OT - essays re: GWB & what he's thinking
Cathy F.
http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26997/index.html
Cathy
Cathy F.
"dbu" <ns...@nojoke.com> wrote in message
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> In article <2dOdnYX1dPBhvFjY...@giganews.com>,
> So how much of this kind of stuff have you posted in the past months. I
> can tell by the subject line what the point of the posting will be, so
> why do I want to bother reading it, I've read it all before, in fact
> years before. You and your buddies have been posting this kind of tripe
> before the FIRST Bush election, it's been going on for SIX years now.
We've been dealing w/GWB being President for 6 years now, & have 2 more to
go...
> So why should I pay any attention to it. I've read it all before, I
> know where it comes from and I know it's political BS, hateful BS
> against Bush. I pay it no attention. GOT IT?
So, don't read it. No one's forcing you to. (Unlike *having* to have GWB
as one's President when one thinks he's doing an absolutely sh*tty job.)
Cathy
> --
>
Cathy F.
> In article <M6Kdna7H8surtVjY...@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <cl...@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
>
>> "dbu" <ns...@nojoke.com> wrote in message
>> news:nspam-C1F2F3....@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <2dOdnYX1dPBhvFjY...@giganews.com>,
>> > "Cathy F." <cl...@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> An introductory essay, followed by a slew of shorter ones.
>> >>
>> >> http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26997/index.html
>> >>
>> >> Cathy
>> >
>> > What is this about then. Another critical article about the president.
>> > So how much of this kind of stuff have you posted in the past months.
>> > I
>> > can tell by the subject line what the point of the posting will be, so
>> > why do I want to bother reading it, I've read it all before, in fact
>> > years before. You and your buddies have been posting this kind of
>> > tripe
>> > before the FIRST Bush election, it's been going on for SIX years now.
>>
>> We've been dealing w/GWB being President for 6 years now, & have 2 more
>> to
>> go...
>
Well, a few at this point...
Quit thinking of
> yourself so much.
>
>
>> > So why should I pay any attention to it. I've read it all before, I
>> > know where it comes from and I know it's political BS, hateful BS
>> > against Bush. I pay it no attention.
Five "I"s in that one little paragraph. Hmmmm... "Quit thinking of yourself
so much."
Cathy
GOT IT?
>>
>> So, don't read it. No one's forcing you to. (Unlike *having* to have
>> GWB
>> as one's President when one thinks he's doing an absolutely sh*tty job.)
>>
>> Cathy
>
> I didn't.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> > --
>> >
> --
>
tak
"Cathy F." <cl...@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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hero, GWB, are imperious to fresh ideas and info. They seem to share a
common denominator of virtually no intellectual curiosity, and so when
dealing with common denominators, be prepared for the occasional division by
zero.
By the way, that presidential survey quiz URL that you posted was very
interesting and caused me to research some of the candidates further.
Cathy F.
"tak" <tak...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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Glad it was interesting. It'd be nice & helpful, IMO, to have a chart laid
out with all of the candidates' positions on all of the various issues, for
easier comparisons.
Cathy
>
>
badgolferman
I read the first page of that clearly partisan article and never saw
any reference to the true reason President George W. Bush has been worn
down in the eyes of his retractors. There was no mention of 9/11 nor
terrorism. To people like John Heilemann the attacks on America are a
distant past that they have completely forgotten or try to forget.
Fighting fanatical madmen bent on destroying the entire fabric of our
life while at the same time being demagogued by extremist forces he is
trying to protect will wear down any man entrusted to protect an entire
country from enemies within and abroad. Just the mere fact that he has
kept his cool and not used all his resources to dispatch of his
political enemies says much for the character of this man who is being
bedeviled by evil forces all around.
You don't know how good you have it that your life has not changed
whatsoever since September 11, 2001. If any of those Liberal appeasers
was in office today I shudder to think how quickly we would have had
total chaos inside our cities. All those homicide bombers that
terrorized Israel and now have concentrated their efforts in Iraq would
be here today. Just wait and see what will happen when you won't have
George W. Bush on the job anymore. Mark my words, you will regret the
attitude you have had regarding him.
Scott in Florida
wrote:
>are imperious to fresh ideas and info
Please tell us the 'new' liberal ideas....
--
Scott in Florida
'Let every nation know, whether it
wishes us well or ill, that we shall
pay any price, bear any burden,
meet any hardship, support any friend,
oppose any foe to assure the survival
and the success of liberty.'
