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wilbe...@my-deja.com

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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hello; I'm trying to figure out the correct engine colors for my 55
president. I thought the air cleaner should be gold the oil filter
case orange the valve covers gold the the oil filler cap gold, and the
block silver. My engine is currently mostly turquoise. However, a
dealer brochure shows engines with green valve covers red valve
covers,blue valve cover,turquoise fan blades etc. The valve covers seem
to match the color the of the different model cars. All blocksa are
silver and oil filter cases match the color of the valve covers.
Thanks,Sheldon


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CEECAB

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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ok- black air cleaner-unless its a Canadian car -then its orange( or was on
mine anyway)-oil filter-orange with a black top-= or maybe all gold for a
Prez-I have seen both- gold valve covers- oil cap
black generator- and the block is a dark turquoise-
not silver
The brochure is wrong about the colors.

MarkBFrost

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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The February 1994 Issue of Turning Wheels includes the first part of Fred Fox's
two part feature article covering 1955 Cars & Wagons. It provides the
following information, regarding engine colors.

"Engine Colors: 1955 Cars & Wagons

In 1955, for the first time since mid-1927, Studebaker introduced new
engine colors. To announce this, they actually printed the engine colors in
the Model Changes 1955 Studebaker catalog that was issued in September 1954.
Here is the information that was given:

Model Engine

Champion Alberta Blue
Commander Alberta Blue
President Alberta Blue

Air Cleaner,
Oil filler cap
&
Model OHV valve covers

Champion Cherokee Red
Commander Silver
President Gold

Cliff Fisher notes that some very early 1955 models used black air
cleaners and oil filler caps left over from 1954. The Alberta Blue engine
color was used as a car exterior color in 1954.
Sometime late in the model year, the Alberta Blue was replaced by the
Turquoise color used in 1956 and most of 1957.
Fans were engine color or black. Oil filter cannisters installed at the
factory were engine color, while dealer installed ones were normally Fram
orange with black lids and unpainted bolt. The generator, starter and
rectangular battery hold down clamp were black. The end plates and pulley
impeller were natural metal on some generators. The radiator fan shroud, hood
rod and upper radiator air deflector were black. The hood lock mechanism that
fit in the upper radiator air deflector and the radiator cap were metal
colored. The battery hold down nuts, the valve cover nuts, coil bracket and
throttle linkage were natural metal color. The large ignition wire guides were
black, while the small ones on the V8 valve covers were natural metal.
The carburetor and fuel pump were natural metal, although the original
fuel pump was often highly oversprayed with engine color. Power steering units
had an engine colored pump and pulley with a black reservoir and lid. Early
power brake boosters were silver colored with a black attachment bracket, while
later ones were all black.
Decals were fitted to the air cleaner cannister, oil filter cannister and
most engines. The engine decals -"Passmaster," etc.- were fitted to the valve
covers on V8s and on the ignition wire guide on sixes. Pictures of some
engines at introduction time show no engine decals.
Photos of engines in the showroom sales brochures show the wrong colors,
but the correct colors are shown in the large dealer showroom book (Page 36).
"

Mark

Sam Roberts

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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My '55 Commander motor color was originally was the same as '56 as it was
built 6-6-55, and the valve covers were the same color, and not silver.
When I repainted the motor after Ted Harbit rebuilt it, I used the "correct"
paint from Charles Schnetlage, who sent the early Dark Blue color. I was
told that motor colors changed about the last quarter of the '55 production
run.

Sam

John Poulos

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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Do nor pay any attention to the brochure, it's seldom even close. I
think the gold and silver scheme is correct, but I'll defer to the 55
experts.

--
John Poulos
Studebaker on the Net/
Internet Club
at http://stude.com

JETman

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Nov 19, 2000, 7:58:36 PM11/19/00
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'55 President has gold valve covers, air cleaner, oil filler cap and
dash. Engine should be blue except I believe that the last of the '55
run was the same as '56, blue/green or aqua as some would call it.

