T-Cut after spray job??
FuzzyOrange
The front of the car where its been sprayed is very very marginally darker
than the rest of the car
Someone told me to T-Cut colour restore and wax the car to get the smooth
texture and colours to match
But another friend said to leave it to weather for a month as the T-Cut is
too harsh for the new paint
Who is right?
The car was sprayed and left over night to bake on - no oven was used if
that makes a difference
- Phil
Murphwiz (aka Bungle)
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Wait for it to weather/harden......
stephe...@tenretnitb.moc
"FuzzyOrange" <ma...@fuzzy-orange.com> wrote:
> Goodwood is back from repairs fully sprayed and ready for MOT
>
> The front of the car where its been sprayed is very very marginally darker
> than the rest of the car
>
What colour is the car?.
Steve.
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FuzzyOrange
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> "FuzzyOrange" <ma...@fuzzy-orange.com> wrote:
>
> > Goodwood is back from repairs fully sprayed and ready for MOT
> >
> > The front of the car where its been sprayed is very very marginally
darker
> > than the rest of the car
> >
> What colour is the car?.
>
> Steve.
Original Goodwood Green of course ;o)
- Phil
Aurélien
What you should have done is to make an "old" colour.
I remember my first "crash", Peugeot had a device that takes sample of my
car colour and they made a special paint.
When my car came back from painting, I can't notice any difference.
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Aurélien
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fiji bob
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>Original Goodwood Green of course ;o)
> - Phil
>
>
The paintwork should already be polished by the paint shop and is
unlikely to improve with further polishing, the bodyshop should always
polish the surrounding panels to help with colour blending anyway.
Some colours have a term called "drop off" usually reds, the black
used in a red colour will after a couple of days turn the colour much
darker than normal.
I'm not familiar with the Goodwood green shade but if it contains a high
percentage of black it will dry much darker as is cures assuming it's
2pack.
Certain greens however have whats called "floating pigment" whereas the
pigment raises to the surface as it dries altering the colour shade.
Reputable body shops will or should be aware of this and generally allow
wider margins when mixing and applying paint.
With certain reds the sprayer would sometimes lighten the colour to
allow for drop off.
If your goodwood green is a light shade and with colours generally
darkening anyway when drying/curing it is possible for the shade to be
out and if so it's down to the bodyshop to rectify.
You shouldn't see any colour difference whatsoever when the vehicle leaves
the paintshop irrespective of "drop off" or "pigment floatation".
stephe...@tenretnitb.moc
"fiji bob" <n.i.ch...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> i think goodwoods are sorrento green
Now then, if it is Sorrento we have a completely different ball game.
Sorrento is a MICA colour with a different method of application.
Nom
otherwise you may damage it.
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FuzzyOrange
The "spray job" cost £50 including paint and was done by a mate as a
favour - he works in a paint shop and used their facilities so it is very
professional but I dont think he had time to polish it
- Philk
FuzzyOrange
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> "fiji bob" <n.i.ch...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > i think goodwoods are sorrento green
>
> Now then, if it is Sorrento we have a completely different ball game.
> Sorrento is a MICA colour with a different method of application.
Its metallic Goodwood Green which is also called Roland Garros green
I think the tin said a cellulose base
or something
- Phil
stephe...@tenretnitb.moc
"FuzzyOrange" <ma...@fuzzy-orange.com> wrote:
> Its metallic Goodwood Green which is also called Roland Garros green
That explains why i couldn't find any reference to it, i can find
Garros green but not Goodwood.
Garros Green Met 2ct PEU.ERP 1990-2001
If the paint is "Cellulose" then i presume it's not a lacquered finish
just a straight metallic colour? and if the area has been painted panel
to panel without overlapping would also make a difference when colour
blending.
You will need to use a polishing or rubbing compound with a coarse grit
to bring the finish up to scratch, T-cut is too fine.
FuzzyOrange
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> "FuzzyOrange" <ma...@fuzzy-orange.com> wrote:
>
> > Its metallic Goodwood Green which is also called Roland Garros green
>
> That explains why i couldn't find any reference to it, i can find
> Garros green but not Goodwood.
>
> Garros Green Met 2ct PEU.ERP 1990-2001
>
> If the paint is "Cellulose" then i presume it's not a lacquered finish
> just a straight metallic colour? and if the area has been painted panel
> to panel without overlapping would also make a difference when colour
> blending.
>
> You will need to use a polishing or rubbing compound with a coarse grit
> to bring the finish up to scratch, T-cut is too fine.
>
The paint was sprayed on followed by a lacquer mixed with some kind of
hardening compount to give it a shiny metallic finish
Thanks for all your help by the way buddy
- Phil
stephe...@tenretnitb.moc
"FuzzyOrange" <ma...@fuzzy-orange.com> wrote:
> > In message <9f14b...@enews3.newsguy.com>
> > "FuzzyOrange" <ma...@fuzzy-orange.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
> The paint was sprayed on followed by a lacquer mixed with some kind of
> hardening compount to give it a shiny metallic finish
>
That will be a 2pack lacquer.
Some metallic colours mixed in cellulose are single pack usually used on
much older vehicles than your Peugeot which will be 2pack in accordance
to the year of manufacture. Nearly all vehicle manufactures since 1980
use 2pack paint finishes so when you mentioned cellulose based i assumed
your car was painted in single pack with no additional lacquer coat.
If now you say your car has been lacquered then it is a 2pack finish.
The more information you can supply will generate a more detailed answer,
at the moment i am confused as to what paint actually has been used in
the repair of your Peugeot?.
There are so many different ways of spraying paint finishes and it often
depends on the type of paint used as to how the area or areas are
painted particularly when attempting to blend in a colour.
In your case it may be the sprayer who is at fault regards to the wrong
colour shade and not the paint.
If a straight colour (none metallic) was used he would paint panel to
panel and if it was 2pack he could achieve this without worrying about
colour fade due to none fading modern 2pack paints.
Cellulose does fade and will eventually cause colour loss and fading
problems at a later date especially if it's painted on a car that hosts
original 2pack paint.
If a cellulose metallic has been used, although unlikely because you
wouldn't paint a modern car in cellulose especially if it was originally
painted in 2pack even if it's cellulose based and lacquered with 2pack
lacquer.
If a 2pack metallic base coat has been used then this is the correct
material for painting your vehicle and it's highly unlikely but not
impossible for the colour mix to be wrong, if the colour was marginally
out the sprayer would lose the colour across the next panel and
then lacquer the whole panel resulting in a perfect colour match.
Has the vehicle been painted in 2pack or cellulose?.
Was the colour shade out to begin with and if so did the sprayer lose
the colour across an adjacent panel?.
Was the vehicle painted in a cellulose base and lacquered in 2pack?.
Was the vehicle painted in 2pack basecoat and lacquered with 2pack
lacquer?.
Also different grades of polishing compounds are used on different paint
substrates, you have to match the correct polishing grade to the type of
paint or lacquer.
Have a look at http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk/polish.html