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1999 Toyota Camry - Engine Knock

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RN

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Feb 14, 2009, 7:45:07 PM2/14/09
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My 1999 Toyota Camry makes a knocking noise only when it's cold and
idle. The first time I tap the gas, it goes away. I could leave it
idle after that - even cold, and it makes no unusual noise. Any idea
what this could be? Is it serious? Seems to be fine other than that.

Thanks,

RN

RN

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Feb 14, 2009, 7:46:37 PM2/14/09
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I guess I should also note that it has 82,500 miles on it. Thanks!

M.Balarama

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Feb 14, 2009, 7:56:52 PM2/14/09
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"RN" <R...@RN.com> wrote in message
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try moving up one grade in gas octane--I use the middle grade 91 octane on
my camry-or it knocks 51,000 miles


ransley

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Feb 14, 2009, 8:03:21 PM2/14/09
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Try a toyota oil filter, what you have now might have defective anti
drain valves

Sharx35

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Feb 15, 2009, 12:33:43 AM2/15/09
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"M.Balarama" <mba...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Bullshit. My 99 Camry SIX cylinder uses no-name regular gas with NO problems
at 129,000 kilometres.

Sharx35

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Feb 15, 2009, 12:34:11 AM2/15/09
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"ransley" <Mark_R...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Bullshit. I have a 99 6 cyl. Camry and haven't used Toy filters for years.

ransley

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Feb 15, 2009, 5:02:23 AM2/15/09
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If its preignition knock you have other issues like timing advanced or
some other bad control like the knock sensor. His knock noise is lack
of oil and Ive had bad filters that go empty

ransley

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Feb 15, 2009, 5:05:04 AM2/15/09
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On Feb 14, 11:34 pm, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "ransley" <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message

Bullshit is your statement like most of them retard, I had 3 bad
filters in a row, I had noise of lack of oil, removed filter with a
different brand. When I removed it, it had no oil in it it had leaked
back in the motor overnight.

Sharx35

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Feb 15, 2009, 6:13:05 AM2/15/09
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"ransley" <Mark_R...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If you stopped cheaping out and used synthetic oil, you wouldn't have had
the problem.

Mark A

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Feb 15, 2009, 8:10:00 AM2/15/09
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> My 1999 Toyota Camry makes a knocking noise only when it's cold and
> idle. The first time I tap the gas, it goes away. I could leave it
> idle after that - even cold, and it makes no unusual noise. Any idea
> what this could be? Is it serious? Seems to be fine other than that.

Sounds like valve clatter or piston slap, and not likely pinging/knocking
(detonation). Pinging most often occurs when the engine gets hotter, and if
it goes away when the engine gets warm, it is probably something else.

I think I would try Mobil 1 for high mileage cars just to see what would
happen. Do not use regular Mobil 1 on a car with a lot of engine wear.


ransley

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Feb 15, 2009, 8:13:42 AM2/15/09
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On Feb 15, 5:13 am, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Feb 14, 11:34 pm, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "ransley" <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >> > On Feb 14, 6:45 pm, RN <R...@RN.com> wrote:
> >> >> My 1999 Toyota Camry makes a knocking noise only when it's cold and
> >> >> idle.  The first time I tap the gas, it goes away.  I could leave it
> >> >> idle after that - even cold, and it makes no unusual noise.  Any idea
> >> >> what this could be?  Is it serious?  Seems to be fine other than that.
>
> >> >> Thanks,
>
> >> >> RN
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> >> > Try a toyota oil filter, what you have now might have defective anti
> >> > drain valves
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> >> Bullshit. I have a 99 6 cyl. Camry and haven't used Toy filters for
> >> years.
>
> > Bullshit is your statement like most of them retard, I had 3 bad
> > filters in a row, I had noise of lack of oil, removed filter with a
> > different brand. When I removed it, it had no oil in it it had leaked
> > back in the motor overnight.
>
> If you stopped cheaping out and used synthetic oil, you wouldn't have had
> the problem.- Hide quoted text -
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I use full synthetic, always have, Mobil 1, 5-30, and I dont mean to
be rude to you again. Google defective anti drainback valves toyota,
and check out www.bobtheoilguy.com forums. Bob has the most
complete advise out there, it will help anyone who wants a motor to
last. His info will shock many.

ransley

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Feb 15, 2009, 8:29:39 AM2/15/09
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> and check outwww.bobtheoilguy.com   forums. Bob has the most

> complete advise out there, it will help anyone who wants a motor to
> last. His info will shock many.- Hide quoted text -

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I guess that link in ng, google what i said he has a forum on oil
issues.

