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bolo

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May 16, 2009, 11:22:01 AM5/16/09
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Hi,
I just bought 2009 Camry with 18000 miles on her.
I4 2.4l engine.
This is my 1st japanese car ever.
I have a question. Perhaps I am too sensitive about cars, but here you go.
I like the car handling. Is a little louder that my previous Buick Lacrosse.
I don't like in Camry that when I'm on intersection waiting for green light,
car is idling, gear in drive mode I can feel very, very small vibration on
steering wheel and the seat so seat is kind a tingling me. These vibration
are very small. If I put cat to neutral these vibration disappears. On my
Buick I couldn't feel anything. I was not even sure if engine is working.
Is that normal or there is something to be concern?
thanks
bolo


Phil McCracken

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May 16, 2009, 11:24:24 AM5/16/09
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 08:22:01 -0700, "bolo" <nofreak...@nospam.com>
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Just a guess, but could it be just the difference in "feel" between a
V6 and an I4?

john...@hotmail.com

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May 16, 2009, 12:09:59 PM5/16/09
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It could be a number of things, as mentioned, the mass produced I4
will not be as quiet and smooth as a V6. If the vibration happens only
in gear then I wonder if the engine/transmission mounts are up to it.
The Aisin U-series transmissions haven't got that great of a record
but should be adequate in typical driving. I wonder if a new strainer
and fluid may help, but transmission service needs to be done very
precisely. Even dealer techs sometimes can't get it right.

bolo

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May 16, 2009, 1:05:36 PM5/16/09
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>>Buick I couldn't feel anything. I was not even sure if engine is working.
>>Is that normal or there is something to be concern?
>>thanks
>>bolo
>>
>
> Just a guess, but could it be just the difference in "feel" between a
> V6 and an I4?

You could be right, but vibrations are vibrations. This could be just me
too. When comes to cars I'm just too sensitive to perfections. This a
course:)
I will check it at dealer.


ransley

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May 16, 2009, 1:47:52 PM5/16/09
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Its probably normal, but if you try high octane gas and it runs better
it needs a tuning, but at 18000 that doesnt seem likely, but 18000 on
an 09, it sounds like it was a rental car you bought, you wouldnt want
to buy any rental I have driven.

Ed

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May 16, 2009, 7:23:17 PM5/16/09
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What's the engine rpm at idle when the transmission is in D?

Leftie

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May 17, 2009, 5:01:09 AM5/17/09
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It's kind of disheartening that they never fixed that with the
Camry four automatics. Even with new motor mounts, our '95 sedan feels
more like a Yugo while idling in gear at lights. I shift into Neutral
when possible until the light goes yellow.

sciguy

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May 17, 2009, 8:50:23 AM5/17/09
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cleaning the throttle body and mass air flow sensor may help. If you
dont know how to do this buy or borrow a chilton manual and DIY. I do
this every 6 months and it does make a difference in the way my 2000
tacoma idles. But it does sound like motor mounts. You should be
covered by bumper to bumper warranty till 36000 miles. Find a toyota
dealer you can trust.

Reasoned Insanity

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May 17, 2009, 9:41:45 AM5/17/09
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LOL, I have to concure with this statement. I had my rental for a week and a
half, put 1100 miles on it and rode it hard the whole way. The 2009 Mazda 6
isn't a go cart like the Corollas are, but they are still a little fun to
drive.


JerryR

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May 17, 2009, 11:07:16 AM5/17/09
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It's NOT you.
I have a 2009 Camry 4cyl(only4000 Mi.-bought new) that is doing what you are
complaining about. Prior to this car I drove my wifes 2003 Camry 4cyl(Both
the '03 and the '09 use the same engine, but diff trans.) and traded in my
1997 Camry 4 cyl for this one. Neither of those 2 cars was as noisy as this
one(mostly wind noise at high speed), nor did they vibrate as much as this
one at a stop light(in gear), the only time that I felt *any* vibrations was
when the AC kicked in.
Admittedly the vibration is light, and you can stop it by shifting to "N",
But it's annoying when your previous car was smooth.
Personally, my bigger complaint is the wind noise, but I guess I'll have to
learn to live with that.
I don't think Toyotas are built with as much attention to details as they
use to.

