Paint Job costs!
jimandkathiekrise
I had no idea of what a paiht job costs, so I stopped and asked for a
estimate.
I asked the guy if i bring a stripped car ( I described it) what would the
cost be for a paint job??
He quoted $3500.
I think I'll try re-buffing it.)or the roller thing)
Jim
Rick Courtier
the body work. Sure you can get a Maaco for a hell of lot less, but what
are you really getting?
Ask yourself these questions. . .
Are you keeping the car?
Are you keeping the car protect in a garage?
Are you planning not having your car repainted when sign of paint aging
shows up, like fading, spider cracks, dulling of paint etc.?
Do you want your car to a have a show room shine with out much work to get
it to shine?
Do you like Orange peel in the paint?
Have you seen allot of other Maaco cars that have been painted and look at
them a few years later?
Why are their paint jobs cheaper?
Is it the paint cost? And if it is what is the difference between Maaco
paint and the other guys?
What kind of labor are they using. . . day labor?
Do you want people to ask where you got it painted and do you really want to
answer them?
These are just a few question I asked myself before I went a spent my
retirement fund. <G>
Rick (glad I did too) Courtier
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oldcarfart
like schitt BUT if I prep, strip, etc. for $600.00 I have had some
really nice paint jobs. P.S. add $50.00 for tips to sanders and
maskers ($10.00 a pop, usually 3) and the painter ($20.00). up front
before the work! <grin>
On Jan 24, 8:16 am, "Rick Courtier" <r...@graphicworkshop.com> wrote:
> Cost me a hell of lot more then that for my Transtar and I did about 75% of
> the body work. Sure you can get a Maaco for a hell of lot less, but what
> are you really getting?
> Ask yourself these questions. . .
>
> Are you keeping the car?
> Are you keeping the car protect in a garage?
> Are you planning not having your car repainted when sign of paint aging
> shows up, like fading, spider cracks, dulling of paint etc.?
> Do you want your car to a have a show room shine with out much work to get
> it to shine?
> Do you like Orange peel in the paint?
> Have you seen allot of other Maaco cars that have been painted and look at
> them a few years later?
> Why are their paint jobs cheaper?
> Is it the paint cost? And if it is what is the difference between Maaco
> paint and the other guys?
> What kind of labor are they using. . . day labor?
> Do you want people to ask where you got it painted and do you really want to
> answer them?
>
> These are just a few question I asked myself before I went a spent my
> retirement fund. <G>
>
> Rick (glad I did too) Courtier
>
> "jimandkathiekrise" <thekri...@valornet.com> wrote in messagenews:2ab8a$45b7562f$451e9895$24...@ALLTEL.NET...
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>
>
> >I have a really nice 63 Cruiser that is in need of a paint job.
>
> > I had no idea of what a paiht job costs, so I stopped and asked for a
> > estimate.
>
> > I asked the guy if i bring a stripped car ( I described it) what would the
> > cost be for a paint job??
>
> > He quoted $3500.
>
> > I think I'll try re-buffing it.)or the roller thing)
> > Jim- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
Mike Williams
a solid car but the original paint looked ragged. So I removed all the
brightwork did a decent wet sand and took it to our local Maaco. I tipped
the painter, who by the way the day I was there was doing a 40 Olds. It came
out looking much better. I drove it another two years and it sat outside. I
did give it a twice yearly wax job. I then sold it and the buyer could not
believe that was a Maaco job. I found out that Maaco is a franchise so it
all depends on the shop. Some do very well while others do terrible jobs.
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jbwhttail
todays market.The comment was made that the car would be "stripped",
was that of trim or paint? The car has how many prior paint jobs or
just one over 45 years old? Todays body shop rate is $80.00 per hour
average, that equates to 44 hours of labor. I'm sure the body shop
planned some prep, did they need to sand the old paint, primer, fis
small dents, fill paint chips? Then add in the price of paint today,
spray the car, wet sand, buff, spray clearcoat, wet sand, buff, and
then wax.
