote in message
Now you see why I put him on the trash list. I'm not even sure right at
this point that he could even be counted as a sentient being.
Charles Grozny
JoeSpareBedroom
I'm sure that if your mom read the things you write here, she'd find a way
to kill you, even if it meant burning down the whole house with you in it.
JoeSpareBedroom
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> Now you see why I put him on the trash list. I'm not even sure right at
> this point that he could even be counted as a sentient being.
>
> Charles Grozny
>
.....said the boy who imagines Muslim plots against his church's landscaping
committee.