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Andy

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Apr 5, 2003, 6:21:42 AM4/5/03
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Can I use windolene in my washbottle. Will it affect the paint? If anyone
has tried this, what concentration did you use?

thanks

Andy.

ps. this is the clear original windolene (not the pink thick cream)

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r

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Apr 5, 2003, 6:31:11 AM4/5/03
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"Andy" wrote in message

> Can I use windolene in my washbottle. Will it affect the paint? If anyone
> has tried this, what concentration did you use?

Well I wouldn't.
Why would you want to?

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JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 5, 2003, 8:14:30 AM4/5/03
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>Can I use windolene in my washbottle. Will it affect the paint? If anyone
>has tried this, what concentration did you use?
>
>thanks

Go on...take a chance......

"you are a worthless dickhead" Quote Jim Watt ZB2JW Gibraltar

Keep banging the rocks together guys.........

Julian Stafford

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Apr 5, 2003, 1:51:35 PM4/5/03
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"Andy" <anonREMOV...@blackhole.nyx.net> wrote in message
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> Can I use windolene in my washbottle. Will it affect the paint? If anyone
> has tried this, what concentration did you use?

A little squirt of fairy liquid is tops in the summer months IMHO, much
cheaper than screen wash and cleans 'traffic film' a treat.

Julian.


JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 5, 2003, 2:06:35 PM4/5/03
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> little squirt of fairy liquid is tops in the summer months IMHO, much
>cheaper than screen wash and cleans 'traffic film' a treat.
>
>Julian.
>

Fairy liquid is salt and pigs urine...lovely on bodywork...but then again it's
all a pugot deserves......

"I trust everything will turn out all right."
Jim McGuinn

Julian Stafford

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Apr 5, 2003, 2:34:59 PM4/5/03
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"JIM GM4DHJ" <jimg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > little squirt of fairy liquid is tops in the summer months IMHO, much
> >cheaper than screen wash and cleans 'traffic film' a treat.
> >
> >Julian.
> >
>
> Fairy liquid is salt

So what do they use on the british roads in winter?


>and pigs urine...

Bollocks

lovely on bodywork...but then again it's
> all a pugot deserves......

Go to bed you little twerp.

Julian

Les Ashton

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Apr 5, 2003, 2:46:51 PM4/5/03
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In message <WAFja.3521$0i4....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>, Julian
Stafford <julian....@bransonairline.net> penned

>
>
>A little squirt of fairy liquid is tops in the summer months IMHO, much
>cheaper than screen wash and cleans 'traffic film' a treat.
>
>Julian.
>
>
Fairy liquid ............ good for getting rid of grease, also contains
salt ............. wont do the bodywork much good.
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JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 5, 2003, 2:51:10 PM4/5/03
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>Go to bed you little twerp.
>
>Julian
>
>
>

i am a big twerp....Julian?..what sort of nane is that?.....Somebody who likes
girly cars like pugots.......no doubt.

JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 5, 2003, 2:55:32 PM4/5/03
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>Fairy liquid ............ good for getting rid of grease, also contains
>salt ............. wont do the bodywork much good.
>--
>Les Ashton
>

And pigs urine.......

sPoNiX

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Apr 5, 2003, 3:49:56 PM4/5/03
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On 5 Apr 2003 04:21:42 -0700, Andy
<anonREMOV...@blackhole.nyx.net> wrote:

>Can I use windolene in my washbottle. Will it affect the paint? If anyone
>has tried this, what concentration did you use?

I have used an "Own brand" Windolene in about 50% concentration for
many years...

...works as well as screen wash and is much cheaper but doesn't have
the anti-freeze properties for the winter.

sPoNiX

sPoNiX

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Apr 5, 2003, 3:49:57 PM4/5/03
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 20:46:51 +0100, Les Ashton <Re...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>also contains salt .............

errr...who told you that? I bet it was a rumour started by a
screenwash manufacturer..?

