Cool and wellmade Saab-page..
Henrik B.
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> http://changeperspective.saab.com/
>
A new aircraft???? Saab Automobile has basically had no relation with
Saab Aircraft since the 90'ies. They have declined to participate in
most common Swedish research programmes since GM has cut down their
research budget. How many Saab Automobile engineers are left that has
any relation with the aircraft people? Probably none.
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Henrik B.
news:k2Clm.11079$U5.1...@newsb.telia.net...
> A new aircraft???? Saab Automobile has basically had no relation with Saab
> Aircraft since the 90'ies. They have declined to participate in most
> common Swedish research programmes since GM has cut down their research
> budget.
Where's the strange in that?
> How many Saab Automobile engineers are left that has any relation with the
> aircraft people? Probably none.
It's about heritage or moreover - feelings/passion.
What I'm wondering, since you're so critical towards Saab (Automobile), why
you even bother commenting or even read "in here"?
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that you want to get from point A to point B and not get stuck in point
A or point C. I have been owning Saab cars for 25 years without problems
but with the 9^5 the quality is really bad and you cannot rely that the
car is taking you where you want to go. How can we be sure that the new
9^5 has a better quality than the old model?
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Henrik B.
> car is taking you where you want to go. How can we be sure that the new
> 9^5 has a better quality than the old model?
Well, since the Saab 9-3 SS is the best Saab ever build, I'm confident, that
the new Saab is pretty good (quality).
th
get a different picture (also for the later models). It doesn't seem to
be better than the 9^5 concerning build quality. If you compare with the
later 9000 models the difference seems obvious.
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Henrik B.
> Well, if you try to google on saab 9^3 and problems or reliability you get
> a different picture (also for the later models).
I don't give at rats ar** about what goggle can tell me. I know from owners,
journalists and long time Saabmechanics, that they've never owned/worked
with a Saab that is that stable, and has had that few errors.
All cars has flaws and errors - some more, some less (eg. Toyota). But in
general, the 9-3 SS has a quality way higher than older Saab's.
> If you compare with the later 9000 models the difference seems obvious.
Yes, in Saab 9-3 SS's favour....
If you expect a 100% troublefree car - buy a Toyota (or a Skoda).
Aaron W. Hsu
wrote:
> If you expect a 100% troublefree car - buy a Toyota (or a Skoda).
Haha! They may have a reputation for reliability, but I wouldn't go so far
as to say 100%. I agree though, in that my Saab 9-3 has been the most
reliable car that I have owned.
Aaron W. Hsu
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Elder
saab@_nospam_tdcadsl.dk says...
> Yes, in Saab 9-3 SS's favour....
>
> If you expect a 100% troublefree car - buy a Toyota (or a Skoda).
>
faith, every car I have owned has been a Saab,Skoda or Toyota/Lexus.
Currently on the latest Lexus phase because when I was replacing the
9000 I didn't fancy the 9-3 hatch, the 9-3SS was too pricey still, and
The missus moaned that the 9-5 was too big.
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> http://changeperspective.saab.com/
>
> --http://www.saabklub.dk/
I'm all for a change in perspective. The biggest problem with Saab as
it stands now is that GM (that's General Motors the USA auto giant)
has raped Saab since acquiring a controlling stake in the company
during the 1990's and destroyed what was left of the brand heritage
and turned Saab basically into another US-specific car brand building
vehicles to satisfy North American tastes and eliminating Saab's
traditional safety and build-quality base on which the brand
reputation was built right up to the first series 9000's.
If Saab had not interfered with the 9000 production and left it alone,
there would be a nice clean and clear distinction between good and bad
but there isn't. The other serious mistake GM made was steal
technology from Fujitsu (owner of Subaru) to create the 9-2X and try
to turn a generic US SUV into a crossover 4wd aka the 9-7X, both of
which are seriously flawed vehicles in terms of what the Saab brand,
heritage, and reputation for safety and quality were built on.
I hope that Konnigsegg will immediate take steps to eliminate all GM
hangovers from the company and look at what GM did to learn from those
mistakes. They are classic mistakes a lot of big car makers fall into.
Even Ford has done them with Volvo (who are Saab's main 'competition'
when it comes to 'Swedish' cars).
The number 1 thing that needs to happen is Saab needs to work to
retain (and attract) talented people who will re-ignite the innovation
which gave Saab the edge as the company has missed out on about 15
years of free-flowing technoligical development and now is the right
time to fix that and start creating vehicles that key right into the
current market trends and energy usage issues. BMW has massively
benefited from GM's 'brand mismanagement' downfall in this regard.
Craig.
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