Oil Filter got wet
wayne
was drenched but the whole box was wet. I took the filter out of the box
and it was dry except for the rubber seal, which was wet because it
touched the bottom of the box. I can't detect any water inside the filter.
Can I still use this filter or should I chuck it and get another one.
Thanks,
Wayne
No Way
wayne <i...@ukulele.com> wrote in message
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If it was sitting with the gasket side down I would use it.
If it got water into it........no
Rick Courtright
> If it got water into it........no
??????
Silly question time: why not?
Let's say the filter DID get water inside. Before installing, the OP
turns it upside down and drains whatever water he can. Then he installs
it and takes the car out for a long enough run to get everything up to
operating temps, and any water in the system will be evaporated.
Whatever little water was in the filter at startup will be forced thru
the system quickly without causing any more harm than the air in a fresh
filter on startup, maybe less. And there was probably no more water in
the filter at installation than in the sumps of many cars after a short
run in very cold winter conditions.
Of course, the filter could just be set aside to dry and used at the
next oil change. Ever get a filter with rust on it straight out of the
box? I've seen more than a few... I'd bet they get wet frequently in
transit or warehousing. What did I miss?
Rick
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Carl 1 Lucky Texan
most oil filters made of paper? The ratio of oil filter cost to major
engine repair cost would keep me from just pouring the water out and
using the filter. Thinking about a lump of paper goo traveling through
the system, coupled with the now compromised filtering ability of the
filter itself, gives me the willies. In the old days when water was more
prevalent in gasoline, the paper fuel filters would get wet and become
impassable to gasoline. Even if the paper element didn't turn to goo,
the oil will bypass and not be filtered.
If you're sure it was kept gasket side down, AND you're short on funds,
AND you don't mind a little risk, I'd let it dry for a while and use it.
Carl
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wayne
> No Way wrote:
>
>> If it got water into it........no
>
> ??????
>
> Silly question time: why not?
>
> Let's say the filter DID get water inside. Before installing, the OP
> turns it upside down and drains whatever water he can. Then he installs
> it and takes the car out for a long enough run to get everything up to
> operating temps, and any water in the system will be evaporated.
> Whatever little water was in the filter at startup will be forced thru
> the system quickly without causing any more harm than the air in a fresh
> filter on startup, maybe less. And there was probably no more water in
> the filter at installation than in the sumps of many cars after a short
> run in very cold winter conditions.
Thanks for the reply. The filter was kept gasket side down. If any
water got into the filter, it got there through moisture in the air; the
box was wet all the way through.
Wayne
No Way
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of shape
it is designed for oil not water
moisture gets carried by the oil
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Joseph Kwon
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John
> 6 bucks...get a new filter.
No kidding... I was *so* tempted to write the same thing way back when this
thread started.
All this talk and discussion over a couple of dollars! What a waste. My
peace-of-mind would
have demanded tossing out the wet filter and getting a new one!
John
Tom
I agree with the better safe than sorry argument when it comes to a $6 oil
filter. However, when you have $55 worth of oil filters that got soaked, it
would be nice to know if there's a definite answer to this question before
throwing out that much money. Any new insights on this?
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VanguardLH
> I agree with the better safe than sorry argument when it comes to a $6
> oil filter. However, when you have $55 worth of oil filters that got
> soaked, it would be nice to know if there's a definite answer to this
> question before throwing out that much money. Any new insights on
> this?
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cc0030a5c0aa34116391d3ea21dac78db%40news.meganetnews.com%3E
Dated back in 2003 ... *16 years ago*. No wonder my NNTP provider
didn't have a copy of this ancient article. When replying to a post, be
sure to note its datestamp.
I looked at the archived starting article where the OP never mentioned
the cost of the oil filter that was left out in the rain and sitting in
a puddle. Tom's argument about an oil filter costing $55 is irrelevant
since we don't know how much the OP paid for his, and after 16 years it
is extremely unlikely the OP will return to cite his cost. If the
argument is that $55 was for many oil filters, well, I sure wouldn't be
taking my car to Tom's shop.
As for whether or not the oil filter is usable or not, that depends on
whether just the gasket got wet by contact to the box it was in getting
wet versus the level of water of the puddle being higher than the gasket
and wetting the paper element inside. Again, we won't know because the
OP won't be returning after a 16 year hiatus from this thread. You run
your car long enough to make sure the engine gets hot enough to vaporize
any moisture that accumulate inside, and why short trips where the
engine barely warms up are bad. You don't want water damaging the
engine from the inside, especially since the oil drains off the walls
when parked. An oil filter whose paper element is soaked will be
placing far too much water inside the engine for it to vaporize and get
expelled no matter how long you drive. You think pouring in half a cup
of water into the oil filler tube comes anywhere close to the tiny bit
of water vapor in the air inside the compartments that condense on
cooling?
Ever put a paper towel over a small puddle of water and notice how the
water gets wicked up and spreads into the paper towel? Well, a paper
filter sitting in a puddle is also going to wick up the water. That's
why the other respondents in the ancient posts asked how high was the
puddle. That the gasket got wet couldn't been just because it was
against a wet box, or the puddble could've been high enough for the
water to contact the paper inside the oil filter. However, as the other
respondents noted, just go buy another new oil filter for a few bucks
... and not likely the $55 you mentioned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTNJLEV8CG8
See, it's paper inside for the filter. Sure, you could let it sit
around to dry (while hoping no rusting happens inside); however, unless
you make a rig that pushes air into the oil filter in one hole to get
the air to actually move through the filtering element, it's going to be
a LONG time before the oil filter gets dried out. If you cannot afford
to just go out to buy another oil filter after the first one gets
soaked, you really cannot afford that car.
The guy in the above video bought his Fram filters from Tom's auto parts
store where Tom tried to reuse the wetted filters or his warehouse
doesn't control the humidity. Below the author shows some other Fram
filters that have metal end caps instead of cardboard and no rust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzCqjZgIMBk
Do I buy Fram anything? No. You can't tell what you're getting for
quality since they bounce all over between their products, and you can't
see inside. I do like Wix but that's because it's in the auto parts
stores where I shop while the other high-end brands are absent. NAPA
stores are just too pricey for me to go there for parts unless they're
the only one that has the part (other than the dealer who is as or more
expensive). However, if the paper/cotton/fabric filter gets wet, I'm
not using it no matter what the cost. I'm not pouring water into my
engine whether by using a measuring cup or by using a wet oil filter,
and I'm not waiting a week, or more, to let a wet oil filter dry out
while it rusts.
Washer41
I'm just gonna sit the filter on a heater over night what ever water did get in it will evaporate right??
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VanguardLH
>> the
<yep, that's all washer41 cited>
> I'm just gonna sit the filter on a heater over night what ever water
> did get in it will evaporate right??
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cpan.2003.10.10.17.19.35.9431%40ukulele.com%3E
the thread by "wayne <i...@ukulele.com>" was started over 18 years ago.
No need to visit some disconnected forum thread. After 18+ years, that
unused oil filter's paper element would've already air dried.
Either wayne nymshifted to washer41, or washer41 is trying to usurp the
ancient thread as though he was the one that left the oil filter in the
rain.