When all is said and done people look at a paint job and ask
......"who did it". The finish on the car is the signature of the body
shop/painter who did the job. I'm covering my butt in that case if I am
in the business of painting automobiles. My references are my previous
jobs.
My wifes car was in an accident and for insurance reasons we used
Maaco. The car was totaly repainted at the premium cost, we paid for
the toal paint job. at 15 feet it looks great, at three feet, bubba did
it.
Paint jobs are truely one of the things "you get what you pay for".
My Golden Hawk project is nearing completion, I stripped the car of
all trim prior to delivering the body and frame to the body shop. I
have written several $3500.00 checks. Each panel has been painted
inside and out, then assembled. 245 hours of work and counting!
Mike Hunter
purchased TWO and placed one in controlled storage? ;)
mike
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John Poulos
you add, say $1000/year for climate controlled storage, you be in for
another 50K, or $78,000 total.
If you put the 4K in the stock market 50 years ago with the average
return of 12% a year for the 50 years you'd have $1,156,000
I'll take the 4K in 1957 stocks over the extra Hawk .<g>
--
JP/Maryland
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62 Lark 2 door
62 Daytona HT/ 4 speed
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Mike Hunter
$3,000. Remember you are restoring a pre Jimmy Carter car that cost around
$3,000 with 2007 dollars, not 1956 dollars. Today the average car cost
$30,000 not $3,000..
I recently spent $2,500 to do the engine top end on a 1971 car, that only
cost $1,895 new. In 1981, when I decided to add it to my stable, I spent
$2,500 for an Amron paint job.. At the time I purchased all of the chrome,
cooling system and suspension parts, while they were still available and
cheap. I even purchase two cases of Freon cans for less than $3 apiece. So
far I haven't needed to put much it on the car however. ;)
mike
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S2DSteve
convertible myself and most people are pretty impressed with the
result. What always point out though is that I never could manage to
paint very well, but I did get to pretty good at cutting (color
sanding) and buffing. I also spent an enormous amount of time on body
work and prep getting all the panels as straight as possible.
On my latest project, a "driver" '54 Champion, I found a pro who
offered to come out to my shop with his gun and shoot the whole car for
$200. I jumped on that offer of course. I was supposed to have it all
prepped, wiped down and taped. All he was going to do was shoot it and
leave me to clean up. When he arrived he wasn't real happy with what he
saw. He ended up re-taping the whole car, wiping it completely down
twice, then tacking it off before shooting 3 coats of color. I then
spent the next few days color sanding. He returned the next weeked and
shot 2 coats of clear, then returned the next day to color sand and
buff out the whole car. I helped out some with that. In the end he
turned what was going to be a quickie Maaco type job into something
close to show quality.
Needless to say, the $200 quote was out the window. He asked for $500,
and I gave him a check for $600, which was still a bargain I think. I
learned a lot just watching him, and might try to shoot the next one
myself again, at least if I have more time than money at the point.
The bottom line is it's just amazing how much time and skill goes into
a real quality paint job, and I'm not surprized to hear about $10,000
paint job any more. A lot of it is just relatively unskilled gruntwork
though, and the prep work is where the average person could save a
bunch of money.
S2DSteve
On Jan 24, 4:52 am, "jimandkathiekrise" <thekri...@valornet.com>
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Michael - Roseland FL
up in price!!! If you had bought stock in Studebaker in 1963 it would
have been a good buy and you would be a wealthy man to this day from
your purchase.
64daytonaht
It went even higher when Worthington merged with them. Converted to
Worthington stock when they dropped the Studebaker name. Doubled in value
when Eddison-Meguire bought Worthington. Talk about rich! Hmmmmmmmmmm!
Bo
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Jim Turner
side of Indianapolis, we are lucky to get $42 from Insurance Companies! THEY
control our labor rates and our $$ per paint hour on materials!
Then they bitch and moan when we "nickel & dime" them to death!
When I painted my 62 ragtop, I have about $1500-1600 in materials alone, NOT
counting the countless hours in re-doing the previous owners "screwed" up
body work.
You PAY for what you get, and you GET what you pay for!