Washing up liquid (Fairy type) contains no salt as it would stop the
production of bubbles!! Maybe you have confused it with Dishwasher
liquid for Dishwashers?

There is a downside to using washing up liquid though, it tends to
clag the washer jets if used in high concentrations.

sPoNiX

Big Mc

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Apr 5, 2003, 4:20:04 PM4/5/03
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"sPoNiX" <st...@email.com> wrote in message
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washing up liquid "Fairy" uses salt in the concentration as an abrasive
element to enhance it's cleansing properties, so it is not recommended to be
used in the screen wash bottle of your car as the water residue will
infiltrate the windscreen surround and other such areas and will promote
corrosion.

JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 6, 2003, 3:35:59 AM4/6/03
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>washing up liquid "Fairy" uses salt in the concentration as an abrasive
>element to enhance it's cleansing properties, so it is not recommended to be
>used in the screen wash bottle of your car as the water residue will
>infiltrate the windscreen surround and other such areas and will promote

Well said that man!........I had a friend who used it to assist fitting an old
style windscreen....what a mess after a few months......

Julian Stafford

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Apr 6, 2003, 3:39:15 AM4/6/03
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"Big Mc" <Ian@"Rubbish"McMullon.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> washing up liquid "Fairy" uses salt in the concentration as an abrasive
> element to enhance it's cleansing properties,

Well that's nonsence, all the salt is disolved, so has no abrasive
properties. It's use is for water sofetening to prevent a scum forming.


so it is not recommended to be
> used in the screen wash bottle of your car as the water residue will
> infiltrate the windscreen surround and other such areas and will promote
> corrosion.

Come off it, it is diluted so much by the water that its salinity is slight
to say the least. I am now 41 and have used it since I was 17, I have had
cars in my possession for over 7 years and never experienced the slightest
problem. In Winter the sides of my car sometimes go white with salt crystals
caused by the council salting roads, yet they don't corrode. Salt will
attack steel, not paint, if the paint layer is intact you need not worry.
All modern cars have base coat and lacquer which is now so tough (melamine
based IIRC) it has removed the need for polish even.

Julian.


Julian Stafford

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Apr 6, 2003, 3:40:43 AM4/6/03
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"miknik" <nos...@mitsi.co.uk> wrote in message
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> For the sake of saving 50p, just buy some decent screenwash fairy
> liquid will only cause you grief in the long run

see my reply to Big Mc WRT the above.

Julian.


Julian Stafford

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Apr 6, 2003, 3:44:06 AM4/6/03
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"JIM GM4DHJ" <jimg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >washing up liquid "Fairy" uses salt in the concentration as an abrasive
> >element to enhance it's cleansing properties, so it is not recommended to
be
> >used in the screen wash bottle of your car as the water residue will
> >infiltrate the windscreen surround and other such areas and will promote

Almost certainly damaged the surrounding paint during installation, letting
rust start. Nothing to do with fairy liquid IMHO.

Julian.


r

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Apr 6, 2003, 5:26:57 AM4/6/03
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"Julian Stafford" wrote in message

Fairy liquid is NOT good for paint or wiper blades, it's OK for washing
glass, as long as you rinse it off.

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Julian Stafford

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Apr 6, 2003, 7:04:15 AM4/6/03
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"r" <mail(NoSpam)@(Nospam)rugids.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Fairy liquid is NOT good for paint or wiper blades,

IYO, I've used it for about 24 years on cars with all paint types, never
known it do any harm whatsoever, I suggest your opinion is anecdotal,
perhaps swayed by manufacturers of screen wash product. OTOH my experience
is real, I own 4 cars and a lorry, one has been owned by me for 7 years all
have excellent paintwork, my Audi quattro built in 89 is pristine.