John F. Kennedy
Scott in Florida
Here Here.....
Cathy F.
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Cathy F., 2/3/2007,7:00:19 PM, wrote:
>
>> An introductory essay, followed by a slew of shorter ones.
>>
>> http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26997/index.html
>>
>> Cathy
>
> I read the first page of that clearly partisan article
Of course it was partisan - that was extremely obvious. It was also obvious
that the author's POV re: GWB has changed since when he met him in the
early-mid 90's.
<snipped>
>Just wait and see what will happen when you won't have
> George W. Bush on the job anymore. Mark my words, you will regret the
> attitude you have had regarding him.
I sincerely doubt that. I wasn't happy about his first term win (well...
sort of win), & as time went by, I became much less happy about it because
of his policies & attitude. The man has screwed things up left, right, &
center.
When someone says, "Mark my words", it's usually an indicator to largely
ignore those words.
Cathy
dh
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"Liberal appeasers?" Get real.
The fact is, we're bogged down in a war we did not need to fight - Iraq.
That's entirely Bush's responsibility. We make fresh enemies every day (per
the Saudis, the Israelis and our own intelligence service). You will regret
supporting this President.
--
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tak
"Scott in Florida" <askify...@mindspring.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:53:26 GMT, "tak" <tak...@frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
>
>>are imperious to fresh ideas and info
>
> Please tell us the 'new' liberal ideas....
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>
troll bait on the NG, but to provide one and just one example of your
resistance to fact vs. your preconceived opinions would be the matter of
potential Global Warming. You and your followers dismiss the substantial and
growing body of research that suggests we, as a world, had better start
taking the evidence a bit more seriously than you would have us believe. And
American businesses are also coming on board, perhaps out of concern,
perhaps seeing profits to be made in the growing evidence.
Good day,
T
badgolferman
> > Just wait and see what will happen when you won't have
> > George W. Bush on the job anymore. Mark my words, you will regret
> > the attitude you have had regarding him.
>
> I sincerely doubt that.
Tell me in your own words what you think would happen if we packed up
and left Iraq starting tomorrow. Give me a short term and long term
scenario please.
Cathy F.
> Cathy F., 2/3/2007,8:46:58 PM, wrote:
>
>> > Just wait and see what will happen when you won't have
>> > George W. Bush on the job anymore. Mark my words, you will regret
>> > the attitude you have had regarding him.
>>
>> I sincerely doubt that.
>
> Tell me in your own words what you think would happen if we packed up
> and left Iraq starting tomorrow.
It's not going to happen. AFAIK, only a few people want us out of there
completely, immediately. And I'm not one of them.
Give me a short term and long term
> scenario please.
That's exactly what GWB & Co. should've thought of before invading Iraq.
They never went beyond short term planning. Recipe for disaster, nevermind
the faux reasons that got us there to begin with...
Cathy
badgolferman
> > Tell me in your own words what you think would happen if we packed
> > up and left Iraq starting tomorrow.
>
> It's not going to happen. AFAIK, only a few people want us out of
> there completely, immediately. And I'm not one of them.
Who are those people? Are you willing to support them if they assume
full power?
> > Give me a short term and long term
> > scenario please.
I'm still asking for your opinion as to what would happen if we left
Iraq now.
larry moe 'n curly
dbu wrote:
> In article <2dOdnYX1dPBhvFjY...@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <cl...@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
>
> So how much of this kind of stuff have you posted in the past months. I
> can tell by the subject line what the point of the posting will be, so
> why do I want to bother reading it, I've read it all before, in fact
> years before. You and your buddies have been posting this kind of tripe
> before the FIRST Bush election, it's been going on for SIX years now.
> know where it comes from and I know it's political BS, hateful BS
> against Bush. I pay it no attention. GOT IT?
Then why did you reply to a message not directed specifically at
you? ;)
And why do you think it's hateful? Few accurate stories about GW Bush
can be complimentary, especially now.
larry moe 'n curly
dbu wrote:
> In article <M6Kdna7H8surtVjY...@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <cl...@adelphiadot.net> wrote:
> > We've been dealing w/GWB being President for 6 years
> > now, & have 2 more to go...
>
> Tough shit. Other people like what he's doing.
But the same could have been said about any leader in history, whether
that leader was good or bad.