IF you "know" how to prep a car properly, and THEN take it to Macco AND buy
some decent paint (DuPont, PPG, BASF, Glasurit, etc) THEN tip the painter,
(remember, all he does is SPRAY!) then you will get a decent paint job. The
quality of the paint job depends on 1: the prep work, 2: the painter, 3: the
paint system!
in "my" opinion, $3500 is pretty reasonable for a complete paint job! NO
bodywork.
Jim (off my soapbox) Turner
Jim Turner
A gallon of RED tint is $400, of course, red is used sparingly, in most
colors, we measure by the gram, and we only mix just enough to do the job. a
whole side will take no more the 1.5 pints of color, then add the reducer,
hardener, clear, reducer harder and it goes on and on. Clear runs us about
$175 a gallon. My paint order yesterday was $5400! we order 2 times a week.
Just signed a new "contract" with Finishmaster Automotive and it set up a
pretty good "discount" structure.
Paint supplies are NOT cheap!
Jim
Jeffrey DeWitt
Jeff deWitt
Dan Kay
of a job. I just removed the interior and glass and delivered the car. They
took their time, removed the chrome, bumpers, headlights etc.., took her
down to bare metal, filled and sanded all the ripples and dimples, even
pulled the rain gutter chrome, polished it and put it back on. And although
the owner says it's "only" a $5000.00 job, I have to say she looks
fantastic. I have asked around, and 5000.00 is about the base price
locally. I was told by one used car lot owner that he knew of a guy who
would do it for 2500.00, but I saw the finished product and decided I would
have it done right. Of course, ran out of any funds for the 62.....
Dan Kay
61 Lark VIII Regal
62 Lark Daytona Convertible
jimandkathiekrise
I am trying to visualize the 63 Cruiser in Allis Chalmer orange at this
moment.
Jim
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Mike Hunter
etal, back in the day and lost money. LOL
mike
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Mike Hunter
regulations for the increase LOL
mike
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L.D.
You are 100% maybe even 200% correct on the EPA and OSHA. Not just on
the paint but actually nearly everything we buy.
Mike Hunter
else we buy today includes the cost of their
attorney(s,) as well Between all the governments regulations, and the trial
lawyers, no wonder we have trouble competing in the word market ;)
mike
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Bill Glass
the trim etc. They took the car down to bare metal. That was a bunch of
years ago. $3500 is a fair price. Do not know where you live but in NY there
is a $135.00 charge to dispose of left over paint, the residue of the
sanding and alll the paper filters and resperator filters.
The Ceramic Green on the 56J is Identical to a 1989 Aston Martin DB, it is
called Burnham Green Metallic. It is one of the most expensive colors to
mix.
BG
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63t-cab
from the east coast.most have no idea what is involved in top work and
the costs involved with top work,which only comes with top techs,that
is to say top can vary a bit but top is top.you do get what you pay
for,costs ? about 4 or 5 years ago my Father bought a gallon of Avanti
Gold PPG = $400 and change,and that is just the base coat nothing
else !
jbwhttail
My comments on labor price @$80.00 per hour is based on what the
"book" rate versus actual time. A good body man can cut book time in
half and make 100% profit on most scratch and dent jobs.
The shop I use is very honest on what they charge and when they work
on restorations.......... "40.00 per hour plus supplies.... when we
are waiting on parts or we are slow".
3500.00 paint job is not unreasonable.........
oldcarfart
On Jan 25, 8:18 am, "jimandkathiekrise" <thekri...@valornet.com>
wrote:
> thanks for all the enlightenment.
> I am trying to visualize the 63 Cruiser in Allis Chalmer orange at this
> moment.
> Jim
>
> "jimandkathiekrise" <thekri...@valornet.com> wrote in messagenews:2ab8a$45b7562f$451e9895$24...@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>
>
> >I have a really nice 63 Cruiser that is in need of a paint job.
>
> > I had no idea of what a paiht job costs, so I stopped and asked for a
> > estimate.
>
> > I asked the guy if i bring a stripped car ( I described it) what would the
> > cost be for a paint job??
>
> > He quoted $3500.
>
> > I think I'll try re-buffing it.)or the roller thing)