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BBC Watchdog - 206 reliability

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Mike

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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I am collecting information about the unreliability of 206s for a feature on
the BBC Watchdog programme. Particularly the intermittent stalling of 1.4s
and automatics. If you have had problems with this fault, please let me know
basic details.

Thanks

Mike

jeff

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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Stalling hardly makes the car unreliable
Jeff

Bungle

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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Watchdog will no doubt completley ignore it...
As they do with 99% of mail sent to them...........

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Graham Cox

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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I disagree - stalling is potentially very dangerous - if the car lurches
half way across a busy junction before cutting out it leaves you in a very
vulnerable position, and something that any oncoming traffic probably didn't
anticipate. I would be very unhappy with a car that stalled all the time, or
even occasionally.

I don't have a 206 but both my 106 XSi and my current 406 coupe stall very
easily for some reason. It's not bad enough to be a problem for me, but may
be there is a marginal design fault here?

cheers, Graham

Mick james

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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I don't have a problem with intermittent stalling but I could give you a
list of other problems I have which appear to be common faults on this site.
i.e
radio switches off on its own
radio poor reception
condensation build up on windows
rattle to front engine bay

you may also try visiting www.peugeot.206.btinternet.co.uk

this site carries a list of recalls ,problems & possible fixes

Nom

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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???

A can't can't "stall very easily" - if you find it easy to stall, then
you're not giving enough revs to pull away cleanly.

If you stall half way across a busy junction, then you didn't have enough
revs.

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Mike

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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I'm sorry I was not clear in my original posting. I am referring to this
car's apparent tendency to just cut out while driving along, usually with
the engine management fault light on, but usually restarting quickly.
Happens on autos, nothing to do with the driver's fault.


Mike

Graham Cox

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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Puh-lease!!!!

I do know how to drive thankyou.

I'm talking about the occasional case when trying to make a quick clean
getaway - the car will accellerate properly for half a second, then die
away. Unless you are very quick getting the clutch down and the revs back
up, it will stall. It only happens once in a very long while - not enough to
bother taking the car back to the dealers, but enough to give me high blood
pressure in some situations. Normal pullaways are never a problem - just
quick ones.

And by the way, revs are not the answer - any more and it wheelspins,
equally undesirable for making a quick dash through a short gap.

cheers, Graham

Andy Livesey

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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Don't worry this gives us an excuse to moan about our Peugeot that we "Love"
My original 306 DTurbo gave me some problems stalling, and my 406HDI 110bhp
now gives me problems as well, each time I set off the pressure needed on
the clutch is different each time

regards
andy livesey

Nigel

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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Hi Mike,
I have had 5 people contact my website with engine stalling problems of the
following nature: whilst driving the engine management lights illuminate and
the engine stalls, this has been at various speeds and in 1.6 and 2.0 litre
engined cars. All respondents said the car would restart immediately with no
problems and no further illumination of the engine diagnostics lights until
the next occasion of a stall. Every one had dealers check EMU with no
apparent problems. Faults still remain intermittently. Also had a 106 owner
with the same problem contact me.
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jeff

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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Tahts not stalling,thats a flat spot.

DervMan

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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> ???
>
> A can't can't "stall very easily" - if you find it easy to stall, then
> you're not giving enough revs to pull away cleanly.
>
> If you stall half way across a busy junction, then you didn't have enough
> revs.

I think by "stalling" the original individual meant "cutting out." I had an
old Mk. 2 Fiesta 1100 that used to suffer a bit from carb icing. Now that
was "exciting" when the engine stalled on a cool motorway drive. An hour at
70 mph, then, bingo, no power.

You know, at first I agreed, but now I don't - entirely. Some cars are more
resistant to insufficient revs than others. I've driven lots of different
cars and there are some that stall easily, and some that stall with lots of
difficulty. For one, diesels *tend* to be more stall-resistant than petrols
. . . certainly, the Mondeo TD is very difficult to stall. It's possible,
if you're brutal with the clutch, but difficult.

However, you might expect that the larger the engine, the harder it is to
get it to stall? Not always so. The Mercedes-Benz A170 CDI I tried was
easy to stall (perhaps because the electronic gizmos controlling the engine
decided it would be better for the trees to cut the engine?). My last Fiat
Cinquecento SX, a tiny little 900cc engine, was difficult to stall. I had a
Mondeo 1.6 petrol for a week, and that was reasonably easy to stall - but a
loan Fiat Punto was as resistant as the Cinquecento.

However, since this isn't what the guy was asking for . . . lets leave it at
that, shall we?

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DervMan
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mark and kay

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Nov 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/22/00
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He He, it was even more fun on my old Honda 400 - when that died you fell
down in a heap.....
Mark

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Puh-lease!!!!

I do know how to drive thankyou.

I'm talking about the occasional case when trying to make a quick clean
getaway - the car will accellerate properly for half a second, then die
away. Unless you are very quick getting the clutch down and the revs back
up, it will stall. It only happens once in a very long while - not enough to
bother taking the car back to the dealers, but enough to give me high blood
pressure in some situations. Normal pullaways are never a problem - just
quick ones.

And by the way, revs are not the answer - any more and it wheelspins,
equally undesirable for making a quick dash through a short gap.

cheers, Graham

> From: "Nom" <N...@Somewhere.com>
> Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com

> Newsgroups: alt.autos.peugeot
> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:36:56 -0000
> Subject: Re: BBC Watchdog - 206 reliability
>

> ???
>
> A can't can't "stall very easily" - if you find it easy to stall, then
> you're not giving enough revs to pull away cleanly.
>
> If you stall half way across a busy junction, then you didn't have enough
> revs.
>

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