All those people who approved of GW Bush are responsible for allowing
one of the worst foreign policy disasters in US history to occur. You
cannot avoid this responsibility, no matter how ignorant or foolish
you were.
mack
> We've been dealing w/GWB being President for 6 years now, & have 2 more to
> go...
thanks a lot for reminding me, Cathy.....I've been trying to keep it off of
my mind.
The only thing about his remaining two years is that Dick Cheney is his best
life insurance policy. So perhaps GWB isn't that dumb after all.
Cathy F.
"mack" <mack...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Cathy F." <cl...@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>
>> We've been dealing w/GWB being President for 6 years now, & have 2 more
>> to go...
>
> thanks a lot for reminding me, Cathy.....I've been trying to keep it off
> of my mind.
Sorry. <eg>
>
> The only thing about his remaining two years is that Dick Cheney is his
> best life insurance policy. So perhaps GWB isn't that dumb after all.
At first - as in 6 years ago, I thought, "Well, at least Cheney's bright &
alert & 'with-it'; there's hope." But then - all too quickly - discovered
that his intellect is of no (good) use, AFAICT. So... that leaves your
take, which may be the correct one. (And I do think GWB is prob. brighter
than he appears. But... arghhh.)
Cathy
>
>
mack
> Cathy F., 2/3/2007,10:15:06 PM, wrote:
> I'm still asking for your opinion as to what would happen if we left
> Iraq now.
The short answer is "nothing would change whether we leave Iraq tomorrow of
whether we stay two, three, five, ten or fifteen years from now". It's up
to the Iraqis to tidy up after us. Period. It's not worth another
American life or limb, IMHO.
(and no, it's not "cut and run", it's just being sensible.)
badgolferman
Thank you, Cathy.
Scott in Florida
wrote:
Yes it is 'cut and run'....and yes it would be a disaster....like most
things liberals propose...
--
Scott in Florida
mack
wonderful lack of thought processes! The fearless leader says 'cut and
run' about leaving Iraq, so that is what it must be.
After four years in that hellhole in the middle east, it's not cut and run,
it's called "cutting our losses".
If you think that would be a disaster, what would you call the last four
years? An unalloyed success?
Are you really interested in spending more lives, limbs and billions for
something that won't ever be a successful venture? Your comments remind
me of the folks who, 30+ years ago, said we couldn't leave Vietnam because
then all the people who had died there would have died in vain.
If you're interested, I could show you a long black marble monument with
over 58,000 names on it in Washington, DC. Each and every one of the
people named died in vain ...........for something we can hardly remember
now.
>
>
DH
He's got "Vietnam Victory Syndrome," primarily an affliction of the
simple-minded. Principal symptoms are that the sufferer thinks we're
winning any complicated, unnecessary and counter-productive war as long as
he's hearing about a good troops-lost to "enemy" body-count ratio.
Fight VVS! You can help! Slap a sufferer repeatedly with a rolled-up
newspaper featuring stories about car-bombings, allies pulling out, creation
of new terrorists and the rise in regional influence of radical regimes.
Well, OK, it won't help cure the VVS sufferer. But you'll probably enjoy
slapping them with the rolled-up newspaper, so go for it!
Cathy F.
And I'm still not answering, because as I said before, it isn't going to
happen. We will not leave, all-of-a-sudden, tomorrow or next week, all in
one fell swoop. So what's the point of asking the question?
Cathy
Mike Hunter
a degree for Yale and an MBA from Harvard. His GPA was higher than Kerry's
at Yale, as well. A lot of people could not understood Einstein when he
spoke, but nobody called him a dummy . ;)
mike
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JoeSpareBedroom
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>
> "Cathy F." <cl...@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>>>
>>> The only thing about his remaining two years is that Dick Cheney is his
>>> best life insurance policy. So perhaps GWB isn't that dumb after all.
>>
>> At first - as in 6 years ago, I thought, "Well, at least Cheney's bright
>> & alert & 'with-it'; there's hope." But then - all too quickly -
>> discovered that his intellect is of no (good) use, AFAICT. So... that
>> leaves your take, which may be the correct one. (And I do think GWB is
>> prob. brighter than he appears. But... arghhh.)