Silver blocks I believe were in the late '57 model year and '58.

wilbe...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> hello; I'm trying to figure out the correct engine colors for my 55
> president. I thought the air cleaner should be gold the oil filter
> case orange the valve covers gold the the oil filler cap gold, and the
> block silver. My engine is currently mostly turquoise. However, a
> dealer brochure shows engines with green valve covers red valve
> covers,blue valve cover,turquoise fan blades etc. The valve covers seem
> to match the color the of the different model cars. All blocksa are
> silver and oil filter cases match the color of the valve covers.
> Thanks,Sheldon
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

--
Regards,

JT (Residing in Austin, Texas)

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Studeman

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Nov 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/20/00
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AFAIK (for sure)...
1955 had the several combinations mentioned above by (MarkBFrost). I am
not experienced with "original" cars from 1955 0r 1956.

1956 and 1957(early) had Turquoise blocks, heads, intake manifold, water
manifold. I "believe" the valve covers and oil pan were black.
Accessories I cannot be specific.
Late 1957-1958: I have not researched "original" cars from this period

All 1958-1960: these had silver(NOT the really bright aluminum either)
blocks, heads, intake, water manifold. All had black valve covers, oil
cap, and oil pan. Fan blade could be black or silver(especially late
'59-1960).

1961: Silver block, heads, intake, water manifold, AND oil pan. Valve
covers were an off- reddish orange (NOT Chevy). Fan blade and oil cap
CAN be ANY one of 3 colors: black, silver, or red-orange. I guess
Studebaker was using up stock before the 1962 change. Power steering
pump-silver body BUT black reservoir (seems silly, but I have this WELL
documented in original photos and from unmolested original cars).

1962-1964(non-Avanti and "R" cars): Black block, heads, intake, water
manifild, oil pan, Pwr steering pump and reservoir, Yellow valve covers,

"R" Cars: (not Avanti): Black block, heads, intake, water manifold, and
oil pan. Fan blade can be black or red-orange(especially AC cars and 6-7
blade fans). Chrome valve covers, oil caps and sometimes lifter-vally
cover

Accessories-All years:
Generator: 1955-1962(mid year) GLOSS Black- Important Note: these were
painted in a very poor quality black laquer-based paint. Due to the
rough surface, poor prep, no resistance to fading, and no "buffing" they
never had a "High-Gloss". So, most shows allow either a Gloss or
Semi-Gloss paint to be used.
Alternator: (mid-1962-1964) Housing is "natural" aluminum. Center stator
has a "copperish" cast to it- it is the insulation coating used on the
stator windings before assembly- this usually peels off, and rust insues
on the steel plates. Pully and fan blade are natural steel.
Air Cleaner: 1957-up- gloss black
Distributor housing: gloss black
Water pump: unpainted or block color
Water pump and crank pullys: gloss black
Harmonic Balancer (timing disk): Block color
Bell Housing: light overspray of block color- the rest was natural cast
steel. Painting it "cast blast" or block color is acceptible.
Transmission body: Black (usually)

I have tried to document these colors from any "original" cars I find.
Making note of anything that may have been replaced. I have looked at
factory photos, pictures that people had of cars when they were
purchased, and documented untouched cars. I cannot comment on years that
I haven't documented myself.

Ray


John Poulos

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Nov 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/20/00
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I checked my references, Alberta blue was the engine color until late
in the year when it was replaced by turquoise late in the year. The air
cleaner, valve covers, and oil filler cap were Silver on Commander and
Gold on Presidents.

Hal or Kathy Hermann wrote:
>
> I don't think silver engine blocks (with black valve covers) were used
> until very late in the 1957 run. Most 55's I've seen were dark blue
> with gold valve covers. 56's and most 57's, turquoise with black.
> Don't know when they switched from silver with black covers to the
> black with yellow covers, maybe 60 or 61?
>
> Hal Hermann
> 57 Clipper
> Potomac Chapter


>
> John Poulos wrote:
>
> > Do nor pay any attention to the brochure, it's seldom even close. I
> > think the gold and silver scheme is correct, but I'll defer to the
> > 55
> > experts.

