2000 Camry LE--smell of gas
camryguy
time, whenever the car was just shut off, a strong smell of raw gas
would be coming from the car. I had the light checked to find out it
was P0401, Exhaust gas flow insufficient. I don't know if these
problems are related or another problem persists. My gas mileage has
plummeted from around 700 kms/tank to about 500 kms/tank. I don't
smell gas befroe driving the car, just after. Checked for leaks, non
to be found. ANy help is greatly appreciated.
hls
"camryguy" <anthon...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Have a look
http://www.obd-codes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4429
camryguy
getting P0440 code. I was getting this code about a month ago, but was
told a new gas cap would cure that problem. Well...it didn't. I
checked under the car for any leaks and found non, but when
investigating, noticed the odor up by the filler cap. I opened up the
cap and noticed a fair bit of rust on the inside of the filler tube.
Could the filler tube be bad enough that not even a new gas cap will
keep a tight seal? I don't know...any help would be appreciated. On
another note, thanks hls for the link, I do also agree and think that
it is the VSV switch that is failing me, not the EGR valve itself.
C. E. White
Is there any chance that you have a rust hole in the gas tank? I've heard of
this happening with a few Camrys. A rust hole high up in the tank could
explain the lower mileage, the smell, and the P0440 code. If you are in an
area were vehicle rust is a problem, I'd definitely look for a gas tank
hole.
Ed
camryguy
> "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Hi Ed, I am in an area where rust is a problem, Nova Scotia, Canada,
but I do believe, if I'm not mistaken that my Camry has a plastic Gas
tank. However, I will investigate just to be sure. Thanks for the
reply!
ransley
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I had a gas line go, I simply spliced in a rubber line, I cant see
anyone using plastic, in an accident it will just crack
camryguy
Yes your right...after further inspection, the gas tank is metal, just
black. I assumed with it being black that it was plastic, but you know
what they say about assuming.
ransley
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Epoxy could fix a leak
camryguy
I don't think I have a leak, just not a tight fit on the gas cap. I
bought a new gas cap about a month ago to no avail. I can't seem to
find any leaks under the car. The only place where I can smell gas is
up by the fuel door. I have been under the car checking all afternoon.
The only thing I can think is that there is a small warp in the filler
nozzle. There is rust forming on the inside of the filler neck. Oxygen
is getting in somewhere, but where is beyond me. I may have to invest
in a new filler neck. And a VSV switch. Love the car, hate the
problems!
ransley
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Take a gas cap, drill a hole in it and glue in a fitting that fits a
air hose, pressurise it to 10 lb with a tire filler and listen for the
leak. The check engine light is from the leak. On mine the lines
rusted under the plastic cover of the rocker panel, my lines were
rusted the length of the car, the brake lines run the same area, if
the lines are rusted and leaking there then the brake lines are NEXT
to fail and need to be done before they Fail while driving, mine
failed while driving and i had an accident, thats a bad situation you
dont want.
camryguy
No, your right, that is something I don't want. I still have my old
gas cap and will do the same. Thanks for the great reply!
hls
"ransley" <Mark_R...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5ac353db-
I had a gas line go, I simply spliced in a rubber line, I cant see
anyone using plastic, in an accident it will just crack
''
The company I used to work for had a subsidiary that manufactured "plastic"
gas tanks. They were, IIRC, highly profitable. These molded tanks could
be easily fit into small areas in tight auto models, etc. We sold
them when the company needed some new capital, and I dont know the
final outcome of this endeavor but I do know that plastic tanks were not
at all out of the question.
ransley
> "ransley" <Mark_Rans...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5ac353db-
For saftey reasons is why I think cars have metal, think of the
lawsuits from rear end accidents with plastic, metal will dent and
give and make a small hole, plastic wont be as forgiving.
camryguy
has a hole in it close to the top by the gas cap. Has anyone ever done
this before? What does a filler neck cost to replace? Any help would
be greatly appreciated!
ransley
Can you get some epoxy on the hole, im just guessing but the filler
next might be welded to the tank and epoxy should do it.
hls
Some of the older cars had the filler necks removable from the fuel
tank, but that was a long time ago. I am relatively sure that you would
have to cut off this neck from the tank and weld it back on. Or
weld a patch over the hole.
The downside is that this could not only be expensive, BUT you will
likely destroy the corrosion resistance of this tank if it is a terneplate
construction.
How did the hole get there in the first place? Corrosion or fretting?
If is is corroded, then the whole tank may be worthless.
Ransley suggested you might try an epoxy fix. You could try it. I
wouldnt, but that is just my personal idiosyncracy.
If I were you, I would think about this a bit before I jumped into
something.
hls
"ransley" <Mark_R...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:00bc4acd-
For saftey reasons is why I think cars have metal, think of the
lawsuits from rear end accidents with plastic, metal will dent and
give and make a small hole, plastic wont be as forgiving.
*****
These tanks were engineered very well, and were quite robust.
When we think of plastic, we think of cheap cracking pieces of
junk, but these were not that way at all.
They had they advantage that they could be produced easily for
available space in a car, did not corrode, and were tough
Our company also used to own a subsidiary that made plastic boats.