Julian.


r

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Apr 6, 2003, 7:20:18 AM4/6/03
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"Julian Stafford" wrote in message

> "r" <mail(NoSpam)@(Nospam)rugids.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message

Yes, it is only my opinion, and gained by working in the car refinishing
trade in the '70s and early '80s.
Paint has probably changed a lot since then, with modern synthetics, but I
still prefer to avoid the risk.
I own 4 cars too, the earliest and most pristine of which is a 1990 BX16v,
and my company has lots of lorries, and my Dad's bigger than your
Dad......... :oP

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Andy

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Apr 6, 2003, 8:37:11 AM4/6/03
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> sPoNiX


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I have got the original Windolene (REckitt). Is this what you mean by Own
Brand. I presume that you have not noticed any problems with the paintwork
or the wipers (rubber).

Thanks for comming back to my original question

All the best

A

JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 6, 2003, 9:46:08 AM4/6/03
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>
>IYO, I've used it for about 24 years on cars with all paint types, never
>known it do any harm whatsoever, I suggest your opinion is anecdotal,
>perhaps swayed by manufacturers of screen wash product. OTOH my experience
>is real, I own 4 cars and a lorry, one has been owned by me for 7 years all
>have excellent paintwork, my Audi quattro built in 89 is pristine.
>
>Julian.

Are you sure they are not Dinky Toy Cars?......

37 Year old '66 Mustang
12Year old Merc

No Fairies for me Julian.......

JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 6, 2003, 9:47:50 AM4/6/03
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>Thanks for comming back to my original question
>
>All the best
>
>A

Just look at the bounce up you have caused!......

Julian Stafford

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Apr 6, 2003, 12:11:27 PM4/6/03
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"JIM GM4DHJ" <jimg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 37 Year old '66 Mustang

Pah, just a modern piece of junk.

Julian

1919 Aveling and Porter 10 ton steam roller, do a google for aveling and
rosetta, that's my roller.

(I am quite jelous about the Mustang really, American muscle is about the
only thing I've never owned yet, I really would like a Charger but it will
have to wait a year or so I think)


Julian Stafford

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Apr 6, 2003, 12:16:43 PM4/6/03
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"miknik" <nos...@mitsi.co.uk> wrote in message
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> You have been using fairy for years, I'm obviously not going to change
> your mind, but you wouldn't catch me doing it...

Oh you could change my mind, paintwork is about the only item of car
maintenance that I don't have the skill to repair, I just go by my
experience on the matter. Look at it with an open mind, what salinity level
would a _little_ splash of fairy in 1/2 gallon of water induce? Not much
would be my guess, certainly less than the shit and salt that the council
spread on our roads for 6 months of the year.

Julian.


Julian Stafford

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Apr 6, 2003, 12:18:02 PM4/6/03
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"JIM GM4DHJ" <jimg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Just look at the bounce up you have caused!......

No not at all, it's good fun, and made better than the c==p on the telly.

Julian.


Sparky

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Apr 6, 2003, 2:27:35 PM4/6/03
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Bloody hell mate,I bought a giant 5 litre bottle of screenwash from
KwikSave for a quid!Time to dig in the pocket, it will cause less
problems,and less flak in replies.Cheers

On 5 Apr 2003 04:21:42 -0700, Andy
<anonREMOV...@blackhole.nyx.net> wrote:

Chris Hodges

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Apr 6, 2003, 4:27:16 PM4/6/03
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Sparky wrote:
> Bloody hell mate,I bought a giant 5 litre bottle of screenwash from
> KwikSave for a quid!Time to dig in the pocket, it will cause less
> problems,and less flak in replies.Cheers

Personally I get 5 litre bottles of screenwash when I can (I do
200miles/week on A roads and country lanes - salt, mud, spray etc.

Believe it or not the halfords one seems quite good! (Knew they were
useful for something apart from bulbs on a sunday).