>>
>> Cathy
> Apparently GWB is smarter than your perception of him, it seems. He
> earned a degree for Yale and an MBA from Harvard. His GPA was higher than
> Kerry's at Yale, as well. A lot of people could not understood Einstein
> when he spoke, but nobody called him a dummy . ;)
>
>
>
> mike
>
Einstein never said things like this:
"And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount
of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll
work hard to try to elevate it."— Speaking on National Public Radio, Jan.
29, 2007.
You will now say that someone must've misunderstood Bush. So, let's crush
that idea right now. Listen to the boy actually saying those words:
http://download.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/specials/20070129_specials_completebushinterview.mp3
Scott in Florida
wrote:
>Are you really interested in spending more lives, limbs and billions for
>something that won't ever be a successful venture?
Absolutely!
Do you want America to lose?
Do you want the war to make it to our shores?
--
Scott in Florida
JoeSpareBedroom
Who told you to say that?
Scott in Florida
wrote:
>> I'm still asking for your opinion as to what would happen if we left
>> Iraq now.
>
>And I'm still not answering, because as I said before, it isn't going to
>happen. We will not leave, all-of-a-sudden, tomorrow or next week, all in
>one fell swoop. So what's the point of asking the question?
>
>Cathy
The smartest woman in the world (your Hillary Clintoon) says she will
end it....
--
Scott in Florida
Cathy F.
A lot of people want to end it. I want to end it. You asked what will
happen if we "left Iraq now." Not one & the same.
Cathy
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>
>
JoeSpareBedroom
I have a question, if you please. Before we invaded Iraq, do you think the
Iraqis ate food? Yes, or no?
JoeSpareBedroom
> Cathy F., 2/3/2007,7:00:19 PM, wrote:
>
>> An introductory essay, followed by a slew of shorter ones.
>>
>> http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26997/index.html
>>
>> Cathy
>
> any reference to the true reason President George W. Bush has been worn
> down in the eyes of his retractors. There was no mention of 9/11 nor
> terrorism. To people like John Heilemann the attacks on America are a
> distant past that they have completely forgotten or try to forget.
If you president is so concerned about terrorism, why is he doing something
absolute to close our borders? Do you ever think about that?
badgolferman
> If you president is so concerned about terrorism, why is he doing
> something absolute to close our borders? Do you ever think about that?
That is certainly one of my peeves with the Republicans. Now that the
Democrats are in control of Congress let's see if they do anything
about it.
JoeSpareBedroom
This is why neither party will do anything about the borders. If you say one
word about the source, I will pay someone to come to your home and kill you,
for the benefit of your children and grandchildren.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060331.html
badgolferman
> If you say one word about the source, I will pay someone to come to
> your home and kill you, for the benefit of your children and
> grandchildren.
You've got a serious problem. It is time for you to put the bottle
down.
--
"When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut." ~ Will Rogers
JoeSpareBedroom
> JoeSpareBedroom, 2/5/2007,11:03:09 PM, wrote:
>
>> If you say one word about the source, I will pay someone to come to
>> your home and kill you, for the benefit of your children and
>> grandchildren.
>
> You've got a serious problem. It is time for you to put the bottle
> down.
Nope. Stone cold sober, as always. But, I know that when sources are
unacceptable to you, or the information's not as obvious as a Pepsi
commercial, you have problems with those sources. The White House source I
provided is a problem. It made that agreement sound pretty. It's not, and
you will never figure out why.
badgolferman
I am not a fan of the border policy and have stated it several times.
You have a serious problem by threatening me with death for something I
haven't even done. All I can assume is that you cannot defend your
positions so you resort to insults and death threats. You are one
really sad individual.
JoeSpareBedroom
There is no point in giving you any leeway at all when it comes to sources.
Regarding the Kissinger book, you thought I should type up something for
you. No matter what I typed, whether a paragraph, a page or an entire
chapter, you would say it was out of context.
Go do your own work to learn about what really goes on in this country, and
specifically with some of the people you consider heros. Otherwise, stop
calling yourself an American. Citizenship is not like McDonald's. There are
no shortcuts.
larry moe 'n curly
Evil top poster Mike Hunter wrote:
> "Cathy F." <cl...@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
> news:aLedneGMYPOQyFvY...@giganews.com...
> >> The only thing about his remaining two years is that Dick Cheney is his
> >> best life insurance policy. So perhaps GWB isn't that dumb after all.