Polyethylene. At first they werent very good, but as they improved
the dye system and solved the oxidation and cracking problems,
they were quite tough and long lasting.
camryguy
> "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message
No, the filler neck is not welded or permanently attached to the gas
tank. There is a rubber flex hose attaching it to the gas tank, which
seems to be in good shape. It is definitely corrosion. I'm not sure
how the hole got there, but the hole filler neck looks to be in sad
condition. I got a price for a new neck today at $198.00 cdn. Not
cheap, but consider that I've spent almost $500.00 in gas over the
past month and a half and you can see my dilemma.
ransley
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500 in gas at 2.80 a gallon @ 22mpg drives my nearly 4000 miles, do
you drive neraly 50,000 miles a year??? Call a junk yard, or take off
the neck and use JB weld epoxy, if you can fix it in place that
easier.
hls
No, the filler neck is not welded or permanently attached to the gas
tank. There is a rubber flex hose attaching it to the gas tank, which
seems to be in good shape. It is definitely corrosion. I'm not sure
how the hole got there, but the hole filler neck looks to be in sad
condition. I got a price for a new neck today at $198.00 cdn. Not
cheap, but consider that I've spent almost $500.00 in gas over the
past month and a half and you can see my dilemma.
*****
Good gosh! Look for a good part at a wrecking yard, I would say.
Still, it make me wonder what your tank looks like if you have that
much corrosion on the filler neck.
ransley
> "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I wonder how rusted the brake and fuel lines are, Mine rusted out the
brake, fuel line, and Tank Straps, both of them, there is for all to
die and hit the crusher, rust-car cancer does it free
camryguy
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Well, since in Canada gas has been around $1.10/litre, and there is
about 3.8 litres in a gallon, I am paying $4.18/gallon. And yes a 2
hour round trip to work every day plus other tasks and errands
certainly racks up the mileage, hence the initial purchase for the
Camry.
camryguy
> "camryguy" <anthonyza...@gmail.com> wrote in message
The bottom side of the tank looks good, but I can't exactly see the
top, i'm gonna assume its good for now, and if not, then I'll cross
that bridge when I get there.
camryguy
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Good point, I will be inspecting that tomorow...Thanks for the great
replys!
Sharx35
"camryguy" <anthon...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In Canada, there are about 4.54 litres in an Imperial gallon, however, yes,
if you are right is using 3.8 factor to show the relative cost of a U.S.
gallon. But to be fully correct, you had better convert to U.S. dollars,
too. Today, a U.S. dollar here cost ROUGHLY $1.05 CDN. Here in Edmonton,
Alberta, I can get gas at 82.9 cents CDN for a litre.
camryguy
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I wish, in Nova Scotia, reg, is 102.9
Sharx35
"camryguy" <anthon...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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However, you guys are probably able to go to the nearest ER and NOT have to
wait hours and hours and hours for treatment, eh?
karl Zadeh
Not entirely true. Three years ago, I was in a car accident and waited
4.5 hours after triage to see a doctor. It all depends on what
hospital. Halifax is a zoo, but the Annapolis Valley Hospitals are a
much more tolerable wait. Not perfect but better.
mred
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In Canada the Imperial gallon is no longer extant and we use the US
gallon,(when we measure in gallons ) paint etc.
Gas here in Ontario (Hamilton ) is hanging around the $1.00 a liter
mark +- a few cents.The HST incresed the tax on gasoline by 13% on top
of provincial and federal gas taxes.
A US gallon is 3.78 liters to be exact.
Just thought i would clarify that up ?
Ed
Sharx35
"mred" <mr...@295.ca> wrote in message
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That put the price where it SHOULD have been. For years, even though
Edmonton has THREE world-class size refineries and the LOWEST provincial gas
tax of any of the provinces, gasoline was usually cheaper, most of the time,
in southern Ontario. Even though Ontario had and has a higher provincial tax
rate on gas and even though many points in southern Ontario were further
distant from a refinery than any part of Edmonton. Go figure. I think that
the oil companies, knowing that a whole lot of MP's are from southern
Ontario, intentionally sucked up to that area by keeping wholesale (refinery
gate) prices ARTIFICIALLY LOWER, compared to Alberta.
lavo...@gmail.com
This problem is a result of a faulty charcoal canister. Sorry for the late post. This is a known problem with with version of Camry.
The charcoal canister will develop a crack. You can also see fuel dripping from the overflow hose in the canister or from the crack itself.
The reason for the code is that the computer does a vacuum check and with the crack the vacuum does not seal and reach the desired parameter (thus the suggestion for a new gas cap). The purpose of this part is evap and fuel economy. The charcoal canister absorbs fumes from the gas tank. Then the engine purges air through the cansiter when it starts. The purged air carries the fuel and vapors to the intake manifold where the recovered gas fumes are burned in the engine. Reducing emissions and boosting economy. Once purged long enough the canister will be void of gas.
With the crack in the system, vacuum is not obtained and air is not pulled through the canister. Thus, the fuel builds up and the canister fills with gas and then overflows through the overflow tube. You can smell and see the gas dripping out. Look up under the rear axle and you will see the location of the leak and the canister.
The part can be bought as an assembly with new valves relatively cheaply in the internet, I love Toyota for this. And the removal and reinstall is very straight forward.
Good luck to all reading this and hope this helps.