Having said that the xantia at work came up nice when someone else
filled the washer bottle with water+liquid hand soap+isopropanol

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JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 6, 2003, 4:36:50 PM4/6/03
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>(I am quite jelous about the Mustang really, American muscle is about the
>only thing I've never owned yet, I really would like a Charger but it will
>have to wait a year or so I think)

Well I would like a Challenger R/T
Sorry for the insults...anybody who likes American cars can't be all bad!
Jim


Julian Stafford

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Apr 6, 2003, 4:48:44 PM4/6/03
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"JIM GM4DHJ" <jimg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Well I would like a Challenger R/T

I've dreamt about Chargers since watching the Dukes of Hazard as a kid, I
was too young to appreciate Daisey Dukes legs, just the Charger. I love that
evil mean look they have. Mopar muscle, to hell with brakes and handling!

> Sorry for the insults...anybody who likes American cars can't be all bad!

I hadn't noticed any, I'll go back and re-read your post :-)

Julian.

P.S what engine is in your Mustang.


sPoNiX

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Apr 6, 2003, 5:01:26 PM4/6/03
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 22:20:04 +0100, "Big Mc"
<Ian@"Rubbish"McMullon.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>washing up liquid "Fairy" uses salt in the concentration

It cetrainly doesn't use salt....read the chemical breakdown on the
back of the bottle..can you see salt anywhere in the ingredients? no!

in low concentrations it will not affect the bodywork.

sPoNiX

sPoNiX

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Apr 6, 2003, 5:08:12 PM4/6/03
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On 6 Apr 2003 05:37:11 -0700, Andy
<anonREMOV...@blackhole.nyx.net> wrote:

>I have got the original Windolene (REckitt). Is this what you mean by Own
>Brand.

Supermarket own brand. Such as Tesco's window cleaner etc..basically
any cheapy cleaner in a windowlene style spray bottle.

> I presume that you have not noticed any problems with the paintwork
>or the wipers (rubber).

Haven't noticed any adverse effects on cars myself whatsoever.

*If* windolene caused problems with rubber then you wouldn't be able
to use it on double glazed house windows as they have a rubber
seal...likewise you wouldn't be able to use it on painted window
frames..

It *is* safe to use on glass and paint!

sPoNiX

JIM GM4DHJ

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Apr 7, 2003, 2:32:56 AM4/7/03
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Anybody fancy a pint?.....


Simon Pickstock

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Apr 7, 2003, 6:12:05 AM4/7/03
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> Can I use windolene in my washbottle. Will it affect the paint? If anyone
> has tried this, what concentration did you use?

With all the debate on using Fairy Liquid, I'm surprised that no one has
mentioned that it is an alkaline detergent and shouldn't be used anywhere
need the vinyl roofs on convertibles.

As for windolene, how about using glass cleaner, which is based on acetic
acid (vinegar). I've never put it in my washer bottle, but I use it
regularily to clean my headlamps and windscreen.

Simon


SimonDS

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Apr 7, 2003, 4:21:50 PM4/7/03
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Fairy liquid contains 'salts' which is why it can put micro scratches in
your paintwork if you wash the car with it, especially the new softer paints
used today.
HOWEVER.....
a very small amount probably wouldn't damaged the paintwork if used in the
wiper bottle afterall the water from the tap contains chlorine, floride and
loads of other impuritites. Look at the limescale inside of your kettle!!
HOWEVER....
Screenwash is really cheap and not worth the risk to use anything else
AND.....
Fairy leaves a residue if not wiped away with clean water which attracts
more dirt!

Simon


scott

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Apr 10, 2003, 6:45:21 PM4/10/03
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and that screenwash, if anyone can read, says dont get on paintwork!
If its that strong that you cant get it on paintwork then where the
hell is it going to go if you wash your windows doing 70mph? I use
washing liquid despite what people say. Screenwash smells flamable
from 20 paces and I dont wanna think that on a hot day that if i wash
my windows Im gonna pass out or trip out. That anti smear stuff is
chuff, any smear by donkeys butt!

scott

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