> >
> > At first - as in 6 years ago, I thought, "Well, at least Cheney's bright &
> > alert & 'with-it'; there's hope." But then - all too quickly - discovered
> > that his intellect is of no (good) use, AFAICT. So... that leaves your
> > take, which may be the correct one. (And I do think GWB is prob. brighter
> > than he appears. But... arghhh.)
>
> Apparently GWB is smarter than your perception of him, it seems. He earned
> a degree for Yale and an MBA from Harvard.
Q: What's another name for an MBA?
A: A law school reject.
In GW Bush's case, it's true -- he was turned down by the University
of Texas.
> His GPA was higher than Kerry's at Yale, as well.
How about his military service record? How was it better than
Kerry's, other than the fact that not a single Viet Cong made it into
Texas during GW Bush's service in the National Guard?
> A lot of people could not understood Einstein when he
> spoke, but nobody called him a dummy . ;)
Because, unlike GW Bush, Einstein was no dummy.
Scott in Florida
<larrymo...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>How about his military service record? How was it better than
>Kerry's, other than the fact that not a single Viet Cong made it into
>Texas during GW Bush's service in the National Guard?
GWB finished his tour of duty....Kerry ran....
--
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
Don't hold your breath...they are too busy trying to surrender and
run....
--
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
<dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>This is why neither party will do anything about the borders. If you say one
>word about the source, I will pay someone to come to your home and kill you,
>for the benefit of your children and grandchildren.
Are you making a personal threat?
--
Scott in Florida
Mike Hunter
Guard to the southern border. The Congress is the one holding back the
changes needed in the law to allow him to do more in border safety.
.
mike
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mike
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JoeSpareBedroom
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:TgSxh.2112$ya1....@news02.roc.ny...
>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Cathy F., 2/3/2007,7:00:19 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> An introductory essay, followed by a slew of shorter ones.
>>>>
>>>> http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26997/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> I read the first page of that clearly partisan article and never saw
>>> any reference to the true reason President George W. Bush has been worn
>>> down in the eyes of his retractors. There was no mention of 9/11 nor
>>> terrorism. To people like John Heilemann the attacks on America are a
>>> distant past that they have completely forgotten or try to forget.
>>
>>
>> If you president is so concerned about terrorism, why is he doing
>> something absolute to close our borders? Do you ever think about that?
>>
>
>
> The President is done all he can as Commander in Chief by send the nation
> Guard to the southern border. The Congress is the one holding back the
> changes needed in the law to allow him to do more in border safety.
>
> .
> mike
>
If you could bypass congress, have the budget you want, wave a magic wand
and do something AT THE BORDER, what would it be?
dh
Scott,
I think you should reread the question more carefully and answer this one
again.
DH
larry moe 'n curly
Mike Hunter wrote:
> The President is done all he can as Commander in Chief by send the nation
> Guard to the southern border.
The president is not done all he can about this because the obvious
solution -- penalize employers more harshly for hiring illegals, goes
against the interests of his business buddies allies love cheap
illegal labor (not only are illegals cheap, but they drive down the
wages of Americans as well).
Sending the nation guard to the border is about as effective at
stopping illegals as the Maginot Line was against Hitler's
blitzkrieg.
I'll repeat: Immigration is the perfect unresolvable political issue
because it not only pits the left against the right but also the right
against itself (business vs. nativists) and the left against itself
(liberals vs. labor)..
DH
It does enhance and accelerate the formation of the vast hypocrisy deposits
in the White House.
DH
> Guard to the southern border. The Congress is the one holding back the
> changes needed in the law to allow him to do more in border safety.
> .
> mike
Yes and the poor bastard with his mere 30 vote majority in the House and 5
vote majority in the Senate for the last 6 years couldn't get anything done.
"Responsibility" is an alien concept for the Republican party.
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishbo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xn0f212po...@news.readfreenews.net...
>>> Cathy F., 2/3/2007,7:00:19 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> An introductory essay, followed by a slew of shorter ones.
>>>>
>>>> http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26997/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> I read the first page of that clearly partisan article and never saw
>>> any reference to the true reason President George W. Bush has been worn
>>> down in the eyes of his retractors. There was no mention of 9/11 nor
>>> terrorism. To people like John Heilemann the attacks on America are a
>>> distant past that they have completely forgotten or try to forget.
>>
>>
>> If you president is so concerned about terrorism, why is he doing
>> something absolute to close our borders? Do you ever think about that?
>>
>
>
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