> > wilbe...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > > hello; I'm trying to figure out the correct engine colors for my
> > 55
> > > president. I thought the air cleaner should be gold the oil
> > filter
> > > case orange the valve covers gold the the oil filler cap gold, and
> > the
> > > block silver. My engine is currently mostly turquoise. However, a
> > > dealer brochure shows engines with green valve covers red valve
> > > covers,blue valve cover,turquoise fan blades etc. The valve covers
> > seem
> > > to match the color the of the different model cars. All blocksa
> > are
> > > silver and oil filter cases match the color of the valve covers.
> > > Thanks,Sheldon
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> > --

Sam Roberts

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Nov 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/20/00
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> I checked my references, Alberta blue was the engine color until late
> in the year when it was replaced by turquoise late in the year. The air
> cleaner, valve covers, and oil filler cap were Silver on Commander and
> Gold on Presidents.


Valve covers on my '55 Commander were same as the block, and heads, but mine
came off the line June 6th, 1955, and was Turquoise. It is now Alberta Blue,
as per previous post of mine in this thread. Air cleaner, and oil cap were,
and are Silver. I am sure the valve covers were original, as they matched
everything else on the motor.

Sam

CEECAB

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Nov 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/20/00
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>. The air
>cleaner, valve covers, and oil filler cap were Silver on Commander and

not the air cleaner- thats black,John

keit...@my-deja.com

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Nov 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/20/00
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All 1955's with the correct engine had a greenish-blue colored block.
This is a one year only color. At one time I was in printing and did
my own color matching. Here is what I did on my 1955 and it worked
perfectly. Get machinery enamel from Tru-Value Hardware. Mix equal
parts of green and blue. Then take black enamel a little at a time to
darken the shade. Buy one pint each of the three colors. This will be
enough to do the engine, with nearly a full can of black left over.
This works so perfect I should pat myself on the back <g>. Don't go by
the colors in the sales brochure. These are 'circus colors' that
Studebaker almost never adhered to. Always try to find a spot of paint
somewhere and match to it. It may be on an oil pan, transmission case,
pulley or fan etc. Even if you have to sand down through someone elses
slop-job, you should have success. Trust me on this. Best Regards,
keithk55.


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John Poulos

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Nov 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/20/00
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According to the Feb 1994 TW wheels article on the 55 models, SOME early
55's had black air cleaners and oil filler caps left over from the 54
models the other were silver or gold depending on model.

--

John Poulos

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Nov 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/20/00
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Alberta blue is the color (a regular passenger car color) later
production 55's were turquoise. BTW fans were either engine color or
black, oil filter was black for factory installed, orange for dealer
installed.

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Barry

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Nov 20, 2000, 7:37:06 PM11/20/00
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I am sure glad I bought a gallon of Alberta bl. engine enamel a few years
ago from Chuck Schnetlage before I needed it, or I don't know where I would
get it from now. A local member got a qt of it from me last year for his '55
and the rest is on the shelf awaiting my engine.
It pays to buy ahead of time.
We miss ya Chuck!

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George Mills

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Nov 20, 2000, 11:04:02 PM11/20/00
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Oh dear! Looked at the previous post which thought maybe by 60 the Hawks had
black blocks and yellow valve covers, and I thought "Oooohhh! Something I
don't have to change in the 60 black Batmobile because not only do I like
it, it's correct!!" Well, no way am I gonna repaint that black beast silver,
and as for valve covers, the first Stude engine I ever saw in recent years
had yellow valve covers, and to me a Stude now IS yellow valve covers. I can
feel for the buyers in 65 & 66 who glared suspiciously at the dealer when
offered a McKinnon hearted Cruiser with valve covers that looked an awful
lot like a Chebbie...until the paint shop corrected that little "defect"

At least the finish on my generator is "absolutely correct" as stated below
<VBG>

Jim B from PE--still trying to figure out how to post from my own account.

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Hotrodkid

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Nov 24, 2000, 12:02:17 AM11/24/00
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>Studeman wrote

>1956 and 1957(early) had Turquoise blocks, heads, intake manifold, water
>manifold. I "believe" the valve covers and oil pan were black.
>Accessories I cannot be specific.
>Late 1957-1958: I have not researched "original" cars from this period
>
Ray
I have a April 1957 Silverhawk which had the original silver engine with
black valve covers and black oil pan. I date this car as an April production
because of a tag attached under the seat springs. I went ahead and detailed the
engine with new silver paint hoping it is correct.

Randy
57 Silver Hawk
31 Town Sedan
14 Brass T

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