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bolo

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May 17, 2009, 3:58:56 PM5/17/09
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>What's the engine rpm at idle when the transmission is in D?

it's about 750.

bolo

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May 17, 2009, 4:03:07 PM5/17/09
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> Personally, my bigger complaint is the wind noise, but I guess I'll have
> to
> learn to live with that.

Tghis bugs me too. I read that some people put some "filler" between rubber
and door steel frame.


Ray O

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May 17, 2009, 9:14:17 PM5/17/09
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"bolo" <nofreak...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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18,000 miles is a little high for a current model year vehicle.

750 RPM doe not sound too low, but you may ask your local Toyota dealer what
the specified idle RPM is in drive, and describe the condition that concerns
you.

Changing the transmission fluid will not make a difference, and Toyota does
not recommend changing the transmission strainer as routine maintenance.
Cleaning the throttle body will not change the condition, and neither will
changing the motor or transmission mounts unless the vehicle has previously
been in a collision severe enough to require frame straightening.

Unfortunately, the condition you are describing sounds normal for a 4
cylinder car, but the best way to determine whether the condition is normal
or not is to have your local Toyota dealer check it out.
--

Ray O
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bolo

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May 17, 2009, 9:23:43 PM5/17/09
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> Unfortunately, the condition you are describing sounds normal for a 4
> cylinder car, but the best way to determine whether the condition is
> normal or not is to have your local Toyota dealer check it out.
I think I found solution to my problems - Lexus:)
I will give my Camry 2-3 years and my next purchase will be ES350


Ray O

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May 17, 2009, 10:26:40 PM5/17/09
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Also look at a V6 Camry.

john...@hotmail.com

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May 17, 2009, 10:43:55 PM5/17/09
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Yeah, except the 3.5L engines are prone to piston slaps even when new.
One Lexus owner tried three new ES's and they all piston slap on the
dealer lot! Just google.

And did they ever solved the transmission flare problem with the
U-660E in Toyota V6 and ES? That transmission has been a clunker since
introduction. But again, I'm not a fan of the U-series.

Leftie

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May 18, 2009, 4:43:34 AM5/18/09
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I assume you are replying to the original poster, and not me. Our
Camry has been off warranty for ... a while now. ;-)

JerryR

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May 18, 2009, 7:33:07 AM5/18/09
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If you ever find out more about it(the"Filler") please post it
Thanks
Jerry

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Ed

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May 18, 2009, 11:02:55 AM5/18/09
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You feel the vibration at 750 rpm idle? Ideally, idle rpm while on D
and N should not be too far away, but idle in D is generally lower.
I suggest you let someone sit on the driver seat ask him to step on
the brakes and put the car in D. Open your hood and look for some air
leaks. The tech might not have tightened or aligned the air hoses
well, but in my experience the rpm would drop to 500 when an air leak
is present. I opened my throttle body and did not retighten it well
and my idle became rough, I found it immediately after a test drive
and fixed it.

bolo

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May 18, 2009, 1:35:00 PM5/18/09
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"JerryR" <yjr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If you ever find out more about it(the"Filler") please post it

Roll some paper towell or plastick bag and stuff it into rubber door seal at
door top (to the place where the seal is folded).
Sometimes ruber seal create gaps that is wind noise reason.


Ed

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May 19, 2009, 1:03:33 PM5/19/09
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My Camry also is about 750 rpm in D and has the *very* small vibration
in the steering wheel, I never noticed it before maybe because it's
not a problem with me, even now I dont consider it as a problem. But
unlike your car, this vibration is not transferred to the driver seat.

JJ

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May 19, 2009, 8:37:48 PM5/19/09
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I have noticed:
Having the air conditioner turned on with the compressor running will cause
a vibration not felt with the air off.

JJ

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bolo

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May 20, 2009, 1:42:10 AM5/20/09
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>> I think I found solution to my problems - Lexus:)
>> I will give my Camry 2-3 years and my next purchase will be ES350
>
> Also look at a V6 Camry.
> --
Or maybe go back to american V6, Buick Lacrosse 2010


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