Mark A

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Feb 15, 2009, 8:42:16 AM2/15/09
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> "ransley" <Mark_R...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I guess that link in ng, google what i said he has a forum on oil issues.

I don't know if this is the same guy, but here is a link that works:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/


ransley

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Feb 15, 2009, 9:28:32 AM2/15/09
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On Feb 15, 7:42 am, "Mark A" <some...@someone.com> wrote:
> > "ransley" <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message

> > news:c0eecde0-498e-4a08-8409-
> > I guess that link in ng, google what i said he has a forum on oil issues.
>
> I don't know if this is the same guy, but here is a link that works:http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

I see it was www.Celicasupra.com forums 2-15-04 a good article, it
might be the same bob

Sharx35

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Feb 15, 2009, 8:11:06 PM2/15/09
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"ransley" <Mark_R...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Message received. I hope the filter suggestion works for the OP.

john...@hotmail.com

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Feb 16, 2009, 2:45:21 AM2/16/09
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Sure, lubrication system is a prime suspect. If it's piston slap
(excessive clearance between piston/bore), then loss of adequate
lubrication can magnify the issue.

If you or a mechanically inclined friend put a oil pressure gauge on
there you may notice low oil pressure BEFORE you tap the gas but
NORMAL afterwards. Then this confirms what others are saying
(especially if tapping gas solves the noise problem). Except I'd try a
Purolator PureOne filter or Bosch Filtech filter. But people's mileage
vary.

PureOne, highest ranked in SAE tests:
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/en-us/products/oil_filters/Pages/pureoneoilfilters.aspx

Bosch Filtech:
http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/Filters/PremOilFilters.htm

A Toyota filter I wouldn't use:
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/toyota_filter/compare/dsc00376.jpg

Oil pressure gauge:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98949

ransley

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Feb 16, 2009, 6:44:04 AM2/16/09
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On Feb 16, 1:45 am, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Sure, lubrication system is a prime suspect. If it's piston slap
> (excessive clearance between piston/bore), then loss of adequate
> lubrication can magnify the issue.
>
> If you or a mechanically inclined friend put a oil pressure gauge on
> there you may notice low oil pressure BEFORE you tap the gas but
> NORMAL afterwards. Then this confirms what others are saying
> (especially if tapping gas solves the noise problem). Except I'd try a
> Purolator PureOne filter or Bosch Filtech filter. But people's mileage
> vary.
>
> PureOne, highest ranked in SAE tests:http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/en-us/products/oil_filters/Pages/...
>
> Bosch Filtech:http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/Filters/PremOilFilters.htm
>
> A Toyota filter I wouldn't use:http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/parts/toyota_filter/compare/dsc00376...

>
> Oil pressure gauge:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98949
>
> On Feb 14, 4:45 pm, RN <R...@RN.com> wrote:
>
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> > My 1999 Toyota Camry makes a knocking noise only when it's cold and
> > idle.  The first time I tap the gas, it goes away.  I could leave it
> > idle after that - even cold, and it makes no unusual noise.  Any idea
> > what this could be?  Is it serious?  Seems to be fine other than that.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > RN- Hide quoted text -

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I wonder if oil is to thick, it wont flow quick enough to the top. But
years ago my 84 camry, even near new idled at Zero. Or oil passages
are nearly clogged shut from sludge. Isnt oiling so overlooked,
because we cant see it in action and motors last so long these days.
In the 40s you were lucky to go 60000, 60s- 100000. 80s 150000. Now
its 200 300000 if lucky,

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